Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: TBWG on June 07, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
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Hull Visa costs.
Just found out a Non-immigrant multi entery O visa now costs 125 quid!
TBWG buriram_united sawadi
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Hull Visa costs.
Just found out a Non-immigrant multi entery O visa now costs 125 quid!
TBWG buriram_united sawadi
Since February.
Good to see you are on the ball David !
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That's me sharp as a sausage!
TBWG buriram_united sawadi
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That's me sharp as a sausage!
TBWG buriram_united sawadi
I bet you think "IQ" is a DIY store in Surin.....................
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I almost don't mind paying the increased amount of £125 because Hull are so efficient.
I posted my new visa application yesterday (Wednesday) and tonight (Thursday) I can see that the Special Delivery return envelope is already with the Post Office for guaranteed delivery on Friday.
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A mate of mine says he got one in Savannakhet a few days back. Was 5000baht. They will only issue for married to a Thai lady though.
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Hi, I too got my multi Non Imm pronto. Posted Wednesday and back Saturday. I have got shot of my business so am not now showing £900 per month ( needed ? ) to get visa. I emptied 'piggy bank' and got £15,000 balance ( as suggested by nice lady at Hull ) for account print out. Got bank to stamp it and was ok for purpose at Hull. I will live off imminent house sale procedes and in two years start modest pension at 60.
Can convert Tourist Visa but more hassle than Non imm 'O ' to 'A'?
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Hi, I too got my multi Non Imm pronto. Posted Wednesday and back Saturday. I have got shot of my business so am not now showing £900 per month ( needed ? ) to get visa. I emptied 'piggy bank' and got £15,000 balance ( as suggested by nice lady at Hull ) for account print out. Got bank to stamp it and was ok for purpose at Hull. I will live off imminent house sale procedes and in two years start modest pension at 60.
Can convert Tourist Visa but more hassle than Non imm 'O ' to 'A'?
Roger, I have never come across an 'A' visa - can you clarify.
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Hi CC, I meant retirement visa. I thought that was called 'O A'. I will go thru the steps to get retirement visa. I believe they now need 800k bht in bank for 3 months instead of 2 for first go. Roger
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Hi CC, I meant retirement visa. I thought that was called 'O A'. I will go thru the steps to get retirement visa. I believe they now need 800k bht in bank for 3 months instead of 2 for first go. Roger
Hi Roger. Without trying to be a boring prat I think it is quite important to understand the terminology. It can be quite confusing when looking at all the visa options and part of de-mystifying it is to understand the different terms. Not trying to be a smart arse but having spent a lot of time trying to help customers at CC, I am just starting to get to grips with things - them immigration go and change things.
What you are now talking about is an EXTENSION. Technically, there is no such thing as a retirement visa.
Typically, one would come to Thailand on a Non-Immigrant 'O' visa allowing us to visit within a 12 month period BUT having to leave the kingdom every 90 days. This visa will have been granted usually on the grounds of marriage (visiting spouse), retirement or an over 50 (with income £900+ p.m.) visiting Thailand.
The Non-Imm O VISA can be converted to a marriage or retirement EXTENSION allowing you to stay in Thailand for 12 months, subject to 90 day address reporting. The requirements for retirement are 800k Baht in the bank or income of 65,000 Baht p.m. (or a mix of both). For marriage the amount in the bank is 400k Baht or income 40k p.m.
Full details here:-
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/doc/temporarystay/policy777-2551_en.pdf
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Hi Roger. Without trying to be a boring prat I think it is quite important to understand the terminology. It can be quite confusing when looking at all the visa options and part of de-mystifying it is to understand the different terms. Not trying to be a smart arse but having spent a lot of time trying to help customers at CC, I am just starting to get to grips with things - them immigration go and change things.
Coco
Don't be so modest (Without trying to be a boring prat) you really don't need to try too hard! whistle
Whilst myself I have difficulty ( Not trying to be a smart arse)! buttslap
TBWG buriram_united sawadi
TBWG
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Hi CC, I meant retirement visa. I thought that was called 'O A'. I will go thru the steps to get retirement visa. I believe they now need 800k bht in bank for 3 months instead of 2 for first go. Roger
An O-A visa is normally gotten in ones home country for retirement in Thailand. It is a two year visa. The first 365 days has a built in reentry permit that allows you to exit and reenter Thailand as many time as you want. The cost of this reentry permit is included in the origanl cost of the application. NOW on the 364 th day of the first year if you exit and come directly back in (this called a border hop) you will be given another permission to stay stamp for another 365 days. You do NOT receive a reentry permit so if you plane on leaving Thailand in this second year you need to go to your Immigration Office and apply for either a single reentry permit which allows you a single exit and reentry cost 1000 baht or a multi reentry permit thats allows you unlimited exit and reentry from Thailandland for the seconded year, cost is 3800 baht . If you exit with out either of these then your OA is void and your back to square one.
