Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => COMMUNITY BLOGS => Topic started by: urleft on June 25, 2012, 08:12:37 PM
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I live in Ban Yang just outside of Buriram, it has been mostly left alone by the Police, but that has changed:
- The Police are targeting internet shops looking for children playing before 2 pm and checking up to date business license.
- They raided a local gambling area yesterday behind a house. Must have had a tip to look there.
- On Sunday they were checking vehicles. Checked me for License, current bike registration, and what I had in the compartment area. All were clean and was let go.
So this may be a follow on to Nookies post about Police being more aggressive. Be careful if you are operating on the fringe, the Cops are looking for additional funds.
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Or maybe they are just doing their job ------------------ arresting lawbreakers :blink:
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Or maybe they are just doing their job ------------------ arresting lawbreakers :blink:
you could be right if they didn't take a payoff and release the guilty party.
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Or maybe they are just doing their job ------------------ arresting lawbreakers :blink:
you could be right if they didn't take a payoff and release the guilty party.
No-where's is perfect,not even the good old U S of A. :P
I've paid far less here in Thailand to the Police than I ever did back in the UK.
£60 ( 3000 Baht ) for parking on a yellow line for 2 minutes,I ask you madbar
So watch out you Drunk Drives,Drug pushers,Burglars,Gamblers and the rest of the scum of our Society or the nasty BiB might catch you biggrin1
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
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Last night about 11 pm the Boys in Brown were back in the Village visiting another internet shop, understand the shop closed for the night afterward. buttslap So far they have visited 4 of the 7 internet shops. knuppel2
There is also a rumor that all shops are subject to a surprise inspection that they are using a licensed operating system. If that comes about most of the internet shops here will have to shut down (unless they find an accomodation with the inspector). stop1
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
They are more likely to earn more than that from the one's that don't go to court ::)
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
Interesting observation Urleft but that depends on the circumstances and exactly who is involved , 4 years ago a very good Swedish friend of mine was riding his motorcycle in broad daylight with a full licence and Insurance when he got rammed from behind by a Thai pickup driver who was pissed out of his skull ,no licence , no insurance , and the pickup although he had owned it for 3 years was not even registered in his name ,the sad part about it that he was the brother of a "big boss" copper ,needless to say it was all brushed "under the carpet" and the swede was offered "big money" with a veiled threat to forget it all ,my friend is now virtually a cabbage due entirely to the head injuries he received and resembles "phantom of the opera" with all the scar tissue on his face plus he cannot walk normally , the money he was promised quite obviously never came ,but good for him he's got a great Thai wife who takes care of his every need , as far as I am concerned "justice" for farangs (unless you are "connected" ) and poor people is a joke due entirely to the massive corruption which exists today by those to are paid to uphold it.
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Last night about 11 pm the Boys in Brown were back in the Village visiting another internet shop, understand the shop closed for the night afterward. buttslap So far they have visited 4 of the 7 internet shops. knuppel2
There is also a rumor that all shops are subject to a surprise inspection that they are using a licensed operating system. If that comes about most of the internet shops here will have to shut down (unless they find an accomodation with the inspector). stop1
They might be doing the same thing as Kalasin smilenod
Illegal Kalasin Internet Cafes
Kalasin provincial Royal Thai Police announce that they have closed several Internet Cafe shops in the province because the establishments were permitting all kinds of underage children to congregate enmasse and were operating at hours outside those they had been given commercial licence for. Mr. Meeseechon Kaewmeesee, age 30, store owner of an internet cafe game shop the police entered, admitted during interrogation that he had been operating the shop without paying any attention to the age of minors in the shop and had not considered in the least that police may become involved. Police representatives told the media covering the case that such establishments must not provide services to minors below the age of fifteen years.
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
Interesting observation Urleft but that depends on the circumstances and exactly who is involved , 4 years ago a very good Swedish friend of mine was riding his motorcycle in broad daylight with a full licence and Insurance when he got rammed from behind by a Thai pickup driver who was pissed out of his skull ,no licence , no insurance , and the pickup although he had owned it for 3 years was not even registered in his name ,the sad part about it that he was the brother of a "big boss" copper ,needless to say it was all brushed "under the carpet" and the swede was offered "big money" with a veiled threat to forget it all ,my friend is now virtually a cabbage due entirely to the head injuries he received and resembles "phantom of the opera" with all the scar tissue on his face plus he cannot walk normally , the money he was promised quite obviously never came ,but good for him he's got a great Thai wife who takes care of his every need , as far as I am concerned "justice" for farangs (unless you are "connected" ) and poor people is a joke due entirely to the massive corruption which exists today by those to are paid to uphold it.
