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Title: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Mod on September 22, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Italiantony on September 22, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: urleft on September 22, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
They set up in layers and the multiple entrances around the bus station

They've been there the last two times I ate at my favorite Noodle place.



On another note, when I was young and dumb I was in a single vehicle motocycle accident (my fault).  I flew over the handle bars and landed on my back.  I was dazzed, but basically unhurt.  I took off my helmet and the whole side of it was scraped.  Better the helmet than my head.   bike037
 
 


 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: CO-CO on September 22, 2012, 01:37:43 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Italiantony on September 22, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Well with a 200 Baht fine who really cares.
It dosen't make me public enemy number 1.
After all most people drink and drive here because if you get caught it's a small fine (or payment say 5,000 or 6,000 Baht)
But would think twice about doing the same thing back in the country of origin.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Alan on September 22, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Well with a 200 Baht fine who really cares.
It dosen't make me public enemy number 1.
After all most people drink and drive here because if you get caught it's a small fine (or payment say 5,000 or 6,000 Baht)
But would think twice about doing the same thing back in the country of origin.
Many Thai people have a problem with wearing a helmet and unfortunately many of them are young so the safety message is not getting through. I was involved in a seriouse motorcycle accident this time last year and I am still recovering from the injuries. My european full face helmet was smashed up pretty bad and had I not been wearing it I am sure I would have died. The hospital treatment I recieved in Thailand was very poor to say the least and the sights I saw from many other motorcycle accidents which were the majority of patients was quite sickening. Not many head injury patients though as most of these don't survive!
I took part in a government "wear a helmet" campaighn last April in Buriram. All the big bikers were invited to turn up and support this cause to enchorage the younger generation into wearing helmets. I think over 300 helmets were given away with promotional Tee shirts etc with a paraid around the city. It is up to us all to help get the message through to the younger generation and set an example especially those that have children or grandchildren of there own Tony!
I am in the UK still recovering from my accident and I will have lost 18 months to 2 years of living my life but thanks to that helmet I still have a life yet to live.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: isanbirder on September 22, 2012, 04:00:05 PM
Thanks for your post, Alan.  And good luck for a full recovery.

One of my near neighbours died in a motorbike accident last year.

One would hope that the Europeans here, supposedly having a better education, would have more sense than to ride without a helmet... or to drive drunk.  Yes, you may be lucky... but many others have tried it in Thailand and finished up dead.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Nobby on September 22, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
As my previous post has been deleted re stupidity of NOT wearing a crash helmet, so I second Isanbirders sentiments.

Get well soon Alan and i hope you get back here and on a bike again, Mate!  bike037 bike038
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Alan on September 22, 2012, 06:12:45 PM
Thanks Isanbirder and Nobby,

Having ridden motorbikes for more than 30 years in the Uk I am very familiar with wearing a helmet and unfortunately have friends and family that have been in fatal accidents. I admit I did try riding without a helmet once shortly after I arrived in Thailand. I wanted to experience the feeling but to be honest I felt vulnerable and I got fined and felt pretty stupid.

The problems with not wearing a helmet are obviously not apparent to those that do it although it does not take a genius to see the dangers it presents. Those that do not wear a helmet should be aware though of the affects they cause when an accident happens.
Thailand emergency services are underfunded and underskilled and every responce to unnecessay injury stretches and restricts them further. Family, friends and loved ones are all affected and for those that need long term care burden there loved ones with that task.
Accidents cannot be planned or avoided. Thai drivers are rarely in full control and also have little regard for the safety of other road users leading to high risk and accident rates.
Nearly all western countries have had helmet laws for many years now so there is no excuses for farangs who can afford to buy good quality and comfortable helmets.
Thai culture is changing slowly regarding this law and its up to everyone to comply and set an example and protect themselves and there loved ones and not burden this country with idiotic arguements.

Arguements of messing ones hair up do not hold up or apply to many members!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: TBWG on September 22, 2012, 06:34:11 PM
Arguments of messing ones hair up do not hold up or apply to many members! :D :D


TBWG buriram_united sawadi
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 22, 2012, 07:16:56 PM
Nobody have a turban?
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Jamaw on September 22, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
Helmets and licences, totally agree and I always do but will this apply to the 11, 12 & 13 year olds riding motorcycles, in particular the son and daughter (12 & 14) of a policeman that lives near me? Oh I bloody hope so.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Happylarry on September 22, 2012, 09:17:28 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Well with a 200 Baht fine who really cares.
It dosen't make me public enemy number 1.
After all most people drink and drive here because if you get caught it's a small fine (or payment say 5,000 or 6,000 Baht)
But would think twice about doing the same thing back in the country of origin.

