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Title: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 09, 2011, 10:21:27 AM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 10:39:09 AM
I've believe these activities were long overdue in a sad way.

No reasoning in particular or a blame to truly pinpoint.

Pure social and economic frustration isn't starting to show it's head.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 10:53:12 AM
Have the muangthong supporters been over to london causing trouble,they do get about don't they.
happy days living in this great country of  thailandflag.

besides does anyone really care what goes on in london or england.
                                          answer NO giggle giggle giggle giggle giggle
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 09, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
This tension has been waiting to explode for a long time
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 11:10:21 AM
This tension has been waiting to explode for a long time
icon_must just in there was a misunderstanding last night with the riots,someone made a call and said wembley stadium was on fire,turned out to be wembley refuge dump.the WELSH football club made a comment witch read.
                           EASY MISTAKE TO MAKE.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 11:21:01 AM
The Army needs to be called out to control these scum.

Issue a warning, then shoot the buggers!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 11:30:02 AM


besides does anyone really care what goes on in london or england.
                                          answer NO

Diplomatically speaking? NO.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 11:32:45 AM
Some do Jeff - you seem to care about so little
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 11:34:24 AM
The Army needs to be called out to control these scum.

Issue a warning, then shoot the buggers!
that's a strong word "SCUM".
if you KICK someone long enough don't be surprised when one day they KICK back.
i think most people would agree this has been on the cards for a long time.
the government they have now need to wake up and understand what is going on,they seem to be in the dark,weather by choice or not i don't know.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 11:36:11 AM


besides does anyone really care what goes on in london or england.
                                          answer NO

Diplomatically speaking? NO.
well said jeff bravo1
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
So who
The Army needs to be called out to control these scum.

Issue a warning, then shoot the buggers!
that's a strong word "SCUM".
if you KICK someone long enough don't be surprised when one day they KICK back.
i think most people would agree this has been on the cards for a long time.
the government they have now need to wake up and understand what is going on,they seem to be in the dark,weather by choice or not i don't know.



So who is kicking who Jonesey?

Those that get kicked generally deserve to be kicked.

Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Some do Jeff - you seem to care about so little
To the contrary, Nicky!
I'm quite passionate and caring about numerous entities... thumbup
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 11:52:59 AM
What about those poor gee gees?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 11:55:00 AM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPbNvIzMf0&feature=player_detailpage

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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 11:58:31 AM
Some do Jeff - you seem to care about so little
To the contrary, Nicky!
I'm quite passionate and caring about numerous entities... thumbup

Re-incarnation being one!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
[/quote you must be talking about the british and americian governments
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 12:10:10 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
so the answer then nick is lie down and let every one walk over you,once in a while you need to stand up for yourself.
or should we just let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.i agree it is not right but sometimes needs to be done,maybe now someone will listen.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 09, 2011, 12:15:53 PM
This tension has been waiting to explode for a long time
icon_must just in there was a misunderstanding last night with the riots,someone made a call and said wembley stadium was on fire,turned out to be wembley refuge dump.the WELSH football club made a comment witch read.
                           EASY MISTAKE TO MAKE.
To which witch do you refer
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
so the answer then nick is lie down and let every one walk over you,once in a while you need to stand up for yourself.
or should we just let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.i agree it is not right but sometimes needs to be done,maybe now someone will listen.



Thought you didn't care Jones

There are ways of obtaining results - and using violence usually isn't one of them.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 09, 2011, 12:19:56 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
so the answer then nick is lie down and let every one walk over you,once in a while you need to stand up for yourself.
or should we just let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.i agree it is not right but sometimes needs to be done,maybe now someone will listen.
I am watching BBC as I post this......Interesting as to which nationalities are in the main responsible for this spate of civil unrest ,arson & looting
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 09, 2011, 12:22:43 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
so the answer then nick is lie down and let every one walk over you,once in a while you need to stand up for yourself.
or should we just let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.i agree it is not right but sometimes needs to be done,maybe now someone will listen.



Thought you didn't care Jones

There are ways of obtaining results - and using violence usually isn't one of them.
True Nick but the time does come when violence/rioting is a last resort....
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 12:24:01 PM

I am watching BBC as I post this......Interesting as to which nationalities are in the main responsible for this spate of civil unrest ,arson & looting

Nationalities? Aren't all "nationals" under the same empire?
Rule Britannia. So much for a Commonwealth...
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 12:29:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2TYKmQc0L4&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
This tension has been waiting to explode for a long time
icon_must just in there was a misunderstanding last night with the riots,someone made a call and said wembley stadium was on fire,turned out to be wembley refuge dump.the WELSH football club made a comment witch read.
                           EASY MISTAKE TO MAKE.
To which witch do you refer
thank you for correcting my english,i believe i have done that a few times now must be getting old

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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 12:44:47 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 12:47:50 PM
candy
stop joking around this is very serious LONDON is being burnt to the ground.

 congrats bravo1 redman bananadance
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
Anyone who goes around terrorising innocent people, burning and looting shops, are SCUM and need to be dealt with accordingly!
so the answer then nick is lie down and let every one walk over you,once in a while you need to stand up for yourself.
or should we just let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.i agree it is not right but sometimes needs to be done,maybe now someone will listen.



