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Buriram Province - General Category => Real Estate, housing, house and land ownership => Topic started by: Speros on November 30, 2012, 09:54:36 PM
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Hi Guys, im going to re roof my girlfriend house, its about a 90-100 sqm bungalow, near Non Din Daeng. does anybody have any ideas on cost of materials, and labor? don't mind paying for a good job, just don't want my legs pulled. any advise appreciated. i will be there by about the 10th December to try to sort it.
Simon
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Far too vague a description.....so many types of roofs......Your biggest problem will be getting ripped off as you are a new farang in the area....You are in a minefield
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thanks Nookie, its that fibro cement tile look a like sheets. i gather it will take 2 guys 2 to 3 days to remove old and replace new, TGF uncle who is a farmer has suggested he does the work for labor costs of 30,000b, and i buy the materials. is that reasonable? its all because current roof has a few leaks.
simon
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Sounds about 10000 over the top.
Just had the village "sala" reroofed. Just over 100sqm for 22000 plus bits.
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Thanks Starman, so the 22,000 was just for the labour? were the materials similar to what im talking about, and if you dont mind how much for that aswell? BTW whats a "Sala"? excuse my ignorance newbie buttslap
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2 guys, working for 2/3 days for 30,000bt. Forget Uncle - he is fleecing you.
Villagers in your area would normally earn around 300bt/day Be generous and give them 500bt, then that's 1000bt/day for 3 days which comes out at 3000bt. 10% of what Uncle has suggested!!!
Fibre/cement roof sheets are around 50bt each. Count how many exist now and work out your likely costs. Screws for holding down each sheet are approx 3bt each.
Your girlfriend would be well aware of labour costs for 3 days. Ask her and see how honest she is with you.
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Generally speaking, roofers will earn alot more. The "sala", which is the shelter type thing in the village, that was extended in our village was built by Thais for Thais. Most of the quotes were the same. All around 22000 for labour.
The tile price is about right.
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All the villagers out my way receive the same daily rate for everything. No reason to think it would be any different in Non Din Dang. Uncle is a farmer -not an experienced roofer. 3000bt is more than enough for 3 days.
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thanks Nookie, its that fibro cement tile look a like sheets. i gather it will take 2 guys 2 to 3 days to remove old and replace new, TGF uncle who is a farmer has suggested he does the work for labor costs of 30,000b, and i buy the materials. is that reasonable? its all because current roof has a few leaks.
simon
That is over 2 months money for a government worker. Me thinks uncle over-estimates his value - or under-estimates the Falang!
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Hi Speros, I'm doing the same job at the moment using the same sheeting for an area 70m sq. Using a 5 man team of locals at 300 Baht a day, The job will be done in 1 day subject to the weather. It sounds like you have been quoted way to high on labour IMHO. The sheeting cost me 13,000 baht and the bolts 1.8 baht a piece.
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thanks everyone for the input, i made one mistake... wasn't Uncle (she talks to fast)..was local builder that wanted 30,000bt, she talked him down to 25,000 Baht...and she is continuing to look for other people and their "quotes".
Hi Speros, I'm doing the same job at the moment using the same sheeting for an area 70m sq. Using a 5 man team of locals at 300 Baht a day, The job will be done in 1 day subject to the weather. It sounds like you have been quoted way to high on labour IMHO. The sheeting cost me 13,000 baht and the bolts 1.8 baht a piece.
at least material is a lot cheaper than i had thought.
thanks again to everyone's input, all most helpful... thumbup
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BTW if anyone knows a tradesman or someone who can do a good job, please feel free to suggest. the house is in a village near Non Din Daeng. thanks
Simon
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Now that rice harvesting is complete there should be a good supply of villagers who could turn their hand to re-roofing. I am sure your gf or members of her family can find 2/3suitable locals
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
Thai Wasadu.
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
Thai Wasadu.
Agree - but there, they vanish when you actually need some assistance.
