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Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mikeh on August 18, 2013, 06:14:18 AM

Title: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 18, 2013, 06:14:18 AM
Does any one know where I can get top soil   I liive near Krasang between Surin and Buri Ram
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 18, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Mike, My best recommedation would be to wait on HWY 226 and flag down one of the dump trucks carring soil.  Or maybe if you are in a village, look for the dirt trail and wait. 

We just had a bunch delivered (flagged down a dump truck) in the village.  Cost 280 baht per load, which included spreading. 
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 18, 2013, 03:03:16 PM
cheers mate
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 19, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
Mike, My best recommedation would be to wait on HWY 226 and flag down one of the dump trucks carring soil.  Or maybe if you are in a village, look for the dirt trail and wait. 

We just had a bunch delivered (flagged down a dump truck) in the village.  Cost 280 baht per load, which included spreading. 

You say "just" but the photos are dated June.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 19, 2013, 07:53:02 AM
tHE MAN WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP WHY KNOCK HIM FOR BEING HELPFUL   STOP BEING NEGATIVE    IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO ADD  DONT WASTE TIME POSTING IMMATURE RESPONSES
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 19, 2013, 08:06:01 AM
tHE MAN WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP WHY KNOCK HIM FOR BEING HELPFUL   STOP BEING NEGATIVE    IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO ADD  DONT WASTE TIME POSTING IMMATURE RESPONSES



wELL SAID MIKEH  thumbup
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 19, 2013, 08:14:21 AM
Thanks Candy  I joined forum because THE BURIRAM EXPATS CLUB IS ALL ABOUT “EXPATS HELPING EXPATS”.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 19, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
That was a helpful post.

The point being that if he had top soil delivered in June then the situation now is totally different.

In June there was no rice in the fields. People were having their paddy fields deepened and possibly having ponds dug. There was an abundance of soil available, and hence the price was as low as 280 a load.

Look around you now. There is rice in the fields, there is no work excavating going on. There is a limited amount of soil available and hence the price will be a lot higher. As for the chances of seeing a truck driving passed, well that is very limited.

I am in need of 20 truck loads to build up some land at the moment. I can tell you now that it is very hard to come by.

That is why I mentioned the dates. To be able to help with the scenario.



Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 19, 2013, 09:34:30 AM
That was a helpful post.

The point being that if he had top soil delivered in June then the situation now is totally different.

In June there was no rice in the fields. People were having their paddy fields deepened and possibly having ponds dug. There was an abundance of soil available, and hence the price was as low as 280 a load.

Look around you now. There is rice in the fields, there is no work excavating going on. There is a limited amount of soil available and hence the price will be a lot higher. As for the chances of seeing a truck driving passed, well that is very limited.

I am in need of 20 truck loads to build up some land at the moment. I can tell you now that it is very hard to come by.

That is why I mentioned the dates. To be able to help with the scenario.








Well you should have explained yourself more clearly from the outset.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 19, 2013, 10:17:36 AM
Thanks Starman for the explanation   Pont taken 
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: CO-CO on August 19, 2013, 10:39:16 AM
That was a helpful post.

The point being that if he had top soil delivered in June then the situation now is totally different.

In June there was no rice in the fields. People were having their paddy fields deepened and possibly having ponds dug. There was an abundance of soil available, and hence the price was as low as 280 a load.

Look around you now. There is rice in the fields, there is no work excavating going on. There is a limited amount of soil available and hence the price will be a lot higher. As for the chances of seeing a truck driving passed, well that is very limited.

I am in need of 20 truck loads to build up some land at the moment. I can tell you now that it is very hard to come by.

That is why I mentioned the dates. To be able to help with the scenario.

I think he would have had to be clairvoyant to appreciate just how helpful you were trying to be with that post  :P


The helpfulness came in the additional 5 paragraphs in your later post  redman
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 19, 2013, 10:45:44 AM
             


     ''You say "just" but the photos are dated June''.

As you can see. All the information is in the above but not in as many words. You have to read it properly.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: CO-CO on August 19, 2013, 10:51:10 AM
Planning ahead is good if you can.

