Buriram Expats

Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: davureborn on July 02, 2017, 11:20:45 AM

Title: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: davureborn on July 02, 2017, 11:20:45 AM
I just saw a link on TV forum suggesting that https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do
is working, it seemed to be ok when I checked it out.
Last time I went to Buriram immigration I was told not to use the Internet site for the the TM 47 so I'm waiting for someone else to do it first!
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Ahab on July 16, 2017, 06:17:49 AM
When I got my extension of stay based on retirement this last Friday we asked about on-line reporting. The Buriram immigration personal told us that the on-line reporting is no longer available and you have to report to the office for 90-day reports.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: davureborn on July 16, 2017, 07:45:42 AM
Buriram doesn't like online reporting, last time I did an extension I was told I hadn't fulfilled my 90 days report requirements.
I had to insist they use a computer  and admit that I had. Anyway, the link I  gave above is no longer working.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Ahab on July 31, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
So for the 90 day report I just need to fill out a TM 47 and show up at the Buriram Immigration Office 14 days prior to or up to seven days after the report by date stamped in my passport?
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Geordie Boy on July 31, 2017, 08:46:41 AM
You do not even need to fill out a form now. Just turn up within the dates you identified and the immigration officer does the rest. Normally in and out in under 10 minutes.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Ahab on July 31, 2017, 08:47:36 AM
Thank you for the quick reply!
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on July 31, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
The online is working perfectly.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: CO-CO on July 31, 2017, 06:41:09 PM
So for the 90 day report I just need to fill out a TM 47 and show up at the Buriram Immigration Office 14 days prior to or up to seven days after the report by date stamped in my passport?


15 before ....... I think
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 01, 2017, 06:58:44 AM
So for the 90 day report I just need to fill out a TM 47 and show up at the Buriram Immigration Office 14 days prior to or up to seven days after the report by date stamped in my passport?


15 before ....... I think
14 before ,7 late I believe
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 01, 2017, 07:48:45 AM
So for the 90 day report I just need to fill out a TM 47 and show up at the Buriram Immigration Office 14 days prior to or up to seven days after the report by date stamped in my passport?


15 before ....... I think
14 before ,7 late I believe

Looks like nookie is wrong again:


    The foreigner makes the notification in person, or
    The foreigner authorises another person to make the notification, or
    The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail.
    The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires.
    The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.


http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=90days (http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=90days)
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 01, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
So for the 90 day report I just need to fill out a TM 47 and show up at the Buriram Immigration Office 14 days prior to or up to seven days after the report by date stamped in my passport?


15 before ....... I think
14 before ,7 late I believe

Looks like nookie is wrong again:


    The foreigner makes the notification in person, or
    The foreigner authorises another person to make the notification, or
    The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail.
    The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires.
    The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.


http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=90days (http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=90days)

You can read all you like............I take notice of what an actual IMMIGRATION OFFICER quoted to me
       ''Come 15 days early or 8 days late you pay 2,000 baht'.......
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 01, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
Always best to check with your local immigration.

The link provided above is for Immigration area 1. Buriram is not in area one. The website also hasn't been updated for 7 months.

As an example I know of a couple of guys who use Samui immigration. There it is 7 days early and no days late.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 01, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
The offical Thailand website says 15 days. 

https://www.immigration.go.th/search?q=90+day (https://www.immigration.go.th/search?q=90+day)

Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 01, 2017, 02:41:21 PM
The offical Thailand website says 15 days. 

https://www.immigration.go.th/search?q=90+day (https://www.immigration.go.th/search?q=90+day)



That website also says that you can do by post. Cannot at Buriram.

It also says that a third party can do on your behalf. Some times can sometimes cannot at Buriram, depends who you deal with.

There is also online reporting that cannot be done at Buriram.

Like I said before, best to get info from your local office.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Tod Daniels on August 01, 2017, 05:13:21 PM
Umm, sorry to burst your bubble there Starman but the 90 day reporting website is valid for ALL of thailand, NOT just division 1 (that's just who put the link up)

Immigration officers in offices in one buffalo villages scattered around the country don't get to pick and choose if they want to accept it or not. If it's up and running they gotta use it.