Doesnt that make you a hypocrite
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: chudless on September 22, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Well with a 200 Baht fine who really cares.
It dosen't make me public enemy number 1.
After all most people drink and drive here because if you get caught it's a small fine (or payment say 5,000 or 6,000 Baht)
But would think twice about doing the same thing back in the country of origin.

Doesnt that make you a hypocrite
bike038 I would say a hypocrite for sure...
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: nookiebear on September 23, 2012, 08:22:39 AM
I feel that riding a M/C at night without any rear lights is more dangerous than not wearing a crash hat
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: isanbirder on September 23, 2012, 08:57:50 AM
Agreed, Nookie.

Most motor accidents are the other fool's fault.  Wearing a crash helmet won't prevent accidents, but it might prevent major or fatal damage to you.

Tony, add "and mirrors removed".
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 23, 2012, 09:31:19 AM
One is a danger to you personally Nookie, whilst the other is a danger to all other road users!  The absence of either can and does result in death and injury. It really does make sense to obey the law!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 23, 2012, 05:35:33 PM
I think the UK is irrelevant. Thailand would not have statistics, but there is no reason to suggest the results would be any different.

I suppose that not wearing a helmet is not directly going to affect anyone else should you have an accident, but think of all the indirect consequences - particularly those that might affect your family and close friends. I think they need all our consideration when we consider do stupid things



Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: rufusredtail on September 23, 2012, 07:38:05 PM
I will add my bit , without any insults to anyone , where i live in australia its law to wear a helmet on a bike , thailand should increase the fine , make it hurt in the hip pocket, it would be interesting to know how many motorcyclists die each year from not wearing a helmut , i have worked in many hospitals, and seen what happens when you dont wear a helmet , its JUST NOT WORTH THE RISK .
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Jamaw on September 23, 2012, 08:29:09 PM
rufusredtail -  I agree with you to a degree. I spent one year in Oz as a training consultant, I loved the country (and I went everywhere) but I couldn't live there, too many rules- a police state everywhere.

This is Thailand and whilst we all share similar frustrations I do agree that we should hit them where it hurts- in the pocket. We don't want Thailand to be another EU state or an Australian State that is handcuffed!

Wouldn't it be nice if their was a law for common sense and people did not do stupid things?
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Gabriel on September 23, 2012, 08:48:22 PM
hmm i dont see how common sense and lao khao can be combined :)
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: chudless on September 23, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
 bike038 Maybe it is the wifes motor cycle ???
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: andy on September 25, 2012, 07:56:56 AM
I teach English in a large school in Buriram and we had the local police give a lecture to the our students on the importance of wearing a crash helmet.  The next day I was on gate duty and I counted six teachers arrive on motorbikes with out a crash helmet.  So why would young children wear one if the peer models can'e be bothered. 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 25, 2012, 08:00:33 AM
The Thai education ministry should demand that the head teacher of every school enforce a driving licence and helmet rule on everyone (teachers and pupils alike) entering school premises on motorbikes
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: dimple joe on September 25, 2012, 08:48:32 AM
The problem could easily be solved IMHO.

1st offence merely impound the motorsai of every offender (helmet, license, or tax) for a minimum of 1 week.

No release until a helmet or correct documents etc., are produced. If not reclaimed after two weeks the motorsai should be forfeit and auctioned.

2nd offense instant confiscation of the motorsai.

The BIB would make a fortune for a while, but very soon everyone would comply with the rules.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 25, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
Totally agree with you Joe -sadly it will not happen. Include lights and more than just 1 driver and 1 passenger too.

Far too many Thai do gooders would say the penalties are too harsh etc, but fail to realise that if the laws are complied with there will be no penalties.

Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: nookiebear on September 25, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
I teach English in a large school in Buriram and we had the local police give a lecture to the our students on the importance of wearing a crash helmet.  The next day I was on gate duty and I counted six teachers arrive on motorbikes with out a crash helmet.  So why would young children wear one if the peer models can'e be bothered. 
Andy,teh teachers are as bad as the kids..............start hitting them with a 1,000 baht fine ,the problem is solved overnight
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: davu on September 25, 2012, 04:36:36 PM
  When you get stopped for a seat belt check and see trucks crammed with school kids hanging over the edge of the back going by without a check, you do wonder about the priorities of this kind of stuff at all.
 However I have no sympathy with the young girls and boys that I see stopped virtually every morning because they have no helmet. They must be thick as two short planks, not wearing a helmet costs money. I have twice seen motorbike riders sliding sideways along the road for no apparent reason, both no helmet.
  Taking these kids around the hospital now and again might be more efficient than making parents pay their fines for them.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 25, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
If the fines were large enough, and the errant parents/guardians who bought the motorcycles for the kids in the first place were also heavily fined, there may be results.

And as Dimple Joe recommended, aided and abetted by myself, the motorcycle should be confiscated on a second offence. The vehicle should subsequently be sold with proceeds going to a childrens' hospital!
 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: davu on September 25, 2012, 04:51:01 PM
How much would a mobile bike crusher cost?
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Jamaw on September 25, 2012, 05:21:48 PM
We have to be realistic in that money is involved. There has been good initiatives in Vietnam, Cambodia and a few others that helmets are given free with every motorbike. Whether it is actually free and not added onto the price is questionable but t works.

Basically, there isn't a safety culture in Thailand as in Europe. I was at a building site in Bangkok a few years ago and the HSE manager, a Brit, told all the workers of they turned up without their hard hats and hi-vis vests they'd be sent home without pay. They turned up wearing their hard hats and hi-vis vests next day as instructed but wearing flip flops and sandals. Sometimes 'we' just don't think enough for them.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: nookiebear on September 25, 2012, 06:59:25 PM
BUT the checks usually vanish during school opening & going home time!!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on September 25, 2012, 07:48:10 PM
Some 8/9 years ago in Prakhonchai market, early one morning whilst drinking coffee, a copper came and sat next to me and started talking.

I asked why the police did not stop the kids on their bikes and enforce the law. The answer was that the senior police chiefs had instructed "leave the kids alone". Looks like that policy is still in place.

The police, the parents and the schools should all be held accountable for every accident involving a young child riding a motorbike
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: finnomick on September 25, 2012, 08:12:12 PM
Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram


As the Buriram province is the province which less of people wear the helmet so now the police in Buriram they start to be more tough.
The checkpoint will be around the city and some inside the city specially where close to the collages and university.

So ride with helmet and take your driving license.

Can see video here : http://77.nationchannel.com/video/299298/
With all these rules and regulations this country (Thailand)is becoming more and more like Europe every day.
I never wear a helmet on my bike and i will not start now.
After all it's only a 200 Baht fine anyway.


So are you saying that you encourage law breaking ?
Well with a 200 Baht fine who really cares.
It dosen't make me public enemy number 1.
After all most people drink and drive here because if you get caught it's a small fine (or payment say 5,000 or 6,000 Baht)
But would think twice about doing the same thing back in the country of origin.
Many Thai people have a problem with wearing a helmet and unfortunately many of them are young so the safety message is not getting through. I was involved in a seriouse motorcycle accident this time last year and I am still recovering from the injuries. My european full face helmet was smashed up pretty bad and had I not been wearing it I am sure I would have died. The hospital treatment I recieved in Thailand was very poor to say the least and the sights I saw from many other motorcycle accidents which were the majority of patients was quite sickening. Not many head injury patients though as most of these don't survive!
I took part in a government "wear a helmet" campaighn last April in Buriram. All the big bikers were invited to turn up and support this cause to enchorage the younger generation into wearing helmets. I think over 300 helmets were given away with promotional Tee shirts etc with a paraid around the city. It is up to us all to help get the message through to the younger generation and set an example especially those that have children or grandchildren of there own Tony!
I am in the UK still recovering from my accident and I will have lost 18 months to 2 years of living my life but thanks to that helmet I still have a life yet to live.