Thought you didn't care Jones

There are ways of obtaining results - and using violence usually isn't one of them.
True Nick but the time does come when violence/rioting is a last resort....

Surely the last resort has not been reached. I am not aware of any normal protests. This has come about due to the police shooting of a youth some 3/4 days ago.

It is the largely uneducated masses that are rioting, and they have little idea what they are protesting against.  Just nothing better to do with themselves.  Protests can be peaceful, and certainly don't need to include looting and violence.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 01:04:28 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 09, 2011, 01:45:59 PM
psst....Candy

You missed "Ghost town" by the specials.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 01:53:21 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 01:56:27 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 09, 2011, 02:01:59 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: dundeemk6 on August 09, 2011, 02:33:18 PM
@ Nick : I think we've two new Ben Butt on the Forum ... must be dutch again ...
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Vombatus on August 09, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
WATER CANONS FIRST.

BACKED UP BY RUBBER BULLETS.

FOLLOWED UP BY LIVE ROUNDS.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 02:53:57 PM
WATER CANONS FIRST.

BACKED UP BY RUBBER BULLETS.

FOLLOWED UP BY LIVE ROUNDS.
WATER CANONS FIRST.

BACKED UP BY RUBBER BULLETS.

FOLLOWED UP BY LIVE ROUNDS.

As Maggie Thatcher once said..........Someone I can do business with. Well said CoCo.

UK Law and order is pathetic.!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Vombatus on August 09, 2011, 03:02:55 PM
WATER CANONS FIRST.

BACKED UP BY RUBBER BULLETS.

FOLLOWED UP BY LIVE ROUNDS.
WATER CANONS FIRST.

BACKED UP BY RUBBER BULLETS.

FOLLOWED UP BY LIVE ROUNDS.

As Maggie Thatcher once said..........Someone I can do business with. Well said CoCo.

UK Law and order is pathetic.!


UK Law & Order is a misnomer.

(Having said that, the Thai government were ineffective during the "Reds" demonstrations).
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 09, 2011, 03:09:39 PM

(Having said that, the Thai government were ineffective during the "Reds" demonstrations).

I doubt the dozens who died would agree.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Vombatus on August 09, 2011, 03:30:14 PM

(Having said that, the Thai government were ineffective during the "Reds" demonstrations).

I doubt the dozens who died would agree.

Doesn't make the handing of it effective.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 09, 2011, 04:26:32 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Vombatus on August 09, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
Still, it should improve the centre of Birmingham.

Perhaps they can start on Wolverhampton next.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: pfbrown on August 09, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
This is ”Clockwork Orange", anybody who has seen the movie or read the book will understand that the thugs will hate those that abide by decency and a code of conduct. They have always been waiting for a breakdown of the will of a countries citizens to insist that their government adhere to a code of conduct! Witness the riots in Vancouver, Canada. Where is Churchill now!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 09, 2011, 07:26:28 PM
Plenty of O/T tonight
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: pfbrown on August 09, 2011, 07:41:07 PM
What is O/T please.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 09, 2011, 07:46:05 PM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 09, 2011, 07:50:41 PM
What is O/T please.

O/T is OVERTIME
Which is a payment you get for working hours above you standard day.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: pfbrown on August 09, 2011, 07:57:04 PM
Hah! Thought we were all retired with nothing to do but blow smoke up each others portals! Thanks!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 08:01:29 PM
watching the U.K.burn is starting to get BORING.
lets get back to the serious stuff BURIRAM PEA and BURIRAM F.C.

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DON'T YOU JUST LOVE BURIRAM.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 09, 2011, 08:33:30 PM
watching the U.K.burn is starting to get BORING.
lets get back to the serious stuff BURIRAM PEA and BURIRAM F.C.

 spot1 crazydance redman bananadance party2 party8 jumping1

DON'T YOU JUST LOVE BURIRAM.


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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jockey on August 09, 2011, 08:54:18 PM
Fishing park coming soon to  buriramsmiley co-owners MR Jones the rice and MR Nookiebear. 2guys
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 09, 2011, 09:14:08 PM
I agree with the riots
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 09:16:05 PM
Fishing park coming soon to  buriramsmiley co-owners MR Jones the rice and MR Nookiebear. 2guys
mai kaew jai jing jing
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 09, 2011, 09:19:10 PM
Pfbrown brake out of your mind prison and keep away from the fairy tale movies
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 09:20:41 PM
I've been browsing, greatly, through news reports, videos, blogs, and other assorted sources....and I've got to say this has become quite the hardened mess.

Spreading throughout the country like a virus.