FWIW: 90 day reporting can be done in person 15 days before down until 7 days AFTER your actual due date. Again I don't care what some low level passport stamping half-wit at the immigration office says, those are the posted rules and I'd hold them to it if I was up there (which I'm not, so you're on your own). you do pay a 2000baht fine for failure to report on the 8th day after your due date though.

Also ANYONE can take in your 90 day report, it does NOT hafta be done in person by any wild stretch of the imagination no matter what officer you get.

When are you people gonna man up and hold those immigration officers accountable up there?

here's the website for the 90 day reporting;
https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 01, 2017, 05:20:49 PM
Umm, sorry to burst your bubble there Starman but the 90 day reporting website is valid for ALL of thailand, NOT just division 1 (that's just who put the link up)

Immigration officers in offices in one buffalo villages scattered around the country don't get to pick and choose if they want to accept it or not. If it's up and running they gotta use it.

FWIW: 90 day reporting can be done in person 15 days before down until 7 days AFTER your actual due date. Again I don't care what some low level passport stamping half-wit at the immigration office says, those are the posted rules and I'd hold them to it if I was up there (which I'm not, so you're on your own). you do pay a 2000baht fine for failure to report on the 8th day after your due date though.

Also ANYONE can take in your 90 day report, it does NOT hafta be done in person by any wild stretch of the imagination no matter what officer you get.

When are you people gonna man up and hold those immigration officers accountable up there?

here's the website for the 90 day reporting;
https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do

Yes, I know what it is supposed to represent.

However, no bubbles burst on my part. As usual you come on here spurting off and giving it the large.

What your local immigration office asks for is what you do. Buriram currently does not accept online reports. Some officials allow third party some don't.

I am yet to meet anyone who really wants to argue with an official that might be having his own ideas. Why??? Because those that want to live here for their own enjoyment don't mind towing the rope every now and then.

As I ask a while ago, please don't go in to Buriram Immigration with your inflated ego upsetting the officers. It only makes it worse for others. I speak Thai very well. I would love to take you to the office and show them how you called them half wits in a buffalo village. Then let's see how you get on in your next visit to immigration. We are talking about a little short visit to immigration every 3 months. No hassle.

Just wonder id the IOs in Samui are half wits in a buffalo village too?
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: davureborn on August 01, 2017, 05:58:43 PM
I hate to agree with (deleted) but this is the way it is, I did a 90 day report on internet just before my extension renewal in April. They denied that it existed and that I had to pay a fine. A few years ago I would have reacted differently but I managed to get them to actually use the computer to see that it was in order. You pass a sweaty few minutes with a fixed smile on your face when you do this kind of thing.
I asked last time I was there: no internet reporting. That's it as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 01, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Love you to Davu. Why hate to agree when you know you and I are right?
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: DeputyDavid on August 01, 2017, 07:55:30 PM
Well there you go. I'll be heading to the office when it's my time to report. Last time I was in and out in ten minutes. It's no big deal.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: smoooth2 on August 01, 2017, 08:11:36 PM
Tod .... you do seem to have a curious affection-affliction for the well being of us buffalo herders up here in the boonies ?

You'll be pleased to know that we're actually doing ok. We've had electricity for some time now, running water is available to most homes, and television recently arrived.

We also have a modestly successful football team, which keeps the natives happy.

Whilst many of us are no doubt extemely grateful, and hold you in awe for your offer to enlighten our local Immigration Office about 21st Century best practices, we couldn't really expect you to travel all this way on our behalf, without first establishing your bona-fide credentials.

Perhaps there is an Immigration Office closer to you that could use some "farang know how ?" You know .... hone your skills as it were, before you tackle any remote Immis.

From what I've read, Jomtiem Immi could almost certainly do with some expert, beligerent, in your face farang advice ?

Be sure to let us know how you fared.





