World Cup Rugby 2011 New Zealand.i hope england lose every game they play in the world cup,the best thing in the world is to see this nation lose.
I know there are a lot of rugby fans out there so I thought it time ,as it's only just over a month away, to start this topic.
First controversial topic is england wearing a black strip.Even those who don't follow the sport that closely know that black is and always will be for the All Blacks.
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I get the feeling that Mr. Jones is going to be disappointed. Looks like England and New Zealand are going to be the sides to beat.i agree with you starman on NEW ZEALAND but as for england not so sure,if you look back to the six nations,IRELAND beat england very easy.
I personally think that New Zealand will end their long wait for a second title.
I too would love to see Wales win it.Watching Shane Williams dancing around the opposition is "music to the ear". However being a Wales fan you always know that they are going to mess up..........I still have nightmares about Samoa, Fiji :oto early to start making predictions on who's going to win.
What does the sporting oracle predict? do say oh wise one?
I get the feeling that Mr. Jones is going to be disappointed. Looks like England and New Zealand are going to be the sides to beat.i agree with you starman on NEW ZEALAND but as for england not so sure,if you look back to the six nations,IRELAND beat england very easy.
I personally think that New Zealand will end their long wait for a second title.
i assume you are english and for that i truly feel sorry for you,but you should not run away with the idea that it's only going to be a two horse race.
i think england will do ok,but as a supporter of england you must admit that your country in sport seems to fade away when you are approaching the winning line,i mean look at the last world cup of football,england was the laughing stock of the world.
still i hope we all enjoy the rugby and may the best team win,as long as it's not england.
walesflag forever in our hearts.
I get the feeling that Mr. Jones is going to be disappointed. Looks like England and New Zealand are going to be the sides to beat.i agree with you starman on NEW ZEALAND but as for england not so sure,if you look back to the six nations,IRELAND beat england very easy.
I personally think that New Zealand will end their long wait for a second title.
i assume you are english and for that i truly feel sorry for you,but you should not run away with the idea that it's only going to be a two horse race.
i think england will do ok,but as a supporter of england you must admit that your country in sport seems to fade away when you are approaching the winning line,i mean look at the last world cup of football,england was the laughing stock of the world.
still i hope we all enjoy the rugby and may the best team win,as long as it's not england.
walesflag forever in our hearts.
i believe your original statement was about NEW ZEALAND and england,i just gave my opinion on what you said,at no time did i suggest WALES would win anything,and did not mention any history of the great country of WALES,in any specify sporting advents.I get the feeling that Mr. Jones is going to be disappointed. Looks like England and New Zealand are going to be the sides to beat.i agree with you starman on NEW ZEALAND but as for england not so sure,if you look back to the six nations,IRELAND beat england very easy.
I personally think that New Zealand will end their long wait for a second title.
i assume you are english and for that i truly feel sorry for you,but you should not run away with the idea that it's only going to be a two horse race.
i think england will do ok,but as a supporter of england you must admit that your country in sport seems to fade away when you are approaching the winning line,i mean look at the last world cup of football,england was the laughing stock of the world.
still i hope we all enjoy the rugby and may the best team win,as long as it's not england.
walesflag forever in our hearts.
How many football world cup wins for Wales? How many times have Wales qualified? Rugby world cup wins? Lost finals? Semi final appearances?
i already said i quote(i think england will do ok)and i also said that NEW ZEALAND will do well possible winners.I get the feeling that Mr. Jones is going to be disappointed. Looks like England and New Zealand are going to be the sides to beat.i agree with you starman on NEW ZEALAND but as for england not so sure,if you look back to the six nations,IRELAND beat england very easy.
I personally think that New Zealand will end their long wait for a second title.
i assume you are english and for that i truly feel sorry for you,but you should not run away with the idea that it's only going to be a two horse race.
i think england will do ok,but as a supporter of england you must admit that your country in sport seems to fade away when you are approaching the winning line,i mean look at the last world cup of football,england was the laughing stock of the world.
still i hope we all enjoy the rugby and may the best team win,as long as it's not england.
walesflag forever in our hearts.
I don't think you have to be English to realise that England are the most consistent and hard to beat rugby team in the Northern Hemisphere. The results speak for themselves. I do think that England will do well. I also believe that the time is now right for New Zealand. I think jonestherice has some other reasons for his comments and not just sporting ones.
How many football world cup wins for Wales? How many times have Wales qualified? Rugby world cup wins? Lost finals? Semi final appearances?how many football world cups wins for WALES.