You here of these horror stories.....why didn't your Swedish friends Insurance company sort this all out for him ???
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
Interesting observation Urleft but that depends on the circumstances and exactly who is involved , 4 years ago a very good Swedish friend of mine was riding his motorcycle in broad daylight with a full licence and Insurance when he got rammed from behind by a Thai pickup driver who was pissed out of his skull ,no licence , no insurance , and the pickup although he had owned it for 3 years was not even registered in his name ,the sad part about it that he was the brother of a "big boss" copper ,needless to say it was all brushed "under the carpet" and the swede was offered "big money" with a veiled threat to forget it all ,my friend is now virtually a cabbage due entirely to the head injuries he received and resembles "phantom of the opera" with all the scar tissue on his face plus he cannot walk normally , the money he was promised quite obviously never came ,but good for him he's got a great Thai wife who takes care of his every need , as far as I am concerned "justice" for farangs (unless you are "connected" ) and poor people is a joke due entirely to the massive corruption which exists today by those to are paid to uphold it.
You here of these horror stories.....why didn't your Swedish friends Insurance company sort this all out for him ???
Unfortunately for him He only had the bare minimum Insurance,not sure but I think I think the Thai 's call it polibor? which costs about 350 baht ,which must be similar to our "third party" insurance back in Ukanistan .
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Unfortunately for him He only had the bare minimum Insurance,not sure but I think I think the Thai 's call it polibor? which costs about 350 baht ,which must be similar to our "third party" insurance back in Ukanistan .
Sounds about the same as I have got :blink:
Stories like this make me think about getting a proper quote for some Fully Comp Insurance !!!
Fully Comp can't be much for small motorbike ???
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
Interesting observation Urleft but that depends on the circumstances and exactly who is involved , 4 years ago a very good Swedish friend of mine was riding his motorcycle in broad daylight with a full licence and Insurance when he got rammed from behind by a Thai pickup driver who was pissed out of his skull ,no licence , no insurance , and the pickup although he had owned it for 3 years was not even registered in his name ,the sad part about it that he was the brother of a "big boss" copper ,needless to say it was all brushed "under the carpet" and the swede was offered "big money" with a veiled threat to forget it all ,my friend is now virtually a cabbage due entirely to the head injuries he received and resembles "phantom of the opera" with all the scar tissue on his face plus he cannot walk normally , the money he was promised quite obviously never came ,but good for him he's got a great Thai wife who takes care of his every need , as far as I am concerned "justice" for farangs (unless you are "connected" ) and poor people is a joke due entirely to the massive corruption which exists today by those to are paid to uphold it.
If you don't like the way things are here you will always have the option to leave,it's the way it is stay or leave everyone has the choice.
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If you don't like the way things are here you will always have the option to leave,it's the way it is stay or leave everyone has the choice.
Even though I agree in a way Tommy { yes we all made a choice when we moved here }, your words of wisdom are not a great help to the Swedish guy who got rammed by a drunk and ended up scared and unable to walk properly.
Yes most of us know the way things work out here and even the Thais are starting to get a bit miffed about the two-tier Law system.Hopefully things will change but it would be nice to be able to comment on such issues without the normal moronic comments of " if you don't like it here go home " post's .For some of us Thailand is our home smilenod
Coming back to the OP,the thing is, even when the Police are trying to clean up the area we live in ,like raiding the Computer Shops,Gambling Dens,stopping Drunk Drivers and busting drug dealers all we can comment on is how 'they are on the Make' { yes even me ::) }
Instead maybe we should be thinking 'nice one lads' for setting up that road block and busting the Drunk Drivers and drug dealers that are a menace to our local communities . Things could be worse without them :)
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
They are more likely to earn more than that from the one's that don't go to court ::)
In Korat there is absolutely no chance of' 'a backhander',if your caught you're banged up overnight then its court the next day,,,Same for Thais & Farangs!!,,,,& they are shit hot on Friday,Saturday & Sunday nights anytime after 20-00hrs
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If you don't like the way things are here you will always have the option to leave,it's the way it is stay or leave everyone has the choice.