I liked the approach of one Farang who allegedly walked in said "I would like some assistance - who can speak English? ".
The 20 hovering staff disappeared in a flash...
Another thing; if the staff arrived 2 to a motorcy they would haveroom for 50 more cars to park.
?... AND ANOTHER THING; Does no one have the wit to construct toilets INSIDE the building - or at least closer the entrance.
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I agree Starman ... Thai Wasadu is definately up there as a candidate !! One of the staff said hello to me using my first name yesterday ??? WTF ??? It blew me away, and surprised me bigtime. Probably one of "the family" that I've yet to identify.
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
Too many staff is the reason the shop is empty. IQ, Thai Watsadu and Home Pro all have too many who pounce on you at every turn, asking what you want. I, and I know many others too, just turn round and head for the exit.
Doesn't anyone in these shops understand the customer just wants to browse, and will approach the staff if need be.? Obviously not!
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Its the Thai way. If you want to get rid of them send them off looking for sledge hammer handles. How can all the shops sell hammer heads and no handles?
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or hammers and no nails... getting better now, I found a few things in IQ I couldn't find elsewhere, but I really prefer browsing the stuff myself, I know exactly what I want and the stalker behind me has no idea what is in stock, where it is or what it can be used for.
On the whole the small local Chinese shops seem to have more useful stuff and advice.
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
Thai Wasadu.
Agree - but there, they vanish when you actually need some assistance.
I liked the approach of one Farang who allegedly walked in said "I would like some assistance - who can speak English? ".
The 20 hovering staff disappeared in a flash...
Another thing; if the staff arrived 2 to a motorcy they would haveroom for 50 more cars to park.
?... AND ANOTHER THING; Does no one have the wit to construct toilets INSIDE the building - or at least closer the entrance.
Surely you don't still go there to chat up the Katoey & have a 'dump'
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If you purchase your roofing materials from IQ in Buriram, I'm sure they could release 150 staff to give you a hand !!
Has anyone seen any store ANYWHERE with more staff just hanging around ??
Certainly cannot grizzle about the lack of service !!
Too many staff is the reason the shop is empty. IQ, Thai Watsadu and Home Pro all have too many who pounce on you at every turn, asking what you want. I, and I know many others too, just turn round and head for the exit.
Doesn't anyone in these shops understand the customer just wants to browse, and will approach the staff if need be.? Obviously not!
BUT when you tell them what you want they don't have an effing clue 7 CALL SOMEONE ELSE WHO ALSO DOESN'T HAVE AN EFFING CLUE!!!
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Its the Thai way. If you want to get rid of them send them off looking for sledge hammer handles. How can all the shops sell hammer heads and no handles?
Had a really good chuckle couple of days ago wandering around IQ ... it's a Bunnings thing ... Aussies will understand. Came across your pile of sledge hammer heads Alan !!
Yes ... not a single handle in site. Was very temtped to ask my "shadow" to go look for some ... but could not be bothered.
Bugger me ... 10mins later ... in a far off corner of IQ was a small quantity of handles !! My "shadow" must have been thinking "this farang has been in the Thai sun too long ..." , as I could not contain my mirth !! Laughing at a pile of wooden handles.
They were pretty rough though, and looked like a backyard job. Not nice and pretty from some factory. Can't remember the price.
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Hi guys, went to the village a few weeks ago i held my GF hand to help her negotiate by the end she had taken over and i think did a good job total price for new bluescope steel roof, side boards all around, approx 182sq of materials, Labor, 12 month guarantee on labor, ceiling repairs (from water damage), 2x spirit houses (mum argued the poor man to give for free...she is a hard woman) 42,000THB. posting picture of 1/2 completion.
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Sorry 57,000THB...lol buttslap
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Finished...i don't think i paid too much...i'm happy anyway...looking forward to February in the village...thanks to all those who put in helpful comments. thumbup
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Looks good Speros.
Your original post just said re-roofing with cement sheets - hence our concern at the cost.
In the end you have a superior roofing material + all the extra roofing bits to go with it.
