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Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: gaviolit on August 02, 2013, 02:29:51 PM

Title: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: gaviolit on August 02, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
two months ago my wife take 1,000 Baht at Kasikorn atm. Comes home and alert sms say has taken 3,000 baht. Begins the ordeal between the branch and the "customer care" phone calls (pay call). After 2 months we were told that we wanted to steal the money. 2,000 baht??!! They are too poor !!! dried without closing the account. To everyone, be careful with this bank.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: ban1216 on August 02, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Im sorry i dont quite understand what you mean ,i am interested as i have a kasikorn account and would like to know more about your problem here
Are you saying your wife withdrew 1000 bht at the Atm (obviously with a reciept) and that the bank are saying she took 3000 bht ???
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: nookiebear on August 02, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
What did the amount on the receipt say!!! The ATM.S are pretty foolproof............Who is pulling the cottonwool over ones eyes??
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: Somnat on August 02, 2013, 06:57:10 PM
amorenetcafe, can you view that account online?

And whose account is it?
 
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: CO-CO on August 02, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
I don't keep receipts but I do check the screen to see that the correct amount is quoted. The alert sms arrives before you can get the ATM card back in your pocket.

Nothing is infallible but in 31 years in banking I never experienced an ATM giving out the wrong amount (there was one in Skegness in 1973 that starting coughing out the old £10 in a plastic clip (10 x crisp new One'ers).

Unless Mrs Amorenetcafe has a receipt for 1,000 Baht then the withdrawal was for 3,000 Baht.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: erik68 on August 02, 2013, 08:44:41 PM
I heard of one guy that said someone had taking 20-30k a month out of his account every month for a few months and blamed a corrupt bank worker and wanted to close the account .Most knew who was taking the money  ::) ,sometimes love is blind or guys are just so stupid they can't see what's going on. whistle

I have to agree with Nookie  winkboy
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: binnsy on August 03, 2013, 07:44:07 AM
How many people get a receipt everytime they use an ATM?
I for one don't but I do look at the balance.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: binnsy on August 03, 2013, 08:16:20 AM
If the account has a passbook why not update it and you might see one withdrawal for 1000 and another for the missing 2000 Then you will have the answer  moneysmile
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: nookiebear on August 03, 2013, 08:35:01 AM
If the account has a passbook why not update it and you might see one withdrawal for 1000 and another for the missing 2000 Then you will have the answer  moneysmile
I think we already know the answer..............Perhaps the OP would like to order some of the famous 'Grass Paint'.....Shade....Greener Than Grass
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: gaviolit on August 04, 2013, 04:59:01 PM
we withdrew 1000 bht at the Atm, we don t take recipt but sms alert text 3.000 ! we check passbook and ... 3.000 Baht. But in our poket have 1.000 !!!
We contact branch (nang rong) and customare care many time, 2 times a week and after  2 months they say us machine don t have problem and they "suppose" we want steal money.
These is a kasikorn bank, so take care.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: gaviolit on August 04, 2013, 05:17:38 PM
and,
 i m very afraid for poor farang people have a poor life in thailand that they can t belive in his wife. Everyone can think as they wish, but if I posted, it because I saw with my own eyes.
And those who think so, probably had this very sad experience and I'm really upset about it.
For those who read and understand what the post mean, I repeat, attention to Kasikorn Bank, not only because they STOLEN 2,000 baht, but for the poor, indeed offensive service received.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: smoooth2 on August 04, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
Why should we not believe amorenetcafe's story ? He is obviously pretty upset about it ... enough to post his experience.

Banks are not infallible ... ATM's are just machines and not perfect.

I had a similiar experience in Australia 5 years ago. Withdrew $1000 at a shopping centre ATM. Got shortchanged $50

Fortunately a branch of my bank was across the street. I approached the Customer Service guy and explained the situation. I told him there was no way I could prove that I was shortchanged $50, but just thought the bank should be aware that one of their ATM's was perhaps faulty.

He took my receipt and my personal details and returned 5mins later with a $50 note and apologised for the error and explained that although ATM's have several internal security checks, and mistakes were very rare, they DO occasionally play up.

I was HUGELY impressed by this level of service. No fuss, no polygraph, no toothpicks under the fingernails.

Took 10mins. I walked away as a happy customer.

So ... yes ... apparently ATM's can, and do, make mistakes sometimes ... just like any other machine.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: urleft on August 04, 2013, 11:43:43 PM
Almost everything is a computer these days.  An ATM is just another computer. It has serveral 100,000's lines of code, there are errors in that code. It can be caused by programming and logic errors, updated hardware or firmware, or worse issues with base code. 

Base code in Binary, 0 and 1.  Then there is assmenbly language code to covert to binary.  And this assembly language code is used to make HOL (higher order languages).  So the computer (in this case an ATM), has its program code (probably C++), which is based on Assembly Language, and coverts to binary to run the logic gates on the firmware causing hardware actions. 

There are errors in this coding process.  Software Verification Validation is an art.  However, it is checked against a certain machine.  If the machine gets a new updated component, even though the manufacturer says it is exactly the same, it usually isn't.   I have some real horror stories on changing componenets.   

So just because the ATM works correctly, does not mean that it will work at midnight on 28 Feb during a leap year. 

