Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: smooler1 on September 02, 2016, 02:52:53 AM
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Hi just after some information,if i come to thailand from the uk on a 60 day tourist visa then extend it by 30 days while in thailand do i have to show a return flight ticket and date ? How does this work because if so my original return date would be after the 60 days,do i just change the date when i extend by the extra 30 days ? Thanks....
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That is an iffy question. I have twice traveled to Thailand with no return flight obtaining a tourist visa upon my arrival. However, I have heard (hearsay) of people being denied travel (usually by an airline) to Thailand because they had no return flight.
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Good question. You don't need a return ticket, you need proof of further travel after expiration of your permission to stay. I have seen that just a confirmation of booking (not proof of payment) is accepted by the airlines, who are theoretically subject to a fine and paying for your immediate return flight after being refused entry. I'm pretty sure that Thai immigration would be willing to allow you to buy a ticket online to a place like Vientiane or Phnom Pen, maybe a bus ticket would do it if you can manage to find a site in English that would do that for you.
https://m.traveloka.com/en-th/flight/search/origin/single.BKKA.VTE.2016-9-3.null.1.0.0/null/null for instance.
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Previously, I used to travel to Thailand a lot using 60 day Tourist Visas issued by Thai Consulate in Perth (Oz). The Consulate would not give me a Tourist Visa unless I had a confirmed return flight out of Thailand. I once watched the Consulate girl log onto Thai Airways website with my booking number, to verify my return flight was indeed genuine, confirmed and fully paid.
I used to always wish to stay in Thailand 90 days, therefore my return flight was always booked at the 90 day date after arrival. The Consulate picked up on this one time, saying the Visa was only good for 60 days. I explained that once inside Thailand, it was my intention to apply for the 30 day extension, thereby giving me 90 days.
The Consulate was happy with this explanation, but required a hand written short note explaining this. I did this same scenario many times, and never had any problem getting my Tourist Visas, but for sure, I certainly had to show them proof of how, and when, I intended to exit Thailand within a 90 day period.
Upon arrival at Suvarnabhumi, I've never been asked by Thai immigration for proof of my exit plan from Thailand, but had they asked, I would have told them the same story. Presumeably they would see the logic of this, and let me into Thailand. There must be bucketloads of expats and tourists doing the same thing ie. with a 90 day return flight booked.
I strongly recommend you ask the Consulate in UK, or wherever you get your Tourist Visa, if booking a 90 day return flight is acceptable for them to issue you a Tourist Visa.
Also, when booking your return flight, make sure you can easily and cheaply change the travel date with the Airline if you so desire.
This may be handy if you want to extend your stay in Thailand beyond 90 days, either by upgrading to a Non O visa, or doing a quickie trip to Laos for a 2nd Tourist Visa.
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I think Smooth2s suggestion is the simplest. Book a flexi ticket. You pay a bit extra for the return flight but it will allow you to change your return flight at no additional cost. Solves any consulate or border control issues as when you obtain your visa and enter Thailand you will have the return flight all booked within the 60 days. Once you get your 30 day extension you can change the return flight accordingly.
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I have come to Thailand a few time on a one way ticket and never had a problem
Just say..... after Thailand you will be crossing the land boarder to Cambodia then Laos and then Vietnam and will book a ticket to fly home once you are ready to leave Asia. ;)
But i would get a 60 Day Tourist visa before you leave though, which should be quite easy and painless :)
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Thank you great answers by everyone bananadance
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That is an iffy question. I have twice traveled to Thailand with no return flight obtaining a tourist visa upon my arrival. However, I have heard (hearsay) of people being denied travel (usually by an airline) to Thailand because they had no return flight.
Tourist visa on arrival? Really? Very interesting.
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That is an iffy question. I have twice traveled to Thailand with no return flight obtaining a tourist visa upon my arrival. However, I have heard (hearsay) of people being denied travel (usually by an airline) to Thailand because they had no return flight.
Tourist visa on arrival? Really? Very interesting.
I'm sure urleft means Visa on Arrival :biggrin:
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/visa-on-arrival.php
BTW,,,it does say on that site ...... 2 They must have a confirmed return ticket to show that they are flying out of Thailand within 30 or 15 days of entry, as appropriate. Open tickets do not qualify. Travelling overland out of Thailand by train, bus, etc to Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia (including en route to Singapore), Myanmar, etc is not accepted as proof of exiting Thailand.
I have never being asked to show this but I;m sure some have,,,,I must have a honest face :)
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Being an American, it would be a visa exempt entry that got.
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Being an American, it would be a visa exempt entry that got.
visa exempt entry stamps have similar rules to Visa on Arrival
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/changes-visa-exempt.php
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A flexi ticket isn't the same an open ticket. At time of purchasing you book the outward and return dates. You pay Xtra at time of booking so you then have the option to change dates with no penalty. Upon arrival at the Thailand border you would be able to evidence a booked and confirmed return flight. After extending stay simply change the return date.
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A flexi ticket isn't the same an open ticket. At time of purchasing you book the outward and return dates. You pay Xtra at time of booking so you then have the option to change dates with no penalty. Upon arrival at the Thailand border you would be able to evidence a booked and confirmed return flight. After extending stay simply change the return date.
Or you can buy a full fare refundable ticket and cancel it once you are past Thailand immigration.
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on one trip out here I decided to stay for a few extra days. I just had an economy ticket and was pleasantly surprised when Thai Airways only charged £70 to change my return flight date. Admittedly about 5 years ago.
