Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: smoooth2 on July 26, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
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Whilst I acknowledge it's inevitable that expats from different countries will ALWAYS have differences of opinion, it bothers me a lot that SO many topics get completely derailed into slanging matches.
I think many bickering members have missed the point of why we are all in Thailand.
The meaning of "expats" is a person who voluntarily resides in a foreign country with a different culture to their upbringing.
For WHATEVER reason, we have ALL chosen to desert the sinking ship (aka...our home country), and all jump into the same lifeboat and row to The Land of Milk and Honey to live.
This puts us all together in Thailand. In my eyes, this means that some part of our heart has said "bugger the old country ... too hard ... too expensive ... too many problems ... too many ugly women ... I think I'll give Thailand a go"
This should mean that we try to assimilate into the Thai lifestyle and culture, and become good Thai citizens. We have made the big decision to abandon our home country, so we really should also leave our Nationalistic differences behind.
(This is what we expect immigrants into our "home" countries to do)
We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities.
Pity our hearts can't do the same thing and all get along together.
When Thai's ask me "where you come from ...?" I say "Buriram"
I suspect many members would instantly say their "home" country.
Yes ... healthy debate on the Forum is good ... but regrettably much of it is spiteful Nationalistic mudslinging. Gives me the shits.
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Good on yer smooth 2. Well done for saying what others are thinking
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Great post Smoooth2. I come from Buriram too.
Unfortunately we have a couple of sad inadequate "special needs" members who delight in creating unpleasantness.
This gives an insight into their motivation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
They are best ignored if possible.
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bravo1
I consider BE site to be one of my best resources for when I move to Buriram. I really appreciate that aspect of the site. I look forward to the day I can have as many of the fellas (and their friends) over to my home for a cold one or two!
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I could probably do that if it wasn't for the Europeans, Asians, Aussies, Africans, and others that don't think the same way I do.
tonguebar2
Cheers Y'all, glad to have you around, even Nookie. buriramsmiley However, I am not sure about Antonio. party12
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In any group of different people there will be some bickering, and some dumb comments will always be a magnet for punishing comments..... Such is life...the forum is also a good tool for local knowledge and experience, just because we are farang doesn't mean we will all get along and play nice it's Buriram not Nirvana party15
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I disagree to a certain extent. I'm not sure that anything is really personal to the individual or nationality. Most discussions are about how certain events are progressing or have concluded, albeit in certain countries. If this forum had a wider audience then bickering would still happen in a different way.
There would be Republican v Democrat for the Americans, Rudd v Abbott for the Australians and Thatcher (whoop whoop) v The rest of the shite for the Brits.
The only way to stop it would be to treat this forum the same way I would treat a Pub. No Politics, Race or religion talk.
Unfortunately that is not going to happen.
Can't we just talk about interesting things like sport.
Aren't basketball and baseball shite??????????? whistle
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Well we have a large gathering of Expats from several countries (even a lad from Turkey) here at Nookies every Sunday afternoon.Why do they keep coming back?? Because of the banter!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whilst I acknowledge it's inevitable that expats from different countries will ALWAYS have differences of opinion, it bothers me a lot that SO many topics get completely derailed into slanging matches.
I think many bickering members have missed the point of why we are all in Thailand.
The meaning of "expats" is a person who voluntarily resides in a foreign country with a different culture to their upbringing.
For WHATEVER reason, we have ALL chosen to desert the sinking ship (aka...our home country), and all jump into the same lifeboat and row to The Land of Milk and Honey to live.
This puts us all together in Thailand. In my eyes, this means that some part of our heart has said "bugger the old country ... too hard ... too expensive ... too many problems ... too many ugly women ... I think I'll give Thailand a go"
This should mean that we try to assimilate into the Thai lifestyle and culture, and become good Thai citizens. We have made the big decision to abandon our home country, so we really should also leave our Nationalistic differences behind.
We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned.
