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Title: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 17, 2013, 09:53:13 AM
Well following hard on the heels of the Japanese Airlines,ANA & JAL decisions to ground their fleets of 787's,now at last the American Regulators have taken the bull by the horns & grounded them worldwide......But Boeing are still 'crowing' the plane is safe........Would you fancy flying on one???
I guess BigBus will be the oddman out!!!!

AIRBUS ......AIRBUS.....AIRBUS.....AIRBUS.....AIRBUS...AIRBUS....AIRBUS...AIRBUS
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: pablo on January 17, 2013, 10:59:52 AM
Yeah, Lithium Ion batteries FFS!  (Where do you suppose they're manufactured?)

The B787 is apparently the first aircraft certified for the use of such batteries.  I'm actually surprised that they ever got the "go ahead" to use them, as the FAA has such strict limitations on even the carriage of lithium type cells.

I remember when the first Nickle Cadmium's were introduced (long ago 555), and the birthing problems that were encountered with their initial use in aircraft.  eg. "Memory retention" and "thermal runaway" fires and malfunctions.   Finally got those figured out, tough!  They're also a major pain in the @ss, as far as maintenance goes.

I haven't read the "AD" on the B787 battery, but the requirement to comply could be as simple as a visual and possibly a voltage check, before each flight.  Meanwhile, Boeing is trying to connect the dots and see if these incidence's are connected to a specific supply chain.

Ahhhh...growing pains of a newly introduced technology!

Thankfully, no injuries to passenger's or personnel thus far, and hopefully none in the future.



Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: toffo on January 17, 2013, 11:33:35 AM
Looking like my prediction was correct and they will ban assault rifles in the home which obama looks like he wants to do.. Handguns are ok...  I suppport the use of handguns but not the big x off arnie assault weapons
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: toffo on January 17, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
looks like im needing glasses
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Bigbus on January 22, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
Read this Nookie.....made in  Japan battery.....ANA and Jal having problems with there own country made battery...

Boeing for ever...

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/ntsb-jal-battery-did-not-overcharge-ana-jal-cancel-787-flights-thro?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29&Issue=ATW-04_20130121_ATW-04_614&NL=ATW-04&sfvc4enews=42&YM_RID=songbook45%40gmail.com&YM_MID=1367748
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 23, 2013, 05:38:41 AM
Read this Nookie.....made in  Japan battery.....ANA and Jal having problems with there own country made battery...

Boeing for ever...

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/ntsb-jal-battery-did-not-overcharge-ana-jal-cancel-787-flights-thro?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29&Issue=ATW-04_20130121_ATW-04_614&NL=ATW-04&sfvc4enews=42&YM_RID=songbook45%40gmail.com&YM_MID=1367748
You are somewhat behind with the news....The American people who have stripped down the battery have said it is not the battery which is the problem,they are now investigating the American company that makes the charger.
What about the fuel valves??
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 23, 2013, 05:40:47 AM
Interesting Snippet..........Who made the last commercial airliner to be grounded world-wide???................Can you guess the answer.....Boeing.....the 737-400
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Bigbus on January 23, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Yes maybe a little behind, must be because I work on a Airbus all day yesterday and it takes a few days to get  yourself back to normal....555555...
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Ahab on January 24, 2013, 07:50:30 AM
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/07/navy_seal_minisub_072709w/

The U.S. Navy tried to use lithium ion batteries in a SEAL minisub (see link). The batteries caught fire while recharging the batteries and destroyed the submarine (in port, luckily). The engineers like the lithium ion batteries because of the power density, but the technology does not appear to be mature enough for submarines or airplanes (IMO).
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 28, 2013, 04:58:37 AM
AIR INDIA have just announced they will not be putting the plane into the air again before the 17th February at the earliest.
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 28, 2013, 04:59:42 AM
Production has now been scaled back with numerous lay-offs.......
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on January 28, 2013, 05:01:07 AM
Yes maybe a little behind, must be because I work on a Airbus all day yesterday and it takes a few days to get  yourself back to normal....555555...
BB,Where Airbus are concerned I think you have a mental block!
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Bigbus on February 06, 2013, 02:54:47 AM
Thought you would like this Nookiebear....5555....
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on February 06, 2013, 05:00:45 AM
Nice One BB
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Bigbus on February 08, 2013, 03:03:48 AM
New B787 Dreamliner kit from Lego.....

Batteries not included.......
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on February 08, 2013, 05:13:55 AM
Stands more chance of getting into the air than the real thing!!
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on April 22, 2013, 06:44:23 PM
At Last some light at the end of the tunnel.............Now problems for the latest 737"s!!
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: Admin on April 22, 2013, 07:37:01 PM
Nookie, how about your airplane fleet? Export available?
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on April 23, 2013, 06:52:49 AM
Nookie, how about your airplane fleet? Export available?
My fleet has never been grounded,,,,,flying high everywhere!
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: TBWG on April 27, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
China agrees $8bn Airbus plane deal



China has agreed to buy 60 planes from European firm Airbus, in a deal worth $8bn (£5.2bn) at list prices.

It is the first such deal since the European Union suspended the inclusion of foreign airlines in its controversial Emissions Trading Scheme.

China had voiced its opposition to the scheme, which charges airlines for the carbon they emit.

Last year, Airbus had alleged that China blocked firms from purchasing its planes amid the row over the scheme.

The deal was signed as part of a series of agreements during French President Francois Hollande's two-day visit to China.

It includes an order for 42 Airbus A320 aircraft and 18 A330 planes.

Carbon emissions
The European Union's plans to introduce the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) have been met with a lot of opposition.

The scheme creates permits for carbon emissions. Once an airline exceed its allowance, it has to pay to buy extra permits.

The number of permits is also reduced over time, so that the total CO2 output from airlines in European airspace falls.

The supporters of the scheme say that it acts as an incentive for airlines to pollute less.

However, more than two dozen countries, including China, Russia and the US, have opposed the move, saying it violates international law.

Under pressure from these countries, the European authorities agreed in November to suspend the inclusion of foreign carriers in the scheme for one year.

Fabrice Bregier, chief executive of Airbus, was quoted by the Financial Times as saying that the "agreement shows that China recognises the efforts that Airbus and the EU have made to resolve the [emissions trading scheme] issue and is a step towards 'business as usual'".

TBWG buriram_united sawadi
Title: Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
Post by: nookiebear on April 28, 2013, 12:06:02 PM
787 RETURNS TO REVENUE FLIGHTS