Can any of you speculate on any such political outcome or changes that might come about because of these continuing events?

Frankly, there are contemporary situations in some parts of the world that could be easily sparked by mirrored tinder.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 09, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
I agree with the riots
welcome to the forum aderushmer i think me and you are going to get along very well
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jockey on August 09, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
Fishing park coming soon to  buriramsmiley  co-owners MR Jones the rice and MR Nookiebear. 2guys
looks like 3 owners. icon_must  mr  rushmer
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: garytaffy on August 09, 2011, 09:49:03 PM
Still, it should improve the centre of Birmingham.

Perhaps they can start on Wolverhampton next.
   Getting a bit too near Shropshire for my liking Ray!!!!! Can't agree withe the forum members who advocate rioting and looting. As a shopkeeper i've worked bloody hard to get what i have, so wouldn't take kindly to a bunch of opportunists deciding to trash the shops and plunder the contents. Most reports I've heard back up the opinion that most are using the unrest purely to loot.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Beer Leo on August 09, 2011, 09:53:10 PM
I agree with the riots
welcome to the forum aderushmer i think me and you are going to get along very well

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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: smithy99 on August 09, 2011, 10:00:42 PM
What about the children   party13
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: pfbrown on August 09, 2011, 10:04:16 PM
 swordfight Ahhh! Mr. Rushmer,  a non-literate contribution to the post, you state my case!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jeff on August 09, 2011, 11:17:11 PM
What about the children   party13
Of course.....the children brick1
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nico on August 09, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
I heard they had to cancel some football games too in UK, maybe because lack of football hooligans
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: nookiebear on August 10, 2011, 04:19:57 AM
I agree with the riots
welcome to the forum aderushmer i think me and you are going to get along very well
I think you pair are closely related judging by your poor grasp of English!!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 10, 2011, 07:12:04 AM
Leffe beer and tramadol for supper.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 10, 2011, 07:22:21 AM
Quick survey for the group I am interested in which websites or media sources people are building their opinions from on of the situation in the UK ? Please post them in the forum.
Very interested
Many thanks.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 10, 2011, 07:26:51 AM
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Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 07:39:30 AM
What about the children   party13
that is a valid point
we can use them to carry all the small items out of the shops,you know like
toasters,portable t.v.cameras camcorders etc etc it's surprising how useful children can be. redman redman redman redman
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
Still, it should improve the centre of Birmingham.

Perhaps they can start on Wolverhampton next.
   Getting a bit too near Shropshire for my liking Ray!!!!! Can't agree withe the forum members who advocate rioting and looting. As a shopkeeper i've worked bloody hard to get what i have, so wouldn't take kindly to a bunch of opportunists deciding to trash the shops and plunder the contents. Most reports I've heard back up the opinion that most are using the unrest purely to loot.

I was on the net quite a lot last night communicating with people I know in the UK to get the full story of what is happening and not just the media point of view. Most are agreeing with garytaffy's post.

It appears that the rioters are nothing but rent a mob. Most people I spoke to, shop keepers, pub/bar owners, teachers, bank workers and civil servants who are of all different political persuasions, are asking for a big crack down. Get the army in and get it sorted.

Those that condone these riots, describing them as a rebellion, don't realise that people, ordinary man on the street people, are having their lives ruined.

Don't forget too that when it is finally declared a "riot" insurance companies stop paying out. Part of insurance policies. Then it is up to the Government to pay out. Making economic matter, as some are blaming for the riots, worse.

Would like to know how many people on here who appear to support the riots would feel if they woke up this morning and their brand new car was upside down on fire. No insurance cover. I would imagine their views would change somewhat.

Remember the Reds and the Yellows over here in Thailand. Seem to remember people having a right go about them. Why change opinion now?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 10, 2011, 08:02:47 AM
Fully support you Steve.

The army are needed now -with their weapons. Warn once -warn twice then FIRE!

SOM NOM NA!!!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Adam on August 10, 2011, 08:23:15 AM
Most of the "Rioters" appear to be young kids with nothing better to do.

It's just the the riots back in the 80's, which spawned copy cat actions all over the country.

More importantly will the Villa game at Fulham be called off?? Now THAT would piss me off!! chairhit buttslap boxingguy
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 10, 2011, 08:24:43 AM
The riots in the uk are designed to get more police on the streets and take away more civil liberties from the people, the police could have stopped it but they didn't.
The general theory in the uk is problem reaction solution create a problem (riot)get a reaction (public something must be done) solution (have more police in an already police state and have more CCTV and airport scanners in already the most surveyed society in the world.
There is a bigger picture and I talk to a lot of people over here
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 08:25:29 AM
Still, it should improve the centre of Birmingham.

Perhaps they can start on Wolverhampton next.
   Getting a bit too near Shropshire for my liking Ray!!!!! Can't agree withe the forum members who advocate rioting and looting. As a shopkeeper i've worked bloody hard to get what i have, so wouldn't take kindly to a bunch of opportunists deciding to trash the shops and plunder the contents. Most reports I've heard back up the opinion that most are using the unrest purely to loot.

