Buriram Expats

Buriram Province - General Category => Health, Body and Medicine => Topic started by: finnomick on October 19, 2012, 11:25:37 AM

Title: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 19, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
This is only a suggestion right now, but is there a need to have  a section of this forum dedicated for when there is an urgent need for blood and donors ? Maybe the section could be named " Be Positive ". We all know someone who has had an accident so maybe it's not such a bad idea, and it might speed up any future requests if there is an " URGENT NEED OF BLOOD " .

To start the ball rolling, my blood group is B Positive, and my contact phone numbers are 0861533991 or 0812038211. I live approximately 12 kms due south of Prakhon Chai on the way to Ban Kruat.

Does anyone care to join  the group as a possible donor ?
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 19, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
Even better would be to try to get people to donate blood on a regular basis, as many people do in the UK.

Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 19, 2012, 01:27:59 PM
Even better would be to try to get people to donate blood on a regular basis, as many people do in the UK.



My thoughts too Starman. I know people donate blood in Thailand -- you see it on the news, but I wonder if there is a national blood bank and a system of delivery throughout the kingdom should the need arise ( as we have back in the UK ).
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: toffo on October 19, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
A+ is mine and would be happy to donate blood if needed but would not be happy  to donate blood like they do in the uk only to find out if I or any other Falang  needs blood only to be told they don't have any.. Look after your own is my motto..  Should start some blood donation group for falangs who need it urgently just like this mark guy.. Sorry if you think that's selfish but if they can't look after there own ppl then that's there problem..
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on October 20, 2012, 06:13:50 AM
A+ and B+ are 2 of the less common blood groups, whilst O is very common. Despite that, there was an urgent call out for Group O blood from Buriram hospital.  I find it hard to accept that a large provincial hospital, catering for a population of well over 1 million people runs short after using just 5 bags.

Before anyone starts donating blood, I think it's necessary for the hospitals to organise themselves better, and have their own inter-hospital system for moving blood when needed. Only when there is a real shortage should appeals be put out.

Although I am A+, having had jaundice as a child, I am unable to donate.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 20, 2012, 07:23:24 PM
Toffo, I agree with your sentiments. I wasn't proposing our blood, if needed, went anywhere else but just to Buriram Expats who may be in desperate need ( as in Mark's case ). I'd even go further than you by saying if, at some stage in the future you think you may need blood, you'll only get it if you are a Buriram Expat listed donor. Whether this scheme will get off the ground or not depends totally on willing cooperation or apathy depending on ones viewpoint.   
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Alan on October 21, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
I am sorry as I know this will offend but the arrogance and elitist attitudes of some recent posts are at least a 100 years out of date and should have no place here. God knows where you think you are but your very close to assuming yourselves supperior and I am supprised from where it is coming from.

For those that are quick to criticise the hospital's blood reserves, is it fact that they only had 5 bags? or perhaps they may have needed some for another emergency. What is the true situation?

May I suggest all those that want to do something should regularly donate blood to the government hospital for all to use. Should there be an emergency situation and a request put out on this forum for a fellow expat or a Thai, simply go along and donate some more at that time.

Simples!
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 21, 2012, 07:02:26 AM
I am sorry as I know this will offend but the arrogance and elitist attitudes of some recent posts are at least a 100 years out of date and should have no place here. God knows where you think you are but your very close to assuming yourselves supperior and I am supprised from where it is coming from.

For those that are quick to criticise the hospital's blood reserves, is it fact that they only had 5 bags? or perhaps they may have needed some for another emergency. What is the true situation?

May I suggest all those that want to do something should regularly donate blood to the government hospital for all to use. Should there be an emergency situation and a request put out on this forum for a fellow expat or a Thai, simply go along and donate some more at that time.

Simples!

Agreed.

I would just like to point out that there  is a blood bank system in Thailand. It is no the fault of any hospital that blood donation is not "the thing" in Thailand.

Thanks to some people, most probably Thai, Mark did get the blood that he needed. Thanks to them that they  did not stipulate that their blood should only go to local Thais.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Italiantony on October 21, 2012, 07:30:15 AM
I am sorry as I know this will offend but the arrogance and elitist attitudes of some recent posts are at least a 100 years out of date and should have no place here. God knows where you think you are but your very close to assuming yourselves supperior and I am supprised from where it is coming from.

For those that are quick to criticise the hospital's blood reserves, is it fact that they only had 5 bags? or perhaps they may have needed some for another emergency. What is the true situation?

May I suggest all those that want to do something should regularly donate blood to the government hospital for all to use. Should there be an emergency situation and a request put out on this forum for a fellow expat or a Thai, simply go along and donate some more at that time.

Simples!

Agreed.

I would just like to point out that there  is a blood bank system in Thailand. It is no the fault of any hospital that blood donation is not "the thing" in Thailand.

Thanks to some people, most probably Thai, Mark did get the blood that he needed. Thanks to them that they  did not stipulate that their blood should only go to local Thais.
Totally agree with Alan and Starman.
 
As Starman said most of the blood probably comes from Thai people,so it's Ok for the

Farang to use the Thai blood,but not Ok for the Thai people to use the Farang blood.

But the best one was only for Buriram Expats.( at some stage in the future you think

you may need blood, you'll only get it if you area Buriram Expat listed donor)Don't

worry about the little 7 year old who will die if she/he doesn't get blood,just save it

for the Expats.

One word UNBELIEVABLE.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on October 21, 2012, 08:24:23 AM


For those that are quick to criticise the hospital's blood reserves, is it fact that they only had 5 bags? or perhaps they may have needed some for another emergency. What is the true situation?




Whatever the true position (and we are unlikely to be told or find out) I would have thought that if stocks were very low, or even exhausted, the first port of call would have been to neighbouring provincial hospitals, rather than a public appeal, as that would surely have been quicker.

