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Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ban1216 on June 12, 2013, 11:56:07 AM
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Ok as the heading suggests i am about to install an electric water pump and storage tank from the main supply and was wondering if anybody could assist in a schematic or plan for the installation ie storage tank feeds pump which in turn feeds house or pump from mains to tank and then gravity fed from tank to house or any other viable options ????
thanks in advance
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We have a set up with two pumps that works very well.
The first pump is a deep well pump that lifts water to a 1000 ltr storage tank.
The second pumps water from the storage tank around the house at very good pressure regardless of demand.
The reason i fitted the storage tank and second pump was that the deep well pump alone was
sometimes unable to keep up with demand.
If you want to feed the house by gravity you will have to build a tower to raise your storage tank
high enough to ensure enough pressure.
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The pressure from my well pump is strong enough to blow your knackers off!
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What size bore hole do you have Nookie?
I made the mistake of installing one that was to small a diameter, and at times of high demand
the underground water was not flowing into the bore fast enough to meet demand.
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Thanks for the info but i am not intending to bore a well just utilise the main water supply coming in to the property hence only require the pump to actually increase the flow rate at the taps unless somebody tells me i need my own we ??
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Ok as the heading suggests i am about to install an electric water pump and storage tank from the main supply and was wondering if anybody could assist in a schematic or plan for the installation ie storage tank feeds pump which in turn feeds house or pump from mains to tank and then gravity fed from tank to house or any other viable options ????
thanks in advance
This will work don't forget the float for the the storage tank
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I would also recommend a direct tap off of the city water line before your pump. More than once I used this method to get water when the power was out.
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Good thinking urleft because power cuts do happen quite often here
Well our water pressure has been restored to the same level as it was when i arrived as it had been gradually getting lower and lower to the point that we had to use the trusty bowl and bin shower method !!!!! Now we actually can shaower properly again so maybe a pump will not be required after all
the water authority sent three guys out the same day to check and they dug the pavement up and changed a few pieces of pipe and all is now good (obviously we still have a bloody great hole outside as it would be a lot to expect them to actually reinstate it i suppose lol
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Perhaps I can be of assistance. I own a water pump | tool supply | water filter | water tank business in Buriram. If you come to my location on Highway 2074 and can speak English or Thai, I can send one of my staff at no charge to your home to see what existing water supply you have and then I can make a written plan of how I feel best you can obtain water pressure in your home. The plan will be in Thai and also English. This is offered at no obligation, either I can offer you the best solution, the best equipment at the lowest price in Buriram Province or you can do business elsewhere. I am clear on my installation prices and will guarantee in writing my installations if you also purchase name brand pumps and quality water tank(s) at my store. For over 30 years my family has provided water solutions in Buriram. The Hitachi and the Mitsubishi Water Pump brochures available at most any Buriram Builders Merchants will show a basic schematic for using a water pump and water storage tank, but your individual water supply situation deserves a plan drawn easily by my staff. Even if you already purchased a tank or water pump at a different store, I can help you with your water supply plan. Thank you for your consideration. PiChai
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Thank you for your kind offer but i think maybe a little far out for you to send your staff as i am living in lahan sai my water pressure did improve massively after they came out and dug a hole outside but unfortunately now the same problem has just returned again very very low pressure (wont even come out of the shower head) but this is down to the water authority so i need to get this sorted before i do anything else
Cheers From Roy
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Perhaps I can be of assistance. I own a water pump | tool supply | water filter | water tank business in Buriram. If you come to my location on Highway 2074 and can speak English or Thai, I can send one of my staff at no charge to your home to see what existing water supply you have and then I can make a written plan of how I feel best you can obtain water pressure in your home. The plan will be in Thai and also English. This is offered at no obligation, either I can offer you the best solution, the best equipment at the lowest price in Buriram Province or you can do business elsewhere. I am clear on my installation prices and will guarantee in writing my installations if you also purchase name brand pumps and quality water tank(s) at my store. For over 30 years my family has provided water solutions in Buriram. The Hitachi and the Mitsubishi Water Pump brochures available at most any Buriram Builders Merchants will show a basic schematic for using a water pump and water storage tank, but your individual water supply situation deserves a plan drawn easily by my staff. Even if you already purchased a tank or water pump at a different store, I can help you with your water supply plan. Thank you for your consideration. PiChai
Quick update (bump) on this shop.
