Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: gotlost on October 16, 2013, 01:49:02 PM
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Early extension renewal time increase at KCI
Kap Choeng Immigration has informed me that you may now renew your extension to stay based on retirement or marriage up to 45 days before it is due.
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The rules have always been 30 days :blink:........good news for some who's 90 day reports fall just short of doing a report and renewal all in one day......could save a trip for those ;)
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Bangkok stared this a few months back and the other immigration districts are coming around to it. As for the 90 day report they bring both into sync when you renew. BTW KCI has a NEW ELECTRONIC PICK A NUMBER machine and sign.
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As for the 90 day report they bring both into sync when you renew
Well they never have for me........in 12 years :(
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Sorry..Just unlucky...Ask next time they should and I have had no problem.
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Sorry..Just unlucky...Ask next time they should and I have had no problem.
I must admit that I have never asked.......Me and a friend have nearly the same 90 day report dates but different renewal times of the years ,so in fact it would do me no favors to change it as we would then be out of sync. party12
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My wife went in and did mine yesterday and got offered to her no more 90 day reporting for myself for a small fee.. I might take them up on that next time im there..
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My wife went in and did mine yesterday and got offered to her no more 90 day reporting for myself for a small fee.. I might take them up on that next time im there..
Grease the palms, 2000 baht.
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While this can be convenient, make sure you realize that:
1. The renewal date of the extension will use the date of your old extension. So if you go today to renew an expiring extension of 25 Nov 2013, the new extension will end 25 Nov 2014.
2. However, your 90 day report will be based on today's date. So if 16 Oct 2013 is when you get the renewal, you have to report back on 14 Jan 2014 for a 90 day report. Which puts you at a 30-45 day deficit.
3. But if you travel and have a multientry, not only can you over come this, I have read (unconfirmed), that if you return just before the extension expiration (e.g. 20 Nov 2014) you will get a 90 day extension and not have to renew the extension until 18 Feb 2015.
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Keith,all those 3 points are already being used & have been for as long as I can remember...Whats changed??
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If you have a "multi entry" visa you don't have an extension expiration. You have an "enter before date" and entering before that date will give you a new "permission to stay" of 90 days, not an extension. Extensions are only available at Immigration offices and not at borders.
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While this can be convenient, make sure you realize that:
1. The renewal date of the extension will use the date of your old extension. So if you go today to renew an expiring extension of 25 Nov 2013, the new extension will end 25 Nov 2014.
2. However, your 90 day report will be based on today's date. So if 16 Oct 2013 is when you get the renewal, you have to report back on 14 Jan 2014 for a 90 day report. Which puts you at a 30-45 day deficit.
3. But if you travel and have a multientry, not only can you over come this, I have read (unconfirmed), that if you return just before the extension expiration (e.g. 20 Nov 2014) you will get a 90 day extension and not have to renew the extension until 18 Feb 2015.
As starman pointed out your number 3 has nothing to do with a report. It seams that you have things mixed upped.
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Keith,all those 3 points are already being used & have been for as long as I can remember...Whats changed??
I didn't post it for you know-it-alls oldmanwithstick , there are always new members coming here that haven't experienced it before. newbie
Guess I will have to add a disclaimer in the future to that effect.
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While this can be convenient, make sure you realize that:
1. The renewal date of the extension will use the date of your old extension. So if you go today to renew an expiring extension of 25 Nov 2013, the new extension will end 25 Nov 2014.
2. However, your 90 day report will be based on today's date. So if 16 Oct 2013 is when you get the renewal, you have to report back on 14 Jan 2014 for a 90 day report. Which puts you at a 30-45 day deficit.
3. But if you travel and have a multientry, not only can you over come this, I have read (unconfirmed), that if you return just before the extension expiration (e.g. 20 Nov 2014) you will get a 90 day extension and not have to renew the extension until 18 Feb 2015.
As starman pointed out your number 3 has nothing to do with a report. It seams that you have things mixed upped.
So instead of #3, I should have added it as additional information. My Bad for trying to be helpful to newbies.
