Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: ban1216 on August 07, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
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i am preparing to go to get my first 12 month extension of stay on my non o visa and have a question regarding proof of address
previously i have shown my wifes house at the village as my home address but i now reside in our salon in lahan sai ,
as this is rented i dont have any blue book or anything to show that i reside there but i am concerned that should the powers that be decide to come visit me on my application they will go to the village and i wont be there
Do i just show the address for the salon as my residence and show pictures of myself and my wife residing there ??
thanks for any advice (or piss taking )offered :)
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i am preparing to go to get my first 12 month extension of stay on my non o visa and have a question regarding proof of address
previously i have shown my wifes house at the village as my home address but i now reside in our salon in lahan sai ,
as this is rented i dont have any blue book or anything to show that i reside there but i am concerned that should the powers that be decide to come visit me on my application they will go to the village and i wont be there.
Do i just show the address for the salon as my residence and show pictures of myself and my wife residing there ??
thanks for any advice (or piss taking )offered :)
Use your wife's village address not the salon. They will call (your wife) before cumming out. This should give you time to get your stinky back there. Our address for extension and reporting is my wife's home about 3 km from M&D this is where KCI did the interview even tho we live at the shop. No problem. BTW they normally only come out for the first marriage extension.
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i am preparing to go to get my first 12 month extension of stay on my non o visa and have a question regarding proof of address
previously i have shown my wifes house at the village as my home address but i now reside in our salon in lahan sai ,
as this is rented i dont have any blue book or anything to show that i reside there but i am concerned that should the powers that be decide to come visit me on my application they will go to the village and i wont be there.
Do i just show the address for the salon as my residence and show pictures of myself and my wife residing there ??
thanks for any advice (or piss taking )offered :)
Use your wife's village address not the salon. They will call (your wife) before cumming out. This should give you time to get your stinky back there. Our address for extension and reporting is my wife's home about 3 km from M&D this is where KCI did the interview even tho we live at the shop. No problem. BTW they normally only come out for the first marriage extension.
Agreed. Why complicate matters as long as you can show your face in the village still (Joke) !
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Ok fair enough i just didnt want em turning up and finding the mother in law sat there who would promptly drop me right in the shit by saying WHO nobody lives here by that name lol :) :)
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Just to be sure, 12 month stay on Non O visa, but must report every 90 days?
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1 year non tourist means a trip to the border every 90 days
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Just to be sure, 12 month stay on Non O visa, but must report every 90 days?
NO !!!
Once you extend your Non O VISA by reason of Marriage or Retirement THEN you can remain in country reporting your address each 90 days for 1 year.
If you go outside the country for any reason, the 90 day "clock" starts again on your first day back. You must get a Re-Entry permit prior to travel to keep your Extension alive.
If you arrive here with a MULTI ENTRY NON O visa the you can come and go as you please. NO address reporting but each stay has a 3 month limit. If you were to go outside of the country in the last couple of days of the visa and return prior to the "use by" date, you will get 90 more days. Effectively giving you 15 months stay.
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So I am in USA and still married to TW, and plan on coming to lOS with visa obtained here, non O based on marriage, then in 90 days I will need to report to closest immigration office for reporting? Then every 90 days until one year up and then have to do Non O again?
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Ok fair enough i just didnt want em turning up and finding the mother in law sat there who would promptly drop me right in the shit by saying WHO nobody lives here by that name lol :) :)
My Brit Buddy just had immigration (from Korat) come check him out. There were 4 agents. My buddy said when he began talking to them (one spoke excellent English) my buddy said something like "You can check with the neighbors." The agent said "We already did."
So they will probably ask around before they talk to you.
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Yes you will get a VISA in USA. Up to you if you get a SINGLE or MULTIPLE entry.
You DO NOT report to Immigration each 90 days if you are here on a VISA.
If your intention is to STAY in Thailand for a long time then you need to EXTEND that NON O VISA into a Marriage or Retirement EXTENSION. When you are granted that EXTENSION then you report your address to immigration each 90 days.
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So I am in USA and still married to TW, and plan on coming to lOS with visa obtained here, non O based on marriage, then in 90 days I will need to report to closest immigration office for reporting? Then every 90 days until one year up and then have to do Non O again?
Above is a NO.
You can get an O visa based on marriage good for a single entry of 90 days. On day 60 you go to your closest immigration office with all needed paperwork and wife to apply for extension to stay based on marriage. The thirty day under consideration after your immigration says OK to your paperwork will start at the ended of your original O-visa of 90 days. This 30 days time is when immigration will come to your home. After your application is approve you go back to Immigration and you will receive an extension to stay based on marriage (very large stamp) which coincides with the end date of your original 90 day O visa. At this time you are not on an O visa but an extension to stay based on marriage. Your 90 day reporting will commence from this date an a notice of your next 90 day report will be your passport. If you want and can get an O-Multi based on marriage these are good for 15 months and your conversion would be done on month 14 of the visa. This kind of visa you will need to do a boarder hop every 90 days (leave the country) you are not reporting.