My water pump failed over the long weekend. Due to the way I plumbed it in I needed to get another one with the inlet / outlets in exactly the same position as the old one.
I took the old pump in and firstly asked about repairing it (A weld seam split in the base of the reservoir) I was told it could be done and would possibly be OK for sometime. As the pump was already 8 years old I decided to buy a new one.
Ended up with the same brand with the same power rating as the old one. It was the latest model and the BIG surprise was it was CHEAPER than the old one :)
Good shop, great selection, good prices:)
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Perhaps I can be of assistance. I own a water pump | tool supply | water filter | water tank business in Buriram. If you come to my location on Highway 2074 and can speak English or Thai, I can send one of my staff at no charge to your home to see what existing water supply you have and then I can make a written plan of how I feel best you can obtain water pressure in your home. The plan will be in Thai and also English. This is offered at no obligation, either I can offer you the best solution, the best equipment at the lowest price in Buriram Province or you can do business elsewhere. I am clear on my installation prices and will guarantee in writing my installations if you also purchase name brand pumps and quality water tank(s) at my store. For over 30 years my family has provided water solutions in Buriram. The Hitachi and the Mitsubishi Water Pump brochures available at most any Buriram Builders Merchants will show a basic schematic for using a water pump and water storage tank, but your individual water supply situation deserves a plan drawn easily by my staff. Even if you already purchased a tank or water pump at a different store, I can help you with your water supply plan. Thank you for your consideration. PiChai
I, too, am in the Lahan Sai area; and appreciate your offer; like Ban1216, I wouldn't expect your staff to travel all the way to Lahan Sai; but, will remember your name and contact info for future visits to Buriram! Thank you!
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Ok as the heading suggests i am about to install an electric water pump and storage tank from the main supply and was wondering if anybody could assist in a schematic or plan for the installation ie storage tank feeds pump which in turn feeds house or pump from mains to tank and then gravity fed from tank to house or any other viable options ????
thanks in advance
Been over a month; but, perhaps my info may serve others. I set up a similar system; spliced a T-line from city line (just before the tank) to pump outlet line; installed a ball valve on that line, plus a second on the tank-to-pump line to prevent reverse flow. Also, from experience, I install ball valve shutoffs anywhere and everywhere; the more the better for future 'issues'.
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Ok as the heading suggests i am about to install an electric water pump and storage tank from the main supply and was wondering if anybody could assist in a schematic or plan for the installation ie storage tank feeds pump which in turn feeds house or pump from mains to tank and then gravity fed from tank to house or any other viable options ????
thanks in advance
Been over a month; but, perhaps my info may serve others. I set up a similar system; spliced a T-line from city line (just before the tank) to pump outlet line; installed a ball valve on that line, plus a second on the tank-to-pump line to prevent reverse flow. Also, from experience, I install ball valve shutoffs anywhere and everywhere; the more the better for future 'issues'.
Good info on the ball shut off to stop reverse flow Bill.
I did the same a long time ago and it works well.
My neighbor doesn't have a shut off to his underground tank. And as a consequence, during low / no mains pressure, looses a heap of water.
Only upside is that the meter goes in reverse, so no charge for what he looses.
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ban1216 ... here is the solution I think you were searching for in your initial post. Diagram included.
I live 3km W of Muean Buriram bus station on the outskirts of town.
My home has a 1000 litre water tank that feeds the house via a 240v Mitsubishi pump on the outlet side. This gives beaut constant water pressure anywhere in the house.
The 1000 litre tank is filled direct from the mains via mains pressure. Trouble is, the mains pressure is often too low to refill my tank. At best, it occasionally dribbles in overnight, but the reliability was pathetic, and many times my 1000 litre tank almost ran dry, to the point where my neighbours became my best friends for showers !!
