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Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: rufusredtail on March 29, 2011, 08:14:53 PM

Title: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: rufusredtail on March 29, 2011, 08:14:53 PM
i wish to live eventually in Thailand, but do not know the first steps, can anyone advise me
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on March 29, 2011, 09:26:18 PM
i wish to live eventually in Thailand, but do not know the first steps, can anyone advise me
Are you talking about the Thai Visa part or what?

As a rule:
If you have enough money you can get a visa.
In Thailand you will need to show 400K Baht if married to a Thai national or 800K Baht if you are over 50 years old.
*Money in Thai bank account on your name only.

Give more details about yourself and your future plans. sawadi
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: rufusredtail on March 30, 2011, 06:19:55 AM
Thanks for the reply , i intend to marry a thai , this year , if one is married , what are the implications of staying in thailand , permanently , are there any books on the subject, from what i have read so far , with tourist visa etc , you cannot stay indefinitely,i have seen farang houses in buriram, and in ban kraut, i presume they are permanents, so there must be a way around it , does one have to cross the border and back in , to get a visa for 3 months, just to stay in the country, any information on this subject would be appreciated.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Dave the Dude on March 30, 2011, 08:01:02 AM
You get a years Visa in you own country and that usually does involve 'border runs' every 3 months. One month before that first years visa expires, check the requirements for a further 12 MONTH visa 'EXTENSION.' THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT TO YOUR INITIAL VISA. Border runs are nolonger applicable but you just do a FREE 90 day report to Immigration.

Easiest option if over 50 years old (that requires more funds), is a extention besed on Retirement. Extension due to being married to a Thai needs les money but far more paperwork.

Hope that helps and feel free to ask away!

Dave
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: nookiebear on March 30, 2011, 08:06:13 AM
Admins post is slightly misleading in that he has forgotten to say ,once you are over 50 with 800k in a Thai Bank you can live here on a retirement visa reporting to an Immigration office every 90 days BUT you must arrive here with a 1 year 'O' multi entry visa
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on March 30, 2011, 12:02:14 PM
Admins post is slightly misleading in that he has forgotten to say ,once you are over 50 with 800k in a Thai Bank you can live here on a retirement visa reporting to an Immigration office every 90 days BUT you must arrive here with a 1 year 'O' multi entry visa
All correct, I can't give all Thai Visa requirements as there are many,also need the money to be in the bank for at least 3 months etc etc..

All details in the Thai Visa board:
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html (http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/board,2.0.html)

rufusredtail , Please read all details and if you have any more question or clarifications needed on this matter, we are here to help.

Getting married in Thailand: (Background/Documents needed prior your arrival to Thailand):
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,1385.0.html (http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,1385.0.html)

*Moving the topic to 'Isaan Thai Visa' board.

sawadi
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: tonypace01 on March 31, 2011, 10:50:00 PM
If you have a decent pension or other source of reliable steady income, you do not need to have the money in the bank. Best source of information on Thai visas is Thaivisa.com. It is accurate and up to date.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Dave the Dude on April 01, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
Should this not be transfered out of the Forum Support section and into the visa section?
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on April 02, 2011, 10:46:33 AM
Should this not be transfered out of the Forum Support section and into the visa section?
Done. sawadi
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: rufusredtail on April 16, 2011, 08:31:50 PM
thank you to all that have replied, web sites that have been mentioned were a great help,may be the law might be changed one day allowing one to stay 6 months at a time.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: manupete on April 16, 2011, 08:55:09 PM
thank you to all that have replied, web sites that have been mentioned were a great help,may be the law might be changed one day allowing one to stay 6 months at a time.

You can..........,you get a Double entry tourist visa ( two lots of 60 days ) before you come to Thailand and after 60 days you can extend it for 30 days ( cost 1900 baht ) at the Immigration Office  ,giving you 90 days before you have to go and do your first  board run,extend for 30 days after the next 60 day visa has come to the end giving you 180 days ( six months ) Even us that live here full time have to go to the Immigration office or the  boarder every 90 days  :)

Or get a one year visa before you come to Thailand ,either a retirement Visa or a Visa to meet and stay with family or friends .You will still have to do a boarder run every 90 though !!!!...This can be extended after a year  :)
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on April 16, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
thank you to all that have replied, web sites that have been mentioned were a great help,may be the law might be changed one day allowing one to stay 6 months at a time.