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Thanks all. I will print this and keep in my BE helpful hints notebook. I do appreciate the help.
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Thanks all. I will print this and keep in my BE helpful hints notebook. I do appreciate the help.
Have you coughed up for another truck yet??
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i am preparing to go to get my first 12 month extension of stay on my non o visa and have a question regarding proof of address
previously i have shown my wifes house at the village as my home address but i now reside in our salon in lahan sai ,
as this is rented i dont have any blue book or anything to show that i reside there but i am concerned that should the powers that be decide to come visit me on my application they will go to the village and i wont be there.
Do i just show the address for the salon as my residence and show pictures of myself and my wife residing there ??
thanks for any advice (or piss taking )offered :)
Use your wife's village address not the salon. They will call (your wife) before cumming out. This should give you time to get your stinky back there. Our address for extension and reporting is my wife's home about 3 km from M&D this is where KCI did the interview even tho we live at the shop. No problem. BTW they normally only come out for the first marriage extension.
I disagree,why would you want to lie to the immigration about where you live.Your wife can ask the owner of the Salon for a photocopy of the Blue -House book and tell the immigration your Wife rents the Salon and you live there too.( I assume she has a rental agreement ? )
There is nothing wrong in living in rented accommodation but the Immigration Office take a dim view at being lied too.
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i am preparing to go to get my first 12 month extension of stay on my non o visa and have a question regarding proof of address
previously i have shown my wifes house at the village as my home address but i now reside in our salon in lahan sai ,
as this is rented i dont have any blue book or anything to show that i reside there but i am concerned that should the powers that be decide to come visit me on my application they will go to the village and i wont be there.
Do i just show the address for the salon as my residence and show pictures of myself and my wife residing there ??
thanks for any advice (or piss taking )offered :)
Use your wife's village address not the salon. They will call (your wife) before cumming out. This should give you time to get your stinky back there. Our address for extension and reporting is my wife's home about 3 km from M&D this is where KCI did the interview even tho we live at the shop. No problem. BTW they normally only come out for the first marriage extension.
I disagree,why would you want to lie to the immigration about where you live.Your wife can ask the owner of the Salon for a photocopy of the Blue -House book and tell the immigration your Wife rents the Salon and you live there too.( I assume she has a rental agreement ? )
There is nothing wrong in living in rented accommodation but the Immigration Office take a dim view at being lied too.
That way you will also required a signed rental agreement. You will also have to prove that the owner of the property informed the authorities that they have a foreigner living in their property.
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That way you will also required a signed rental agreement. You will also have to prove that the owner of the property informed the authorities that they have a foreigner living in their property.
If ban1216's wife doesn't not have a rental agreement she should ask the owners for one when asking for a photo copy of the Blue-house book.The salon is rented to a Thai so why should the owner have to inform the authorities.?
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If there is no rental agreement then how will they prove who rented it?
Either way someone should have informed the authorities.
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If there is no rental agreement then how will they prove who rented it?
Either way someone should have informed the authorities.
Yes,maybe now is the time for ban1216's wife to ask the owners also to fill in a TM30 form.It's a simple form to fill in by the owners and can be done by post .
Best to be all legal and above board :)
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Also why we are talking about TM30's
Buy law the owner of the residence must notify (by the Form TM.30) to the competent official Of the Immigration Office located in the same area of that house/residence within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien. However, such notification could be made in person or by an agent or sent with completed Form( TM.30) by registered post.
This includes anybody that comes to stay with their Girlfriend ,Wife or freind that is on a short term visa to stay in Thailand. Their wife , Girlfriend or friend must inform the Immigration you are staying at their address by filling in a TM30 .
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Ok some important information there and i shall do all this after i have my non o extension granted as time has run out now and i had to submit today !!
I have submitted my application now and i have the stamp in my passport saying i have to return to the immigration office in person on the 8th of october so does anybody know what i am required to take with me on this trip do i need all the papers again and proof of funds letter from the bank and all the other bumff i took today ????
Or just passport and wifey ?
sorry i didnt pop in to M&D coffee i had the mother in law and the wife in toe and they were getting cranky after an hour and three quarters sat in immigration (my fault i didnt realise i needed to take a number screwy)
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Just yourself and passport and a BIG smile.
Take wife for moral support if necessary, but not required.
Did they mention anything about a house visit?
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No mention of house visit no
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No mention of house visit no
You didn't realize you needed a number,I thought only Aussies & Yanks were that fcuking thick!
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No mention of house visit no.