I'm sure you can tell us
Don't need a computer to count to zero. bananadance
Well said Starman, Mr Jones this topic is about RUGBY !, so can we please stick to Rugby. But I would just like to say , Starman (1966 Football World Cup GERMANY V GERMANY , GERMANY WON THE WORLD CUP ! spot1 bananadance :D thumbupi agree 100% GERMANY should have won the 1966 world cup,that 3rd english goal should never have been given,and then THE GREAT GERMAN team would have gone on and crushed the crumbling english.
Come on now guys lets stick to the topic Rugby World Cup. We have an exciting few months ahead starting on August 6th with the first back to back England v Wales pre world cup warm up games. I also think France are worth a mention and also the Aussies will be going for it as they seemed to recover well last weekend after Samoa gave them a bit of a seeing to the previous week. Now let us not forget Ireland there is a lot of experience there and it will be a bit like England 8 years ago with a number of great players coming to the end of their careears after this World Cup. Our good friends the Welsh can play some of the most exciting rugby but it just depends if they get off the bus (or in this case the plane) Anyway lets look forward and enjoy and stay with the topic and the real rugby issues.well said agree with all you say.
Can't wait!!!
ingland will be playing in black for the Wales game. character2
Come on now guys lets stick to the topic Rugby World Cup. We have an exciting few months ahead starting on August 6th with the first back to back England v Wales pre world cup warm up games. I also think France are worth a mention and also the Aussies will be going for it as they seemed to recover well last weekend after Samoa gave them a bit of a seeing to the previous week. Now let us not forget Ireland there is a lot of experience there and it will be a bit like England 8 years ago with a number of great players coming to the end of their careears after this World Cup. Our good friends the Welsh can play some of the most exciting rugby but it just depends if they get off the bus (or in this case the plane) Anyway lets look forward and enjoy and stay with the topic and the real rugby issues.
Can't wait!!!
Come on now guys lets stick to the topic Rugby World Cup. We have an exciting few months ahead starting on August 6th with the first back to back England v Wales pre world cup warm up games. I also think France are worth a mention and also the Aussies will be going for it as they seemed to recover well last weekend after Samoa gave them a bit of a seeing to the previous week. Now let us not forget Ireland there is a lot of experience there and it will be a bit like England 8 years ago with a number of great players coming to the end of their careears after this World Cup. Our good friends the Welsh can play some of the most exciting rugby but it just depends if they get off the bus (or in this case the plane) Anyway lets look forward and enjoy and stay with the topic and the real rugby issues.
Can't wait!!!
I agree with you too Downtime. Keep it on the rugby.
It's just that this obsession with England failure by the Welsh, as highlighted by jonestherice, is laughable. They even have a song "As long as we beat the English" Norrow mindedness to the extreme.
Mr Jones is coming across as a right 'Pirck',,,,,should have stayed supporting the Hammers!!!Was he there last Saturday??
Mr Jones is coming across as a right 'Pirck',,,,,should have stayed supporting the Hammers!!!if you are going to call me a pirck then please call me a WELSH pirck,don't want people thinking i am a english pirck,would not be able to sleep at night.
Not sure about Ireland. They have never really shown their potential at world cups, being the only country from the old 5 nations never to have made the semis.no us WELSH are just norrow minded.555
Would be nice to see some of their old timers go out at the top. I would imagine that among 6 nations supporters Ireland would be most peoples' "2nd" team.
Except for Mr.Jones who obviously has a soft spot for England!!!
Interesting that New Zealand and France are in the same group with France being one of only 3 teams to have beaten New Zealand in the World Cup.
The chances are that whoever loses the New Zealand v France game will play England in the quarters.
A lot to play for. England fans will be watching closely too as England have never beaten New Zealand in a World Cup.
Interesting that New Zealand and France are in the same group with France being one of only 3 teams to have beaten New Zealand in the World Cup.
The chances are that whoever loses the New Zealand v France game will play England in the quarters.
A lot to play for. England fans will be watching closely too as England have never beaten New Zealand in a World Cup.
That's if angleland get that far walesflag
I quite like a bit of rugby. I was in Bangkok a few years back when the 7s was on. Prefer the 15man version though. Does anyone know if it will be on TV?
character4 I have just had a look at the odds for the World Cup and those boys from the valleys are 50/1 is this a mistake? :D :D :DNo its not a mistake!!
character4 I have just had a look at the odds for the World Cup and those boys from the valleys are 50/1 is this a mistake? :D :D :DNo its not a mistake!!
you english you are a strange breed,of course that what it is your breed'character4 I have just had a look at the odds for the World Cup and those boys from the valleys are 50/1 is this a mistake? :D :D :DNo its not a mistake!!