I was on the net quite a lot last night communicating with people I know in the UK to get the full story of what is happening and not just the media point of view. Most are agreeing with garytaffy's post.

It appears that the rioters are nothing but rent a mob. Most people I spoke to, shop keepers, pub/bar owners, teachers, bank workers and civil servants who are of all different political persuasions, are asking for a big crack down. Get the army in and get it sorted.

Those that condone these riots, describing them as a rebellion, don't realise that people, ordinary man on the street people, are having their lives ruined.

Don't forget too that when it is finally declared a "riot" insurance companies stop paying out. Part of insurance policies. Then it is up to the Government to pay out. Making economic matter, as some are blaming for the riots, worse.

Would like to know how many people on here who appear to support the riots would feel if they woke up this morning and their brand new car was upside down on fire. No insurance cover. I would imagine their views would change somewhat.

Remember the Reds and the Yellows over here in Thailand. Seem to remember people having a right go about them. Why change opinion now?
get the army in what army would that be starman seems to me your army are busy else where raping and murdering other innocent people.
about the car if my car got burnt i would just go out a buy another one,so where is the problem.
and do i really care about the u.k.
NO.UP THE BURIRAM PEA.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
The riots in the uk are designed to get more police on the streets and take away more civil liberties from the people, the police could have stopped it but they didn't.
The general theory in the uk is problem reaction solution create a problem (riot)get a reaction (public something must be done) solution (have more police in an already police state and have more CCTV and airport scanners in already the most surveyed society in the world.
There is a bigger picture and I talk to a lot of people over here
ade it's like a breath of fresh air having you here,well said my friend well said.
lot's of people on here ade that are BRAINWASHED.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
Excuse me chaps, just a point of order. There are no UK riots, only English riots! CNN has already been blasted for stating ''UK riots''. I'm told 300 Glasgow police are heading for London, proper coppers that won't take any hassle!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 08:36:23 AM
Excuse me chaps, just a point of order. There are no UK riots, only English riots! CNN has already been blasted for stating ''UK riots''. I'm told 300 Glasgow police are heading for London, proper coppers that won't take any hassle!
strange SCOTLAND protecting england.i suppose that's when it becomes the u.k. riots. burirampea
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 08:39:25 AM
Jamaw.....You haven't been on here for a while. The last time you were on here you were pointing out that you were British. That Wales was not a country. That it is all part of the UK. Now you are trying to distance yourself.

Don't understand.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:39:54 AM
The Strathclyde police were requested due to their experience of handling 5 Old Firm games a season. This was noted at the UEFA Cup final when Manchester police were slammed for their incompetence in crowd control. It is a United Kingdom and we all help each other and on this occasion we will send down specially trained police to beat the lights out of them!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:43:14 AM
Yes, I'm a busy man. I did point out a fact that wales, Scotland and indeed are not countries which is true. They are part of the United Kingdom which is a country! Scotland and England were previously recognised as countries prior to the Act of the Union, Wales was not as it was taken up and administered by England so Wales played no part in the negociations of the Union hence why there is no Welsh flag incorporated in the Union Flag...which in my little opinion is wrong and insulting to Wales!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
And not distancing my self, have a think about it! This is a problem unique to London and other cities have copy cats! If there were riots solely in Glasgow or Cardiff do you think it would be described as British? History tells me not.

Anyway, got a funny link on Facebook sent....Col Gadhaffi & the Libyan Government now recognise the London rioters as the UK's legitimate Government ;-)
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 08:48:03 AM
Thank you for your answer. I totally agree with you. Difficult not to. Can't argue with facts.

I like the bit in your previous post " It is a United Kingdom". Good point.

Not sure Mr.Jones would agree. whistle
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:50:45 AM
We all have banter as ex-pats and sometimes we Scots are the worst but I loved moments like watching England beat the Aussies at Cricket when I was in Australia and supporting England and giving the Aussies stick....and I have good Aussie mates!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 10, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
Why do people who have a dislike to England care whats going on in the cities of England?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 08:54:34 AM
England and Wales Cricket Team. redman icon_heart
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 08:57:22 AM
up yours
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 08:58:00 AM
Binny, I don't think this is an English problem. I've read and listened to many comments on there riots and one American stated..''this is not an English thing'' which is true! We can digress or perhaps say certain things but two facts....90% of the people of Tottenham are from ethncic backgrounds and as much as 80% of the ethnic community have no fathers, single mothers from the age of 13 up! I got that from Andrew Neil on Twitter and it was mentioned in BBC's Newsnight!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 08:58:53 AM
bravo1 which in my little opinion is wrong and insulting to Wales!

Thank you love5
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
Most people I spoke to, shop keepers, pub/bar owners, teachers, bank workers and civil servants

That's at least ten people.Were you up all night? Was it a video conference?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 09:01:58 AM
Thank you for your answer. I totally agree with you. Difficult not to. Can't argue with facts.