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thanks Nick, yes it originally was going to be cement sheeting...when i got there i saw the Bluescope sheets (BHP company, yes i'm an Aussie)...i like a tin roof...my GF is a nice girl who didn't have the confidence to negotiate well but with a bit of encouragement from me and her Mum..who returned to the village to keep an eye on the builders. GF has done well i think. hopefully i will spend all of February in Buriram Province and will be able to meet some farang from this site.
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thanks Nick, yes it originally was going to be cement sheeting...when i got there i saw the Bluescope sheets (BHP company, yes i'm an Aussie)...i like a tin roof...my GF is a nice girl who didn't have the confidence to negotiate well but with a bit of encouragement from me and her Mum..who returned to the village to keep an eye on the builders. GF has done well i think. hopefully i will spend all of February in Buriram Province and will be able to meet some farang from this site.
Bluescope (BSL) was a BHP (BHP) owned company back when BHP was an Australian company, but not any more. It has a separate listing on the stock market
was the 57000baht including the steel. the steel is lot dearer the the tiles.
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thanks Nick, yes it originally was going to be cement sheeting...when i got there i saw the Bluescope sheets (BHP company, yes i'm an Aussie)...i like a tin roof...my GF is a nice girl who didn't have the confidence to negotiate well but with a bit of encouragement from me and her Mum..who returned to the village to keep an eye on the builders. GF has done well i think. hopefully i will spend all of February in Buriram Province and will be able to meet some farang from this site.
Bluescope (BSL) was a BHP (BHP) owned company back when BHP was an Australian company, but not any more. It has a separate listing on the stock market
was the 57000baht including the steel. the steel is lot dearer the the tiles.
Yes mate everything included, steel, side boards around the house (flashing I think called) labor, and two spirit houses.
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Hi Speros,looks like you and your G/F did a great job.Imagine how much 182 sq.m of steel roof would cost in aus!I am always pleased when I see stories like this,once again,well done.Cheers from another Buriram Aussie.
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looks like the TGF cant stop renovating now...she has put in a cement driveway and is putting on a gate...paying out of the money she saved....when will it stop...lol :o
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looks like the TGF cant stop renovating now...she has put in a cement driveway and is putting on a gate...paying out of the money she saved....when will it stop...lol :o
When will it stop???? My guess it will not. Run out of money? There is always Thai Farmers Bank...she can get loan and you're good for it, right?
Which brings me to a question and I hope I can get some good feedback. My TW wants me to put a new roof on her mom's home because it leaks badly and the wood on the inside of the house is "moldy" she says. She tells me that mom already has a 150,000 baht loan at the bank, and if we send money to pay off the loan, she will take out another loan for 250,000 baht which is what she needs to have the roof and upstairs walls dismantled, wood "prepped and reused" and a new fiber sheet roof put on similar to the photos on here. I am all for the roof, and can see spending 50.000 baht, but 250,000 baht seems out of control. Does anyone have any feedback regarding the plan to dismantle the upper level of this home and rebuild? Is this typical? So far I have held my ground and said NO WAY. Of course she is angry with me now. I told her to do the research and I want to see the documents. I checked with a builder who said he was not interested in the job and could give me no idea of the cost. HELP!
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Dave I went to the local hardware store, and the owner of the store contacted a builder for me who was prepared to quote....was a decent builder, and price.
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Don't forget to think about insulation when you have the roof off.
I agree about IQ and Thaiwatsadu I must say. And Homepro come to that.
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looks like the TGF cant stop renovating now...she has put in a cement driveway and is putting on a gate...paying out of the money she saved....when will it stop...lol :o
When will it stop???? My guess it will not. Run out of money? There is always Thai Farmers Bank...she can get loan and you're good for it, right?