You can..........,you get a Double entry tourist visa ( two lots of 60 days ) before you come to Thailand and after 60 days you can extend it for 30 days ( cost 1900 baht ) at the Immigration Office  ,giving you 90 days before you have to go and do your first  board run,extend for 30 days after the next 60 day visa has come to the end giving you 180 days ( six months ) Even us that live here full time have to go to the Immigration office or the  boarder every 90 days  :)

Or get a one year visa before you come to Thailand ,either a retirement Visa or a Visa to meet and stay with family or friends .You will still have to do a boarder run every 90 though !!!!...This can be extended after a year  :)


Is the Tourist Visa free ?
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: manupete on April 16, 2011, 09:35:06 PM

Is the Tourist Visa free ?

 I think they were only  free until 31 March 2011.. :(
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 17, 2011, 06:01:43 AM
I thought they were extended yet again.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on April 17, 2011, 09:35:17 AM
I thought they were extended yet again.
The free tourist visa was until 31st March 2011.

I haven't found supporting link to this claim so I think its not free anymore.
It was an action of attempt to encourage tourist into Thailand.
sawadi
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 17, 2011, 01:24:23 PM
I believe you are correct Admin.

From April 1st 2011, no longer free.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on April 17, 2011, 05:09:40 PM
Bugger !
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: rufusredtail on April 17, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
Some have said that money must be in a bank acc, for more than a month , setting up a bank acc in Thailand , requires what ? Does one need so many points as in Australia, and documents etc, is there any one bank that is easier to deal with, also a query i change money in bkk with superrich, so i get a better rate, where is the closest money exchanger in ban kraut, or does one have to use a bank, thanks
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: manupete on April 17, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
Some have said that money must be in a bank acc, for more than a month , setting up a bank acc in Thailand , requires what ? Does one need so many points as in Australia, and documents etc, is there any one bank that is easier to deal with, also a query i change money in bkk with superrich, so i get a better rate, where is the closest money exchanger in ban kraut, or does one have to use a bank, thanks
To open an Account...... Go into any bank of your choice with the house book of where you are staying and your passport, 500 baht to deposit into the account and 200 Baht for an ATM card which will be issued at the same time,its easy. :)
Money in the bank for visa extensions is 2 months the first time and 3 months before the following years of your stay . :)
Most bank rates are about the same but can change slightly from day to day  :)
Most banks change money  :)
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Pee Nuu on April 18, 2011, 08:25:42 AM
If you have a decent pension or other source of reliable steady income, you do not need to have the money in the bank. Best source of information on Thai visas is Thaivisa.com. It is accurate and up to date.
In fact, if you wish, one doesn't even require a marriage or old geezers visa. Just continue to make visa runs forever - don't need to meet the bank/money requirements. Though, it can become rather burdening.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: dundeemk6 on May 01, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
you are asked to fork out 2.000.000 just for getting married ... and then you are worrying for a lousy few thousand baht for your visa ?!?
You do have a problem in my humble oppinion ...
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on May 01, 2011, 09:53:08 PM
i wish to live eventually in Thailand, but do not know the first steps, can anyone advise me


First step is to find a girl that does not require sin sot - especially 2m !!!!!
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: nookiebear on May 02, 2011, 07:31:30 AM
i wish to live eventually in Thailand, but do not know the first steps, can anyone advise me


First step is to find a girl that does not require sin sot - especially 2m !!!!!
You'll have to find one who no longer has a mother!!!
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on May 02, 2011, 09:37:33 AM
i wish to live eventually in Thailand, but do not know the first steps, can anyone advise me
First step is to find a girl that does not require sin sot - especially 2m !!!!!
You'll have to find one who no longer has a mother!!!
As farang marrying to Thai lady you are expected to be supporting financially her Thai family when needed.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: den Buut on May 02, 2011, 10:50:51 AM
Go for an orphan. thumbup
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 02:17:13 PM

As farang marrying to Thai lady you are expected to be supporting financially her Thai family when needed.