Maybe to get out of there group?
Still tring to keep this topic on track. England captain had his Royal wedding today at Canongate Kirk Edinburgh attended by the Queen , Duke of Edinburgh William and Kate plus a bunch of his rugby pals. Martin Johnson's expected announcement has been delayed but he confirmed that several players have been released from his 45 man squad following the trial match at the Scoop on Thursday.royal wedding another half breed getting married,
It will be very interesting to see the selection for next Saturdays England v Wales warm up game and also Ireland and France.
Still tring to keep this topic on track. England captain had his Royal wedding today at Canongate Kirk Edinburgh attended by the Queen , Duke of Edinburgh William and Kate plus a bunch of his rugby pals. Martin Johnson's expected announcement has been delayed but he confirmed that several players have been released from his 45 man squad following the trial match at the Scoop on Thursday.royal wedding another half breed getting married,
It will be very interesting to see the selection for next Saturdays England v Wales warm up game and also Ireland and France.
see the miserable old cow was there,a smile would not hurt the old bag.
she is no queen of mine,Still tring to keep this topic on track. England captain had his Royal wedding today at Canongate Kirk Edinburgh attended by the Queen , Duke of Edinburgh William and Kate plus a bunch of his rugby pals. Martin Johnson's expected announcement has been delayed but he confirmed that several players have been released from his 45 man squad following the trial match at the Scoop on Thursday.royal wedding another half breed getting married,
It will be very interesting to see the selection for next Saturdays England v Wales warm up game and also Ireland and France.
see the miserable old cow was there,a smile would not hurt the old bag.
Thats no way to talk about your Queen.
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In addition to the pre world cup England v Wales game at Twickenham this Saturday we also have Scotland v Ireland at Murrayfield.good luck to WALES against the SAESNEG.
But Brian O'Driscoll is "unlikely" to feature in the first two World Cup warm-up matches as he is nursing a shoulder/neck injury. But the greatest injury concerns in Declan Kidney's camp are Stephen Ferris and Gordon D'Arcy who were described yesterday as being in "a race against time"
France will only play two warm-up games both against Ireland the first will be on Saturday 13 August.
In addition to the pre world cup England v Wales game at Twickenham this Saturday we also have Scotland v Ireland at Murrayfield.good luck to WALES against the SAESNEG.
But Brian O'Driscoll is "unlikely" to feature in the first two World Cup warm-up matches as he is nursing a shoulder/neck injury. But the greatest injury concerns in Declan Kidney's camp are Stephen Ferris and Gordon D'Arcy who were described yesterday as being in "a race against time"
France will only play two warm-up games both against Ireland the first will be on Saturday 13 August.
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not spelt it wrong saesneg means english not englandIn addition to the pre world cup England v Wales game at Twickenham this Saturday we also have Scotland v Ireland at Murrayfield.good luck to WALES against the SAESNEG.
But Brian O'Driscoll is "unlikely" to feature in the first two World Cup warm-up matches as he is nursing a shoulder/neck injury. But the greatest injury concerns in Declan Kidney's camp are Stephen Ferris and Gordon D'Arcy who were described yesterday as being in "a race against time"
France will only play two warm-up games both against Ireland the first will be on Saturday 13 August.
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Thank you for finally referring to England using capital letters even if you have spelt it wrong.
As far as I am aware the way you spelt it means English language. To mean English the people it needs to be spelt with an "i". Saesnig.as far as i know starman you can spell it with a I or an E up to you as they say in this part of the world walesflag
Why are two english people arguing over Welsh spelling swordfighti am not english,and do not insult me by saying i am thank you walesflag forever
Just to confuse the Issue more, in Irish it's spelt: Sasanaigha word i will remember for the future thumbup
I can think of a couple of other words you may like to remember for the future!!!Just to confuse the Issue more, in Irish it's spelt: Sasanaigha word i will remember for the future thumbup
and what might they beI can think of a couple of other words you may like to remember for the future!!!Just to confuse the Issue more, in Irish it's spelt: Sasanaigha word i will remember for the future thumbup
and what might they beI can think of a couple of other words you may like to remember for the future!!!Just to confuse the Issue more, in Irish it's spelt: Sasanaigha word i will remember for the future thumbup
who do you mean the WELSH or the IRISH? walesflag irelandflagand what might they beI can think of a couple of other words you may like to remember for the future!!!Just to confuse the Issue more, in Irish it's spelt: Sasanaigha word i will remember for the future thumbup
WORLD CHAMPIONS ;-)
england 23 v WALES 19
good game enjoyable to watch,could have gone either way at the end,i think WALES should have won the game certainly finished the game the strongest,but with england they do like to play that negative kicking game,but as we all know rugby is all about tries.
next week hope to see another good game and i think we will see a WELSH victory.