I like the bit in your previous post " It is a United Kingdom". Good point.

Not sure Mr.Jones would agree. whistle
no i don't walesflag forever,starman if you like the u.k so much why don't you go and live there with all the other BRAINWASHED CLOWNS.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:04:55 AM
Well, it is Candy. Wales is as much a part as Scotland and England and more so then N. Ireland yet the N.Irish flag is incorporated in the flag.

Just to answer a litte point Binnsy...the National Anthem of UK is what the Scots object to because of the 6th verse or the 8th verse that was originally written....''to slay the rebellious Scots we will''. How can one be 'United' when that was written? Of course it has not been sung now but the full version still exists and is indeed an English anthem thrust upon the other nations!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 09:06:20 AM
Thank you for your answer. I totally agree with you. Difficult not to. Can't argue with facts.

I like the bit in your previous post " It is a United Kingdom". Good point.

Not sure Mr.Jones would agree. whistle
no i don't walesflag forever,starman if you like the u.k so much why don't you go and live there with all the other BRAINWASHED CLOWNS.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:08:56 AM
Tottally agree Jamaw.Infact they are the original Britons.
      walesflag   scotlandflag   irelandflag   
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:10:31 AM
I love history! Indeed, the original 'Britons' and probably the only 'true' Britons remaining are the Welsh and Cornish!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:12:26 AM
Once again correct  bravo1  crazydance 
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:12:33 AM
Candy. I note you put the Irish Republican flag there and not the N. Ireland flag! The reason why the Republic made a tri-colour with green for the green land, white for peace and orange to incorporate Ulster, so it is actually a United Ireland flag!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:14:48 AM
 coffeeman
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
It's ok...you can sit down corrected ;-)
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 10, 2011, 09:20:27 AM
I love history! Indeed, the original 'Britons' and probably the only 'true' Britons remaining are the Welsh and Cornish!

CORNISH PEOPLE COME FROM WHERE?
ENGLAND
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 10, 2011, 09:23:37 AM
must go now have a important football game to attend in bangkok.
cannot waste any more valuable time talking about small and trivial matters like the united kingdom or just england burning.
just had a phone call from a mate of mine his got 3000 washing machines going cheap.
UP THE  burirampea
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:25:03 AM
Binnsy, they speak the original  language of the country and like the Welsh are still the only people to do so! The English didn't speak 'English' until the 14th century. The Nobles spoke French, above the Daneline they spoke Norse the others in the South of England spoke a varient of German, the Scots remained Celtic with some in the North East being Norse. Oxford University was formed for the sole reason to establish a 'one' language to incorporate all tounges..the 'Anglo'...English!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:25:48 AM
CORNISH PEOPLE COME FROM WHERE?
Cornwall
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:27:39 AM
with an 'R' Candy. There is quite a strong Cornish independence movement but nothing serious, a load of hippies really. I lived in Devon for over 20 years so I can say that  :)
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 09:30:10 AM
Thank you for your answer. I totally agree with you. Difficult not to. Can't argue with facts.

I like the bit in your previous post " It is a United Kingdom". Good point.

Not sure Mr.Jones would agree. whistle
no i don't walesflag forever,starman if you like the u.k so much why don't you go and live there with all the other BRAINWASHED CLOWNS.

You miss the point yet again Jonesy. I could go, not that I want to, and live in Mid Wales. I would still be living in the UK and my nationality would still read British.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:31:54 AM
When you go to the airport and show your passport they will see you are British. If you say you are from Wales they might think you're from Greenpeace!!!!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 10, 2011, 09:34:40 AM
Much of what I've posted here about countries, flags and indeed language comes from the book The Adventure of English'' by Melvin Bragg. It's about how the language evolved and still is! It's a good read if you're not thick :blink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_English
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Starman on August 10, 2011, 09:36:38 AM
This would be far better discussed in a pub. We seem to all be agreeing with each other. We would have to keep buying each other beers. We could get really pissed. Have to wait for Jonesy to get back from Bangkok.
 bravo1 bravo1 party4
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 09:37:24 AM
Have the riots stopped?   Have they shot them all yet? Suffering my ring.
They're just opportunist robbers and vandals(we know where the vandals
came from don't we?)
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 10, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
If JTR thinks that Wales is such a great place WHY is he not living in the valleys?

 burirampea

Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 10, 2011, 10:02:04 AM
He did buy a holiday home there once.But he found it too hot. walesflag
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Paddyram on August 10, 2011, 05:57:19 PM
Candy. I note you put the Irish Republican flag there and not the N. Ireland flag! The reason why the Republic made a tri-colour with green for the green land, white for peace and orange to incorporate Ulster, so it is actually a United Ireland flag!