Which brings me to a question and I hope I can get some good feedback. My TW wants me to put a new roof on her mom's home because it leaks badly and the wood on the inside of the house is "moldy" she says. She tells me that mom already has a 150,000 baht loan at the bank, and if we send money to pay off the loan, she will take out another loan for 250,000 baht which is what she needs to have the roof and upstairs walls dismantled, wood "prepped and reused" and a new fiber sheet roof put on similar to the photos on here. I am all for the roof, and can see spending 50.000 baht, but 250,000 baht seems out of control. Does anyone have any feedback regarding the plan to dismantle the upper level of this home and rebuild? Is this typical? So far I have held my ground and said NO WAY. Of course she is angry with me now. I told her to do the research and I want to see the documents. I checked with a builder who said he was not interested in the job and could give me no idea of the cost. HELP!
I think Nookie will have some 'feedback' for you.
He may suggest that you paint the roof green ;)
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Well Ray,there's one born every minute..........FFS you could build a decent new home for 250,000.......Never mind it always seems to take Aussies & Americans longer than others until the 'penny drops'
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Well Ray,there's one born every minute..........FFS you could build a decent new home for 250,000.......Never mind it always seems to take Aussies & Americans longer than others until the 'penny drops'
I would like to think that Deputy David is having a bit of a laugh with us
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Well Ray,there's one born every minute..........FFS you could build a decent new home for 250,000.......Never mind it always seems to take Aussies & Americans longer than others until the 'penny drops'
So true Mr Nookie so true.
If anyone is going to be shafted here it will always be a yank before anyone else. crazydance
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I guess you fellas have been through all this as well. I am seeing the light. The guilt trip is now on..."don't worry about it, Mom says if this causes us problems, she does not need new roof." This is just the way of the world that we have put ourselves into I am afraid. Still though, if I can get a new roof at good price I don't mind doing it for them. I am just a bit concerned about the rebuilding of the second story. Still looking for help with that. Thanks all for the posts.
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Well Ray,there's one born every minute..........FFS you could build a decent new home for 250,000.......Never mind it always seems to take Aussies & Americans longer than others until the 'penny drops'
I would like to think that Deputy David is having a bit of a laugh with us
I would too CoCo........BUT I don't!
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Well Ray,there's one born every minute..........FFS you could build a decent new home for 250,000.......Never mind it always seems to take Aussies & Americans longer than others until the 'penny drops'
I would like to think that Deputy David is having a bit of a laugh with us
I would too CoCo........BUT I don't!
It will all come together, its just a bump in the road right now. We can have a good laugh over a cold beer or two when I come there!
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DeputyDavid, its good of you to help the old people.
Its not such a big deal for us(falangs) but the parents would certainly appreciate a new roof.
Cheers.
:)
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Nookie,did you ever stop to think yanks and aussies might be just as smart but maybe not as tight as Poms! swordfight
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DeputyDavid, its good of you to help the old people.
Its not such a big deal for us(falangs) but the parents would certainly appreciate a new roof.
Cheers.
:)
It is a big deal when you are paying 4 times over the odds for something. You are putting a marker down and exposing the limits of your willingness to spend. Not saying it is happening here but I know have several examples where Farangs have paid over 6m Baht for a 3m Baht house.
Commendable to replace a leaking roof for the in laws - budget max 60,000 Baht. Would a Thai spend 250k on replacing a roof - would they fcuk.
As stevo has said they are plenty of half-decent Thai 'builders' around who could accomplish this task within a sensible budget.
Remember, if a Thai lady can get you to buy 5 buffalo, she will not settle for 1. Buy 1 buffalo and you are setting the controls and limits of your willingness to spend - buy 5 buffalo and you are fcuked forever.
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Nookie,did you ever stop to think yanks and aussies might be just as smart but maybe not as tight as Poms! swordfight
Eric, for goodness sake - get a grip of yourself.... :o ;D
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Hi..Aussies are generally laid back and don't mind helping the battlers.
You give what you get in life.
As for being smarter than the 10 pound Poms..debatable .
A twelve foot piece of galvanized tin for roofing is about 100 baht.
Trying to organize building from another country give no choice or control..