The solution was easy in the end. Just after the water meter, I ran a new pipe bypassing the 1000 litre tank, to near the electric pump. Shut a few valves, then turned the pump on, and now it sucks the water direct from the mains and into my 1000 litre tank via a common garden hose.
Does not matter now how low the mains pressure is, as the pumping is sucking. Just got to make sure the meter is spinning furiously, otherwise you could run the pump dry and seize it. If there is water coming through the garden hose, then all is well.
Takes about 1hr to fill 900 litres via this method. When my tank is full, I shut off the garden hose, reopen a few valves, and go back to relying on mains pressure to hopefully refill my tank next time.
I have also fitted nice new plastic guttering around my carport roof, attached a fitting for garden hose and run it direct via gravity into my tank in the carport. You would be amazed how much rainwater comes off your roof and goes to waste.
One decent downpour will add 300-400 litres of clean rainwater into my tank. Little bit of dirt comes off the roof initially, so I connect the hose after first couple minutes of rainfall.
Hope the above has been helpful. Certainly, connecting the pump to suck out of the mains, rather than rely on mains pressure has made all the difference. I now have an assured water supply.
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ban1216 ... here is the solution I think you were searching for in your initial post. Diagram included.
I live 3km W of Muean Buriram bus station on the outskirts of town.
My home has a 1000 litre water tank that feeds the house via a 240v Mitsubishi pump on the outlet side. This gives beaut constant water pressure anywhere in the house.
The 1000 litre tank is filled direct from the mains via mains pressure. Trouble is, the mains pressure is often too low to refill my tank. At best, it occasionally dribbles in overnight, but the reliability was pathetic, and many times my 1000 litre tank almost ran dry, to the point where my neighbours became my best friends for showers !!
The solution was easy in the end. Just after the water meter, I ran a new pipe bypassing the 1000 litre tank, to near the electric pump. Shut a few valves, then turned the pump on, and now it sucks the water direct from the mains and into my 1000 litre tank via a common garden hose.
Does not matter now how low the mains pressure is, as the pumping is sucking. Just got to make sure the meter is spinning furiously, otherwise you could run the pump dry and seize it. If there is water coming through the garden hose, then all is well.
Takes about 1hr to fill 900 litres via this method. When my tank is full, I shut off the garden hose, reopen a few valves, and go back to relying on mains pressure to hopefully refill my tank next time.
I have also fitted nice new plastic guttering around my carport roof, attached a fitting for garden hose and run it direct via gravity into my tank in the carport. You would be amazed how much rainwater comes off your roof and goes to waste.
One decent downpour will add 300-400 litres of clean rainwater into my tank. Little bit of dirt comes off the roof initially, so I connect the hose after first couple minutes of rainfall.
Hope the above has been helpful. Certainly, connecting the pump to suck out of the mains, rather than rely on mains pressure has made all the difference. I now have an assured water supply.
Have read similar solutions in BKK posts; according to those posts, trade off here is your neighbors may be scratching their heads as to why they have zero water pressure at all while you are filling your tank.
As for roof or carport drainage, once the roof is cleaned by the first couple hours of rain, we capture every drop until ALL rainwater tanks are full (approx 50,000 Liters worth). Once settled in tanks, it is completely safe to drink, but some may be used for other purposes.
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Hi BillH52 ... 50000 lt of water storeage is impressive ;D you must have a nice garden ?
Certainly, collecting rainwater off the roof is a fantastic top up, and it does surprise me that so many homes have no gutters to utilise this free resource. My neighbours had a bit of a giggle watching me erect the guttering on my carport. I'm sure they were thinking "weird Aussie guy living next door..."
They regularly have the "red fire truck water tanker" delivering water to their place. No gutters on their roof.
With regards to zero mains pressure for my neighbours whilst I fill my tank ... interesting theory ... but I suppose it depends on how big the mains pipe is outside my house. I assume the mains is always full of water, albeit with very low pressure, so I'm not sure that me drawing 10-15 lt per min for 1hr should make THAT much of a difference.
Surely a mains pipe can cope with that ??
I dunno ... I'm not an hydraulic engineer. Perhaps another member can offer expert info on this matter ?
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Thank you smooth 2 that was just the information i wanted andvery clear