As Steve said price and, more importantly, availability is determined by the time of year. Most trucks must go for an extended holiday until rice harvest ! You do see some trucks around now, but very few by comparison.

I try and wait until neighbours are having a pond dug out - the nearer they are the better the price. Managed some at 160 Baht a truck this year although I expect to pay around 180 Baht.

I have probably had more than 1,000 trucks including almost 300 from our own pond.

As an aside - has anyone ever managed to tie a Thai down to exactly what cubic capacity those trucks will deliver ?
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 19, 2013, 10:54:21 AM
 Hope this is of some help co co.

http://www.tallyclerk.com/load-volume-scanner/66-truck-measure

 runningdog
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 19, 2013, 11:59:14 AM
I have just had 23 trucks delivered. They have come from the Kao Kradong area.

A high stone content, good as I am building up land for a new kitchen.

With the quality of the dirt and the distance it has travelled I have paid 500 baht a truck. Sounds expensive I know but the estimate for dirt dug from a rice field was 35 truck loads.

CoCo...I haven't a clue as to how many cubic metres. Seems that "a truck" is the general measurement for this procedure.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: CO-CO on August 19, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
Hope this is of some help co co.

http://www.tallyclerk.com/load-volume-scanner/66-truck-measure

 runningdog

Thanks Candy - phew! - a bit technical but I will suggest to my 'truckman' that he considers investing in a scanner.

Either that, or we work on his answer of 5 or 6. That wasn't actually his first answer - he changed from 9 after I pointed out the broad dimensions of his truck.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: CO-CO on August 19, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
I have just had 23 trucks delivered. They have come from the Kao Kradong area.

A high stone content, good as I am building up land for a new kitchen.

With the quality of the dirt and the distance it has travelled I have paid 500 baht a truck. Sounds expensive I know but the estimate for dirt dug from a rice field was 35 truck loads.

CoCo...I haven't a clue as to how many cubic metres. Seems that "a truck" is the general measurement for this procedure.

Yep, horses for courses Steve.

I am also going to do a kitchen extension and, at this time, I am not sure where I will look.

Question (just to maintain Candy's interest - plus the other 70 online) - what floor are you putting in - concrete slabs ?
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 19, 2013, 01:35:06 PM
I am going to get a CPAC truck to deliver ready mixed concrete, to put on top of the wire mesh that will be put down first.

Again I'm not sure of the cubic measurements. The floor space of our new kitchen, which is the major reason for the build, will be approx 11 metres by 7 metres. One CPAC truck, 8000 baht, should do the whole floor.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 19, 2013, 01:43:27 PM
Steve   Sorry to have been a bit abrupt to your early comment    I am looking for soil (DIRT) to create a good growing plot      THe stuff you use for building  on it not as good

cheers anyway
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 19, 2013, 01:46:50 PM
Steve   Sorry to have been a bit abrupt to your early comment    I am looking for soil (DIRT) to create a good growing plot      THe stuff you use for building  on it not as good

cheers anyway


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Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 19, 2013, 01:52:48 PM
Steve   Sorry to have been a bit abrupt to your early comment    I am looking for soil (DIRT) to create a good growing plot      THe stuff you use for building  on it not as good

cheers anyway

No problem.

You may be better off going to a garden centre. They will have some soil that is good for growing, almost compost like. They do sell it in bags, about 20baht a bag for about 5kgs. They may be able to deliver by the truck load.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Mikeh on August 19, 2013, 02:32:31 PM
cheers mate
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: CO-CO on August 19, 2013, 05:14:02 PM
I am going to get a CPAC truck to deliver ready mixed concrete, to put on top of the wire mesh that will be put down first.

Again I'm not sure of the cubic measurements. The floor space of our new kitchen, which is the major reason for the build, will be approx 11 metres by 7 metres. One CPAC truck, 8000 baht, should do the whole floor.

I got the numbers off Alan the Builder and I think a CPAC mixer holds 6 m3. That would suggest that to do your whole floor, the cement thickness will be circa 8 cm
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 19, 2013, 09:39:19 PM
Mike, My best recommedation would be to wait on HWY 226 and flag down one of the dump trucks carring soil.  Or maybe if you are in a village, look for the dirt trail and wait. 