You just have to trust your partner.
Us Aussies are used to people slinging the mud at us..
Sticks and stones..
I am sure Nookie has all sorts for customers with his business.
Have good day to all. party4
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Hi..Aussies are generally laid back and don't mind helping the battlers.
You give what you get in life.
As for being smarter than the 10 pound Poms..debatable .
A twelve foot piece of galvanized tin for roofing is about 100 baht.
Trying to organize building from another country give no choice or control..
You just have to trust your partner.
Us Aussies are used to people slinging the mud at us..
Sticks and stones..
I am sure Nookie has all sorts for customers with his business.
Have good day to all. party4
Don't misunderstand this is not about nationality - Poms have proved themselves more than capable of spunking away excessive amounts of cash on their teeraks. Stupidity does not recognise borders.
Nookie just believes that inherent traits are stronger in septics and Aussies bananadance
I take a slightly different view as we are now probably seeing those 10 Pound Poms turn up in Thailand.
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I think the stupidest thing is to have a relationship with someone, from anywhere, not just here, when both parties lack the language skills to have good communication. Or any communication.
Having a conversation with thai people, in thai is a lot better than most people realize.
They are very honest, in answers, also they ask many questions.
The term "10 pound Poms" came from Australian Government in late 60's -70's charging only 10 quid for the British people to immigrate here.
Not sure if it was per person or per family.
Cheers oldmanwithstick
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DeputyDavid, its good of you to help the old people.
Its not such a big deal for us(falangs) but the parents would certainly appreciate a new roof.
Cheers.
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It is a big deal when you are paying 4 times over the odds for something. You are putting a marker down and exposing the limits of your willingness to spend. Not saying it is happening here but I know have several examples where Farangs have paid over 6m Baht for a 3m Baht house.
Commendable to replace a leaking roof for the in laws - budget max 60,000 Baht. Would a Thai spend 250k on replacing a roof - would they fcuk.
As stevo has said they are plenty of half-decent Thai 'builders' around who could accomplish this task within a sensible budget.
Remember, if a Thai lady can get you to buy 5 buffalo, she will not settle for 1. Buy 1 buffalo and you are setting the controls and limits of your willingness to spend - buy 5 buffalo and you are fcuked forever.
happy3 happy3 happy3
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Nookie,did you ever stop to think yanks and aussies might be just as smart but maybe not as tight as Poms! swordfight
Aussies and Yanks as smart as Poms that's a good one Eric2012,you should have been a stand up comedian. thumbup
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Antonio,when you think about it,many yanks and aussies originally came from Britain in the first place.But they were smart enough to leave before you did bike038
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
A bit slow Singhma .. you are not American, Australian.............or Irish, by any chance ?? ;D
(Just to explain, for your benefit, that is a winking smiley which denotes humour)
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Antonio,when you think about it,many yanks and aussies originally came from Britain in the first place.But they were smart enough to leave before you did bike038
....... and Rolf Harris went the other way.......
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His parents should have stayed in England monkeydancing
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Singhma,Poms need to stick together,they are pxxsweak alone
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
A bit slow Singhma .. you are not American, Australian.............or Irish, by any chance ?? ;D
(Just to explain, for your benefit, that is a winking smiley which denotes humour)
I would of said it was clapping smiley meaning good one you win whistle
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
A bit slow Singhma .. you are not American, Australian.............or Irish, by any chance ?? ;D
(Just to explain, for your benefit, that is a winking smiley which denotes humour)
I would of said it was clapping smiley meaning good one you win whistle
We might be at cross purposes here jonestherice albert antonio was a clapping smiley - mine was the winking smilie.
Think we are both right punk
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
Singhma i was clapping Co-Co reply to your comment.
By buying everything your T/W or T/G wants sets the standard for the future.
If you give everything in the beginning that is the standard they will expect.
Give a little and see how the response is,if it ain't good enough then just walk away,cos it wont get any better.