When Thai's ask me "where you come from ...?" I say "Buriram"
I suspect many members would instantly say their "home" country.
I am not Thai and have no desire to become Thai.
I don't come from Buriram i only live in Buriram.
Not having a dig just saying.
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Great post Smoooth2. I come from Buriram too.
I always thought you come from England Dimple joe.
If you do come from Buriram you really should support Buriram United buriram_united buriram_united
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Whilst I acknowledge it's inevitable that expats from different countries will ALWAYS have differences of opinion, it bothers me a lot that SO many topics get completely derailed into slanging matches.
I think many bickering members have missed the point of why we are all in Thailand.
The meaning of "expats" is a person who voluntarily resides in a foreign country with a different culture to their upbringing.
For WHATEVER reason, we have ALL chosen to desert the sinking ship (aka...our home country), and all jump into the same lifeboat and row to The Land of Milk and Honey to live.
This puts us all together in Thailand. In my eyes, this means that some part of our heart has said "bugger the old country ... too hard ... too expensive ... too many problems ... too many ugly women ... I think I'll give Thailand a go"
This should mean that we try to assimilate into the Thai lifestyle and culture, and become good Thai citizens. We have made the big decision to abandon our home country, so we really should also leave our Nationalistic differences behind.
(This is what we expect immigrants into our "home" countries to do)
We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities.
Pity our hearts can't do the same thing and all get along together.
When Thai's ask me "where you come from ...?" I say "Buriram"
I suspect many members would instantly say their "home" country.
Yes ... healthy debate on the Forum is good ... but regrettably much of it is spiteful Nationalistic mudslinging. Gives me the shits.
One minute you say we should be Thai and then you say we are "Farang". Well we are Farang. There is no wrong in keeping beliefs that we have from another place. I am quite sure that no one really lives the "Thai life" totally.
To be honest I think you are imagining things. I have not seen much Nationalistic mud slinging. Much of it gets mis interpreted because one poster has never met another and it is difficult to express intent on a keyboard. One is not sure of the level of intent or humour. (with a "u", bollocks to this American spell check crap) 2guys
At the end of the day I don't care where you come from or what you believe in, as long as you don't try to change me. If I meet some one and I think they are OK then I will have a chat. If I think they are a pr*&k then I won't.
I don't even care what football team you support, although I must draw the line at West Ham. bananadance
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I don't even care what football team you support, although I must draw the line at West Ham. bananadance
There are a lot worse things in life than supporting West Ham,i could support this lot. hahaha
A.F.C WIMBLEDON.
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Quality.
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I don't even care what football team you support, although I must draw the line at West Ham. bananadance
There are a lot worse things in life than supporting West Ham,i could support this lot. hahaha
A.F.C WIMBLEDON.
Nice picture.This one is better though.
Isn't that a picture of Milton Keynes Dons. footballscarf
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No. Is this your scalf?
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Whilst I acknowledge it's inevitable that expats from different countries will ALWAYS have differences of opinion, it bothers me a lot that SO many topics get completely derailed into slanging matches.
I think many bickering members have missed the point of why we are all in Thailand.
The meaning of "expats" is a person who voluntarily resides in a foreign country with a different culture to their upbringing.
For WHATEVER reason, we have ALL chosen to desert the sinking ship (aka...our home country), and all jump into the same lifeboat and row to The Land of Milk and Honey to live.
This puts us all together in Thailand. In my eyes, this means that some part of our heart has said "bugger the old country ... too hard ... too expensive ... too many problems ... too many ugly women ... I think I'll give Thailand a go"
This should mean that we try to assimilate into the Thai lifestyle and culture, and become good Thai citizens. We have made the big decision to abandon our home country, so we really should also leave our Nationalistic differences behind.
(This is what we expect immigrants into our "home" countries to do)
We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities.
Pity our hearts can't do the same thing and all get along together.
When Thai's ask me "where you come from ...?" I say "Buriram"
I suspect many members would instantly say their "home" country.