 
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 01, 2017, 08:23:35 PM
Well I was going to test the system, unfortunately the website is bascially unusable for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.  It took minutes to imput my passport number.

But as DD said, going to BI is now easy, not like KCI.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 01, 2017, 08:32:06 PM
Well I was going to test the system, unfortunately the website is bascially unusable for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.  It took minutes to imput my passport number.

But as DD said, going to BI is now easy, not like KCI.


To be honest, KCI was no real hardship once every 90 days.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 01, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
Well I was going to test the system, unfortunately the website is bascially unusable for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.  It took minutes to imput my passport number.

But as DD said, going to BI is now easy, not like KCI.


Well I changed computers and used MS Explorer and the site works fine.  So I filled it in and will wait a few days to see if I get approved, otherwise back to BI.

Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 04, 2017, 10:11:02 AM
My 90 day report status is still Pending.  I expect that I will have to do the report in person. 
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Freddy on August 04, 2017, 11:08:02 AM
Last time I managed to get on the system I had the same thing. Despite their claims to the contrary my belief is that they don't check and approve from the Buriram Office. I don't even bother now. No big deal to go in person every 3 months.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 04, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I agree with you Steve, but remember this post:

The online is working perfectly.

If the online was working perfectly my report would be approved by now as approval is part of the online process, then there is printing the approved 90 day report.  So the website might be operational, but it appears to be useless if you can't get an approved report from Buriram Immigration via the website.


How's that saying, the operation was a success but the patient died. 
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 05, 2017, 07:08:20 AM
I agree with you Steve, but remember this post:

The online is working perfectly.

If the online was working perfectly my report would be approved by now as approval is part of the online process, then there is printing the approved 90 day report.  So the website might be operational, but it appears to be useless if you can't get an approved report from Buriram Immigration via the website.


How's that saying, the operation was a success but the patient died. 
It must be something to do with YOU...
2 local Nong Ki Gentleman have now used it ,the last one on Tuesday am got his approval Wednesday pm
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: maraudingscot on August 05, 2017, 07:28:12 AM
As said above, it is no hardship to go every 90 days, can make a little day out of it. get some shopping, pickup a few supplies. for me it is only 50km there and 50km back, approx. Plus the satisfaction of getting it approved immediately. Would hate milling around the house checking to see if it is approved or not.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 05, 2017, 08:00:41 AM

It must be something to do with YOU...
2 local Nong Ki Gentleman have now used it ,the last one on Tuesday am got his approval Wednesday pm

I'm not going to say you are lying, I just find it incredulous that a "Gentelman" would associate with you. 

 love6

Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Tassie on August 05, 2017, 09:30:39 AM
I just go to the Buriram Immigration office every 90 days.  The process is quick, painless  and done on the spot.  I meet other expats there and it is a nice time out.  No online hassle applications for me.
Regards
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 05, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
I just go to the Buriram Immigration office every 90 days.  The process is quick, painless  and done on the spot.  I meet other expats there and it is a nice time out.  No online hassle applications for me.
Regards

I fully agree with you.  The only reason I tried Online was because of this thread.  With BI now nearby it is as you infer more of a hassle to use the on line than to do in person.  For the time just this week trying to input data onto the website and the at least 5 subsequant revisits to check the status I could have had it completed.  And I just checked about 10 minutes ago, the status is still pending. 

That being said, if the online was working as it should (e.g., the report being approved by the next business morning) it could actually be easier.

Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: jmcet on August 05, 2017, 02:46:27 PM
I'm not sure...90 day report at BI can be a hassle.
Did my 90 day last Thursday and it was at least 5 full minutes before I was on my way home...Took longer to find a parking place and go the the office than the process did...
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 08, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
I just checked my online 90 day report status and it is still pending.  I am now past the 7 day before window so will have to go to BI.  But I plan to ask them why it was not approved, I made a screen shot of the status page.  Will report the findings.

Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: maraudingscot on August 09, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
I asked a wee while back, and they said they don't do online reporting in Buriram,
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 09, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
It was reported earlier on this thread that 2 expats were successful with on line from BI.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: maraudingscot on August 09, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: CO-CO on August 09, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
I have previously reported successfully online when under  Lap Choeng.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: urleft on August 16, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
Did my 90 day at BI today, took almost 3 minutes.  Some of that time was him telling me I was late, but he checked the computer and agreed I was at the 91st day. 

However, I showed him my 90 day pending from the online the said "We do not do online."  I did not discuss or argue with him as at least in my case getting to BI is fairly painless.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 16, 2017, 03:15:22 PM
Both of the guys who recently obtained theirs online report to Korat Immigraton office
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Freddy on August 16, 2017, 06:04:01 PM
I'm pretty sure the national system is fine. Buriram Office just refuse to log on to it and approve.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: CO-CO on August 17, 2017, 12:10:04 AM
A friend was told by Kap Choeng today that the system is forked.


I also read on Thai Visa that there was going to be a rollout of a "new improved online immigration system".... all I can say is that the poster is not normally prone to BS....
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: dimple joe on August 17, 2017, 05:46:02 AM
I heard that they are just waiting for the 90 day at 7/11 to be rolled out......
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Geordie Boy on August 17, 2017, 07:12:58 AM
I heard that they are just waiting for the 90 day at 7/11 to be rolled out......

7/11 for 90 day reports? Never going to happen as I understand Tesco/Lotus Express have signed a MOU with Immigration giving them exclusive rights to offer this service.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Tassie on August 17, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
If Thai immigration wants to outsource the 90 day report system I hope it is goes to 711.  There are many more 711 outlets than Tesco/Lotus making it easier for expats to gain access to the program.  This leaves me pondering, if the 90 day report is outsourced what will Thai immigration do with all the spare time they will now have on their hands?
Regards
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 17, 2017, 07:44:20 AM
If I am not mistaken it is BigC that has the contract.

If you spend more than 1000 baht in one visit you get a coupon.

3 coupons and then you can report.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Freddy on August 17, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
And get 70% off a kitchen knife.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Geordie Boy on August 17, 2017, 07:57:28 AM
Whilst I am tempted by the 1000 Baht and 3 coupon offer and the 70% of the kitchen knife, I still feel Big C would not be my choice.

Being rather "Hi-So" myself I prefer to shop at Robinsons and TOPS and I would hope to get reward points on my "1 Card".
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: CO-CO on August 17, 2017, 08:26:51 AM
Amazing how such little bait can generate a catch.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 17, 2017, 09:06:29 AM
Big C have also signed up to sell Cuckoo Eggs
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Geordie Boy on August 17, 2017, 09:09:16 AM
Big C have also signed up to sell Cuckoo Eggs
  Whilst this offer is tempting, I only eat Quials eggs with my peacocks tongue in aspic for my breakfast.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: nookiebear on August 17, 2017, 09:32:33 AM
Big C have also signed up to sell Cuckoo Eggs
  Whilst this offer is tempting, I only eat Quials eggs with my peacocks tongue in aspic for my breakfast.
No doubt Urleft will be 1st in the queue on the 1st day of sales!!
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 17, 2017, 09:34:46 AM
Big C have also signed up to sell Cuckoo Eggs
  Whilst this offer is tempting, I only eat Quials eggs with my peacocks tongue in aspic for my breakfast.
No doubt Urleft will be 1st in the queue on the 1st day of sales!!
We'll soon know. He's bound to post the photos.
Title: Re: 90 days reporting up and running again?
Post by: Starman on August 24, 2017, 01:37:09 PM
Went to Buriram Immigration today for an extension of stay.

While I was there they did a 90 day report for me too. I asked about online and mentioned that there was confusion among expats that had previously registered a 90 day report during the Kap Cheong era but could not do one now.

I was told that it is not the fault of the Buriram office that 90 days online is not available. It is rather the fault of the central IT department as they are yet to create files for BI to accept online reports. I was informed that it is in the pipeline. I didn't ask how long that pipeline might be.