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TM30 Online Reporting
« on: July 28, 2019, 08:25:22 PM »
There has been loads on Social Media about TM30 reporting,  so as I have never done it in 18 years , apart from when I was on a Extension based on Marriage ( I guess it's part of the Immigration Office's paper work along with the 90 day reporting ) I have decided to have a go at Online Reporting for the sheer hell of it. :biggrin:
I does seem odd that after living in the same house for 15 years and having a Yellow House book,a Pink Thai ID Card,  2 Bank Accounts at the same Address, a Driving Licence with my Name and Address on it , visits from the local Police once or twice a year , the Village Head-Man asking for copies of Passport and Visa once a year ( not sure who he sends that too ) and filling in a TM 6 with my Address, Telephone Number and email Address ......you would think that would be enough !!! :blink:  ...But oh NO , now we have to report using the TM30 ( or the wife does ) every time we leave our house for a short holiday ( ie a trip to the bright lights of Pattaya )  or a 90 day border hop ( as I'm on a Multi 'O' Visa )

For those that are on a Retirement or Marriage extension that never leave home and only do 90 day reports then this wont effect you .That is unless you leave the Country or go away on Holiday inside Thailand ( book into a Hotel ) as by law you must report within 24 hours of your return to your home .But if you are staying with friends the chances of getting court without reporting are pretty slim !!...... I do remember reading on BE that Buriram Immigration are not all that interested in you reporting after a trip within Thailand, but we know when there's a possibility of them fining you the local rules can change at the drop of a hat  biggrin1



So here it the site  ...   https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

First thing you need to do is Register ( I have made an account for my wife and one for me as I have a yellow house book )

It's quite easy to fill in as its in Thai and English . If you do something wrong when you click 'SUBMIT' it will tell you what you have done wrong. You need to add some Documents at the bottom of the form.I just took photo's of my Passport and Yellow House Book and the same for the wife with her House Book and ID card and uploaded them off my Phone to my PC ( Google photo's ) and then uploaded them onto the form.

Once your submission has been accepted you then need to wait for them to send you your Username and Password.
You should receive an email with 24 hours and you will be asked to confirm your email address.
I have been told you then have to wait another week for your Username and Password to arrive.
As both my Wife and I have Registered then hopefully one of us should be successful. ;)
Then the fun of working out how to submit a TM30 online will begin !!



If anyone else has done this and has any tips then I'm all ears .  :happy:

BTW...My Theory is ,if i can do it online before I come in contact with any local Immigration Officials it should stop them getting their hands on any of my Wife's money ( mine ) in fines...a few minutes filling in a form could save her ( me ) anything from 800-2000 Baht   moneysmile
« Last Edit: July 28, 2019, 08:27:56 PM by Smithy »

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 08:35:50 PM »
Interesting post. Thanks.

I was at Buriram Immigration a couple of weeks back. I was getting 60 day extension based on marriage.

The IO asked if I/my wife had registered my address. I said that we had. He asked if I had the slip with me.

I showed it to him and he was happy, even though I had been out of the country 3 times since I reported.

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2019, 08:52:35 PM »
This link is pertinent to the discussion... A petition to government about TM 30 requirements being so outdated and a useless waste of time...

http://reform-thai-immigration.com/

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2019, 08:21:37 AM »
I registered for TM30 online a few weeks ago using the Section38 android app. I used the app rather than the website as the app is all in English. I registered myself as the housemaster and the docs I uploaded were scanned copies of my wifes ID Card and Tabbien bahn and my passport ID page. I received my userid and password the next day via email. Never used it to report yet, just getting everything ready. The app is in the playstore. See below.
 
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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 08:57:58 AM »
I registered for TM30 online a few weeks ago using the Section38 android app..

I just had a look at the APP and its virtually the same as the Site ( asking the same questions ) but a slightly different layout .

Did you manage to print out the report OK to put in your passport ?

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2019, 09:11:25 AM »
I registered for TM30 online a few weeks ago using the Section38 android app..

I just had a look at the APP and its virtually the same as the Site ( asking the same questions ) but a slightly different layout .

Did you manage to print out the report OK to put in your passport ?
I haven't used it to report yet, just getting everything ready.
There is a search function so you can display the reports you have made.
I will just do a screencopy and put that in my passport.

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2019, 09:18:19 AM »
Just logged on to the website and as you complete the report form, some of the drop down selections are Thai only. See attachment for Point of Entry drop down.