Yes ... healthy debate on the Forum is good ... but regrettably much of it is spiteful Nationalistic mudslinging. Gives me the shits.
Good post. No matter what the country of origin, people that have decided to pull up roots and live in a foreign country (e.g. Thailand) are a special breed. Like it or not they probably have more in common than many care to admit. Can't we all get along?
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No. Is this your scalf?
This is our business card.
It has been delivered to every major football ground in England. hahaha hahaha
A proud West Ham fan.
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Great post Smoooth2. I come from Buriram too.
I always thought you come from England Dimple joe.
If you do come from Buriram you really should support Buriram United buriram_united buriram_united
Thank you for your advice on where my loyalties should be.
However, I remember that in the Selfridges Jewellery Heist thread reply #7 you said :-
“Yes you can ask it's not a secret,i come from the east end of London”
When you were writing as “Albert” in the Grand Slam thread reply #5 you said :-
“I don't really care who wins as long as it's not England. Come on walesflag”
In the BURIRAM UNITED thread reply # 249 you said :-
“Always nice to meet a fellow Celtic fan”
You have a Celtic FC flag as your Avatar.
Today in reply #16 above, you claim to be “A proud West Ham fan”.
I think one of us is confused don't you?
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Great post Smoooth2. I come from Buriram too.
I always thought you come from England Dimple joe.
If you do come from Buriram you really should support Buriram United buriram_united buriram_united
Thank you for your advice on where my loyalties should be.
However, I remember that in the Selfridges Jewellery Heist thread reply #7 you said :-
“Yes you can ask it's not a secret,i come from the east end of London”
When you were writing as “Albert” in the Grand Slam thread reply #5 you said :-
“I don't really care who wins as long as it's not England. Come on walesflag”
In the BURIRAM UNITED thread reply # 249 you said :-
“Always nice to meet a fellow Celtic fan”
You have a Celtic FC flag as your Avatar.
Today in reply #16 above, you claim to be “A proud West Ham fan”.
I think one of us is confused don't you?
No i am not confused.
Yes i come from the East of London,don't mean i have to like England.
I will support anyone that plays England in any sport.
Yes i support Buriram as my Thai team because i live in Buriram,Celtic as my Scottish team,Barcelona as my Spanish team,and West Ham because i come from the area.
I have never stated that i come from Buriram,but your quote was "Great post Smoooth2. I come from Buriram too"
Which is why i said "I always thought you come from England Dimple Joe"
It was meant as a bit of banter.
Your the one that always seems to want to cause a problem,not me.
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Antonio
The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know) and any body willing to be associated with them is far from being a Hammers fan
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Antonio
The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know) and any body willing to be associated with them is far from being a Hammers fan
So i assume you have evidence to confirm your accusations or are they just opinions.
Your comment=The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know)
Sorry i Don't know what you are trying to imply.
What i do know is i am proud to be a hammers fan. footballscarf
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I generally hesitate when asked where I come from and then mutter something like 'a lot of places'. I really don't feel like explaining all the complicated stuff I have done since leaving school.
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I generally hesitate when asked where I come from and then mutter something like 'a lot of places'. I really don't feel like explaining all the complicated stuff I have done since leaving school.
I proudly answer I am from the United States of America. I did not have a a choice of where I was born, but if I did I would pick the good old USA. Warts and all, still the prettiest gal at the dance.
Don't be a hater.
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Good response Ahab! redman
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I generally hesitate when asked where I come from and then mutter something like 'a lot of places'. I really don't feel like explaining all the complicated stuff I have done since leaving school.
I proudly answer I am from the United States of America. I did not have a a choice of where I was born, but if I did I would pick the good old USA. Warts and all, still the prettiest gal at the dance.
Don't be a hater.
Agreed.
But unfortunately some people change their origins to suit themselves
and hating , sadly, makes them happy. But remember, 'what goes around, comes around''
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hahaha hahaha
I generally hesitate when asked where I come from and then mutter something like 'a lot of places'. I really don't feel like explaining all the complicated stuff I have done since leaving school.