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Good to help Urleft. It is just that a small error in terminology can be confusing.
You should try helping on Thai Visa. If you get the wording wrong there you get crucified.
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My wife went in and did mine yesterday and got offered to her no more 90 day reporting for myself for a small fee.. I might take them up on that next time im there..
Grease the palms, 2000 baht.
GL - I thought you were one of those who said this wasn't possible!
It now seems that it is becoming commonplace - 500 baht a quarter not to have to arse about seems fair.
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My wife went in and did mine yesterday and got offered to her no more 90 day reporting for myself for a small fee.. I might take them up on that next time im there..
Grease the palms, 200s
GL - I thought you were one of those who said this wasn't possible!
It now seems that it is becoming commonplace - 500 baht a quarter not to have to arse about seems fair.
I only said it was not kosered. As for taking them up on the offer next time, that offer may not be there.
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
There is a Visa Service that have just started posting on Surin Farang Forum that offer this service for 200 Baht + postage ( EMS registered post is 40 Baht each way to Pattaya). You have to go to KCI to renew your visa and then to renew it one year later so in fact you only do 3 x 90 day reports a year. So anybody that doesn't want to travel to KCI could do it by post for only 840 baht a year. A saving of between 1160 - 1660 baht depending on how much you have given KCI as a backhander ! bravo1
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GL - I thought you were one of those who said this wasn't possible!
It now seems that it is becoming commonplace - 500 baht a quarter not to have to arse about seems fair.
660 ( if your only paying 2000 baht ) baht a trip because you only make 3 x 90 day reports a year,the 4th report is when you renew your extension and you have to attend ;)
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
Looks like their getting greedy. Was 2000.
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
Looks like their getting greedy. Was 2000.
Allegedly ...according to your posts ::)
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Some people are putting out 1000 baht for fule each trip to KCI. Look for the back hand to go to 3K plus. moneysmile
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Some people are putting out 1000 baht for fule each trip to KCI. Look for the back hand to go to 3K plus. moneysmile
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fule
English
Noun
fule (plural fules)
1. (dialectal, chiefly Scotland) fool
And there's a few of them about spot1
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sorry ..you part of the grammar police? boxingguy
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sorry ..you part of the grammar police? boxingguy
No ;)
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Good to help Urleft. It is just that a small error in terminology can be confusing.
You should try helping on Thai Visa. If you get the wording wrong there you get crucified.
Exactly, my point was being lost without your valueless input.
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GL - I thought you were one of those who said this wasn't possible!
It now seems that it is becoming commonplace - 500 baht a quarter not to have to arse about seems fair.
660 ( if your only paying 2000 baht ) baht a trip because you only make 3 x 90 day reports a year,the 4th report is when you renew your extension and you have to attend ;)
noted
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Actually 666.66 baht per visit. swordfight
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Actually 666.66 baht per visit. swordfight
As lease Math is your strong point thumbup
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
There is a Visa Service that have just started posting on Surin Farang Forum that offer this service for 200 Baht + postage ( EMS registered post is 40 Baht each way to Pattaya). You have to go to KCI to renew your visa and then to renew it one year later so in fact you only do 3 x 90 day reports a year. So anybody that doesn't want to travel to KCI could do it by post for only 840 baht a year. A saving of between 1160 - 1660 baht depending on how much you have given KCI as a backhander ! bravo1
I will send them a PM asking if you have to send your passport or just a photocopy. :)
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
Looks like their getting greedy. Was 2000.
Allegedly ...according to your posts ::)
3 lads here in Nong Ki paid the 2,000 baht................Just hope the staff doesn't change!!
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3 lads here in Nong Ki paid the 2,000 baht................Just hope the staff doesn't change!!
That was my thoughts also smilenod
It could be an expensive trip turning up one year later to finding out the new guy at the Immigration desk hasn't a clue what you're talking about :'(
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3 lads here in Nong Ki paid the 2,000 baht................Just hope the staff doesn't change!!
AND a 20,000baht bill!