Have a few Leos your on your way. By your report you have an O visa single entry good good for 90 days. Issued for marriage. The last 30 days of any visa you can apply for an extension, this being August 8 would mean your O visa expertise approximately September 9 At this time you are put on a 30 day under consideration time. It is in this 30 day period that KCI will call your wife and confirm an appointment date to interview you. The report back date of October 8 is 30 days after the end of your 90 day O visa expires,do not worry. After the interview they submit all paper work back to Bangkok for approval.As said on October 8 you go back to KCI for your final extension to stay stamp approximate 11 months as your 30 days under consideration counts as 1 month.
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Dave, he was there TODAY. He has already submitted his paperwork and is NOW under consideration.
On the 8Th of October he will return to KCI for the answer.
It will be positive I am sure:)
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No mention of house visit no
You didn't realize you needed a number,I thought only Aussies & Yanks were that fcuking thick!
Just goes to show nookie ... we are all fallible :biggrin:
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Dave, he was there TODAY. He has already submitted his paperwork and is NOW under consideration.
On the 8Th of October he will return to KCI for the answer.
It will be positive I am sure:)
Consideration is only 30 days not 60. That time does not start till approximately September 9. He is technically still on his O visa and will be until September 9. As I said you can submit your paperwork for an extention 30 days before your visa or extension expires. This is what he has down.
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Good point Dave. Well picked up.
So why would KCI put any sort of stamp in his passport?
Would they not have just told him to come back next month?
Maybe he has quoted the wrong report back by day?
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No mention of house visit no
You didn't realize you needed a number,I thought only Aussies & Yanks were that fcuking thick!
Just goes to show nookie ... we are all fallible :biggrin:
Too Bloody true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sounds like he only got a 60 day extension for being married. That is why there was no mention of a home visit.
Ban....you need to investigate this. You have either not applied for a 12 month extension or the Immigration made a mistake with your date. If the former then 30 days before the 8th October you must go back to Immigration with all of the documents and your wife.
What documents did you take to Immigration, and was there any conversation between them and your wife?
There is something you have not been told.
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Good point Dave. Well picked up.
So why would KCI put any sort of stamp in his passport?
Would they not have just told him to come back next month?
Maybe he has quoted the wrong report back by day?
Because they can start conversion on day 60 of his 90 day O visa, That's the law by the police orders. Now he did not have to go into immigration on this past Friday he could of waited till the end of his visa and started the process but by doing as he did was a very smart move as it now is basically a done deal. His interview will be shortly after this date of Sept. 8 and all paper work submitted to Bangkok for approval.
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It was my understanding the the "under consideration" stamp is only 30 days regardless of remaining time on extension of stay. Also does this date not supersede any previous date?
I remember a post by DimpleJoe. He went to get his stamp for a 12 month extension. He was after the "under consideration" date but before his "permission to stay" date.(he went to immigration more than 30 days before extension expired). He was charged overstay as Immigration told him he had to adhere to the last stamp.
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It was my understanding the the "under consideration" stamp is only 30 days regardless of remaining time on extension of stay. Also does this date not supersede any previous date?
I remember a post by DimpleJoe. He went to get his stamp for a 12 month extension. He was after the "under consideration" date but before his "permission to stay" date.(he went to immigration more than 30 days before extension expired). He was charged overstay as Immigration told him he had to adhere to the last stamp.
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That 30 day under consideration is your get out of jail card and supersedes your permission to stay date. there is something DJ is not saying or he did get fcuked.
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That is what I said.
Say he went 33 days before extension of stay expired. Example: he goes today. Permission to stay expires 13th September.
That means he loses 3 days. Consideration date is 10th September.
So he looks at his extension and sees a date.13th September. He goes before that date, let's say 12th September but Immigration say he is late because he is after his "consideration date", 10th September. Fined 1000 baht.
The under consideration should not exceed 30 days. So why have KC give Ban 60 days?
Even more confusing is the post on another thread where Ban confirms that he received his O from Bangkok on the 22nd June.
Sound like he has been given a 60 day extension based on marriage and asked to go back and try again. He needs to get this clarified.
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That is what I said.
Say he went 33 days before extension of stay expired. Example: he goes today. Permission to stay expires 13th September.
That means he loses 3 days. Consideration date is 10th September.
So he looks at his extension and sees a date.13th September. He goes before that date, let's say 12th September but Immigration say he is late because he is after his "consideration date", 10th September. Fined 1000 baht.
The under consideration should not exceed 30 days. So why have KC give Ban 60 days?
Even more confusing is the post on another thread where Ban confirms that he received his O from Bangkok on the 22nd June.
Sound like he has been given a 60 day extension based on marriage and asked to go back and try again. He needs to get this clarified.
No I still say what he has done is normal. I have done this twice myself. BUT he does not supply all the info. And receiving his O visa on or about June 22 reinforces my dates and his statutes.
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An easy solution if ban1216 is willing ......
Scan the stamp or stamps that KCI put in your passport.
Post here and then someone can clarify just what has happened and what you may have to do next.
And just to muddy the waters some more ... Immigration have also been know to give longer and shorter "under consideration" stamps than the standard 30 days.