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My Advice for smooler1 FWIW :)
The difference between a single and a return ticket from the UK isn't that great
You plan to come to Thailand and get a Job teaching English with only a TEFL certificate when you have already been told that a bachelor degree of some sort will be needed to find a teaching job.
You may hate it here after a few months ,the heat may be to great for you and finding a jobs could be difficult.
At least with a return ticket you will have a flight to go home on and with no possible hassle from the Thai Immigration when entering Thailand as you have an onward ticket . If you do find employment and everything works out then the minimal extra cost you would have paid for a return ticket wont be a great loss.
I hope it all works out for you smooler1 what ever you decide :)
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Sofa king...ive already been to thailand many times mate so i already know about the climate and things thanks for the info tho..
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Sofa king...ive already been to thailand many times mate so i already know about the climate and things thanks for the info tho..
It's hard to give advice when you don't have all the fact. ;)
So get a tourist visa before you leave ,get a one way ticket and go online a book an outward fight to Phnom Penh ( about 2000 baht/ 40 quid or there may be cheaper option to other destination depending on dates ) for peace of mind in case Thai Immigration ask for an onward ticket.
Good luck :)
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Ok will do thanx party6
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If you don't mind me asking, what is your age?
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I will be 50 in june next year..
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OK, the reason I ask is that in some situations (but not all) people (say) 10 years older than you might have problems finding employment (Thais retire @ 60). Make sure you get the correct visa & Work Permit arranged by the school, as Immigration do spot checks now. I know a couple of agency teachers that were told to leave school & only come back when fully legal. They went 'home'.
Best of luck to you.
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He won't be able to teach with his current qualifications.
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Legally, your right but there are plenty of people (especially Agency staff) teaching here without the correct qualifications now. All qualifications are scrutinized and original documents are needed for submission to school/Uni/Labour office and Uncle Tom Cobbley!!!
OP. If you want (current) advice, PM me, if you wish.
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He won't be able to teach with his current qualifications.
There are some that manage to get a job after doing a 60-120 hour TEFL course and then big themselves up claiming to be a Uni English lecture trying to impress those that are none the wiser.
Would you let a Builder or Electrician build or wire your house up after he had been on just a 60-120 hour course ???
Teaching is and should be a Profession that should be only carried out by a true professionals, not by somebody that's done a few on-line courses hoping he can blag a job abroad because they aren't qualified to do much else .
No disrespect smooler1 ( I'm sure you're an intelligent guy that maybe could make a good teacher with the adequate training ) and I hope you don't think a few of us are 'trying to piss on your fireworks " by pointing the few potential pitfalls in your future plans !
Thailand can be a great place for those with adequate funds to meet the lifestyle they wish to live on a retirement basis, it's not that much fun when you looking for work with few qualifications or skill sets that doesn't meet the Employment rules laid out in Thailand's Alien Employment Act though....... because you need to find work to stay here .
Again...best of luck ;)
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Legally, your right but there are plenty of people (especially Agency staff) teaching here without the correct qualifications now. All qualifications are scrutinized and original documents are needed for submission to school/Uni/Labour office and Uncle Tom Cobbley!!!
OP. If you want (current) advice, PM me, if you wish.
In Surin and Buriram, if someone does not have the correct qualifications then they are teaching illegally. I know for sure that these two labour offices and the one immigration office that serves these two provinces, plus many more around Thailand but I cannot confirm this 100%, insist on a letter of permission to teach from the Teachers' Council of Thailand. In order to get this letter a bachelor degree from an accredited university is required. It has been know for them to also require an original transcript be sent directly to them, from the university in the applicants home country, in a sealed envelope.
Jobs in Thai Universities, strangely, are a little different as they are not controlled by OBEC. Jobs at universities do not require this letter. This make those jobs much easier to get. I know of one university local to this area that scraped the barrel so deeply they took on a guy whose highest qualification was one in plumbing, good if they spring a water leak.5555.
The problem is that these jobs, particularly in provincial universities, are not sort after. They pay lower than average salaries and often involve weekend work. That is why they are prepared to accept low level applicants.
If you want a good job with a good salary and better working hours, and you wish to work legally, you will need a minimum of a Bachelor degree. I have over 18 years experience of teaching here. Pleased to help if you require it.
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I know of one university local to this area that scraped the barrel so deeply they took on a guy whose highest qualification was one in plumbing, good if they spring a water leak.5555.
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Post of the Day Starman thumbup
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All good info, so what qualifications do you have to teach (for many years) and why did they ' let you go' ?
It's great getting CURRENT teach info from a Cafe owner/van driver and an ex-Door Salesman!!! yeahme
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All good info, so what qualifications do you have to teach (for many years) and why did they ' let you go' ?
It's great getting CURRENT teach info from a Cafe owner/van driver and a Door Salesman!!! yeahme
I have an associate degree and a bachelor degree from an accredited university. Both of which have been accepted by every authority concerned when teaching legally here in Thailand. I also have a diploma and a graduate diploma from a teaching college in UK. These two are not required by any authority here in Thailand but I decided to study them as a way of improving myself as a teacher. All of my certificates are here for perusal if you would like to see them.
I am still involved in teaching here in Thailand so always keep up with the current information. Not sure who you mean by "they". If you mean the last job that I had then I will answer. My contract came to an end and I decided to move in a different teaching direction. Much more rewarding both mentally and financially.
I don't have a van and I don't sell anything so not sure where that is coming from.
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You sound to me to be one of the most qualified on BE to give out information for those wanting to Teach here in Thailand Starman ...Straight talking and trustworthy bravo1