That was my thoughts also smilenod
It could be an expensive trip turning up one year later to finding out the new guy at the Immigration desk hasn't a clue what you're talking about :'(
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AND a 20,000baht bill!
Plus...... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/400387-thai-immigration-introduces-jail-time-for-overstayers/
:o :o :o
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20k would be cheep but that's for overstay and this is not an overstay. Not reporting and this two different things. Its 2000 baht fine on day -8 then it becomes 5k when you piss them off,which I have seen them do in KCI but the kickers is there is 200 baht penalty per day tell you do report.SO for one year you could be looking at 60,000.00 baht. Thats a hell of a lot of Leo..
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I don't see what is got to do with staff being changed, or next year the guy at immigration not knowing what I am talking about, I will not have to talk to him about it, I have a 90 day slip in my passport, and 3 more already made out, all stamped, dated, and signed in sequence, when the current one runs out I just take it out of my passport and staple the next one in.
Im a newbie so I appreciate what you are all saying, if I've made a mistake then so be it,
On the bike... bike038 bananadance bananadance
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I don't see what is got to do with staff being changed, or next year the guy at immigration not knowing what I am talking about, I will not have to talk to him about it, I have a 90 day slip in my passport, and 3 more already made out, all stamped, dated, and signed in sequence, when the current one runs out I just take it out of my passport and staple the next one in.
Im a newbie so I appreciate what you are all saying, if I've made a mistake then so be it,
On the bike... bike038 bananadance bananadance
So they have torn off the bottom slips already ?
:)
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Correct, bananadance
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I don't see what is got to do with staff being changed, or next year the guy at immigration not knowing what I am talking about, I will not have to talk to him about it, I have a 90 day slip in my passport, and 3 more already made out, all stamped, dated, and signed in sequence, when the current one runs out I just take it out of my passport and staple the next one in.
Im a newbie so I appreciate what you are all saying, if I've made a mistake then so be it,
On the bike... bike038 bananadance bananadance
So they have torn off the bottom slips already ?
:)
Yes the guys here all have the slips
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I've already taken the offer, my next 90 day report is Sept 2014, same date as my yearly extension the amount paid was 2500 baht, I did not ask for it, it was offered as I have to travel so far..
bananadance party3 bananadance
There is a Visa Service that have just started posting on Surin Farang Forum that offer this service for 200 Baht + postage ( EMS registered post is 40 Baht each way to Pattaya). You have to go to KCI to renew your visa and then to renew it one year later so in fact you only do 3 x 90 day reports a year. So anybody that doesn't want to travel to KCI could do it by post for only 840 baht a year. A saving of between 1160 - 1660 baht depending on how much you have given KCI as a backhander ! bravo1
Yearly retirement extensions are available for 13,000 baht but you have to attend in person
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I don't see what is got to do with staff being changed, or next year the guy at immigration not knowing what I am talking about, I will not have to talk to him about it, I have a 90 day slip in my passport, and 3 more already made out, all stamped, dated, and signed in sequence, when the current one runs out I just take it out of my passport and staple the next one in.
Im a newbie so I appreciate what you are all saying, if I've made a mistake then so be it,
On the bike... bike038 bananadance bananadance
So they have torn off the bottom slips already ?
:)
I can confirm what the illustriousness Mr.bonghead has said. I have seen them and 1 more this past week, so we wait for a year to find out the results. By my count its 8.
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Yearly retirement extensions are available for 13,000 baht but you have to attend in person
I have a friend from Croydon who lives in Pattaya and I was in a Bar with him and loads of locals.None of them had seen the inside of the Immigration office for years.Most just get the Visa Agents to do their Visa's/Extensions ( Retirement only ,not Marriage ) they drop their passports in to the Visa Agents and let him take care of everything ,also they let the Agents do the 90 reports as well."
This seems to be a popular way for the Pattaya Expats to do their retirement visa's or extensions especially if you don't have enough money in the bank or proof of 65k a month to meet the requirements.This is all taken care of by the Visa agent.
