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Buriram Province - General Category => Real Estate, housing, house and land ownership => Topic started by: Burirambuilder on February 14, 2012, 04:48:48 AM

Title: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Burirambuilder on February 14, 2012, 04:48:48 AM
Hi Guys,

Here is the progress of a house we are building in Lamduan, Near Surin. 8 weeks Progress.

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Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Burirambuilder on February 18, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
More pics:-
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Post by: Burirambuilder on February 18, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
and more:-
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Post by: Burirambuilder on February 18, 2012, 08:34:36 PM
more
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Post by: Burirambuilder on February 18, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
and...
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Post by: george on February 18, 2012, 09:38:14 PM
and...
How much?
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Vombatus on February 18, 2012, 11:03:28 PM
and...
How much?

That's a rather direct question for your first post george.

Had you considered softening your enquiry ?
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: george on February 19, 2012, 12:34:36 AM
Not really
and...
How much?

That's a rather direct question for your first post george.

Had you considered softening your enquiry ?
Not really when you need to know how much something costs,you normally ask HOW MUCH or do we talk different languages.
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 05:50:41 AM
This house is around the 3 mill mark , I will add the floor plan and more detail spec latter ,Using the paper foil with these C-Pac tiles simply stops air flow running through the roof , the client (a building engineer) requested we dont put it .I agree with him also ,the paper foil is a waist of time "in my eyes" ,I have been inside many roof spaces with this C-pac roof tile.the roofs with  the foil Dark sweaty and hot \ without the foil light airy and cool !
Thanks for the input guy ,more pics of bathrooms and so on coming .
Again thanks .
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Vombatus on February 19, 2012, 08:42:25 AM
Not really
and...
How much?

That's a rather direct question for your first post george.

Had you considered softening your enquiry ?
Not really when you need to know how much something costs,you normally ask HOW MUCH or do we talk different languages.

Are you thinking of buying it ?   :biggrin:

Can't think of any reason why you would NEED to know.
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 08:54:52 AM
Twas rather a blunt reply - How much  ? lol lol ...
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Post by: Vombatus on February 19, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
Twas rather a blunt reply - How much  ? lol lol ...

I am sure that many people are interested in what it costs to build one of your houses. My point was simply that if you do want to know at least ask in a courteous manner.

Something along the lines of "I would be very interested to know how much a house of that style/type would cost to build" would encourage me to share the information.

"How much" would not.
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 09:30:13 AM
Or even something along theses lines is the norm  -  What is the overall size of the house ? do you have more spec regarding  costing and so on ,do you have a floor plan with room detail ?
Thanks George .
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Post by: dundeemk6 on February 19, 2012, 04:19:15 PM
Alan : for rude and impolite people you just add an extra 500.000 so can have extra free time in Siem Reap and enjoy a magnum of Camensac ... anyway rude people are most of the time CC's that try to piss people off.
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Camensac never had the joy of drinking this as yet  mate ! --- Peng mia ?
Being from Manchester we never had such luxuries as wine as fine as this when I was a kid ..lol..
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: dundeemk6 on February 19, 2012, 04:54:11 PM
I saw them in a supermarket on the main road in Siem Reap, if I remember correctly they were at 40 something for a magnum ... witch is dirtcheap in my opinion.
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 04:55:46 PM
how much ?
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 04:58:02 PM
Or is that a bit of a blunt question lol lol lol 
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Post by: dundeemk6 on February 19, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
If my memory serves me wright : less than 50 US.
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
wow ...
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Post by: olavhome on February 19, 2012, 06:28:45 PM
Today is Sunday and let it be peace slapfight.
As being interested in house build I can understand the question (but was a little direct :)) It is the first thing you think about, then of course you also think about size, quality etc. But Alans pictures also give good info.

What also is important to remember is that many in this site dont use English as native language. This mean that it may happen that sometimes post can seem a little "unpolite" without ment to be  :).