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well that's another way you can look at it bananadance crazydance thumbup party2england 23 v WALES 19
good game enjoyable to watch,could have gone either way at the end,i think WALES should have won the game certainly finished the game the strongest,but with england they do like to play that negative kicking game,but as we all know rugby is all about tries.
next week hope to see another good game and i think we will see a WELSH victory.
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I thought it was about scoring more points than your opponent. :D :D :D bananadance bananadance bananadance mhihi mhihi mhihi
Binnsy ,sometimes you can defy logic,,,,,,,,,,Amazing party4 thumbupengland 23 v WALES 19
good game enjoyable to watch,could have gone either way at the end,i think WALES should have won the game certainly finished the game the strongest,but with england they do like to play that negative kicking game,but as we all know rugby is all about tries.
next week hope to see another good game and i think we will see a WELSH victory.
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I thought it was about scoring more points than your opponent. :D :D :D bananadance bananadance bananadance mhihi mhihi mhihi
I can see wales winning next week.Only if they play themselves!!
I can see wales winning next week.
I can see wales winning next week.Only if they play themselves!!
LOOKS LIKE 4 WINS THENWALES' WORLD CUP FIXTURES
walesflag•v South Africa: 11 Sept, Wellington
walesflag•v Samoa: 18 Sept, Hamilton
walesflag•v Namibia: 26 Sept, New Plymouth
walesflag•v Fiji: 02 Oct, Hamilton
Another great rugby weekend coming up.would like to see new zealand win against south africa
Tri Nations
South Africa v New Zealand at Port Elizabeth KO 1605 BST
World Cup warm-ups
Wales v Argentina at Millennium Stadium KO 1430 BST
Then we have Irish captain Brian O'Driscoll back from injury to lead his team.
Ireland v France at Dublin KO 1700 BST
Scotland v Italy at Murrayfield KO 1700 BST
The English are having a rest this weekend
Come on the Celts!!
WALES 16 SOUTH AFRICA 17. Wales full-back James Hook claims he was denied a successful penalty kick which could have cost Wales an opening World Cup win over South Africa.their was nothing wrong with the kick the only man in the world that did not see the ball go through the posts,was the english cheating clown standing on the pitch with a white shirt on.an absolute disgrace that this official was given this game,in my honest opinion this official should be kicked out of top flight rugby and sent home.
Hook's 14th-minute shot in Wales' 17-16 defeat sailed high above the posts and looked as it may have gone over.
But assistant referees Vinny Munro and George Clancy did not signal a score and referee Wayne Barnes agreed.
"Wayne Barnes was in the same position as me so surely he's seen what I've seen," chairhit said Hook.
"I thought it went over."
Barnes did not to refer the disputed penalty to television match official (TMO) Matt Goddard although Hook believes the ENGLISH ! official should have done so.
IRB RULE 6.A.6aContinue reading the main story
The [television match] official may be consulted in relation to the success or otherwise of kicks at goal
"I suppose that would have been the best thing to do," said Hook.
The 26-year-old, who kicked 11 points in Wales' defeat by the defending champions in Wellington, was so confident after striking the shot that he turned away in the belief he had added another three points.
"Myself and the kicking coach [Neil Jenkins] said it was over, but what can you do?
"I was running back because I thought it was over so if I was in any doubt I would have stayed there and watched it go over.
"They [Hook's Welsh team-mates] thought it was over so they were running back as well.
"It was one of those things that he didn't give it and we lost by a point. So it's as simple as that."
And Wales coach Warren Gatland REVEALED SPRINGBOK'S full back FRANS STEYN HAD TOLD THE WELSH CAMP THAT HOOK'S KICK SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN !?.
Interview: BBC pundit Jonathan Davies
"I thought it was interesting at half-time when we went in the tunnel and we were saying we thought the kick was over," said Gatland.
"And Frans Steyn said, 'yeah, I thought it was over as well'.
"That is the drama of sport. You take the good with the bad. Good sides take disappointment on the chin and they front up up next week."