When you apply for this visa you need to say and wright OAM the m being multi. The cost should be 5000baht for the visa.
http://www.thaivisa.com/318.0.html
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Thanks David - but I am even more confused. I always thought you had to get the O visa (normally outside the country) and the applied for an "extension". Reading the following suggests that you can go to an "O-A" visa from an "o" visa BUT in Bangkok! Why would you do that when you can go from an "O" visa to an extension in one go ? My head hurts !
This from the Royal Thai embassy in Hull, UK:-
There is only one category of tourist visa, namely Category “TR”
There are various categories of non-immigrant visa including:-
Category “B” (business – paid employment)
Category “ED” (education – unpaid work)
Category “M” (media)
Category “O” (other)
.... and then this:-
Information About Retiring in Thailand
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS PROVIDED ONLY FOR BRITISH NATIONALS LIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
To be eligible to retire in Thailand you must:-
a) be aged 50 years or over.
b) not be prohibited from entering the Kingdom under the Thai Immigration Act BE 2522 (1979).
c) not have a criminal record in your country of nationality or your country of residency or in Thailand. You need
to contact your local UK Police Force and request a “Subject Access Report”. Please be aware it can take up to 40 days for
it to be issued. Furthermore, please note the report must be submitted to the authorities in Thailand within three months of date of issue of the report.
d) not have a medical record of any contagious diseases. You need to obtain a medical report from a hospital in
Thailand. It must not be more than three months old. It must state you have not been infected with any contagious disease in accordance with Thai Immigration Regulation No.14 BE 2535 (1992). The form on page 4/4 is for completion by a doctor in Thailand.
e) be able to support yourself financially. It is necessary to show an income into a Thai bank account of minimum
65,000 baht per month by way of a pension, Investments, etc or a minimum of 800,000 baht in a bank account in Thailand
or a mixture of the two..
f) hold a passport with a minimum of 12 months validity at time of entering Thailand.
Provided you can meet the above requirements, the next process is to apply for a Non-Immigrant category “O” visa. Please visit the “Visas & Downloads” page our website (www.thaiconsul-uk.com) and print the document entitled
“Aba Visa Application Pack”.
When you have received your ”O” visa you need to ensure you have all of the following documents which you must
take with you for presentation at the “Thai Immigration Bureau” in Bangkok (Thai Immigration Bureau, Section 1,
Sub Division 1, Soi Suan Plu, off South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120 - tel: 00 66-22873101-10
Extension 2236) or in the town close to where you will be living in your retirement:-
1) Passport containing your “O” visa, passport to be valid for at least one year from date of entering Thailand.
2) Three “Additional Application Form for Non-Immigrant ‘O-A’ Visa” duly completed and with recent passport
type photograph 4cm x 6cm attached to each one – see page 3/4.
3) Subject Access (police) Report – to be no more than 3 months old when presented in Thailand.
4) Medical Report form – to be completed by a doctor in Thailand – see page 4/4.
5) Evidence to show minimum income of 65,000 baht per month going into a bank account in Thailand or minimum 800,000 baht deposited in a bank account in Thailand (a combination may be accepted).
We advise applicants to visit the Thai Immigration Bureau at the earliest opportunity although
you may be asked to return after having been in Thailand for 60 days
Af 21.09.11
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If your application is approved you will be issued with the non-immigrant category “O-A”
long stay visa by the relevant Thai Immigration Bureau
In the case of wishing to be accompanied by your spouse, the marriage certificate must be presented at the Thai Immigration Bureau. In this case your spouse will be granted a Non–Immigrant “O”, instead of “O-A”, and will be subject to the regulations applying to the “O” visa which includes having to exit Thailand every 90 days. If your spouse wishes to be granted retirement status they must meet all of the requirements as listed above (a to f) and must submit separate documents as listed above (1 to 5).