Even though I agree in a way Tommy { yes we all made a choice when we moved here }, your words of wisdom are not a great help to the Swedish guy who got rammed by a drunk and ended up scared and unable to walk properly.
Yes most of us know the way things work out here and even the Thais are starting to get a bit miffed about the two-tier Law system.Hopefully things will change but it would be nice to be able to comment on such issues without the normal moronic comments of " if you don't like it here go home " post's .For some of us Thailand is our home smilenod
Coming back to the OP,the thing is, even when the Police are trying to clean up the area we live in ,like raiding the Computer Shops,Gambling Dens,stopping Drunk Drivers and busting drug dealers all we can comment on is how 'they are on the Make' { yes even me ::) }
Instead maybe we should be thinking 'nice one lads' for setting up that road block and busting the Drunk Drivers and drug dealers that are a menace to our local communities . Things could be worse without them :)
I forgot to add that my friend's speech is now slurred and some times its difficult to understand him although he speaks (or did) speak perfect English, yeah I have been coming here in Thailand since 89 for long Winter holidays (3 months) with my late wife and have now lived here full time since Nov 03 so in time I've spent about 13years here ,Of course there are many things here that I dislike ,like the racist 2 tier price system , the 90 day reporting which means and 150 km round trip ,which is totally unnecessary as you should only have to report if you change address's , being expected to be a walking loan society ,everything in my fridge is thought of as "theirs" and of course quite a few more , most of them are within my control so its no big deal really,after all its THEIR Country, however one that is beyond my control is the suicidal way they drive or ride their motorcycles ,like if I'm making a blind left hand turn some maniac will be turning right on MY side of the road meaning if I do not brake hard or swerve there would be an "head onner" of course the looks I often get is its my fault ,this I will never get used to , being I was a part time driving instructor of 25 years experience HGV CLASS 1 ,PSV and any vehicle you care to mention ,since coming here I have seen more accidents, many of them very serious as a direct result of their totally maniacal lack of road sense , the driving test here is a joke!, of course even though I dislike it I grudgingly accept it ,otherwise I would go back to UKanistan ,and of course again I have heard the moronic comment of other farangs who come out with the same statement time and time again, when I comment about lack of driving skills here and complete unaccountability when nearly all Thai drivers if they are physically able "flee the scene" of the accident , maybe they would not come out with this nonsense if they them selves had a good friend who was reduced to a cabbage as the result of it , or should I just grow to like it and not complain? , talk is cheap when it does not directly concern you ,maybe others should be aware of this simple fact instead of writing a total crock of shit :)
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
They are more likely to earn more than that from the one's that don't go to court ::)
In Korat there is absolutely no chance of' 'a backhander',if your caught you're banged up overnight then its court the next day,,,Same for Thais & Farangs!!,,,,& they are shit hot on Friday,Saturday & Sunday nights anytime after 20-00hrs
Yeah I have heard the same myself , Do they get banned like they do in UKanistan or are they free to drive again as normal once they have been "weighed in" ?
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
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I would rather have blatant police corruption as in Thailand rather than confication in America.
You can negotiate corruption, but if the "rule of law" is behind them self-rightous or corrupt law enforcement can take it all. Yes you can fight it and win, but it will take years.
Interesting observation Urleft but that depends on the circumstances and exactly who is involved , 4 years ago a very good Swedish friend of mine was riding his motorcycle in broad daylight with a full licence and Insurance when he got rammed from behind by a Thai pickup driver who was pissed out of his skull ,no licence , no insurance , and the pickup although he had owned it for 3 years was not even registered in his name ,the sad part about it that he was the brother of a "big boss" copper ,needless to say it was all brushed "under the carpet" and the swede was offered "big money" with a veiled threat to forget it all ,my friend is now virtually a cabbage due entirely to the head injuries he received and resembles "phantom of the opera" with all the scar tissue on his face plus he cannot walk normally , the money he was promised quite obviously never came ,but good for him he's got a great Thai wife who takes care of his every need , as far as I am concerned "justice" for farangs (unless you are "connected" ) and poor people is a joke due entirely to the massive corruption which exists today by those to are paid to uphold it.