I disagree Admin. They should expect nothing! Give them an inkling you will support them and they will expect the earth. Tell them that your wife is your sole consideration, and they can go take a jump!

The family were taken care of prior to the farangs arrival on the scene by the new wife and her siblings, and there is no reason why they should not continue to do so.

I have always advocated providing the wife with an allowance, which is hers to do what she want with. Whether she gives to the parents, sisters, layabout brothers or provides for further embellishment of the local Wat, is entirely up to her.

The only time in my opinion when the farang needs to consider assisting directly is when their is a death or serious illness IN THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY, and reasonable expenditure is beyond the means of the the family at large. 
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on May 02, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
Reasonable expenditure for a Thai funeral ?

Is it not the case that on many occasions the COST of a funeral is the last consideration. Savings (ha ha), insurance and envelopes do not always cover the cost.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
Reasonable expenditure for a Thai funeral should include the charges for the Wat, the Monks and the refrigerated coffin.The lavish expenditure on food and drink for the entire village for 4/5 days is unreasonable and unnecessary, especially when the deceased invariably lived from hand to mouth, and possibly died due to their being insufficient money available for healthcare.

Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on May 02, 2011, 03:08:53 PM
I thought 4/5 days was obligatory - irrespective of ability to pay !!
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
There is no obligation. There is no reason why, provided the paperwork is all correct, the funeral/cremation cannot be held on the day of death or the next day.

4/5 days is purely tradition, and allows the bereaved to put on a big show, usually at someone elses expense!!!
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Admin on May 02, 2011, 03:15:44 PM
Talking about Thai funeral in the village, usually the village have system of their own each person die all houses in the village will get envelope to pay to support the funeral expenses and its like a circle, of course many times its not enough to complete ceremony the way the family want it to be but that's a different thing.
Usually a funeral in the village is a very modest ceremony.
sawadi
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 03:20:39 PM
If the funerals in my village are modest, I dread to think what a lavish one would cost. It's the never ending food and drink that cost the money - largely for the village scroungers - who contribute as little as possible. What annoys me is that many women take home bags of food, + bottles EVERY MEALTIME - for the entire duration, and some donate as little as  20/30bt!

Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on May 02, 2011, 03:25:33 PM
Talking about Thai funeral in the village, usually the village have system of their own each person die all houses in the village will get envelope to pay to support the funeral expenses and its like a circle, of course many times its not enough to complete ceremony the way the family want it to be but that's a different thing.
Usually a funeral in the village is a very modest ceremony.
sawadi

If, as Nick suggests, there is an element of 'show' these 100 Baht collections won't nearly cover the cost.

When my partner's son died 4 years ago it was not an elaborate 4/5 affair but she did want a nice stupa and coffin.

The cost was in excess of 75,000 Baht and there was a 35,000 Baht shortfall.

I covered the shortfall in lieu of sin sod.
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: manupete on May 02, 2011, 03:48:37 PM

I covered the shortfall in lieu of sin sod.


They tuck you up somewhere down the line Ray  :laugh:
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Vombatus on May 02, 2011, 04:34:10 PM

I covered the shortfall in lieu of sin sod.


They tuck you up somewhere down the line Ray  :laugh:

happy to help with what I want to help with (and what I consider to be fair and reasonable)
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 04:47:05 PM

happy to help with what I want to help with (and what I consider to be fair and reasonable)

That is the correct way.

YOU decide when to help and for what. Not them!

Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: manupete on May 02, 2011, 05:01:06 PM

happy to help with what I want to help with (and what I consider to be fair and reasonable)

That is the correct way.

YOU decide when to help and for what. Not them!

Yes of course,we all do , but Thais do seem to spend money on funerals that they don't have.Only this year one family in the Village spent thousands on the year after party ( you know the all night movies and what have you ) and then come and try and borrow money off you to pay for it  :wacko:
Title: Re: How does one go about living in thailand permantely
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on May 02, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
Sadly the Thais appear to spend more money on the dead than they do the living. If they cared more for themselves, their families, and their homes, instead of the dead, the monks, the wats, the lottery and all the black magic nonsense they believe in, they would have a far higher standard of living, and Thailand  itself would have a higher standing in the world.