From what I was told,all the stamps are 100% genuine and you get an official green receipt for 1900 baht from the Immigration office.What your paying for is the 800,000 put into a bank account in your name , a Letter from the Bank, and a helpful Immigration Officer to process your Visa/Extension.
I also know a few locals that have done the same and go to KCI to do their 90 day reports.One got a re-entery visa at KCI went back to the UK and had no problems on his return.
A simple way to get a retirement visa for those that struggle to meet the 800k requirements it seems :)
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Nookie, is that correct, 13,000 for yearly retirement extensions?
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Nookie, is that correct, 13,000 for yearly retirement extensions?
YES
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Nookie, is that correct, 13,000 for yearly retirement extensions?
YES
The correct price for a Retirement Extension is 1900 Baht at your Local Immigration office.There are Visa Services that can obtain you a Retirement Extension for 13k, give or take a few 1000 Baht .I have heard of some as low as 11,500 Baht, going all the way to over 50,000 for an agent to arrange this for you if you can't reach the financial requirements.
Just do some Google-ing or spend some time in Pattaya or Bangkok .Some even advertises on Thaivisa or other forums.
These an old saying " if you are prepared to pay a premium virtually anything can be arranged in Thailand ". smilenod
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Nookie, is that correct, 13,000 for yearly retirement extensions?
YES
The correct price for a Retirement Extension is 1900 Baht at your Local Immigration office.There are Visa Services that can obtain you a Retirement Extension for 13k, give or take a few 1000 Baht .I have heard of some as low as 11,500 Baht, going all the way to over 50,000 for an agent to arrange this for you if you can't reach the financial requirements.
Just do some Google-ing or spend some time in Pattaya or Bangkok .Some even advertises on Thaivisa or other forums.
These an old saying " if you are prepared to pay a premium virtually anything can be arranged in Thailand ". smilenod
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When I was trying to get my retirement visa for the 1st time in Nov 2011, I was talking to Tony at Visa King on Wireless Road in Bangkok, he made the generous offer that he would take care of it for me all for a mere 77,000 baht. I did not think that was a fair price.
The next day I went to Korat and for 1900 baht got the Retirement extension.
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Nookie, is that correct, 13,000 for yearly retirement extensions?
YES
The correct price for a Retirement Extension is 1900 Baht at your Local Immigration office.There are Visa Services that can obtain you a Retirement Extension for 13k, give or take a few 1000 Baht .I have heard of some as low as 11,500 Baht, going all the way to over 50,000 for an agent to arrange this for you if you can't reach the financial requirements.
Just do some Google-ing or spend some time in Pattaya or Bangkok .Some even advertises on Thaivisa or other forums.
These an old saying " if you are prepared to pay a premium virtually anything can be arranged in Thailand ". smilenod
Circumventing the rules only makes it more difficult for genuine applicants. If you can't meet the financial requirements, then find some other (legitimate) way to stay here..
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Circumventing the rules only makes it more difficult for genuine applicants. If you can't meet the financial requirements, then find some other (legitimate) way to stay here..
The only way to stop Circumventing the rules is to stop corruption,if there wasn't corruption rules couldn't be Circumvented.
Blame the Thai Immigration services ........ no the applicants or Visa Services for bending the rules ;)
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erik,
not blaming anyone...just airing my opinion...It's all Rock 'N' Roll to me bud
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Circumventing the rules only makes it more difficult for genuine applicants. If you can't meet the financial requirements, then find some other (legitimate) way to stay here..
The only way to stop Circumventing the rules is to stop corruption,if there wasn't corruption rules couldn't be Circumvented.
Blame the Thai Immigration services ........ no the applicants or Visa Services for bending the rules ;)
The only way to stop corruption is to kill the market....as long as there are customers then the service will continue....thats just my humble opinion of course...
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The only way to stop corruption is to kill the market....as long as there are customers then the service will continue....thats just my humble opinion of course...