But - Alan - you tell something intresting about not having isolation foil under the tiles. Had the impression up to now that this was the best manner to reduce temperature inside roof, but understand this dont need to be correct ?
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 19, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
But - Alan - you tell something intresting about not having isolation foil under the tiles. Had the impression up to now that this was the best manner to reduce temperature inside roof, but understand this dont need to be correct ?

In my opinion placing a heat reflecting foil "underneath" a roof tile as hardly going to reflect any sun rays at all ! Plus  after a few years most of these foils  just fall apart . There are lots of different ways of cooling houses,it all depends on the person ,some people like air-con some don't.It all depends on what you like we are all different  ,  a lot of the old(American) Hippys like to live in mud huts with no windows ,or houses made from old tyres  filled with mud for example very cool but not my cup of tea !  :)
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on February 20, 2012, 05:10:44 AM
http://taosearthships.com/

While I was working in New Mexico USA I had a look at these things it was interesting !
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Burirambuilder on March 03, 2012, 06:12:58 PM
More pics from Lamduan:-

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Post by: Alanthebuilder on March 28, 2012, 05:15:34 AM
Here are a few undated picks guys.
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on March 28, 2012, 05:17:18 AM
a few more
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 06, 2012, 06:11:20 AM
Here are a few more pictures house almost there now just a few touch up,s left and of course the garden wall.
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 06, 2012, 06:16:54 AM
A few more ..
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Post by: teppo42 on April 06, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
Holy x how much I hate when people have more money than I can ever have. But good on you anyway, I'm trying to be positive here but it's not working right now... :(
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Zombie on April 07, 2012, 06:25:34 PM
But - Alan - you tell something intresting about not having isolation foil under the tiles. Had the impression up to now that this was the best manner to reduce temperature inside roof, but understand this dont need to be correct ?

In my opinion placing a heat reflecting foil "underneath" a roof tile as hardly going to reflect any sun rays at all ! Plus  after a few years most of these foils  just fall apart . There are lots of different ways of cooling houses,it all depends on the person ,some people like air-con some don't.It all depends on what you like we are all different  ,  a lot of the old(American) Hippys like to live in mud huts with no windows ,or houses made from old tyres  filled with mud for example very cool but not my cup of tea ! 



Love the answer to the question put to the builder?lol
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 08, 2012, 07:09:26 AM
Air flow in the roof is good all round cooler and stops any damp.Curved C-Pak Monier are a great tile and provide all of this . But if the client wants siver foil we put it ,this guy said "do not put" ! evey-one to there own ,I think if useing flat tiles maybe the foil might help a tiny bit.
Very true the stuff does not last more than a few years ,it falls apart .
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Post by: davu on April 08, 2012, 12:32:38 PM
there is a lot of discussion about "reflective foil" on coolthaihouse.com. From the point of view of insulation against convective heat, foil is useless. However it does apparently throw back heat that is being RADIATED from the hot roof, which is why there should be a space between the foil and the roof.  I wasn't aware that it falls apart after a few years, news to me, I only found out lately that there are different qualities available.  As we already have a roof, the only way we could put foil in would be to remove the roof, so in view of what Alan says, I don't think I'll bother.
What I will be doing is putting in insulation (glass wool I guess) above the ceiling, with the vapour barrier upwards. Insect- and burglar proof openings in the eaves should ensure for air circulation, some guys even put in a fan with thermostat in the roof space.
Thais have been forced to change building materials since they destroyed the forests, and go for the cheapest variation available, which is why their houses are generally so disagreeable to live in. In Marocco the traditional building materials (mud bricks and adobe etc) plus the architecture of the houses lets people live in relatively cool conditions. There is a movement to construct houses with sun-dried bricks (don't laugh, this is a very good construction material. Any rice farmer has enough suitable mud in his fields). Very labour intensive, so suitable for Thailand if I dare say so.
I'm sure it is possible to live without A/C, we will be installing anyway in the hope that we don't need it.
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Post by: davu on April 08, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
by the way, here in Switzerland we are having English weather . sleet and cold. Difficult to think about heat problems....
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Post by: trevor1 on April 08, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
I agree with you alan that foil under the tiles is really a waste of money. heat rises and most of the heat inside a house comes through the walls or windows. Go to any single block building and feel the heat radiating through the walls, its amazing how hot they become.I used a cavity wall foam filled system when i built my house and designed it so that the main living area was in the centre of the house with no direct sunlight going into it. i dont need a/c . I used a smoked glass in the windows which has also helped to keep out heat although not as affective as double glazing. The cost of using a double block on the outside walls is very little compared to the costs of installing a/c and running it for a year.You can further increase your houses insulation properties by drylining the inside walls with plaster board creating yet a further barrier against heat, as i have done which gives you the opportunity to wallpaper your walls instead of just having it rendered.The cost of doing this really is quite small. Looking at your recent build alan i am impressed with it .looks good and workmanship also looks good. well done nice to see a decent build . as a builder myself i tend to be quite critical and see so much rubbish built today by thai builders.Keep up the good work.
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 09, 2012, 06:17:20 AM
Double blocks is a good idea ,we ether do this or use Supper block of both ,
Wallpaper hey Trev not much of that over here mate ..
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: trevor1 on April 09, 2012, 07:24:45 AM
Quite agree on the wallpaper situation alan but most europeans go back to their own country every year so can bring it out with them like i did. personal choice i guess.The double block system works superb even on a really hot day my house stays cool.I have seen many houses with 4 or 5 a/c attached to feed a few rooms thats about 100k in cost let alone running them.I think we all want to live comfortably over here at the lowest price possible this was just my way that seems to work good for me.just something for other guys looking to build their own place to think about.
Title: Re: A House construction in Lamduan, Surin
Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 13, 2012, 09:31:07 AM
The pictures of the complete house will be up in 1 week .