Documents will be processed and the actual length of stay (usually one year) will be determined and granted at the
Thai Immigration Bureau. This process should be completed within three months of applying.
Having been in the Kingdom up to a maximum of 90 days from issue of the “O-A” visa, applicants must report
themselves to the Thai Immigration Bureau concerned and every 90 days there after. Alternatively they can report by
post by completing Form TH-47 which can be obtained at the Thai Immigration Bureau.
After staying in the Kingdom for one year and wishing to extend the stay, this can also be done by submitting an
application to the Thai Immigration Bureau and by showing documents to confirm your financial status meets the
requirements (65k baht monthly income or 800k baht lump-sum in Thai bank – subject to alteration without notice).
In the case of the spouse wishing to extend their stay on the “O” visa they must produce their Marriage Certificate.
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Get a Residents Permit. It's a darn sight easier!
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The OA is ONLY ISSUED from YOUR HOME COUNTRY NOT from WITHIN THAILAND. There is no conversion from an O to an OA. At last report I had HULL will NOT issue an OA you need to go to the Thai Embassy in London.
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The OA is ONLY ISSUED from YOUR HOME COUNTRY NOT from WITHIN THAILAND. There is no conversion from an O to an OA. At last report I had HULL will NOT issue an OA you need to go to the Thai Embassy in London.
Thanks David - I only deal with Hull and that explains their wording.
edit - don't know why wording is underlined and bold ??
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Wow! That caused a ripple or two in the pond. I agree most humbly that i made a silly slip by calling an 'extension' a 'visa' - brain a bit overloaded with relocation details. Of course you are correct, the terminology is veryimportant. Thanks to all for freely giving advice.
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Actually, main point of my first post was just to mention an alternative to the £900 a month that is required for multi non imm O from Hull (etc.) Now I have no income. I was pleased to learn the visa will be issued on basis of the sum I posted in UK bank. Nothing to do with the 800,000 bht to be shown in Thailand.
The second point was a bit rhetorical about the 3 month of 'seasoning' in Thailand. It was 2 months only for as many years as I recall.
Treading carefully here but probably still gonna step in it. R
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Wow! That caused a ripple or two in the pond. I agree most humbly that i made a silly slip by calling an 'extension' a 'visa' - brain a bit overloaded with relocation details. Of course you are correct, the terminology is veryimportant. Thanks to all for freely giving advice.
Roger, thank you for helping me to discover that there is in fact a "retirement visa" available. I had always advised people that there was no such thing - which, of course, at Hull there isn't !
Thanks to you I am now aware that an "O-A" is available from the Thai embassy in London.
An individuals situation will determine whether it is best to extend after 1 year or, obtain another "O-A"
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CC, Thanks for thanks. For a minute I thought I was in for sarcasm. Paranoid or what?
I never got to say 'hello' at Coffee Corner. The one time I pulled up for a bite to eat you were closed. I should have checked opening times. ...... I got lots of other gripping tales to rival that one!
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Actually, main point of my first post was just to mention an alternative to the £900 a month that is required for multi non imm O from Hull (etc.) Now I have no income. I was pleased to learn the visa will be issued on basis of the sum I posted in UK bank. Nothing to do with the 800,000 bht to be shown in Thailand.
The second point was a bit rhetorical about the 3 month of 'seasoning' in Thailand. It was 2 months only for as many years as I recall.
Treading carefully here but probably still gonna step in it. R
Just for information the seasoning of money for marriage retirement extension/visa is 2 months the first time and 3 months thereafter.
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The OA is ONLY ISSUED from YOUR HOME COUNTRY NOT from WITHIN THAILAND. There is no conversion from an O to an OA. At last report I had HULL will NOT issue an OA you need to go to the Thai Embassy in London.
As with about everything "There is an exception to every rule"
I got an Non Immigrant OA visa at Korat, I came into Thailand on a Turist Visa (Oct 2011), converted to a Retirement Visa (Nov 2011) with a 90 day stay permit, and then got a 1 year Retirement Visa (Feb 2012), all with never leaving Thailand.
The two main things I needed was:
1. Having a Thai Spouse (with proof)
2. Proof of income. In my case I used US Embassy notary stating I had over 65000 Baht a month income. (This was very easy to obtain by paying the $50 fee at the Embassy). I would recommend this income verification as it overcame some issues with my bank amount statement, I will do it again just as backup.