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Ok to clarify things i recieved my first Non o in june as stated which gave 90 days but i was advised and indeed shown a large notice in cheang wattana stating i should apply for my 12 month extension to stay 30 days before expiry of this non o as my non o expires on the 9th of september i applied for my 12 month extension 30 dys prior to expiry as instructed ,
Ok so my non o expires on the 9th of september and i have been told to report "a few days prior to the 9th of october" presumably to have my passport either stamped or get deported loco
I submitted TM7 and all the documents required to apply for a 12 month extension and paid the 1900 baht fee with a donation to the t fund of the 100 baht change
the stamp reads
KAPCHOENG IMMIGRATION
APPLICATION OF STAY IS UNDER CONSIDERATION OF
THE IMMIGRATION BUREAU APPLICANT MUST
CONTACTTHIS OFFICE AGAIN IN PERSON ON -8 OCT 2013
SIGNED
IMMIGRATION OFFICER
-9 AUG 2013
And yes the stamp really does not have a space between contact and this lol
Oh and Nookie give us a break it was my first visit and i had the mother in law with me yak yak yaking lol
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Clear as mud ban1216 :wacko:
Looks like your good to go though :biggrin:
Why you were given a 60 days under consideration stamp I have no idea.
As Bangkok immigration told you ... " i should apply for my 12 month extension to stay 30 days before expiry of this non o "
I am still wondering about the home visit though.
Next time leave the MIL at home nono
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Already planning the next trip mother in law less lol i assume they give you the duration of your original non o before starting the 30 day period (its the only logical thing i can think off) The german guy who was there when i got there wanted to do his 90 day report early because he was planning to go to vietnam when he was due to report after the immigration officer explained to him that if he leaves the country his 90 days starts again from the day he returns to thailand he then got a little moody and said cant i do anything early in thailand and then proceeded to ask if he could come 2 weeks before he went to vietnam to report loco
i did try and explain in correct English that he had wasted his time and indeed he doesnt need to return and should just go to vietnam and return and start again but not sure he understood me well
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Oh and another chap presented his documents for extension and the immigration officer was looking puzzled when he looked at his bank book as his funds hadnt been in the bank for the required period
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Also, why did he get a Non O on 22nd June and it expires on 9th September?
That is why I felt the dates corresponded to an extension of 60 days. Have KC Immigration buggered up the consideration date? I have never heard of an added 30 days. It wouldn't be the first time they have done an extension for someone and forgot to change the date stamp.( Did the chap in front of you get 60 days) Just hope they put the same date on everything. If not Ban could be facing 30 days overstay.
No mention of a 90 day report either. One must be due.
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Already planning the next trip mother in law less lol i assume they give you the duration of your original non o before starting the 30 day period (its the only logical thing i can think off) The german guy who was there when i got there wanted to do his 90 day report early because he was planning to go to vietnam when he was due to report after the immigration officer explained to him that if he leaves the country his 90 days starts again from the day he returns to thailand he then got a little moody and said cant i do anything early in thailand and then proceeded to ask if he could come 2 weeks before he went to vietnam to report loco
i did try and explain in correct English that he had wasted his time and indeed he doesnt need to return and should just go to vietnam and return and start again but not sure he understood me well
Your extentsion will be tacked on to your 30 day under consideration 30 day=1 month plus 11 months extension= your 1 year extension. Your officialy at this moment still on your 90 day O-visa and wiil be until about Sept 8.
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Im sorry i wasnt clear my Non O from bkk was collected by myself on the 22nd of june but they stamped my passport as admitted on the 8th of june thaat should set the dates straight lol
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90 day report is irrelevant to me at the moment as i only have a 90 day non o hence my visa will expire at the begining of september (which is when my 90 day report would be due ) i will be expecting my first ninety day report to be around about the 9th of november assuming i am granted my 12 month extension that is
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Im sorry i wasnt clear my Non O from bkk was collected by myself on the 22nd of june but they stamped my passport as admitted on the 8th of june thaat should set the dates straight lol
MINOR DETAIL.. buttslap
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90 day report is irrelevant to me at the moment as i only have a 90 day non o hence my visa will expire at the begining of september (which is when my 90 day report would be due ) i will be expecting my first ninety day report to be around about the 9th of november assuming i am granted my 12 month extension that is
If you wait till October 8 to receive your extension your 90 day report date will be around January 7 2014.
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Did you not change a tourist visa to a Non O?
How long have you officially been in the country?
If you were admitted on 8th June then you are due a 90 day report in September.
Still no reasoning as to why KC have given you 60 days consideration. A consideration stamp supersedes all others, as confirmed by Gotlost. It is not consecutive.The fact that the guy in front of you had not seasoned his money, immigration will normally stamp you for 60 days to allow time, sounds a bit coincidental to me.