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
Singhma i was clapping Co-Co reply to your comment.
By buying everything your T/W or T/G wants sets the standard for the future.
If you give everything in the beginning that is the standard they will expect.
Give a little and see how the response is,if it ain't good enough then just walk away,cos it wont get any better.
this advice should be pinned at Suvarnabhumi airport.
It is not being tight, it is being sensible.
Speaking generally, Thais can spend all the money you can throw at them - but their gratitude is not proportionate. You will get no more thanks for 100k than you would for 10k. You won't get any thanks anyway, but that is another matter. :)
Feed your money in slowly and remember the golden rule - what you spend in Thailand, stays in Thailand. A good, rewarding relationship can be established with a step by step approach.
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It appears that many guys here do not have a relationship at all.They seem to have a 100% business deal,nothing more.Some of us are fortunate to have a real relationship,maybe because we treat our Thai partners with respect.But many seem more interested in saving a baht-more to spend on grog to drown your sorrows-You poor Bxxtards.
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I'm a bit disappointed..FFS there needs to be some thicker skin grown, I'm an Aussie I've met Nookie and had a few drinks with him... And had a good time, he starts fishing, and he starts reeling them in. character3
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Hi ..this is going round in circles..
My comments below is how I think any relationship should be ..in my opinion.
I spent many years learning to speak , read, write thai..to me personally it makes a big difference in living in Thailand.
Trust is always built slowly, anywhere same.
It also makes life a lot simpler..
As with any woman, regardless where they come from, communication is very important.
It is the basis of any friendship, both male or female.
Isn't it friendship first, then courtship, during the friendship period, getting to know each other, formulates as to whether
a relationship could be formed.
Without effective communication, how do you know you anything about each other?
Have a good day. :)
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It appears that many guys here do not have a relationship at all.They seem to have a 100% business deal,nothing more.Some of us are fortunate to have a real relationship,maybe because we treat our Thai partners with respect.But many seem more interested in saving a baht-more to spend on grog to drown your sorrows-You poor Bxxtards.
You have completely missed the point,i respect my wife and have a good relationship with her,but i not going to put my hand in my pocket for everything she or the family want,would not have done it in England with my previous wife and will not do it here.
There is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
I wish you well in your real relationship.
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Singhma,you seem to have the right idea.I am a bit annoyed with the attitude some of these guys have towards Thai women.A perfect example was Croc calling his T/W or T/G a JB [jungle bunny]I find this highly offensive.These guys will need more than a thick skin if their T/W finds out what they are being called behind their backs! Communication and respect take precedence over saving money every time in my book.
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Speros,regarding nookie,we both have our different methods of fishing-yet we both seem to get a rather large catch. character3
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How much is a new roof?
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So far,somewhere between 60,000 and 250,000 baht-anymore offers?
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Why would you want a roof Adam?
As a Villa fan surely the sky is the limit. party4
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Oh poor simpled minded Eric ... you don't know the slightest bit of me and my 10 year marriage and my 10 year of living full time with my inlaws ... so if I call my wive sometimes JB it is my prerogative and anyway who are you to deduct JB means junglebunny for me ? You must have had a very poor education if you think so low over other people but I suspect you are rather "new" and then off coiurse you know ERVERYTHING or you just are a troll trying to stir up a hornetsnest.
Good luck in both cases.
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Why would you want a roof Adam?
As a Villa fan surely the sky is the limit. party4
I thought I could buy the old one cheap and use it to block the goal Villa are defending, so we keep a clean sheet for a change.
Is the 2012, when you arrived in Thailand Eric?? welcome1
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Hi Adam,retired and arrived here in 2009.Enjoy a bit of stirring from time to time.Something to keep us old farts awake. party16
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It appears that many guys here do not have a relationship at all.They seem to have a 100% business deal,nothing more.Some of us are fortunate to have a real relationship,maybe because we treat our Thai partners with respect.But many seem more interested in saving a baht-more to spend on grog to drown your sorrows-You poor Bxxtards.