While it may be hard to believe, there is a privilidged class in America also:
On the evening of July 19, 1969, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts (and brother of the assinated President John Kennedy) drove his Oldsmobile off a wooden bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, drowning his passenger, a young campaign worker named Mary Jo Kopechne. The senator left the scene of the accident, did not report it to the police for many hours, and according to some accounts considered concocting an alibi for himself in the interim.
At the time, Kennedy managed to escape severe legal and political consequences for his actions thanks to his family's connections (which helped to contain the inquest and grand jury) and to a nationally televised "Checkers"-like speech broadcast a week after the accident. He remained a US Senator until his death in 2009.
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary :)
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary :)
I was not talking about the driving skills. I was talking about the legal implications.
By the stories I have heard there must be about 100 "big boss" policemen. Either that or the one big boss has about 100 brothers.
I have had 2 accidents in Thailand, both actually in Buriram. Both times I have received full cooperation from all involved.
One accident, ironically, was my fault. I was only penalised the same way as a local would have been.
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary :)
I was not talking about the driving skills. I was talking about the legal implications.
By the stories I have heard there must be about 100 "big boss" policemen. Either that or the one big boss has about 100 brothers.
I have had 2 accidents in Thailand, both actually in Buriram. Both times I have received full cooperation from all involved.
One accident, ironically, was my fault. I was only penalised the same way as a local would have been.
Actually I was writing about Thai driving skills (or the lack of them) and the horrendous accidents that happen daily on roads the length and breadth of Thailand resulting in many deaths and terrible injuries, and any way its no big deal and I do not want to make a court case out of it, but if all it costs is 350 baht or so for a motor cycle for unlimited costs as far as Injuries received , then the company or whatever who is the insurer must be as insane as many of the riders they insure . :D
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I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary
I am constantly amazed that there are not more accidents as there seems to be complete disregard for rules of the road, especially driving the wrong way on a street.
Several years ago one of the 1st times I drove here I was exiting Makro I saw a break in traffic and hit the gas but through shear luck I looked left as a scooter came the wrong way right in front of my car and I was able to stop before hitting them, scared the crap out of me. Now I always check both ways, especially the on 1 way streets.
But I have figured out why there are not more accidents, most driver's expect the other drivers to do something stupid. Whereas in America we expect the other drivers to follow the driving laws.
BTW, understand they have doubled the amount of driver's instruction when applying for your 1st driver's license from 2 to 4 hours.
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Can someone explain why roundabouts are round i presume so we can drive around them YES,so WHY the F do they drive across it and then cut across to take an exit.
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So when u had a crash and it was your fault the police let u go scott free u mean.
Like it ,like it :D :D
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Can someone explain why roundabouts are round i presume so we can drive around them YES,so WHY the F do they drive across it and then cut across to take an exit.
Thought you would have figured that out Hank, it saves precious time ,every second is vital, thats why they are quite prepared to risk an "head onner" in heavy traffic just to gain one vehicle length!! :o
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary :)
I was not talking about the driving skills. I was talking about the legal implications.
By the stories I have heard there must be about 100 "big boss" policemen. Either that or the one big boss has about 100 brothers.
I have had 2 accidents in Thailand, both actually in Buriram. Both times I have received full cooperation from all involved.
One accident, ironically, was my fault. I was only penalised the same way as a local would have been.
Actually I was writing about Thai driving skills (or the lack of them) and the horrendous accidents that happen daily on roads the length and breadth of Thailand resulting in many deaths and terrible injuries, and any way its no big deal and I do not want to make a court case out of it, but if all it costs is 350 baht or so for a motor cycle for unlimited costs as far as Injuries received , then the company or whatever who is the insurer must be as insane as many of the riders they insure . :D
Maybe you should do some more investigation before you slate people.
Por Ror Bor insurance was set up and is part funded by the King of Thailand. He instigated this in order that the poorer population of Thailand could have insurance cover.
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The por ror bor insurance is not even third party. It is injury insurance. They should, and would, stand up for you. This story about the Swedish guys is full of holes I am afraid.
I can only tell you what was told to me by several people including my friend , however the living testament to my story lives about 15 kms from me , there is a very similar story to my friend ,he's a guy called Dieter who has a German Eatery in Prokonchai, the guy is a permanent cripple as the direct result of some Thai maniacs driving as anyone will tell you who knows him, of course its entirely your prerogative if you are personally of the opinion that the standard of Thai driving is Exemplary :)
I was not talking about the driving skills. I was talking about the legal implications.