Here is a house we are building in Hua-Rat near Buriram ,a very big house indeed about 400sqm .
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 13, 2012, 09:33:01 AM
more ..
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 13, 2012, 09:34:45 AM
Ring only 30 cubes of concrete .
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 21, 2012, 07:05:12 PM
A few more picks ...
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on April 21, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
more picks
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Post by: Murtle_71 on April 25, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
For roof cooling and cheap go for holes in the eaves with a wirlybird in the roof, this will create a natural draft. Cool air is sucked into the roof cavity as the hot air rises out the hole in the wirlybird. The shape of the wirlybird stops the rain from getting into the roof. Well it does with normal rain.

As always Al very well finished,

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Post by: Nobby on April 27, 2012, 12:51:01 PM
For roof cooling and cheap go for holes in the eaves with a wirlybird in the roof, this will create a natural draft. Cool air is sucked into the roof cavity as the hot air rises out the hole in the wirlybird. The shape of the wirlybird stops the rain from getting into the roof. Well it does with normal rain.

As always Al very well finished,

Normal Rain!!!!! welcome to Thailand!
Rats/Jinjoks and Tokays will love the easy access! Hope your wiring in armour plated ,mate!!!!!!!!!  thumbup
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on May 03, 2012, 05:56:44 AM
http://www.alanthebuilder.com/surin2012.html
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Post by: Vombatus on May 03, 2012, 07:48:02 PM
For roof cooling and cheap go for holes in the eaves with a wirlybird in the roof, this will create a natural draft. Cool air is sucked into the roof cavity as the hot air rises out the hole in the wirlybird. The shape of the wirlybird stops the rain from getting into the roof. Well it does with normal rain.

As always Al very well finished,

Normal Rain!!!!! welcome to Thailand!
Rats/Jinjoks and Tokays will love the easy access! Hope your wiring in armour plated ,mate!!!!!!!!!  thumbup


Mesh Nobby,   mesh !
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on May 03, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
To be honest the clients dont normally go into the roof space , there is lots of air flow inside the roof space with these C-Pac Monier curvy roof tiles its not a problem .Also with the air flow running through this space the hot air can only go upwards and not down .

Hey all cool man ;]
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Post by: Alanthebuilder on May 13, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
a pick