You have completely missed the point,i respect my wife and have a good relationship with her,but i not going to put my hand in my pocket for everything she or the family want,would not have done it in England with my previous wife and will not do it here.
There is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
I wish you well in your real relationship.
I pay my wife a set 10,000 tbh a month and it works just fine, are you qualified to give judgement on others?
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Eric has a good point, my wife doesn't need any more than that you see some Farang wife's who think they are something special because as they say they have stupid farang give a lot money, after that they talk shit only money money money.
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It appears that many guys here do not have a relationship at all.They seem to have a 100% business deal,nothing more.Some of us are fortunate to have a real relationship,maybe because we treat our Thai partners with respect.But many seem more interested in saving a baht-more to spend on grog to drown your sorrows-You poor Bxxtards.
You have completely missed the point,i respect my wife and have a good relationship with her,but i not going to put my hand in my pocket for everything she or the family want,would not have done it in England with my previous wife and will not do it here.
There is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
I wish you well in your real relationship.
I pay my wife a set 10,000 tbh a month and it works just fine, are you qualified to give judgement on others?
Where have i give judgement,i said there is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
Why don't you read the comment before you make yourself look like an idiot.
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I'm a bit disappointed..FFS there needs to be some thicker skin grown, I'm an Aussie I've met Nookie and had a few drinks with him... And had a good time, he starts fishing, and he starts reeling them in. character3
Hello mate,hows it going....When are you back in the jungle?
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Shame I seemed to have missed out on what would appear to have been a monster catch!
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I'm a bit disappointed..FFS there needs to be some thicker skin grown, I'm an Aussie I've met Nookie and had a few drinks with him... And had a good time, he starts fishing, and he starts reeling them in. character3
Hello mate,hows it going....When are you back in the jungle?
Back in Borats country mate Kazakhstan, may be back in a week or so....if I am I'll see you on a Sunday.if confirmed in next couple of days I'll put a steak order in. party4
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It appears that many guys here do not have a relationship at all.They seem to have a 100% business deal,nothing more.Some of us are fortunate to have a real relationship,maybe because we treat our Thai partners with respect.But many seem more interested in saving a baht-more to spend on grog to drown your sorrows-You poor Bxxtards.
You have completely missed the point,i respect my wife and have a good relationship with her,but i not going to put my hand in my pocket for everything she or the family want,would not have done it in England with my previous wife and will not do it here.
There is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
I wish you well in your real relationship.
I pay my wife a set 10,000 tbh a month and it works just fine, are you qualified to give judgement on others?
Where have i give judgement,i said there is no set amount of money to give here only what one can afford.
Why don't you read the comment before you make yourself look like an idiot.
Antonio I am happy you said make yourself look like an idiot as there is a difference between making yourself look like an idiot than behaving or being an idiot 24/7.. Prost Mein Fruend runningdog
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Antonio...I don't understand your reply..
3 images clapping...cut and paste?
What does that mean?
Singhma i was clapping Co-Co reply to your comment.
By buying everything your T/W or T/G wants sets the standard for the future.
If you give everything in the beginning that is the standard they will expect.
Give a little and see how the response is,if it ain't good enough then just walk away,cos it wont get any better.
this advice should be pinned at Suvarnabhumi airport.
It is not being tight, it is being sensible.
Speaking generally, Thais can spend all the money you can throw at them - but their gratitude is not proportionate. You will get no more thanks for 100k than you would for 10k. You won't get any thanks anyway, but that is another matter. :)
Feed your money in slowly and remember the golden rule - what you spend in Thailand, stays in Thailand. A good, rewarding relationship can be established with a step by step approach.
Learned and understood co-co! And I certainly agree!
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Just a quick follow up regarding the roofing job. TW Mom called all the numbers I could find to get a contractor to come do the job she wants done. No one would take it. House is too old. Cost as much to take it down and rebuild. So there we are. We will build a "modern" home later. Thanks for all the insight on this issue.