(http://www.wra2.org/forum/images/smilies/smiley_kill.gif)........good idea. spot1
The only way to stop corruption is by making the penalties a lot tougher for officials if they get caught. :)
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Human Nature, you will not stop corruption. It is in the US despite all the laws and penalties. I would be astounded if it was not also in the UK and Oz. It is just hidden and much much more expensive.
So between hidden corruption (USA) and blatant corruption here, I prefer the blatant. You can buy yourself out of problems, and relatively cheaply.
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I just refuse to play the game, so in the end it will cost me more to go legit but that's my way. The people that go for it are as corrupt as they who offer the corrupt option so please do come down from your high horses. Giving in to the game is accepting corruption and so it will florish. Not my cup of tea ...
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I just refuse to play the game, so in the end it will cost me more to go legit but that's my way.
The problem is that people for the UK that live on at State pension only get £110.15 per week ,even if they have a private pension to top it up , not may people I know have the 65k a month to meet the financial criteria,they rely on the Combination method.When I first came to Thailand the exchange rate was in the mid 70's , now the exchange rate is in the high 40's but the financial criteria has stayed the some ( in most case's).
I think this is the reason some of the long term expats have been forced to obtain Visa's from the agents and pay the premium for doing so.
Many are quite happy to live on say 40-50k a month and can have a great standard of living compared to that in the UK.
Just by looking around in the farang run Bars and Restaurants,a large proportion of expats are staying in and eating and drinking at home ,because of the exchange rate.
Some are even getting married to their Girlfriend so they can obtain the married Visa Extention,maybe something they wouldn't have done if the Financial criteria wasn't so tough.
Even married guys are going to Savannakhet to get Non'O'Visa's because they don't have the 400k or proof of 45k a month wages,most being teachers with young families to support.
I don't think anyone would go down the Visa agent route if the financial rules weren't so tough.!!! :unsure:
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I just refuse to play the game, so in the end it will cost me more to go legit but that's my way.
The problem is that people for the UK that live on at State pension only get £110.15 per week ,even if they have a private pension to top it up , not may people I know have the 65k a month to meet the financial criteria,they rely on the Combination method.When I first came to Thailand the exchange rate was in the mid 70's , now the exchange rate is in the high 40's but the financial criteria has stayed the some ( in most case's).
I think this is the reason some of the long term expats have been forced to obtain Visa's from the agents and pay the premium for doing so.
Many are quite happy to live on say 40-50k a month and can have a great standard of living compared to that in the UK.
Just by looking around in the farang run Bars and Restaurants,a large proportion of expats are staying in and eating and drinking at home ,because of the exchange rate.
Some are even getting married to their Girlfriend so they can obtain the married Visa Extention,maybe something they wouldn't have done if the Financial criteria wasn't so tough.
Even married guys are going to Savannakhet to get Non'O'Visa's because they don't have the 400k or proof of 45k a month wages,most being teachers with young families to support.
I don't think anyone would go down the Visa agent route if the financial rules weren't so tough.!!! :unsure:
I don't think the financial requirements are THAT onerous. Especially, for someone who is married - to expect someone to have GBP 8k behind them is not unreasonable, irrespective of income. Income GBP 800 is not unreasonable for someone who has successfully planned for their life in Thailand.
I fully accept the impact of exchange rates moving from over 70 (in the UK example) to under 50. My original budget forecast gave me 140,000 per month !! :o
Also, the income of a spouse is not taken into account (along with other factors) so the 880k/400k and 65k p.m./40k p.m. is very bland and simplistic.
Playing it "legit" will never cost more - quite rightly - but I know people who meet the financial requirements but cannot be arsed dealing with embassy/immigration. They would rather pay a visa service company fee and avoid the hassle. to all the naysayers I would that in the HIGHLY unlikely event that the extension "loophole" is closed, these people then have the option to go legit. I am certain that there are too many vested interests at stake for anything to change in the near future.
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Playing it "legit" will never cost more - quite rightly - but I know people who meet the financial requirements but cannot be arsed dealing with embassy/immigration. They would rather pay a visa service company fee and avoid the hassle. to all the naysayers I would that in the HIGHLY unlikely event that the extension "loophole" is closed, these people then have the option to go legit. I am certain that there are too many vested interests at stake for anything to change in the near future.