Over the years I have often asked to donate blood, but each time have been rejected.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 21, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
I am sorry as I know this will offend but the arrogance and elitist attitudes of some recent posts are at least a 100 years out of date and should have no place here. God knows where you think you are but your very close to assuming yourselves supperior and I am supprised from where it is coming from.

For those that are quick to criticise the hospital's blood reserves, is it fact that they only had 5 bags? or perhaps they may have needed some for another emergency. What is the true situation?

May I suggest all those that want to do something should regularly donate blood to the government hospital for all to use. Should there be an emergency situation and a request put out on this forum for a fellow expat or a Thai, simply go along and donate some more at that time.

Simples!

Agreed.

I would just like to point out that there  is a blood bank system in Thailand. It is no the fault of any hospital that blood donation is not "the thing" in Thailand.

Thanks to some people, most probably Thai, Mark did get the blood that he needed. Thanks to them that they  did not stipulate that their blood should only go to local Thais.
Totally agree with Alan and Starman.
 
As Starman said most of the blood probably comes from Thai people,so it's Ok for the

Farang to use the Thai blood,but not Ok for the Thai people to use the Farang blood.

But the best one was only for Buriram Expats.( at some stage in the future you think

you may need blood, you'll only get it if you area Buriram Expat listed donor)Don't

worry about the little 7 year old who will die if she/he doesn't get blood,just save it

for the Expats.

One word UNBELIEVABLE.

Not really UNBELIEVABLE because giving blood is a personal choice, and let's face it, the percentage of people who actually donate blood is miniscule. Alan, putting a post out on a forum in the hope that a suitable donor may choose to turn his PC on is rather hit and miss, especially if there is urgency involved. Far better to be able to telephone a listed donor of the needed blood group is a much faster route, hence my original suggestion.

I note that the replies to the arrogant and elitist posters have come from those who choose NOT to list their blood group or phone number, so what does that make them ?

Forget the original idea, I get a pretty good idea who are the ' givers ' and who are the ' takers ' here.

If any of you go to Prakhon Chai hospital to have your blood tested, just look through to the back room to the small white Nobo board and you'll see listed the stock of blood they have.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 21, 2012, 08:56:55 AM
I did not list my group or phone number as I did not agree with your idea. I give my blood for the use of all people.

I am a giver.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Italiantony on October 21, 2012, 09:41:54 AM
I did not list my group or phone number as I did not agree with your idea. I give my blood for the use of all people.

I am a giver.

Thank you.
I also would not give blood if only for the use of certain people ie Expats,i would maybe give blood but it would be for all to use not just Expats.

I also am a giver like Starman.

It's nice to give.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 21, 2012, 09:56:32 AM
I'm glad to see my last post has started to get people motivated......
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Italiantony on October 21, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
I'm glad to see my last post has started to get people motivated......
Really therefore your perception of the word motivation must be different to mine.
I honestly feel no more motivated towards your idea than i did before your last post.
I said i may give for all to use,but never for just Farang alone.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 21, 2012, 11:40:31 AM
Likewise. I have been giving blood since I was 19 years old.The fact that people, and I do mean everyone, need blood at times is motivation enough for me.

Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: toffo on October 21, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Star man did you get my Pm Ref an order?
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 21, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
Reply just sent.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Alan on October 21, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Likewise. I have been giving blood since I was 19 years old.The fact that people, and I do mean everyone, need blood at times is motivation enough for me.



Very commendable Steve. I as most people cannot say they have given so readily. What prompted you to start so young?

I had already made the decission to give blood once I return to Thailand fit and well. Having personally recieved 2 bags of blood after my accident was more than enough motivation and I am very grateful for the people who donate unselfishly in order to help complete strangers.
It occurred that maybe most doners start giving after a situation where they or a loved one requires blood. It truely is a priceless gift that costs nothing! 

Admin, it could be very useful to have hospital blood donation dates and locations posted on this site with regular updates for members whom wish to partake.

 
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: finnomick on October 21, 2012, 01:44:07 PM
OK., I'll admit I went off the rails a bit with my ' farang blood for BE donors only, however, I still think there is a need for willing donors to list their blood group and contact details should an emergency arise. Is that better ?
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 21, 2012, 02:13:22 PM
First time I went was with my Mum. She had been donating for years and I decided to go with her.

The problem with waiting for emergencies is the fact that blood donors may be unable to donate. You may be sick, on medication, just back from a holiday in a country that bans you from donating. There is also a time limit on when you can donate after having received vaccinations.

Not forgetting that one is only allowed to donated every 24 weeks or so.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: CO-CO on October 21, 2012, 08:36:01 PM
OK., I'll admit I went off the rails a bit with my ' farang blood for BE donors only, however, I still think there is a need for willing donors to list their blood group and contact details should an emergency arise. Is that better ?


Don't beat yourself up Mick - you have been closer than most to this tragic accident. It is understandable that emotions will run high and I can see that your intentions are well-meant.
Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: urleft on October 21, 2012, 09:56:41 PM
I have been donating blood for over 30 years in the USA.  Normally the Red Cross Bus come by where I worked and I would donate, but several times the Red Cross called and asked me to go to their building, which I did. 

What are the specific procedures for donating blood?  Is there a Red Cross equivilant in Buriram? 

Title: Re: Blood and blood donors
Post by: Starman on October 22, 2012, 09:11:35 AM
The school where my wife works have a blood donor day about 3 times a term. I will let every one know the dates when I know them.

The school is a large secondary school just outside of Buriram on the Nang Rong road. A big bus comes from Buriram Hospital with all of the nurses, doctors and equipment.

Surely they must go to other schools. Maybe worth a word with large schools near you. Maybe the largest school in each district.