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Correct i changed my tourist triple entry visa to a non o 90 day visa in bkk in june and was told to apply for 12 month extension 30 days before t expired
i have been here since february the 15th this year
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Also it was the guy next to me so i assume that they maybe used a different stamp but he was given his extension even without seasoning as his thai wife discussed it with the officials and he got the nod and was sent away a happy chappy
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I stand corrected yes it will be around the begining of january i will be reporting
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Im sorry i wasnt clear my Non O from bkk was collected by myself on the 22nd of june but they stamped my passport as admitted on the 8th of june thaat should set the dates straight lol
MINOR DETAIL.. buttslap
On the question of dates, can we hypothesise a bit further:-
I have a Non-Imm 'O' multiple entry valid to 5 July 2014.
I am considering this time round getting an extension.
If I go to Cambodia and return on, say, 5th July 2014 I will get permission to stay until around 3rd October.
Am I right in assuming that as long as I apply for the extension by, say, 3rd September everything should be kosher ?
That way I get 15 months on my Non-Imm 'O' before having to have the extension in place (16 months if I can get a 60 day consideration like ban1216 :)
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Im sorry i wasnt clear my Non O from bkk was collected by myself on the 22nd of june but they stamped my passport as admitted on the 8th of june thaat should set the dates straight lol
MINOR DETAIL.. buttslap
Yes but you or Ban did not or get a 60 day exstention only a 30 day under consideration which is part of your marriage exstention.
On the question of dates, can we hypothesise a bit further:-
I have a Non-Imm 'O' multiple entry valid to 5 July 2014.
I am considering this time round getting an extension.
If I go to Cambodia and return on, say, 5th July 2014 I will get permission to stay until around 3rd October.
Am I right in assuming that as long as I apply for the extension by, say, 3rd September everything should be kosher ?
That way I get 15 months on my Non-Imm 'O' before having to have the extension in place (16 months if I can get a 60 day consideration like ban1216 :)
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GL - can you have a go at answering my question as well.
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The only Kosher thing I have seen in Thailand was the dill pickles I bought at Bangkok last Year.
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From CO-CO
On the question of dates, can we hypothesise a bit further:-
I have a Non-Imm 'O' multiple entry valid to 5 July 2014.
"I am considering this time round getting an extension.
If I go to Cambodia and return on, say, 5th July 2014 I will get permission to stay until around 3rd October.
Am I right in assuming that as long as I apply for the extension by, say, 3rd September everything should be kosher ?
That way I get 15 months on my Non-Imm 'O' before having to have the extension in place (16 months if I can get a 60 day consideration like ban1216 :)"
This is from personal experience dealing with Korat and KCI. You have an O-Multi and the enter by date of July 5, 2014. An O-Multi is good for 12 months but if you exit the country on July 4 and return no later than July 5 you will be given another 90 days which takes you to 15 months.This makes your O-M good till approximately October 4, 2014. 30 days before the end, September 4, you can apply for an extension to stay based on marriage. After presenting all need paper work and wife they will put a stamp in your passport about 2 inchs long and 1 inch tall thats says THAI WIFE, a date that will be approximately November 4 and there will be a special id number by hand on this stamp. When you leave immigration until October 4 you are still on the O-M. On October 5 you are not on a visa but are under the 30 day under consideration rule.Immigration will call your wife not you to set up the interview. After the interview paper work will go to BK. After about 2 weeks have your wife give immigration a call on the status. Remember that handwritten number she will need it. I got my approval back in two weeks. Now you can go get your final. Regardless if 2 weeks or 30 days your 12 month or 1 year extension for marriage starts on October 4 and the permission to stay date will be approximately October 4 2015. As I have laid out nowhere are you getting a 60 day extension.
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From CO-CO
On the question of dates, can we hypothesise a bit further:-
I have a Non-Imm 'O' multiple entry valid to 5 July 2014.
"I am considering this time round getting an extension.
If I go to Cambodia and return on, say, 5th July 2014 I will get permission to stay until around 3rd October.
Am I right in assuming that as long as I apply for the extension by, say, 3rd September everything should be kosher ?
That way I get 15 months on my Non-Imm 'O' before having to have the extension in place (16 months if I can get a 60 day consideration like ban1216 :)"
This is from personal experience dealing with Korat and KCI. You have an O-Multi and the enter by date of July 5, 2014. An O-Multi is good for 12 months but if you exit the country on July 4 and return no later than July 5 you will be given another 90 days which takes you to 15 months.This makes your O-M good till approximately October 4, 2014. 30 days before the end, September 4, you can apply for an extension to stay based on marriage. After presenting all need paper work and wife they will put a stamp in your passport about 2 inchs long and 1 inch tall thats says THAI WIFE, a date that will be approximately November 4 and there will be a special id number by hand on this stamp. When you leave immigration until October 4 you are still on the O-M. On October 5 you are not on a visa but are under the 30 day under consideration rule.Immigration will call your wife not you to set up the interview. After the interview paper work will go to BK. After about 2 weeks have your wife give immigration a call on the status. Remember that handwritten number she will need it. I got my approval back in two weeks. Now you can go get your final. Regardless if 2 weeks or 30 days your 12 month or 1 year extension for marriage starts on October 4 and the permission to stay date will be approximately October 4 2015. As I have laid out nowhere are you getting a 60 day extension.