By the stories I have heard there must be about 100 "big boss" policemen. Either that or the one big boss has about 100 brothers.
I have had 2 accidents in Thailand, both actually in Buriram. Both times I have received full cooperation from all involved.
One accident, ironically, was my fault. I was only penalised the same way as a local would have been.
Actually I was writing about Thai driving skills (or the lack of them) and the horrendous accidents that happen daily on roads the length and breadth of Thailand resulting in many deaths and terrible injuries, and any way its no big deal and I do not want to make a court case out of it, but if all it costs is 350 baht or so for a motor cycle for unlimited costs as far as Injuries received , then the company or whatever who is the insurer must be as insane as many of the riders they insure . :D
Maybe you should do some more investigation before you slate people.
Por Ror Bor insurance was set up and is part funded by the King of Thailand. He instigated this in order that the poorer population of Thailand could have insurance cover.
I'm not slating any one off but it defies logic, if one can get full injury cover whatever the cost of the injurys sustained which even on a motor cycle with 2 people aboard could be truly horrendous for about 350 baht, then something is just not quite right, there has to be a ceiling on how much compensation is paid out ,which may well not be no were near enough .
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
They are more likely to earn more than that from the one's that don't go to court ::)
In Korat there is absolutely no chance of' 'a backhander',if your caught you're banged up overnight then its court the next day,,,Same for Thais & Farangs!!,,,,& they are shit hot on Friday,Saturday & Sunday nights anytime after 20-00hrs
Yeah I have heard the same myself , Do they get banned like they do in UKanistan or are they free to drive again as normal once they have been "weighed in" ?
Free to drive again but if you get caught a 2nd time its 30,000 & or 6 months inside....PLUS they have the right to cancel your visa
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The local talk is that BiB are getting commission of 5k for every drunk driver that goes to court!!
They are more likely to earn more than that from the one's that don't go to court ::)
In Korat there is absolutely no chance of' 'a backhander',if your caught you're banged up overnight then its court the next day,,,Same for Thais & Farangs!!,,,,& they are shit hot on Friday,Saturday & Sunday nights anytime after 20-00hrs
Yeah I have heard the same myself , Do they get banned like they do in UKanistan or are they free to drive again as normal once they have been "weighed in" ?
Free to drive again but if you get caught a 2nd time its 30,000 & or 6 months inside....PLUS they have the right to cancel your visa
Yeah Nookie that's correct ,cos there's a Danish Guy who is a professional "soak" who lives not far from me, he's now on his final warning ,next time he's on a one way flight back to Copenhagen ,when they checked him out last time they actually found traces of blood in his alcohol stream ! :o :D
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The BIB were out in force in Buriram today. The Klong Thom Wednesday market was going on, they had checkpoints going East at each of the major intersections.
Looked like they were just going after Scooters. bike038
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The word is that the BIB are active in our village (Ban Yang) as of 9 pm. Not sure what they are doing. knuppel2
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The BIB were active between the Circle (219) and Soonthonthep Road.
I passed through in a PU with not being stopped, however it looked like the focus was scooters and current regristration.
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The BIB are set up at 219 just north of where 288 ends. Looks like they are just checking for current car regristrations and are not stopping scooters.
They also have a setup at the corner of Bulamduan and Jira road stopping hemeltless scooters on Jira.
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The BIB were out around 1830 today just past the RR tracks north of the Wat Issan temple. They gave me a breath test and waved me on. Luckily I only had 1 beer about 2 hours before.
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Regarding the insurance: When I bought a truck several years ago, (liquidated due to divorce) I had to have what they called CLASS A insurance. Same for "motorcy" but I think the class A for the bike was pretty cheap. Wife (at the time) had to make claim on the Class A for the truck and everything was covered. I just wonder if anyone had any experience as a "non Thai" trying to make claim on Class A insurance. The story above about the guy on the bike with just the liability insurance makes me think.... on that line as well, I have great health insurance for life in the states, does anyone carry insurance that lives - at least most of the time - in Thailand? Sorry for all the questions.
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The BIB were out around 1830 today just past the RR tracks north of the Wat Issan temple. They gave me a breath test and waved me on. Luckily I only had 1 beer about 2 hours before.
Rather early to be out breath testing!