Spot on Alan, helmets can and do save lives. I guess it's up to the individual whether they wear a helmet or not, but if your head gets smashed to pieces don't expect sympathy. it's four months ago now that our 12 year old niece was killed on a motorcycle when her head was hit from behind by a door mirror on a pick-up. Her skull was smashed and her brain ended up all over the road. Would she be alive now if she had been wearing a helmet ? Sorry about being so graphical but is your head worth only 200 baht ?
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: finnomick on September 25, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
Alan, did you bring your helmet from the UK ? I brought my Roof Roadster with me and a Roof Boxer for Jen. Unfortunately the thin inner foam lining has disintegrated in both helmets. We can get them re-lined by Star Helmets in Bangkok but I am trying to source Roof here in Thailand. Roof helmets -- made in ITALY by Mavet s.r.l.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: davu on September 25, 2012, 08:45:46 PM
  All comments correct. I remember safety standards in the UK 40 years ago - about the same as in Thailand now. Elf and Safety has really gone over the edge in the UK now, a bit like feminism went over the top before coming back to normal. The problem here is that people don't seem to have the capacity for, or the desire for, learning or teaching, so any education funding would be wasted.
 
 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Nobby on January 03, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
Alan, did you bring your helmet from the UK ? I brought my Roof Roadster with me and a Roof Boxer for Jen. Unfortunately the thin inner foam lining has disintegrated in both helmets. We can get them re-lined by Star Helmets in Bangkok but I am trying to source Roof here in Thailand. Roof helmets -- made in ITALY by Mavet s.r.l.

Didn't know that. I allso have a Roof lid and always thought it was made in France. Learn something new every day. BTW mine has started to disintergrate too!  bike037
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: urleft on January 03, 2013, 11:10:00 PM
I admit to being kind of a hypocrite.  I do not usually wear a helmet in the village going to get something local, and usually when I cross 219 to 7-11 I don't have a helmet. 

But every other time I ride, I am wearing a helmet.  I have never been on scooter in Buriram without a helmet.

I want to get a full face helmet, but I want it in Red.  I have not found one in town to fit my fat farang head.   Until I get what I want I will continue to use my DOT helmet.


I road a Harley for over 20 years in the USA, and I had a Snell certified helmet.  Only dropped the bike twice, once in front yard on wet grass, and my last acknowledged stupid act on trying to take a corner too fast in 1997. 

So do yourself a favor, and wear a helmet.  Even the cheap Thai helmets when combined with your thick heads can prevent serious injury. 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 05, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
Some 8/9 years ago in Prakhonchai market, early one morning whilst drinking coffee, a copper came and sat next to me and started talking.

I asked why the police did not stop the kids on their bikes and enforce the law. The answer was that the senior police chiefs had instructed "leave the kids alone". Looks like that policy is still in place.

The police, the parents and the schools should all be held accountable for every accident involving a young child riding a motorbike
Nick: The kids are left alone because they wont have 100 baht....
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: davu on January 06, 2013, 06:03:45 AM
Some 8/9 years ago in Prakhonchai market, early one morning whilst drinking coffee, a copper came and sat next to me and started talking.

I asked why the police did not stop the kids on their bikes and enforce the law. The answer was that the senior police chiefs had instructed "leave the kids alone". Looks like that policy is still in place.

The police, the parents and the schools should all be held accountable for every accident involving a young child riding a motorbike
Nick: The kids are left alone because they wont have 100 baht....

No problem if they have no money. He knew he was risking being stopped. The bike stays there or goes to the police station until the  ฿100 is paid by the guy showing that he has a helmet. Guarantee you wouldn't see any more guys driving without.
Daughter in law's son got a bike yesterday, he was given a helmet. Looked like I could crack it with my bare hands but certainly better than nothing, even a head scarf will reduce injuries.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: nookiebear on January 06, 2013, 06:50:27 AM
Make the fine 1,000 baht & all & sundry would wear one!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 06:57:33 AM
1000bt is too low.

Make it 5000bt. If you don't break the law you will never have to pay, so nobody can turn round and say it is too much.

Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Nobby on January 06, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
Everyone wears helmets in BKK, so why not Isaan?

The only excuse is a lazy & inefficiant police force.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
Everyone wears helmets in BKK, so why not Isaan?

The only excuse is a lazy & inefficiant police force.