I proudly answer I am from the United States of America. I did not have a a choice of where I was born, but if I did I would pick the good old USA. Warts and all, still the prettiest gal at the dance.
Don't be a hater.
Agreed.
But unfortunately some people change their origins to suit themselves
and hating , sadly, makes them happy. But remember, 'what goes around, comes around''
'what goes around, comes around''
hahaha hahaha
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I generally hesitate when asked where I come from and then mutter something like 'a lot of places'. I really don't feel like explaining all the complicated stuff I have done since leaving school.
I proudly answer I am from the United States of America. I did not have a a choice of where I was born, but if I did I would pick the good old USA. Warts and all, still the prettiest gal at the dance.
Don't be a hater.
Agreed.
But unfortunately some people change their origins to suit themselves
and hating , sadly, makes them happy. But remember, 'what goes around, comes around''
I don't always understand everyone's view point, but I like hearing other opinions and if an argument has merit I will reconsider my opinion. However, it would need to be a persuasive argument.
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No. Is this your scalf?
Steve, SCALF ??
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Antonio
The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know) and any body willing to be associated with them is far from being a Hammers fan
So i assume you have evidence to confirm your accusations or are they just opinions.
Your comment=The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know)
Sorry i Don't know what you are trying to imply.
What i do know is i am proud to be a hammers fan. footballscarf
This is from Wikipedia so it must be right. I am sure WHU are proud of their fans.
ICF were not nearly as 'hard' as the Border City Firm.
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Inter City Firm Inter City Firm logo.jpg
Founding location East London
Years active 1972–Present
Territory East London
Ethnicity Predominantly White English
Criminal activities Football hooliganism, riots, fighting
The Inter City Firm (ICF) is an English football hooligan firm mainly active in the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s, associated with West Ham United and widely regarded as the first properly organised hooligan firm. The name came from the use of InterCity trains used to travel to away games.[1] The ICF was still active in 2009.[2]
Contents
1 Notable associates
2 Calling cards
3 In popular culture
4 References
5 External links
Notable associates
One figure associated with the ICF was Cass Pennant,[3] who wrote on football hooliganism in the 1990s and 2000s. He is the subject of the film Cass, which was released on 1 August 2008.[4] In Congratulations You Have Just Met the ICF, Pennant, a black Londoner, maintains that the ICF was not racist or right-wing.
The main character within the film Rise of the Footsoldier, Carlton Leach is also associated with the ICF. He, along with Pat Tate, Tony Tucker and Craig Rolfe, later started to get involved in the criminal underworld in London. They strayed away from the dangers of football fights, to focus on selling drugs and taxing dealers. Pat, Tony and Craig met a brutal end, when they were murdered in their Range Rover down a farm road in Rettendon, Essex.
Calling cards
The ICF pioneered calling cards that were left on victims.[5] They read "Congratulations, you've just met the ICF." Leeds United Service Crew copied this from the ICF. This became, "Congratulations you've just met the famous ICF," when the ICF were the subject of a Thames Television documentary, Hooligan, which featured ICF members including Cass Pennant.
In popular culture
The ICF were the basis of Alan Clarke's 1988 film, The Firm. Gary Oldman plays Bex Bissell, the leader of the ICC - Inter City Crew. Members of the ICF were used as consultants on the film.[1] The 2005 film Green Street was based on the ICF, but not by name. Instead, the initials GSE (Green Street Elite) were used. The ICF make an appearance in Irvine Welsh's novellas Ecstasy: Three Tales of Chemical Romance. The ICF are also suggested in the 2007 film Green Street 2: Stand Your Ground.
References
^ a b Haley, A.J. (2001). "British Soccer Superhooligans, Emergence and Establishment: 1982-2000". The Sport Journal: (United States Sports Academy) 4. Archived from the original on 2007-06-15. Retrieved 2007-08-08.