An advantage to the multi-entry visa is that everytime you leave Thailand and return, your 90 day reporting time is reset from the day you re-enter Thailand, I understand this applies to "Border runs". I have verified the 90 day reset with flying out of BKK, and I expect to check a border run in August. A border run seems easier to me then getting the paper work for a Korat visit (but a little more expensive as the wife expects to shop at the border).
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GotLost,
I have heard Hua Hin Immigration NOW applying 3 months to FIRST seasoning. As CC said 'rules change'. When shown copy of rules with 2 month clause they responded with their current copy without the clause.
I am asking not stating. This is Buriram Forum but an Immigration issue might affect across the bord
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Oops .....the board
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The OA is ONLY ISSUED from YOUR HOME COUNTRY NOT from WITHIN THAILAND. There is no conversion from an O to an OA. At last report I had HULL will NOT issue an OA you need to go to the Thai Embassy in London.
As with about everything "There is an exception to every rule"
I got an Non Immigrant OA visa at Korat, I came into Thailand on a Turist Visa (Oct 2011), converted to a Retirement Visa (Nov 2011) with a 90 day stay permit, and then got a 1 year Retirement Visa (Feb 2012), all with never leaving Thailand.
The two main things I needed was:
1. Having a Thai Spouse (with proof)
2. Proof of income. In my case I used US Embassy notary stating I had over 65000 Baht a month income. (This was very easy to obtain by paying the $50 fee at the Embassy). I would recommend this income verification as it overcame some issues with my bank amount statement, I will do it again just as backup.
An advantage to the multi-entry visa is that everytime you leave Thailand and return, your 90 day reporting time is reset from the day you re-enter Thailand, I understand this applies to "Border runs". I have verified the 90 day reset with flying out of BKK, and I expect to check a border run in August. A border run seems easier to me then getting the paper work for a Korat visit (but a little more expensive as the wife expects to shop at the border).
An OA visa and a retirement visa are not the same thing. An OA visa is only available in your home country. As far as I know they are not available in UK.
You need a medical certificate for an OA. You do not need one for an O based on retirement or an extension.
OA visa is valid for a year, no need to leave the country. In some cases a double entry is available. This means that you leave on the 364th day and return. You will get a permission to stay stamp for another year.
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The OA is ONLY ISSUED from YOUR HOME COUNTRY NOT from WITHIN THAILAND. There is no conversion from an O to an OA. At last report I had HULL will NOT issue an OA you need to go to the Thai Embassy in London.
As with about everything "There is an exception to every rule"
I got an Non Immigrant OA visa at Korat, I came into Thailand on a Turist Visa (Oct 2011), converted to a Retirement Visa (Nov 2011) with a 90 day stay permit, and then got a 1 year Retirement Visa (Feb 2012), all with never leaving Thailand.
The two main things I needed was:
1. Having a Thai Spouse (with proof)
2. Proof of income. In my case I used US Embassy notary stating I had over 65000 Baht a month income. (This was very easy to obtain by paying the $50 fee at the Embassy). I would recommend this income verification as it overcame some issues with my bank amount statement, I will do it again just as backup.
An advantage to the multi-entry visa is that everytime you leave Thailand and return, your 90 day reporting time is reset from the day you re-enter Thailand, I understand this applies to "Border runs". I have verified the 90 day reset with flying out of BKK, and I expect to check a border run in August. A border run seems easier to me then getting the paper work for a Korat visit (but a little more expensive as the wife expects to shop at the border).
An OA visa and a retirement visa are not the same thing. An OA visa is only available in your home country. As far as I know they are not available in UK.
You need a medical certificate for an OA. You do not need one for an O based on retirement or an extension.
OA visa is valid for a year, no need to leave the country. In some cases a double entry is available. This means that you leave on the 364th day and return. You will get a permission to stay stamp for another year.
I have only just discovered that the "O-A" is available from the Thai embassy in London. This was a reply on Thaivisa.com (where I had quoted Hull saying that you get an O-A in Bangkok):-
Hull is misinformed (they can not issue an O-A visa and it is not available in Thailand).
The O-A allows you to obtain a one year permitted to stay on entry with no requirement to transfer funds into Thailand - if multi entry up to two years stay can be obtained before any extension of stay from immigration inside Thailand is required. For those that travel the multi entry requires no re-entry permits for first year so very easy to use for those with part time retirement stays who return to the home country and obtain a new O-A visa.