We just had a bunch delivered (flagged down a dump truck) in the village.  Cost 280 baht per load, which included spreading. 

You say "just" but the photos are dated June.

No they are dated July 

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 19, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
That was a helpful post.

The point being that if he had top soil delivered in June then the situation now is totally different.

In June there was no rice in the fields. People were having their paddy fields deepened and possibly having ponds dug. There was an abundance of soil available, and hence the price was as low as 280 a load.

Look around you now. There is rice in the fields, there is no work excavating going on. There is a limited amount of soil available and hence the price will be a lot higher. As for the chances of seeing a truck driving passed, well that is very limited.

I am in need of 20 truck loads to build up some land at the moment. I can tell you now that it is very hard to come by.

That is why I mentioned the dates. To be able to help with the scenario.





As I said, it was July 6.  And there are still dirt trucks coming throught our village, was about run over by one Saturday night.  We used 2 different people, the 2nd came to us saying he had lots of new dirt.  We ended up with 72 truck loads. 
 
The guy right down from me has a dump truck, come to my place about 6 pm and talk to him.  I live in Ban Yang. 
 
 
 
Here's a picture from the next day. 
 
 
 


 
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 19, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
BTW, just took a pic of the guys dump truck, it is there every evening about 6.

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Starman on August 20, 2013, 07:22:19 AM
Sorry Urleft.

I originally read your camera date as June but, remembering that you are American, thought you may have your camera set to MM/DD/YYYY format.

Never mind as the situation is still the same. Dirt is very difficult to find right now. You are lucky that there is some on your doorstep.

Ban Yang is further from my house that where we got our dirt from, so likely more expensive.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 20, 2013, 09:20:04 AM
No problem, it's was my wife's camera so that is why the date is that way. 

They must have some kind of dirt pocket aound here as they trucks have been hauling non stop for 6 months.  I just kind of assumed it was the same all over. 

But I did see dirt trucks on 226 on my way to/from KCI. 

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: nookiebear on August 20, 2013, 10:20:48 AM
No problem, it's was my wife's camera so that is why the date is that way. 

They must have some kind of dirt pocket aound here as they trucks have been hauling non stop for 6 months.  I just kind of assumed it was the same all over. 

But I did see dirt trucks on 226 on my way to/from KCI. 


Keith ,you've at long last admitted to living in a 'dirt pocket'..........Is it true only your fellow countymen & Aussies are permitted to visit????????????
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 20, 2013, 11:23:10 AM
Naw, my Brit bubby comes by regularly, are we all know Brits are in arears. 

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 20, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
Naw, my Brit buddy comes by regularly, and we all know Brits are in arrears.

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Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: Speros on August 20, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Naw, my Brit bubby comes by regularly, are we all know Brits are in arears.
WTF..... You have a Brit bubby, sorry Keith couldn't make sense out of the rest, I knew yanks spelling was different, But please make sense with your sentences and punctuation!
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 20, 2013, 12:57:16 PM
Naw, my Brit buddy comes by regularly, and we all know Brits are in arrears.

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Just for those of you that missed it the first time.
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Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: candy on August 20, 2013, 01:51:26 PM
Fill your boots co co...................

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on August 25, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
Was out for a walk today, during a 10 minute period had 3 full dump trucks head for 219 and saw 2 empty returning.  So gettig dirt is not an issue around Ban Yang.  Took the picture of the truck around 5 pm today.
 



 
Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on February 04, 2014, 04:20:14 PM
We had at least 2 different people try to get us to use there top soil.  Ended up with 3rd guy.  Cost is 280 baht per truck, includes clearing the land and spreading the dirt. 

Here is where we are so far: 

Title: Re: Top Soil
Post by: urleft on July 02, 2014, 10:38:37 AM
BTW, here's a number of Thai Guy that will deliver Top Soil:   0898649393

He did the above for 280 baht a truck.  But he is going to get some very nice top soil for us which will cost more because it is further away.