Wales captain Sam Warburton also asked Barnes about going to Australian TMO Goddard during a break in play a couple of minutes later, but by that stage it was too late.
"The angle I was at when he took it, I couldn't tell," said the flanker.
"So we just cracked on as normal and I don't think many of the boys could tell but afterwards it looked like on TV that it went over.
"Even if it had been given, it might have changed the mindset of the South Africans, and they could have come back.
"It was in the first half, and there was still 60-odd minutes to go, so you can't blame the game on that. It's hard to say what would have happened."
And Wales centre Jonathan Davies added: "We have heard whispers that it went over. WELL DONE WALES redman PROND TO BE WELSH !!! redman redman redman
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WALES 16 SOUTH AFRICA 17. Wales full-back James Hook claims he was denied a successful penalty kick which could have cost Wales an opening World Cup win over South Africa.their was nothing wrong with the kick the only man in the world that did not see the ball go through the posts,was the english cheating clown standing on the pitch with a white shirt on.an absolute disgrace that this official was given this game,in my honest opinion this official should be kicked out of top flight rugby and sent home.
Hook's 14th-minute shot in Wales' 17-16 defeat sailed high above the posts and looked as it may have gone over.
But assistant referees Vinny Munro and George Clancy did not signal a score and referee Wayne Barnes agreed.
"Wayne Barnes was in the same position as me so surely he's seen what I've seen," chairhit said Hook.
"I thought it went over."
Barnes did not to refer the disputed penalty to television match official (TMO) Matt Goddard although Hook believes the ENGLISH ! official should have done so.
IRB RULE 6.A.6aContinue reading the main story
The [television match] official may be consulted in relation to the success or otherwise of kicks at goal
"I suppose that would have been the best thing to do," said Hook.
The 26-year-old, who kicked 11 points in Wales' defeat by the defending champions in Wellington, was so confident after striking the shot that he turned away in the belief he had added another three points.
"Myself and the kicking coach [Neil Jenkins] said it was over, but what can you do?
"I was running back because I thought it was over so if I was in any doubt I would have stayed there and watched it go over.
"They [Hook's Welsh team-mates] thought it was over so they were running back as well.
"It was one of those things that he didn't give it and we lost by a point. So it's as simple as that."
And Wales coach Warren Gatland REVEALED SPRINGBOK'S full back FRANS STEYN HAD TOLD THE WELSH CAMP THAT HOOK'S KICK SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN !?.
Interview: BBC pundit Jonathan Davies
"I thought it was interesting at half-time when we went in the tunnel and we were saying we thought the kick was over," said Gatland.
"And Frans Steyn said, 'yeah, I thought it was over as well'.
"That is the drama of sport. You take the good with the bad. Good sides take disappointment on the chin and they front up up next week."
Wales captain Sam Warburton also asked Barnes about going to Australian TMO Goddard during a break in play a couple of minutes later, but by that stage it was too late.
"The angle I was at when he took it, I couldn't tell," said the flanker.
"So we just cracked on as normal and I don't think many of the boys could tell but afterwards it looked like on TV that it went over.
"Even if it had been given, it might have changed the mindset of the South Africans, and they could have come back.
"It was in the first half, and there was still 60-odd minutes to go, so you can't blame the game on that. It's hard to say what would have happened."
And Wales centre Jonathan Davies added: "We have heard whispers that it went over. WELL DONE WALES redman PROND TO BE WELSH !!! redman redman redman
this error could see wales having to play australia in the next round,instead of an easier opponent. wildman
Two great games yesterday.Well done to the Irish.Unfortunately we have to meet each other in the quarters.It would have been better if we played the saes or the frogs .That way we would have both progressed to the next round. walesflag irelandflag
P.S. allez les bleus franceflag
the Wales V Ireland match this weekend should be a great one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-qzq8AQ3P4U#t=0s
Best of luck to our Celtic cousins on Saturday spot1 redman party2 redbite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-qzq8AQ3P4U#t=0s
Best of luck to our Celtic cousins on Saturday spot1 redman party2 redbite
1 (1) England 5 4 0 1 132 81 51 13 8
2 (3) France 5 3 0 2 117 91 26 10 6
3 (4) Ireland 5 3 0 2 93 81 12 10 6
4 (2) Wales 5 3 0 2 95 89 6 6 6
And?
For our Celtic cousins.The Irish are the Welsh that could swim. irelandflag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5H4t1kDG1Mg#t=8s