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 09:18:54 AM »
This link is pertinent to the discussion... A petition to government about TM 30 requirements being so outdated and a useless waste of time...

http://reform-thai-immigration.com/

Expat group petitions Thai immigration to abolish TM30 form



A group of expats, representing foreigners living in Thailand for many years, has prepared a petition for affected expats to sign, before they present it to Thai Immigration and government officials. They are requesting changes to the enforcement of the controversial TM30 form.

There is a link to their website at the bottom of the page where you can sign the petition and become involved. Over to you?

To the Thai Government and Thai Immigration

We are a representative group of foreign and Thai people living in Thailand with Thai spouses or partners and Thai children. We work here, contribute to the community and the economy of the country. We love
Thailand and do our best to stay compliant with local laws. Recently, the new rules applied at
immigration are causing huge problems for the foreigner community and some of whom who have lived here and have caused no problems at all with the Thai authorities.

Under Article 37, any foreigner residing in Thailand who visits another province for more than 24 hours must report to immigration. There are 77 provinces in Thailand. This means if a foreign teacher lives in Buriram and decides to spend a weekend in Surin, on Monday morning, he can?t teach. He must report to immigration. Even if he stays with his wife and children, and the landlord (his wife) must also report to immigration with a form TM30. Immigration already has records of all foreigner?s addresses. Any foreigner must provide his/her address via the form TM47 if he stays in Thailand for 90 days.

We completely understand the reasoning behind the form TM47 and many have welcomed the online reporting. This is the case in most western countries. We must also apply for a one-year visa extension.

Up until 2018 the use of form TM30 has never been strictly enforced. But now foreigners and Thai people are being fined for not having filed the form TM30 on returning to their home address following a weekend in another province. This reporting also applies to tourists but it is the duty of the hotels to report these foreigners to immigration.

What happens to people residing in AirBNB accommodation? Or living in houses with Thai landlords or even their Thai family as landlords? Many tourists are becoming increasingly frustrated with the new TM30 rules being applied.

Collectively the group of people signing this petition would like to see a change in the law which would lead to the form TM30 being abolished altogether. This Immigration law has been in place since 1979. Laws can change and evolve to stay in line with today?s technology. We strongly believe that the form TM30 is outdated and causes far too many problems which would did not exist in the past.

Tourists and expats arriving in Thailand are also screened at airports or immigration points. Technology has become better and better, reporting addresses on paper, in person, is not efficient and counterproductive. The use of the Form TM 30 does nothing to help or minimize terrorism, and it presents an obligation to Thai landlords because it is them who must report their foreign guests. As the form TM28, it is also inefficient as most police station don?t even know what it is is and often won?t accept it even though it plainly says it can be submitted to a local police station (See clause 37 (4) of the Immigration Act). So there are many modifications that could be done to clauses 37 and 38 of the Immigration Act of Thailand.

Respectfully, we appeal to the Thai government to modify the Immigration Act, or as before 2018, do not enforce the form form TM30 so rigorously. We, as a group, believe that strict enforcement of the form TM30 will only serve to create more problems and ultimately show a massive downturn in tourism, foreign investment and the existence Thai families living with foreigners. We request this in the interests of Thailand.

This is our solemn plea on behalf of every foreigner residing in or travelling around our beloved Thailand. Please accept this letter as a suggestion and as a means to resolve one issue, which we believe could only serve to add more pressure upon and eventually become a negative influence on the Thai economy.

Yours respectfully,

Long live The King.

Link to their website [ see Fishy's link above ]

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/expats/expat-group-petitions-thai-immigration-to-abolish-tm30-form?fbclid=IwAR2rOznnRm6x8cKf9YW12Nde9UsYOXQa_xWwFEXK2e9OItFvZFtz7ZAnsUs

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2019, 09:22:45 AM »
Just logged on to the website and as you complete the report form, some of the drop down selections are Thai only. See attachment for Point of Entry drop down.

Here is some screen shots from the Website that I saw on social media ....though I haven't tried it until I receive my username and password
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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2019, 09:34:36 AM »
Good post Smithy.

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2019, 11:18:20 AM »
They have to stop the terrorist's  :)


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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2019, 02:05:54 PM »
I registered two weeks ago still no password via email.

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2019, 03:06:55 PM »
I registered two weeks ago still no password via email.

Did you get an email asking you to confirm your email address like the one I posted . ?

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Re: TM30 Online Reporting
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2019, 10:20:56 AM »
The link does not seem to be working.

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2019, 11:00:43 AM »
Yes

 

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