People that do not swear do not work with computers. 
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: nookiebear on August 05, 2013, 08:43:56 AM
I STILL RECKON I HAVE A PRIME CANDIDATE FOR GRASS PAINT
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: SWINDLED on September 23, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
i punched in 10k peso in cebu & got it + kept the atm transaction record.

when i checked my balance, 30k peso had been deducted from my account.

i got reimbursed only because i kept the transaction record.

the philippines citibank teller told me, no transaction record = no refund. punk
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: davu on September 23, 2013, 11:55:39 AM
A small ATM in Buriram gave me my money and didn't give me my card back. Hard luck, said Bangkok Bank, we can't get it back for you. I now no longer have access to my foreign bank account which is a bit of a blow as I emptied my Thai account a few days ago. 1 200.- Bahts available until I get a new card. Presuming our friendly postman , 'Longfingers Somchai' delivers it.
So I learned to get money from a ATM outside bank that is open.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: nookiebear on September 23, 2013, 07:02:10 PM
A small ATM in Buriram gave me my money and didn't give me my card back. Hard luck, said Bangkok Bank, we can't get it back for you. I now no longer have access to my foreign bank account which is a bit of a blow as I emptied my Thai account a few days ago. 1 200.- Bahts available until I get a new card. Presuming our friendly postman , 'Longfingers Somchai' delivers it.
So I learned to get money from a ATM outside bank that is open.
AND your bank at home will post you a new card to Thailand??
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: dundeemk6 on September 23, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Nook : the bank will do that if your official domicile is in Thailand. Banks are obliged to send the new ATM-card and pincode to the persons domicile. I had my domicile in Thailand for some time a few years back and the send everything to me here in Lahansai by registered mail.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: CO-CO on October 06, 2013, 04:33:32 PM
A small ATM in Buriram gave me my money and didn't give me my card back. Hard luck, said Bangkok Bank, we can't get it back for you. I now no longer have access to my foreign bank account which is a bit of a blow as I emptied my Thai account a few days ago. 1 200.- Bahts available until I get a new card. Presuming our friendly postman , 'Longfingers Somchai' delivers it.
So I learned to get money from a ATM outside bank that is open.

A bit late on parade here,  but where is the foreign bank ?

Croc - some UK banks will not post cards to Thailand as it is regarded as a "fraud hotspot".

They have obviously been to Lahansai !  :)
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: davu on October 09, 2013, 03:30:56 PM
mmm... Switzerland, why? Got my card after 8 days.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: Andrew Hicks on October 14, 2013, 04:11:28 PM
A few years ago rural branches of Kasikorn seemed pretty old fashioned but have now upgraded themselves and provide a good modern service.  I would trust their competence highly.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: CO-CO on October 14, 2013, 04:24:59 PM
mmm... Switzerland, why? Got my card after 8 days.

I could have helped out, as I have done with others, had it been the UK.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: CO-CO on October 14, 2013, 04:26:33 PM
A few years ago rural branches of Kasikorn seemed pretty old fashioned but have now upgraded themselves and provide a good modern service.  I would trust their competence highly.


I agree - that has also been my experience.

I cannot say the same for my  dealings with a rural branch of Bangkok Bank
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: erik69 on October 14, 2013, 04:44:10 PM

Nothing is infallible but in 31 years in banking I never experienced an ATM giving out the wrong amount
I was in Bangkok about 6 years ago and went to the ATM at 7/11 in sukhumvit soi 4.
I went to withdraw 10,000 baht but the ATM paid out 19,000 ( a bit skewiff I may add ).I slid the money into my wallet with a big smile on my face thinking to myself 'what a result' :biggrin:
Then two Swedish girls came over to me and asked if the ATM had worked OK for me,they then told me they had tried to take out 10,000 baht but the ATM had only paid then 1000 baht.
I told them it was their lucky day and handed them over 9,000 baht and explained how the ATM had over-paid me
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: Andrew Hicks on October 14, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
Don't you think you should tell us how the two Swedish girls expressed their grateful appreciation to you?  After all you were in Soi 4... they might at least have bought you a Macdonalds.
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: erik69 on October 14, 2013, 05:03:34 PM
they might at least have bought you a Macdonalds.

Macdonalds.......(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/vomit-smiley-015.gif)

No thanks.....my body is a temple Andrew  :biggrin:
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: Andrew Hicks on October 14, 2013, 05:21:48 PM
At which that day you had to worship?
 whistle
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: CO-CO on October 14, 2013, 09:00:42 PM
they might at least have bought you a Macdonalds.

Macdonalds.......(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/vomit-smiley-015.gif)

No thanks.....my body is a temple Andrew  :biggrin:

No, you fat twat - your body is 'shaped' like a temple !  smilenod
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: erik69 on October 14, 2013, 09:57:37 PM
they might at least have bought you a Macdonalds.

Macdonalds.......(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/vomit-smiley-015.gif)

No thanks.....my body is a temple Andrew  :biggrin:

No, you fat twat - your body is 'shaped' like a temple !  smilenod

85kilos   knuppel2
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: nookiebear on October 15, 2013, 06:33:36 AM
they might at least have bought you a Macdonalds.

Macdonalds.......(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/vomit-smiley-015.gif)

No thanks.....my body is a temple Andrew  :biggrin:

No, you fat twat - your body is 'shaped' like a temple !  smilenod

185kilos   knuppel2
Bloody Hell ,someone who is a lit bit heavier than CoCo
Title: Re: bad experience with Kasikorn bank
Post by: Mitch Iwichiwa on October 31, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
I once punched in a 5,000 baht withdrawal at a Krung Thai Bank ATM inside a Tesco Lotus store in another province but received only three or four thousand baht in cash (it was years ago).  I went to the Lotus customer service counter, who said it had happened before with that machine.  They called KTB for me and my account was credited by the bank.  In this light, never go ahead with an ATM withdrawal if the machine warns you that it is out of paper and cannot issue a receipt.