^ "How veteran hooligans used the internet to set up bloody battle". www.dailymail.co.uk. 27 August 2009. Retrieved 16 September 2011.
^ "Cass Pennant Author & Hooliologist". casspennant.com. Retrieved 2008-06-20.
^ "Cass". Internet Movie Database. Retrieved 2008-06-20.
^ "Violence at West Ham is proof that hooliganism has never gone away". www.timesonline.co.uk. Retrieved 2011-02-02.
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Antonio
The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know) and any body willing to be associated with them is far from being a Hammers fan
So i assume you have evidence to confirm your accusations or are they just opinions.
Your comment=The Inter City Firm (I.C.F.) were a bunch of hooligans and criminals(as you probably know)
Sorry i Don't know what you are trying to imply.
What i do know is i am proud to be a hammers fan. footballscarf
This is from Wikipedia so it must be right. I am sure WHU are proud of their fans.
ICF were not nearly as 'hard' as the Border City Firm.
Border City Firm=Carlisle United.
hahaha hahaha hahaha
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
NO
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While I agree that banter bewteen nationalities will always happen. What annoys me more is that when you post a sensible request for advice or help there is always someone who sidetracks the post with silly comments. Im all for having a joke but in the right place at the right time Maybe admin should start a new forum post called "NATUONAL BICKER POST"
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
Farang is a white boy only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang
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Whilst I acknowledge it's inevitable that expats from different countries will ALWAYS have differences of opinion, it bothers me a lot that SO many topics get completely derailed into slanging matches.
I think many bickering members have missed the point of why we are all in Thailand.
The meaning of "expats" is a person who voluntarily resides in a foreign country with a different culture to their upbringing.
For WHATEVER reason, we have ALL chosen to desert the sinking ship (aka...our home country), and all jump into the same lifeboat and row to The Land of Milk and Honey to live.
This puts us all together in Thailand. In my eyes, this means that some part of our heart has said "bugger the old country ... too hard ... too expensive ... too many problems ... too many ugly women ... I think I'll give Thailand a go"
This should mean that we try to assimilate into the Thai lifestyle and culture, and become good Thai citizens. We have made the big decision to abandon our home country, so we really should also leave our Nationalistic differences behind.
(This is what we expect immigrants into our "home" countries to do)
We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities.
Pity our hearts can't do the same thing and all get along together.
When Thai's ask me "where you come from ...?" I say "Buriram"
I suspect many members would instantly say their "home" country.
Yes ... healthy debate on the Forum is good ... but regrettably much of it is spiteful Nationalistic mudslinging. Gives me the shits.
Well put.. and well said..
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
NO
According to my missus a chinaman is a " jein" and an African is a "Nigor", only white people are farang.
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Interesting. Been with my wife, Pon, for over 40 years and never had it explained that way.. A farang is a foreigner, a non thai according to her and her family.. If you weren't born and raised in the LOS then you are a farang.. They do have thai names for the different nationalities but, generally, you're either thai or farang.
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Maybe terms and phrases change over time, only forwarding what the Thai wife told me
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Interesting. Been with my wife, Pon, for over 40 years and never had it explained that way.. A farang is a foreigner, a non thai according to her and her family.. If you weren't born and raised in the LOS then you are a farang.. They do have thai names for the different nationalities but, generally, you're either thai or farang.
Thais will not call other Asians "Farang". Chinese, Japanese, Koreans - Thais have specific names for.
White westerner was the general 'rule' suggested to me. -
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Maybe terms and phrases change over time, only forwarding what the Thai wife told me
I think you got it Speros.. Things do change with time.. This is probably one of them
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white caucasian = farang
black skinned people = negor
chinese = jieen
japanese = ipoen
arabs = keg
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When the Portugese first came to Thailand around 400 years ago they brought guava trees with them. The locals promtly called them "dton farang", meaning the tree from the white man. So the fruit was named after the people and not the other way round.