Yep, got it. Thank you very much.
Just another little what if:-
So I enter on 5th July (getting 90 days) and visit Kap Choeng on 4th September (getting a 30day consideration stamp).
What if I need to go to Cambodia on, say, 10th to 14th September - do I need a re-entry permit because I have permission to stay but no visa.......
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Sorry went back and re read your time frame. Yes would need a single entry.
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Sorry went back and re read your time frame. Yes would need a single entry.
GL - do you mean single re-entry
Just want to make sure we are talking the same language.
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Sorry went back and re read your time frame. Yes would need a single entry.
GL - do you mean single re-entry
Just want to make sure we are talking the same language.
YES..
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Correct i changed my tourist triple entry visa to a non o 90 day visa in bkk in june and was told to apply for 12 month extension 30 days before t expired
i have been here since february the 15th this year
Visa status and extension status has no bearing on 90 day reports. Your last entry date is the starting point. You need to do a 90 day report within 90 days of that date. Your visa is valid until 8th September. That is leave or report date. You are not leaving as you have an extension under consideration so you should report.
I still think it would be wise to contact KC immigration or the English speaking hotline to check. There is a 2000 baht fine for not reporting.
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Correct i changed my tourist triple entry visa to a non o 90 day visa in bkk in june and was told to apply for 12 month extension 30 days before t expired
i have been here since february the 15th this year
Visa status and extension status has no bearing on 90 day reports. Your last entry date is the starting point. You need to do a 90 day report within 90 days of that date. Your visa is valid until 8th September. That is leave or report date. You are not leaving as you have an extension under consideration so you should report.
I still think it would be wise to contact KC immigration or the English speaking hotline to check. There is a 2000 baht fine for not reporting.
That date of September 8 is a report back to KCI to receive his final permission of extension to stay for marriage it is not in itself a leave Thailand date. If there was a hold up of issuing Ban his extension immigration would issue him a further extension of consideration report date. I have seen this happen but normally at KCI and Korat the approval only takes 2 weeks. Also when Ban returns to KCI thay take this as a resorting and you do not adhere to the normal 90 day rule until the final extension is in his passport. Now if Ban does not show up at KCI by Sept 8 and goes over that date then he has a big problem. Lose his application and becomes an overstayor. Overstay is 500 bt per day fine up to 20k max fine
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Correct i changed my tourist triple entry visa to a non o 90 day visa in bkk in june and was told to apply for 12 month extension 30 days before t expired
i have been here since february the 15th this year
Visa status and extension status has no bearing on 90 day reports. Your last entry date is the starting point. You need to do a 90 day report within 90 days of that date. Your visa is valid until 8th September. That is leave or report date. You are not leaving as you have an extension under consideration so you should report.
I still think it would be wise to contact KC immigration or the English speaking hotline to check. There is a 2000 baht fine for not reporting.
Steve, if there is a valid visa surely there is no option to report - only to leave.
I believe in this case ban is covered by the under consideration stamp (to 8th October) which will now supercede any visa or visa entry.
I have to think that he will be called back well before then and his extension will run from 8th September ? Would that not mean that his first report is due early December ? party13
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It is my understanding that Ban is under consideration until 8th October.
The visa becomes invalid on 8th September. That would usually be the leave date. If the under consideration date was 8th September then he would receive his extension on that date AND would do his first 90 day report.
His under consideration date pushes him past living here for ninety days. Why would that exempt him from reporting?
Every ninety days there are to options. Leave Thailand or report to Immigration.
Like I said, it wouldn't hurt to make a phone call.
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It is my understanding that Ban is under consideration until 8th October.
The visa becomes invalid on 8th September. That would usually be the leave date. If the under consideration date was 8th September then he would receive his extension on that date AND would do his first 90 day report.
His under consideration date pushes him past living here for ninety days. Why would that exempt him from reporting?
Every ninety days there are to options. Leave Thailand or report to Immigration.
Like I said, it wouldn't hurt to make a phone call.
Agree - there is nothing to be lost by making a call.
However, I am confused by your statement that there is option to report or leave every 90 days - surely not under a Non-Imm 'O' ??
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It is my understanding that Ban is under consideration until 8th October.
The visa becomes invalid on 8th September. That would usually be the leave date. If the under consideration date was 8th September then he would receive his extension on that date AND would do his first 90 day report.
His under consideration date pushes him past living here for ninety days. Why would that exempt him from reporting?
Every ninety days there are to options. Leave Thailand or report to Immigration.
Like I said, it wouldn't hurt to make a phone call.
Agree - there is nothing to be lost by making a call.