NO

50% lazy and inefficient police force

50% stupid motorcyclists
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Speros on January 06, 2013, 08:30:46 AM
to me it seems that in the village people just jump on there bikes and go to friends, shop or whatever...there is no thought process.......what we all know is that you cannot tell people here of what may happen if they are doing something stupid because it is like you are putting a voodoo curse on them brick1 so if anything does happen it will be your fault...no one in the TGF family wears a helmet even with one uncle who has half his head missing from an accident several years ago who used to be a teacher and now has no speech, cant use one arm, and is a burden to the family ( dont get me wrong...i like the guy). not sure if any campaign can really help the situation unless it gets real...ie..main road...no helmet... forfeit your bike. knuppel2
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 08:45:51 AM
Exactly Speros.

It has to get real. More than 1 million new cars and trucks entered the system last year, and likely more motorbikes, yet the driving standards, and Police response is the same if not worse than when I arrived on these shores 26 years ago. And then there was a small fraction of the number of bikes and cars around.

Fines must be meaningful, 3,6 and 12 month suspensions must be commonplace for infractions. Kids under 16/17 must not drive motorbikes and everyone should be required to undergo training before applying for a driving licence. Bikes. cars e-tans etc must be impounded when found to have ineadequate lighting, brakes, tyres etc.

On 4 lane roads.dual carriageways, those that continually hog the outside lane (well over 50%) must be stopped, heavily fined and warned that any future infraction will result in their licences being taken away.

Then and only then will we see improvement in the accident /death rate.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Starman on January 06, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
People need to be taught that helmets are more a safety requirement rather than a legal one.

What really pisses me off is when you see a parent wearing a helmet, obviously as a legal requirement,but the two kids on the back have no helmet. The parent quite happy because they won't get stopped as they are not breaking the law.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 09:13:56 AM
Still on the road safety topic, but with cars.

It amazes me when I pick my kids up from school to see the mothers put their kids in the front seat  (sometimes 2 together). They have no chance if the mother has to brake suddenly. And most of the mothers are either nurses or policemens wives - people who should know better.!!!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 09:16:46 AM
People need to be taught that helmets are more a safety requirement rather than a legal one.

What really pisses me off is when you see a parent wearing a helmet, obviously as a legal requirement,but the two kids on the back have no helmet. The parent quite happy because they won't get stopped as they are not breaking the law.

They are braking the law,the problem here in Isaan is the Police don't enforce it like they do in Bangkok,Pattaya, Nong Khai and most other big towns and Cities  :wacko:
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 09:23:26 AM
The buck stops at the top.

Yingluk must be held responsible for deaths and injuries caused by having no helmet.

It is her job to ensure the Interior Ministry instruct and force the Police under their control to enforce the law.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 09:24:55 AM
Still on the road safety topic, but with cars.

It amazes me when I pick my kids up from school to see the mothers put their kids in the front seat  (sometimes 2 together). They have no chance if the mother has to brake suddenly. And most of the mothers are either nurses or policemens wives - people who should know better.!!!
When I was a kid I did the same when in the car with my parents in the UK. Over the years we have learnt this is not the wisest thing to do but through education and law enforcement we have changed out mindset. Lets hope in 30 years Thailand catches up with the rest of the Western world when it comes to road safety !!
Education and stricter law enforcement is the only way forward ( with the emphasis on education )
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 09:26:14 AM
If the Thais responded to education, there would be less need for law enforcement.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
If the Thais responded to education, there would be less need for law enforcement.

When I was a kid you could even ride a bicycle to school without doing a cycling proficiency test.If only the Police ( or the King was to set up a  Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents )to go to school and do something similar may lives could be saved . You have to educate from an early age!!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 09:38:24 AM
The buck stops at the top.

Yingluk must be held responsible for deaths and injuries caused by having no helmet.

It is her job to ensure the Interior Ministry instruct and force the Police under their control to enforce the law.

Come on Nick .... that's like taking Chang to court for causing drink driver  :laugh:
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 09:44:27 AM


Come on Nick .... that's like taking Chang to court for causing drink driver  :laugh:


Not really.

The government make the laws, therefore they should enforce them for everyones safety. That their employees refuse to do so needs responsible action. If they do not oversee their employees actions, then they should be held accountable.

All big business bosses carry the can for the serious mistakes of their employees
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
I'm not sure education would work with the Thais. Not only do they forget most things that they have been told within a day or 2, but they always try and circumvent everything.

Close gaps between carriage ways, and they will form new ones. Erect one way, no parking and other signs, but they are totally ignored. Fine them 100bt, and still they break the same laws.

Regrettably I think the only solution  is to hit them hard - very hard -  in their pockets.