It is thought that the word "farang" comes from the Persian word "farangi" which refers to the Gemanic tribe the Franks that ruled Europe through the middle ages. It is widely regarded that the word does indeed refer to "white" people.
This could also be underlined by other food stuffs that carry the word "farang". Such as potato( man farang). "Man" is the Thai word for tuber. Corriander (pakchi farang) and even chewing gum (mak farang). "Mak" means betel in Thai.
Seeing as it was generally European crusaders that travelled to these parts, introducing new things, it would seem that the word refers to white people. Also look at words used by neighbouring countries. The similarities are there to see.
Words for Asian foreigners, as some people have pointed out, are usually referred to by their country.
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Then I guess the ole girl and I are corrected.. Thanks for the info
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Wow! What a knowledgeable load of Farang. Thanks for all your answers......
Now for the next brain teaser.
Are you Farang if you originate from Turkey (half east and half west).
Pass the Raki and spare the water. I think it's your round............ rolleyesbar
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Nice Winston Churchill quote. But quote correctly... But to answer you question no you would be a keg
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Thanks Speros.
Quote well spotted. Your aside comment...(and not wishing to hijack the bickering portion of this thread).
Good job old Wini never gave his salute in Pattaya.
If you guys/galls really want to take the urea on the basis of national, cultural differences then please return from whence you came...
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
Farang is a white boy only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang
Just because it's on wikipedia, doesn't make it so.....thats just someone's opinion
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It's all opinions
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It's all opinions
Of course...nice to see you agree with me Si
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It's all opinions
Of course...nice to see you agree with me Si
Totally agree Speros.. Have a good time all and enjoy the bickering
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Thanks Speros.
Quote well spotted. Your aside comment...(and not wishing to hijack the bickering portion of this thread).
Good job old Wini never gave his salute in Pattaya.
If you guys/galls really want to take the urea on the basis of national, cultural differences then please return from whence you came...
Thanks for the traveling advise, personally i think it's healthy to have a bit of banter , we all seem to drink together, socialise without any blood drawn party15
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Nancy Astor: “Sir, if you were my husband, I would give you poison.”
Churchill: “If I were your husband I would take it.”
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It's all opinions
Of course...nice to see you agree with me Si
I do often Dave
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
Farang is a white boy only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang
Just because it's on wikipedia, doesn't make it so.....thats just someone's opinion
A well researched opinion. I was actually responsible for some of that Wiki page.
Not so long ago I completed a Diploma and Advanced Diploma in Linguistic and Phonetic studies. One of my assignments was to chooses a word from a foreign language, one that is widely used by other nationalities too, and research its origins.
There is a plethora of information on the internet. The one that really sticks out is the one on Wiki, similar to what I posted on here. The dates all tally and the reasoning seems very plausible.
Having said that, I did say "it is widely believed that....."
It certainly is not derived from the Thai pronunciation of Francais. That would detract from the fact that most neighbouring countries use a similar word for the same meaning.
The question about Turkish nationality.....It would all depend on your appearance. I know a guy from Iran that gets called a "farang" because he has a more Western appearance that Middle Eastern.
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Starman ,you've rendered me ALMOST speechless!
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Starman ,you've rendered me ALMOST speechless!
It wasn't difficult, but I do take that as a compliment and I thank you.
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Smart man our Starman nookie thumbup
I don't think he was having a dig at you when he was wearing this t-shirt last week
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Amazing what you can find on the internet. type1 bravo1
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French Indochina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Indochina
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
Farang is a white boy only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang
Just because it's on wikipedia, doesn't make it so.....thats just someone's opinion
A well researched opinion. I was actually responsible for some of that Wiki page.
Not so long ago I completed a Diploma and Advanced Diploma in Linguistic and Phonetic studies. One of my assignments was to chooses a word from a foreign language, one that is widely used by other nationalities too, and research its origins.
There is a plethora of information on the internet. The one that really sticks out is the one on Wiki, similar to what I posted on here. The dates all tally and the reasoning seems very plausible.