However, I am confused by your statement that there is option to report or leave every 90 days - surely not under a Non-Imm 'O' ??
There is not..and its a single entry 90 day O-visa.
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What I mean is that everyone on a visa has two options. If you don't want to extend then you must leave. If you extend then you must report. When you make that extension you will then make your first 90 day report also.
The confusing point in this scenario is that Ban appears to have been given 60 days consideration. That means that is extension date is 120 days after his last entry.
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What I mean is that everyone on a visa has two options. If you don't want to extend then you must leave. If you extend then you must report. When you make that extension you will then make your first 90 day report also.
The confusing point in this scenario is that Ban appears to have been given 60 days consideration. That means that is extension date is 120 days after his last entry.
The only confusing is with you..Go back an re read my post. THERE NEVER WAS A 60 DAY EXTENSION GIVEN. NO SUCH ANIMAL FOR THIS..
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I really hope this doesn't turn into a pissing contest because I find the information from all parties most useful.
I still think with ban that (for whatever reason he was stamped for consideration until 8th October) the reality will see him called back later this month and will be given a 12 month extension from 8th September (the expiry date of his single entry visa).
His NEXT report date will be around 6th December.
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I really hope this doesn't turn into a pissing contest because I find the information from all parties most useful.
I still think with ban that (for whatever reason he was stamped for consideration until 8th October) the reality will see him called back later this month and will be given a 12 month extension from 8th September (the expiry date of his single entry visa).
His NEXT report date will be around 6th December.
Your correct on the extension taking affect from approximately September 8 but what you don't get is he is still on his O-visa until Sept 8 and they will not be interviewed until he is under the 30 day consideration time frame.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Even with you knuckle heads when its Leo..
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I personally expect a phone call later this month asking me to visit immigration prior to my original Non o expiry date but i am relatively confident in the wording on my stamp in my passport that gives me under consideration until the begining of October and indeed is the last stamp in my passport hence automatically supercedes all previous stamps
I believe that they have just given 30 days under consideration on top of my original date and the immigration officers final words were please come back about 2 days before the 8th of october
Thanks for all the input i hope it will be useful to others later
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I really hope this doesn't turn into a pissing contest because I find the information from all parties most useful.
I still think with ban that (for whatever reason he was stamped for consideration until 8th October) the reality will see him called back later this month and will be given a 12 month extension from 8th September (the expiry date of his single entry visa).
His NEXT report date will be around 6th December.
Your correct on the extension taking affect from approximately September 8 but what you don't get is he is still on his O-visa until Sept 8 and they will not be interviewed until he is under the 30 day consideration time frame.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Even with you knuckle heads when its Leo..
I'm clear.....
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I personally expect a phone call later this month asking me to visit immigration prior to my original Non o expiry date but i am relatively confident in the wording on my stamp in my passport that gives me under consideration until the begining of October and indeed is the last stamp in my passport hence automatically supercedes all previous stamps
I believe that they have just given 30 days under consideration on top of my original date and the immigration officers final words were please come back about 2 days before the 8th of october
Thanks for all the input i hope it will be useful to others later
Thanks Ban. I take back everything I said about you. :D You do learn and pick up quite quick. party4
PS you will not visit them THEY will visit you. swordfight
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they definetly said i need to come see them but i am expecting a call to arrange a home visit and interview anyway
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they definetly said i need to come see them but i am expecting a call to arrange a home visit and interview anyway
That's true. I did not clarify myself. After they come see you give them two weeks then have your wife call them they should have the approval and you can go back to KCI early.
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What I mean is that everyone on a visa has two options. If you don't want to extend then you must leave. If you extend then you must report. When you make that extension you will then make your first 90 day report also.
The confusing point in this scenario is that Ban appears to have been given 60 days consideration. That means that is extension date is 120 days after his last entry.
The only confusing is with you..Go back an re read my post. THERE NEVER WAS A 60 DAY EXTENSION GIVEN. NO SUCH ANIMAL FOR THIS..
No confusion and no pissing contest. I only say what I see.
How many days are there between 8th August and 8th October?
We have all agreed that an under consideration stamp supersedes all others. So in reality Ban is no longer on a visa. His stamp of 8th September has been superseded. He is now here under consideration. Isn't he?
Ban has confirmed the stamp says "under consideration. Come back on 8th October". Not an extension, as I said no such thing, but a consideration. Isn't that correct?
If Ban is to be called back prior to 8th September then the stamp for 8th October must be a mistake, mustn't it?
I have helped many people with issues like this and I have never seen anyone with an extra 30 days. Only ever seen 30 days from date of visit to immigration.
I do hope that capitalisation was a mistake, Especially as you misquoted me.
Thanks
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I think that if Ban doesn't turn up on September the 8th ,he'll get bumped 500 baht a day overstay!!
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I think that if Ban doesn't turn up on September the 8th ,he'll get bumped 500 baht a day overstay!!