Spot on CoCo smilenod
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Playing it "legit" will never cost more - quite rightly - but I know people who meet the financial requirements but cannot be arsed dealing with embassy/immigration. They would rather pay a visa service company fee and avoid the hassle. to all the naysayers I would that in the HIGHLY unlikely event that the extension "loophole" is closed, these people then have the option to go legit. I am certain that there are too many vested interests at stake for anything to change in the near future.
Spot on CoCo smilenod
I personally have no issues with being legit as I don't think the requirements are that onerous either. A little up front planning can go a long way. And if there is income problems an embassy income verification may be way to go. I got one from the US Embassy and didn't have to show anything, and I know a Brit that got one from the UK Embassy and he said he didn't have to prove income either.
The 90 day report is still a pain in the ass, but then I just live with it.
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Playing it "legit" will never cost more - quite rightly - but I know people who meet the financial requirements but cannot be arsed dealing with embassy/immigration. They would rather pay a visa service company fee and avoid the hassle. to all the naysayers I would that in the HIGHLY unlikely event that the extension "loophole" is closed, these people then have the option to go legit. I am certain that there are too many vested interests at stake for anything to change in the near future.
Spot on CoCo smilenod
I personally have no issues with being legit as I don't think the requirements are that onerous either. A little up front planning can go a long way. And if there is income problems an embassy income verification may be way to go. I got one from the US Embassy and didn't have to show anything, and I know a Brit that got one from the UK Embassy and he said he didn't have to prove income either.
The 90 day report is still a pain in the ass, but then I just live with it.
Couple years back the US Consulate in Chiang Mai was requiring you to show proof of income to getting this affidavit. Chiang Mai Immigration was also requiring all US citizens to show proof along with the letter. This has been stopped. Don't be surprised to see this reinstated.
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Couple years back the US Consulate in Chiang Mai was requiring you to show proof of income to getting this affidavit. Chiang Mai Immigration was also requiring all US citizens to show proof along with the letter. This has been stopped. Don't be surprised to see this reinstated.
OK with me, I was surprised when I didn't have to show any proof (I had it with me). Maybe they thought if I could afford the Embassy $50 notary fee I had the income. I am rarely surprised by the US GVT requiring paperwork, only by them making something easy.
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Visa Retirement Extensions are a bit like Wife's /Girlfriends
Some say " I got my Visa Extension by going to the Local Immigration Office myself and this is my Wife,I met her when she was working in a Department Store"
I think more people use Visa Agents than they let on and most didn't meet the wife in a Department store ...;)
But hay...who cares as long as we are all happy thumbup
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, and I know a Brit that got one from the UK Embassy and he said he didn't have to prove income either.
The British Embassy have always needed evidence to back up your income (for the last 10+ years) when providing an Income Letter.
Maybe your 'friend' just worked out a way of providing counterfeit evidence?
I am just glad I can go the legit route because I would guess that one day in the not to distant future, things will get harder for people without adequate income/balances.
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I am just glad I can go the legit
Me too. I've been on a Marriage Extension for 9 years now,these go to Bangkok Immigration to be checked and can't be obtained by the Visa Agent route.
But I know a guy that split up and Divorced his wife and was skint.He went to Pattaya and obtained a retirement extension from the Visa Agent and then started putting down people that had done the same.Lots of phoney guys around smilenod
As Co Co said " these people then have the option to go legit." especially when their finances change ,then they can get back on their high horse's and take the moral ground,pretending they have always been whiter than white ::)
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Paying for 90 reports :blink:
I think there is a good chance you could get this done for free if you are on a Retirement Extension ( or for the price of a few stamps )
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/90-day-reporting-immigration.php
Anyone tried it ???
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Locally KCI and Korat due not accept post but will accept someone else reporting for you under special conditions. As for posting only if your on holiday, 2 times in a row is iffy..