Having said that, I did say "it is widely believed that....."
It certainly is not derived from the Thai pronunciation of Francais. That would detract from the fact that most neighbouring countries use a similar word for the same meaning.
The question about Turkish nationality.....It would all depend on your appearance. I know a guy from Iran that gets called a "farang" because he has a more Western appearance that Middle Eastern.
Apologies if I have offended you Steve....that wasn't my intention....
I was just trying to make a point that just because something is stated on a website doesn't mean that it's true.....
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Smart man our Starman nookie thumbup
I don't think he was having a dig at you when he was wearing this t-shirt last week
He couldn't wear THAT T-shirt even if it was 4 sizes bigger! ;D
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Nice post Smooth2 however........
"We are no longer British or American or Australian or Dutch or Sth African or Norwegian or all the other nationalities I've not mentioned. Even the Thai's know this !! FARANG !! One word describes 300 Nationalities."
Can someone answer. Is a chinese expat regarded as a Farang?
Farang is a white boy only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang
Just because it's on wikipedia, doesn't make it so.....thats just someone's opinion
A well researched opinion. I was actually responsible for some of that Wiki page.
Not so long ago I completed a Diploma and Advanced Diploma in Linguistic and Phonetic studies. One of my assignments was to chooses a word from a foreign language, one that is widely used by other nationalities too, and research its origins.
There is a plethora of information on the internet. The one that really sticks out is the one on Wiki, similar to what I posted on here. The dates all tally and the reasoning seems very plausible.
Having said that, I did say "it is widely believed that....."
It certainly is not derived from the Thai pronunciation of Francais. That would detract from the fact that most neighbouring countries use a similar word for the same meaning.
The question about Turkish nationality.....It would all depend on your appearance. I know a guy from Iran that gets called a "farang" because he has a more Western appearance that Middle Eastern.
Apologies if I have offended you Steve....that wasn't my intention....
I was just trying to make a point that just because something is stated on a website doesn't mean that it's true.....
No problems at all.
I agree that Wiki is not always accurate. Even most educational establishments know this and ban students from citing info from Wiki.
That is one of the reasons that helped with that particular page.
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''I agree that Wiki is not always accurate. Even most educational establishments know this and ban students from citing info from Wiki.''
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More information required.
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A "wiki" is a special kind of application that allows public editing and revising. Wikipedia is the most famous.
There are no set rules by any Internet governing body or watchdog laying out to what degree the public can edit. This means that on some occasions the text may be incorrect or in accurate. It also leads to some subjects being reported with an element of bias by the author.
There is also no ownership with such articles. This is not a blog,a thesis or an article; where authors names, dates of entry, and title have to be published.
It is therefore prohibited by many educational establishments to use such a source for an educational assignment. The main reason being the inaccuracy. The other reason being that in order to use secondary research information one has to cite the source. This must include; name of author, date of publication and name of publication. As Wikipedia is not a publication it can't be used.
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''It is therefore prohibited by many educational establishments to use such a source for an educational assignment''
Examples please.
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Any educational establishments that adhere to the Laws of Plagiarism.
There are many examples of these.
A simple search on the internet will most likely come up with the information you are looking for.
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A "wiki" is a special kind of application that allows public editing and revising. Wikipedia is the most famous.
There are no set rules by any Internet governing body or watchdog laying out to what degree the public can edit. This means that on some occasions the text may be incorrect or in accurate. It also leads to some subjects being reported with an element of bias by the author.
There is also no ownership with such articles. This is not a blog,a thesis or an article; where authors names, dates of entry, and title have to be published.
It is therefore prohibited by many educational establishments to use such a source for an educational assignment. The main reason being the inaccuracy. The other reason being that in order to use secondary research information one has to cite the source. This must include; name of author, date of publication and name of publication. As Wikipedia is not a publication it can't be used.
Interesting read, thanks Stevo.