September 8th is the end of Bans O-visa Not a report he will not be fined. He then is on his 30 day under consideration. I personally have done this process twice once at Korat and now at KCI
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I think that if Ban doesn't turn up on September the 8th ,he'll get bumped 500 baht a day overstay!!
September 8th is the end of Bans O-visa Not a report he will not be fined. He then is on his 30 day under consideration. I personally have done this process twice once at Korat and now at KCI
I'll stick to what I've already stated!........Toooooooo Many strange happenings at KCI FOR MY LIKING.
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I think that if Ban doesn't turn up on September the 8th ,he'll get bumped 500 baht a day overstay!!
September 8th is the end of Bans O-visa Not a report he will not be fined. He then is on his 30 day under consideration. I personally have done this process twice once at Korat and now at KCI
I'll stick to what I've already stated!........Toooooooo Many strange happenings at KCI FOR MY LIKING.
and Korat ?
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I think that if Ban doesn't turn up on September the 8th ,he'll get bumped 500 baht a day overstay!!
September 8th is the end of Bans O-visa Not a report he will not be fined. He then is on his 30 day under consideration. I personally have done this process twice once at Korat and now at KCI
I'll stick to what I've already stated!........Toooooooo Many strange happenings at KCI FOR MY LIKING.
and Korat ?
Not heard too many strange stories from Korat Imm........KCI was very good BEFORE it closed,excellent 'eye candy' too
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KCI takes its orders from Korat. Eye candy was sent to Nong Khai Immigration last year.
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Would you like her phone number?
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Bragging or complaining ?
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:-\Well i am sat here now waiting for immigration to come (theyre late) but to be fair i was only there on friday
so fingers crossed
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:-\Well i am sat here now waiting for immigration to come (theyre late) but to be fair i was only there on friday
so fingers crossed
At the Salon or did you tell some porkies (http://www.footymadstreams.com/Smileys/default/snorting.gif)
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Ok 2 rather stern looking men arrived at the salon at 6.45pm and they asked where the village is as they will follow us there ,"no problem" said i , "its 30 kms that way give me a few minutes to get my dogs in the car and we will go " at this information there faces dropped and they said its ok theres no need to go there do you have any friends or people who can vouch for you here ? Nok promptly got a couple of friends to bring there Id and blue books over and they asked rudimentary questions from all of us such as .............
do you stay here? answer sometimes if my wife finishes work late yes
do you loke thailand?
how old are you?
where are you from ?
is there a good restaurant here for us to eat at ?
after maybe an hour they left telling me to expect a call in around 2 weeks and if we dont get a call we should contact them ,and off they went
so hopefully all is well they did say to my wife that they have to check everybody because there are so many bogus weddings and businesses about especially with the indian and chinese communitys and all looks in order so fingers crossed i shall be off to get stamped in a few weeks before the september the 8th and the october the 8th stamps in my passport
i did raise the question about the 60 day under consideration stamp but this was just greeted with a large smile ?????????? so im sorry no further information on that yet
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Well done ban - looks like you are nearly there.
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Ban...I made a check for you and 90 days is needed when staying longer than that period regardless of visa status. Your situation is very unusual as an extension will normally be required/ obtained before the 90 day entry/stay has expired.
If Immigration call you before the 8th September then you can do it at the same time. No form needed. They will automatically pin a small sheet inside your passport stating next reporting date.
If not then you may have to make two trips. Hopefully not. Let us know how you get on.
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well luckily for me if i get a call back to KCI BEFORE the 8th of september i shall indeed be inside my alloted 90 day non o visa given to me by cheang wattana so all should indeed be well and the unusual 60 day under consideration stamp wont even come into play and at worst i shall be required to report on or about the 8th of september as my first 90 day report
i think lol
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And hopefully that will be the end of it. TFFT.
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And hopefully that will be the end of it. TFFT.
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And hopefully that will be the end of it. TFFT.
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I totally agree, as when this is all sorted this thread will become a good reference for others who are unsure. The different points of view that have been put forward have enabled many different scenarios to be covered.
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And hopefully that will be the end of it. TFFT.
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I totally agree, as when this is all sorted this thread will become a good reference for others who are unsure. The different points of view that have been put forward have enabled many different scenarios to be covered.
Wonderful.
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I agree. I will be hanging onto this one.
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I agree. I will be hanging onto this one.
ME TOO congrats bravo1 bananadance party6 wtf?
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And hopefully that will be the end of it. TFFT.
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I totally agree, as when this is all sorted this thread will become a good reference for others who are unsure. The different points of view that have been put forward have enabled many different scenarios to be covered.
Agree.
No point getting older if you can't get wiser....
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so what happens next year does the whole process start again ??? will i have more hoops to jump through???? or will it be easier next time ???
only time will tell
i hope others do benifit from this thread later
thanks for all contributors i think everybody did well and nearly completed the thread without toys being thrown out othe pram slapfight