Yes, it does.  Which is why I always thought it was stupid watching some loyalists on the TV in the bad old days burning the flag.  it was supposed to symbolise peace between the two main traditions on the island.
The original Irish Flag was green with a gold harp in the centre.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Paddyram on August 10, 2011, 05:58:52 PM
If JTR thinks that Wales is such a great place WHY is he not living in the valleys?

 burirampea




Maybe its the English taxes !!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 10, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
If JTR thinks that Wales is such a great place WHY is he not living in the valleys?

 burirampea




Maybe its the English taxes !!

Taxes and JTR are you sure?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 11, 2011, 07:01:35 AM
Prakonchai Nick

You seem to be very badly informed and very opinionated on a topic you seem to know very little about.
The people in the UK have had the country they live in slowly dismantled over a long period of time to an extent of open boarders and a poor education system leading to an un educated yob culture and getting worse with university fees being out of reach for most I can't say middle class family's because the middle class has been almost wiped out.
We have been stripped of our civil liberties since 9/11 leading us into a police state and the riots in London is known as problem reaction solution same as 9/11 where you create a problem (riot) get a reaction (goyim/general public we need police and army to deal with this and bobs your uncle another step further we go into the police state with the army turned against the tax payer. Not to mention all the damage caused shops having to close pubs already closing because of the smoking ban a manipulated economy where the £ euro and dollar are all about to fail. What will we the goyim/slaves get offered from all this from the Zionist bankers ?
This was written in a book in 1770 called the protocols of the elders of Zion, a 79 page book well worth a few hours of your time.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 11, 2011, 07:13:09 AM
Thank you for your views Mr aderushmer. A Newbie, but I suspect a resurrected member!

I can assure you that I am not badly informed.  I am well aware of the shortcomings of the UK. It has been in decline for decades, not helped by successive governments immigration policies.

Opinionated ---YES. I like anyone else am entitled to my opinion.

The solution is not however gang warfare. These little bastards should be locked up and wherever possible deported. Further punishments, like withdrawing all their social benefits need to be considered. Then they would actually have to get their hands dirty to feed themselves!  They are only making the problems worse. Money will now need to be spent on repairing all the damage caused, so there will be even less for good government spending.

So why do you think I and many others have chosen to leave the failed country?. We got out in time!.

If you haven't already -why not join us?  Nothing to lose!


Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Happylarry on August 11, 2011, 07:24:58 AM
Prakonchai Nick

You seem to be very badly informed and very opinionated on a topic you seem to know very little about.
The people in the UK have had the country they live in slowly dismantled over a long period of time to an extent of open boarders and a poor education system leading to an un educated yob culture and getting worse with university fees being out of reach for most I can't say middle class family's because the middle class has been almost wiped out.
We have been stripped of our civil liberties since 9/11 leading us into a police state and the riots in London is known as problem reaction solution same as 9/11 where you create a problem (riot) get a reaction (goyim/general public we need police and army to deal with this and bobs your uncle another step further we go into the police state with the army turned against the tax payer. Not to mention all the damage caused shops having to close pubs already closing because of the smoking ban a manipulated economy where the £ euro and dollar are all about to fail. What will we the goyim/slaves get offered from all this from the Zionist bankers ?
This was written in a book in 1770 called the protocols of the elders of Zion, a 79 page book well worth a few hours of your time.


What a load of old bollocks !

I hope you manage to retain your balance by having a chip on both shoulders.

Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: garytaffy on August 11, 2011, 08:38:38 AM
Thank you for your views Mr aderushmer. A Newbie, but I suspect a resurrected member!

I can assure you that I am not badly informed.  I am well aware of the shortcomings of the UK. It has been in decline for decades, not helped by successive governments immigration policies.

Opinionated ---YES. I like anyone else am entitled to my opinion.

The solution is not however gang warfare. These little bastards should be locked up and wherever possible deported. Further punishments, like withdrawing all their social benefits need to be considered. Then they would actually have to get their hands dirty to feed themselves!  They are only making the problems worse. Money will now need to be spent on repairing all the damage caused, so there will be even less for good government spending.

So why do you think I and many others have chosen to leave the failed country?. We got out in time!.

If you haven't already -why not join us?  Nothing to lose!



  Wholeheartedly agree with you Nick. As a commentator put it on the radio the other night other countries rise up for liberty and freedom.The Uk riots for i-phones!!!!
Can't wait to escape and join you fulltime
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 11, 2011, 08:46:40 AM
          angry1      Is Ade short for Adolf ?    biggrin1
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 11, 2011, 09:48:13 AM
When you go to the airport and show your passport they will see you are British. If you say you are from Wales they might think you're from Greenpeace!!!!
if you say so some people like myself are not proud of being BRITISH so i don't shout it from the roof top.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: candy on August 11, 2011, 09:52:52 AM
Admin,can you change the name of this topic? The disgraceful behaviour is taking place in ingland not Wales ,Ireland or Scotland.

The authorities are now saying water cannons and rubber bullets are available.What's wrong with real ones?
 