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Smart man our Starman nookie thumbup
I don't think he was having a dig at you when he was wearing this t-shirt last week
He couldn't wear THAT T-shirt even if it was 4 sizes bigger! ;D
Thankyou for the accolade CoCo
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Any educational establishments that adhere to the Laws of Plagiarism.
There are many examples of these.
A simple search on the internet will most likely come up with the information you are looking for.
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Sorry ,but' my simple search on the internet' did not come up with the information I asked you to provide. Basically the names of the said institutions. As you say' most' and then 'many', I expected to be overwhelmed with lists. Alas it was not to be.
I do admit that I am not as proficient as some in finding information on the internet. Please advise. Thanks in advance.
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Any accredited establishments will have to follow this law.
Search for "accredited universities", for example. There will be many. Anti plagiarism is all part and parcel of accreditation.
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Thank you.
And out of interest, would any educational establishments , in Buriram or Thailand ,have this ban on students from citing info from Wiki?''
And please bare with me, as the reason I ask is that this is the first time I've read or heard anything about a ban on students citing wiki
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You would have to ask youself the question.....Is plagiarism veiwed as an acedemic crime in those places that you mentioned?
That is where the answer to your query lies.
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Wrong thread guys, it's meant to be National bickering either slag off each others country or start a new thread tonguebar2
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You would have to ask youself the question.....Is plagiarism veiwed as an acedemic crime in those places that you mentioned?
That is where the answer to your query lies.
A simple YES OR NO or I DON'T KNOW. would suffice.
Why is it the English can't understand English? ( just for you Speros nowinkbar )
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You would have to ask youself the question.....Is plagiarism veiwed as an acedemic crime in those places that you mentioned?
That is where the answer to your query lies.
Or, does correct spelling really matter in the context of a healthy discussion.
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You would have to ask youself the question.....Is plagiarism veiwed as an acedemic crime in those places that you mentioned?
That is where the answer to your query lies.
A simple YES OR NO or I DON'T KNOW. would suffice.
Why is it the English can't understand English? ( just for you Speros nowinkbar )
Thanks Candy, they are just a pack of numbtys almost as bad as those septics. ohmybar tonguebar2
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You would have to ask youself the question.....Is plagiarism veiwed as an acedemic crime in those places that you mentioned?
That is where the answer to your query lies.
A simple YES OR NO or I DON'T KNOW. would suffice.
Why is it the English can't understand English? ( just for you Speros nowinkbar )
Thanks Candy, they are just a pack of numbtys almost as bad as those septics. ohmybar tonguebar2
Yep, and we are not too good at the cricket either at the moment - oh, wait a minute, that's right, we just WON the Ashes :P redman
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As long as you don't get too attached to them CO-CO.
We have a nice little cabinet to put them back in (AGAIN) later this year :biggrin:
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It is my understanding that the real "ashes" are always kept at the MCC.
Your "Aussie" cabinet has only ever had copies. party3
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Correct Starman :)
But don't tell CO-CO stop1
He will only gloat :wacko:
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Correct Starman :)
But don't tell CO-CO stop1
He will only gloat :wacko:
Gloat..... ?
Moi .... ?
yeahme yeahme yeahme punk thumbup wildman
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It is my understanding that the real "ashes" are always kept at the MCC.
Your "Aussie" cabinet has only ever had copies. party3
Yes it's true, remember the Ashes commemorates the death of English cricket.... The MCC can keep the original yeahme
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American s...OK me...lost in the cricket conversation! Oh well...
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Two great idioms.
Of course the sheep one is my favourite.
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I do apologize everyone. Those should have been in '' idiom of the day'' Wooops.
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American s...OK me...lost in the cricket conversation! Oh well...
DD ,Yanks seem to be lost in many conversation topics!
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Two great idioms.
Of course the sheep one is my favourite.
Personal friend Candy...... ?
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Two great idioms.
Of course the sheep one is my favourite.
Personal friend Candy...... ?
How can anyone have a sheep for a friend co co? Your BAA BAA BAA BAA