No money for  discos,  lao khao,  lottery tickets and  mobile top ups, would hurt them, and hopefully bring them into line.

 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 10:01:15 AM
I'm not sure education would work with the Thais. Not only do they forget most things that they have been told within a day or 2


 

I think there has been a vast improvement in the wearing of crash helmets over the last year or two compared to when I first came to live here ....its working ......but working slowly but surely  smilenod

As the sign says 100% crash helmet wearing is the goal.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Speros on January 06, 2013, 10:15:30 AM
I'm not sure education would work with the Thais. Not only do they forget most things that they have been told within a day or 2, but they always try and circumvent everything.

Close gaps between carriage ways, and they will form new ones. Erect one way, no parking and other signs, but they are totally ignored. Fine them 100bt, and still they break the same laws.

Regrettably I think the only solution  is to hit them hard - very hard -  in their pockets.

No money for  discos,  lao khao,  lottery tickets and  mobile top ups, would hurt them, and hopefully bring them into line.

 
Yes Nick, it has to be financial, and it needs to hurt.....sure a few people would suffer at the start, but its amazing when the word gets around people would be wearing a helmet. 1,000THB first offence, 2,500 second offence, 5,000 third offence and loss of bike.
give the policeman who writes the ticket  50% of the fine...he will then enforce it
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
In total agreement Speros.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 10:27:08 AM

As the sign says 100% crash helmet wearing is the goal.

Either it is the law (in which case it must be enforced) or it is a Goal, which is little more than a desire.

Soft advertising which clearly does not work!

Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 10:32:16 AM
At the start of the campaign you got a Crash Helmet  along with your 100 baht fine when flagged down for not wearing protective headgear while riding a motorcycle  thumbup

(http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/admin/specials/nationphoto/photo/q5ij0DA.JPG) 


Shame it was a publicity stunt that didn't continue  :(
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
I bet she rarely wears it!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: sao baht on January 06, 2013, 10:40:14 AM
I bet she rarely wears it!

And she has the obligatory needle on the red fuel gauge  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on January 06, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
Never mind the helmet -did she have a driving licence? She doesn't look old enough!
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: binnsy on January 06, 2013, 11:32:42 AM


Come on Nick .... that's like taking Chang to court for causing drink driver  :laugh:


Not really.

The government make the laws, therefore they should enforce them for everyones safety. That their employees refuse to do so needs responsible action. If they do not oversee their employees actions, then they should be held accountable.

All big business bosses carry the can for the serious mistakes of their employees

It might be a start in the right direction if the Big Man in Buriram was to set an example,as he is often seen riding around along with his pals with no crash helmet on.
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Somnat on January 06, 2013, 12:08:01 PM
Never mind the helmet -did she have a driving licence? She doesn't look old enough!

You were obviously looking at that picture without your glasses on Nick :)

She would be a grandmother for sure mhihi      bike037
Title: Re: Helmet 100% campaign in Buriram
Post by: Smithy on May 11, 2018, 04:29:13 PM
Everyone wears helmets in BKK, so why not Isaan?

The only excuse is a lazy & inefficiant police force.

Just a reminder to wear your Crash helmet ( and the Family )  ......this was taken from Surin Farang today after Vlad drove home from the pub with his wife and didn't wear a Helmet

Quote from: georgefromcanada
It was my 61st birthday yesterday and I arrived in Sisaket at noon yesterday. Natty had a small birthday party for me and amongst the honoured guests was our moderator. He and his significant other left about midnight and we got a call 3 minutes after they had departed, Pui said they had hit a dog and then the road. (No helmets)

When we got there David was bleeding from the inside of his left ear. We drove him to Sisaket public hospital and after an hour wait took him to the private hospital in Sisaket . David kept asking why he was at the hospital, I would explain and 5 minutes later he would ask again. He just wanted to go home and sleep.

We left after Pui's family arrived but received a call about 2 am that he had broken his collar bone and had a serious head injury. I believe he was transferred to Ubon Hospital. The information I have is sketchy at best, Natty was intoxicated and Pui was obviously in an emotional state. I understand money was needed on the spot with insurance to cover the costs later.

I will do my best to find out what the prognosis is, but a head's up that one of us in in serious difficulties and the rest of us need to step up and help out as best we can!

So wear your crash helmet lads and don't be stupid or lazy !!!!!!

Get well soon Vlad  bike037