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 11, 2011, 10:13:05 AM
Admin,can you change the name of this topic? The disgraceful behaviour is taking place in ingland not Wales ,Ireland or Scotland.

The authorities are now saying water cannons and rubber bullets are available.What's wrong with real ones?
 

The United Kingdom is a unitary state governed under a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary system, with its seat of government in the capital city of London. It is a country in its own right[10][11] and consists of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.[12]
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 11, 2011, 10:16:30 AM
 character3  character3
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 11, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
Admin,can you change the name of this topic? The disgraceful behaviour is taking place in ingland not Wales ,Ireland or Scotland.

The authorities are now saying water cannons and rubber bullets are available.What's wrong with real ones?
 

The United Kingdom is a unitary state governed under a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary system, with its seat of government in the capital city of London. It is a country in its own right[10][11] and consists of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.[12]
with it's seat of government in the capital city of london which at the moment is on FIRE  redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman redman bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance bananadance
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: binnsy on August 11, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
 character4  Did'nt take long

 character3
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Al. on August 11, 2011, 10:55:14 AM
withdrawing all their social benefits

That's a bit harsh, how will they be able to go to Benidorm this year or keep what pubs are still open in profit if you do that.

Water cannon and rubber bullets are one thing but stopping their benefits  :o do that and the next thing you know they will be emigrating.

They might even decide to come here.

You are a very cold hearted man sir.

Is it just me or does anyone else have a sense of deja vue (Maggie Thatcher).
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 11, 2011, 11:01:44 AM
character4  Did'nt take long

 character3
would have been sooner but i was cooking breakfast thumbup thumbup thumbup thumbup thumbup
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Happylarry on August 11, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
I agree with the riots


Then you should remain there permanently to enjoy them.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 11, 2011, 03:23:54 PM
I agree with the riots


Then you should remain there permanently to enjoy them.

And even join in. Don't forget your hood!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 11, 2011, 06:25:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZziZnamvOFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Av6WYUQQlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb47_BM1Wxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZOhiTGulU
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 11, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
i think most of the peoples comment are way off the mark.
there is a lot of money to be earned out of all this or is everyone against earning money as well.
don't know about you lot but i have had a nice earner all ready.stop thinking with your heart and start thinking with your head. redman
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Daft Ada on August 11, 2011, 07:03:41 PM
Allo

people power
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Alan on August 11, 2011, 07:31:45 PM
JTR.......... Thyese people are REVULTING ! Its not funny and its soooooooo not clever. They now use the excuse of attacking the rich..... So now every shop owner is a rich bastard and all his employies are part of the elite? F*^k sake get real!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on August 11, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
i think most of the peoples comment are way off the mark.
there is a lot of money to be earned out of all this or is everyone against earning money as well.
don't know about you lot but i have had a nice earner all ready.stop thinking with your heart and start thinking with your head. redman


Care to elaborate Jonesey?
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 11, 2011, 07:48:50 PM
i think most of the peoples comment are way off the mark.
there is a lot of money to be earned out of all this or is everyone against earning money as well.
don't know about you lot but i have had a nice earner all ready.stop thinking with your heart and start thinking with your head. redman


Care to elaborate Jonesey?
NO.
sorry phones going again no rest for the wicked bananadance bananadance
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: aderushmer on August 11, 2011, 07:52:23 PM
Nick

You seem to have miss represented me.
I am not in agreement with rioting or looting or terrorism what I am trying to put across to you is my point that people all over the world are starting to become conscious of the fact that terrorism is a Zionist made act to create fear in society so the masses ask for more laws to control themselves while the Zionist cabal make more laws to protect themselves in their quest for global domination.
Now that some people are starting to wake up but probably not yourself another plan is being put into place which is along the same lines which is the UK Riots. Which the mind prisoners are asking for more police and also army on the streets

Also please don't take my point of view personal as I like to hear your thoughts too buddy   
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 11, 2011, 07:58:54 PM
Nick

You seem to have miss represented me.
I am not in agreement with rioting or looting or terrorism what I am trying to put across to you is my point that people all over the world are starting to become conscious of the fact that terrorism is a Zionist made act to create fear in society so the masses ask for more laws to control themselves while the Zionist cabal make more laws to protect themselves in their quest for global domination.
Now that some people are starting to wake up but probably not yourself another plan is being put into place which is along the same lines which is the UK Riots. Which the mind prisoners are asking for more police and also army on the streets

Also please don't take my point of view personal as I like to hear your thoughts too buddy   
Conspiracy!!!!!! jumping8 :o ::) :D
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Admin on August 12, 2011, 09:50:11 AM
OK. That member was banned so I suggest to move on and have a more civilized level of conversation.
It is a serious subject right now there are many protests around the world because of the drop down in the economy and its not only in England, its just that in England it was with much violence, some suggest they are anarchists, but many people even not the violent ones are very frustrated from their own country economy, people are going to work every day and still can't pay the bills.
It is called 'Cost Of Living'.
More people demand their government to change have more Socialism and less Capitalism.
Is it possible? moneysmile
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 10:54:20 AM
Just as well UK has a strong Prime Minister...or talks strong and knows what he's doing....or thinks je knows what he's doing!

Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Happylarry on August 12, 2011, 12:19:46 PM
I admire the way Cameron, effectively, said that he was not going to let human rights stand in the way of clamping down on the riots.

Quite right. Let's see if he has the balls to take on the PC brigade. In my book you sacrifice any human right if you engage in a criminal act.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 12:26:27 PM
Happy Larry, agreed but he also said they'd be kicked out of their council houses and benefits withdrawn which was fairly reactionary and ignorant. This will force them into rental accommodation controlled by criminals and into more crime to get what they want!

This was a problem of our own making allowing this to fester. A recent document release stated over 80% of the Tottenham families have no male role model, or no father add to that 70% have one member of the family with a criminal record!

Whatever the solution it must be dealt with ruthlessly and an example made of those involved.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 12, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
I admire the way Cameron, effectively, said that he was not going to let human rights stand in the way of clamping down on the riots.

Quite right. Let's see if he has the balls to take on the PC brigade. In my book you sacrifice any human right if you engage in a criminal act.
cameron is not above the human rights law thankfully, convicted prisoners are going to be allowed to vote.
why because the european court of human rights said so,they may be criminals but they are still human.and the british government will be breaking the law if they don't conform to what the european court has said.
we all have to abide by the law even GOVERNMENTS.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Happylarry on August 12, 2011, 12:58:24 PM
Happy Larry, agreed but he also said they'd be kicked out of their council houses and benefits withdrawn which was fairly reactionary and ignorant. This will force them into rental accommodation controlled by criminals and into more crime to get what they want!

This was a problem of our own making allowing this to fester. A recent document release stated over 80% of the Tottenham families have no male role model, or no father add to that 70% have one member of the family with a criminal record!

Whatever the solution it must be dealt with ruthlessly and an example made of those involved.

jamie,

I wouldn't disagree with anything you have said. I have no desire to see a shift to the far right but I am pissed off with all the pandering to left-wing do-gooders, who no f*ing good at all.

I don't think any government has the ability to solve all the ills that have beset the UK  (England for the Celtic nationalists!). However, the sooner one starts to dismantle some of the more damaging rules and regulations the better. And, yes, let's start with immigration. 
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 01:03:26 PM
Totally agree with you Larry. It's both left and right, too easy under left and too punitive under right (ok I'm generalising) but this is reactive!

Cameron has stated he aims to learn from the Scottish police. The Strathclyde police learned from the LA police after the LA riots and they handle 6 Old Firm (Rangers V Celtic) games per year and that's not easy. Such crowd control crimes are down in Scotland. It's a pity they didn't take advice from specially trained police in Scotland before this? Everything seems to be re-active and not pro-active!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 01:04:22 PM
forgot the link to the scottish herald...

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/cameron-vows-to-learn-from-scotland-over-riots-1.1117210
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Two interesting points from Cameron's speech..

1. The police told him they got their tactics wrong and approached as crowd control NOT a riot.
2. They were too soft being mindful of the constant critisisms from left-wing Councils over 'stop and search' tactics.

Those left-wing Councils are now complaining that businesses were not protected by police!

I can only give credit to the police for admitting to an error, for Cameron for making it public.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: jones the rice on August 12, 2011, 01:17:31 PM
Two interesting points from Cameron's speech..

1. The police told him they got their tactics wrong and approached as crowd control NOT a riot.
2. They were too soft being mindful of the constant critisisms from left-wing Councils over 'stop and search' tactics.

Those left-wing Councils are now complaining that businesses were not protected by police!

I can only give credit to the police for admitting to an error, for Cameron for making it public.
i can think of a few other things we can give the police and cameron,but it certainly would not be CREDIT.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Jamaw on August 12, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
Jones. I wouldn't vote for him but putting petty party politics aside..credit where it's due!
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: Happylarry on August 12, 2011, 02:31:33 PM
Jones. I wouldn't vote for him but putting petty party politics aside..credit where it's due!


I didn't particularly like Thatcher or Blair - but I admired some of what each of them did.


Back to judging people on what they do and not what their backgrounds are.
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: roger on August 13, 2011, 12:32:16 AM
a failed country for sure nick, i couldnt agree more
Title: Re: BRITISH RIOTS
Post by: silver on August 13, 2011, 02:39:36 AM
THE RIOTERS PRAYER
Our father, who art in prison, my mum knows not his name, thy Riots come, read it in the sun, in Birmingham , as it is in London, give us this day our Welfare bread & forgive us our looting, as we're happy to loot those who defend stuff against us, lead us not into employment but deliver us free housing, for thine is the teles, the Burberry & the Barcardi, forever and ever...Inn it !!!!