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Locally KCI and Korat due not accept post but will accept someone else reporting for you under special conditions.
I wasn't talking about KCI or Korat .... as my link....sending your 90 Day report ( if you're on an Retirement Extension ) straight to
90 DAYS REGISTRATION, ROOM 206
IMMIGRATION BUREAU,
507 SOI SUANPLU,SOUTH SATHORN RD.,
THUNGMAHAMEK SATHORN
BANGKOK. 10120
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I am just glad I can go the legit
As Co Co said " these people then have the option to go legit." especially when their finances change ,then they can get back on their high horse's and take the moral ground,pretending they have always been whiter than white ::)
Nobody forces you to be idle; with adequate qualifications/experience, some people chose to still work for a better life (like Stevo, Gary@Staffords, Alan the Builder and many many more).
There is no reason to belittle someone who has the 'balls' to get up and improve his (and his families) fortunes under sometimes difficult circumstances.
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Its down to personal choice, there are no right or wrongs, BOLOA
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I am just glad I can go the legit
As Co Co said " these people then have the option to go legit." especially when their finances change ,then they can get back on their high horse's and take the moral ground,pretending they have always been whiter than white ::)
Nobody forces you to be idle; with adequate qualifications/experience, some people chose to still work for a better life (like Stevo, Gary@Staffords, Alan the Builder and many many more).
There is no reason to belittle someone who has the 'balls' to get up and improve his (and his families) fortunes under sometimes difficult circumstances.
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Its down to personal choice, there are no right or wrongs, BOLOA
You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
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You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
for example????
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You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
for example????
The last thing I would want to do is name people and get banned spot1
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You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
for example????
The last thing I would want to do is name people and get banned spot1
Names do not have to be mentioned, only first hand facts and not gossip! I am interested in what type of people you know?????
Why mention getting banned of you are a newbie and not someone who has already been banned a few times,?????
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You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
for example????
The last thing I would want to do is name people and get banned spot1
Names do not have to be mentioned, only first hand facts and not gossip! I am interested in what type of people you know?????
Why mention getting banned of you are a newbie and not someone who has already been banned a few times,?????
I thought you was on Holiday abroad GS....you must be having a great time if you've got time to post on a small local Isaan forum party6
(http://www.smileysnetwork.com/vacances/vacances03.gif)
BTW..Great grammar for a English school teacher :D
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You lost me there Green Square,why are you quoting local Business people and who's family's have I belittled ??? The only people I have had a dig at are phoneys, who make out they are something their not. whistle
for example????
The last thing I would want to do is name people and get banned spot1
Names do not have to be mentioned, only first hand facts and not gossip! I am interested in what type of people you know?????
Why mention getting banned of you are a newbie and not someone who has already been banned a few times,?????
I thought you was on Holiday abroad GS....you must be having a great time if you've got time to post on a small local Isaan forum party6
(http://www.smileysnetwork.com/vacances/vacances03.gif)
BTW..Great grammar for a English school teacher :D
I am not on holiday and I am not a skool teacher. Why not answer the question Mister Crisp?
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I am not on holiday and I am not a skool teacher.
Well that's not what you've been telling us :biggrin:
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I am not on holiday and I am not a skool teacher.
Well that's not what you've been telling us :biggrin:
Where, I do not remember talking to you?
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And so on and so on and so on :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PJzMHObabo
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I am just glad I can go the legit
As Co Co said " these people then have the option to go legit." especially when their finances change ,then they can get back on their high horse's and take the moral ground,pretending they have always been whiter than white ::)
Nobody forces you to be idle; with adequate qualifications/experience, some people chose to still work for a better life (like Stevo, Gary@Staffords, Alan the Builder and many many more).
There is no reason to belittle someone who has the 'balls' to get up and improve his (and his families) fortunes under sometimes difficult circumstances.
.
Its down to personal choice, there are no right or wrongs, BOLOA
I would rather you didn't use my name in some childish mud slinging.
Green Square/Nobby, I know who you are.
I also know that you are barking up the wrong tree with whom you believe a user to be.