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Title: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Admin on April 11, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mITHCW_DxD8#ws)
11th April 2011 : An answer to "France's burqa ban" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCq4K86ekw#)
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: nookiebear on April 11, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
Its no longer 'impending',,,its now the Law
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 11, 2011, 03:05:45 PM
Its no longer 'impending',,,its now the Law

And not before time. Pity UK does not have similar laws. Cow tow to all the bloody immigrants at the natives expense!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: isanbirder on April 11, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
It's easy enough to enforce... but they might have Muslims rioting.  IMO, every country should impose such laws for security purposes, at least until the Islamic terrorists stop terorising!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: nookiebear on April 11, 2011, 06:38:54 PM
Its no longer 'impending',,,its now the Law

And not before time. Pity UK does not have similar laws. Cow tow to all the bloody immigrants at the natives expense!
It will never get voted in .just look at the amount of baboons that are MP's
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: isanbirder on April 12, 2011, 06:14:18 AM
It's easy enough to enforce... but they might have Muslims rioting.  IMO, every country should impose such laws for security purposes, at least until the Islamic terrorists stop terorising!

A few women have been taken to a police station and detained a few hours, let off the 150 euros fine this time with a warning.
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 12, 2011, 06:38:35 AM

It's easy enough to enforce... but they might have Muslims rioting.  IMO, every country should impose such laws for security purposes, at least until the Islamic terrorists stop terorising!

If we foreigners riot in Thailand we are deported. So it should be in every country with non natives!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Dave the Dude on April 12, 2011, 07:07:46 AM
Have you not seen that uTube about the street of Paris being regularly blocked for 'in street' prayer meetings. People cannot get out of their own homes/ into shops during this time. This is nothing to do with racism or religion

Is there no such thing as public disorder laws anymore????
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: den Buut on April 12, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
In the Netherlands judges already used parts of the sharia (Islamic law) to arrange divorces between Muslims, this means the women get nothing and have nothing to say about the children, that's the Islamisation of Europe. screwy
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: mike on April 12, 2011, 04:46:31 PM
It seems that at least one person has been fined €150.

Article in French ....

http://www.liberation.fr/societe/01012331203-voile-integral-une-femme-verbalisee-dans-les-yvelines (http://www.liberation.fr/societe/01012331203-voile-integral-une-femme-verbalisee-dans-les-yvelines)

 
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: isanbirder on April 12, 2011, 06:34:58 PM
Unable to open the article (domain name wrong?).  Neanmoins, tres bien!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: manupete on April 12, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
isanbirder, the above link opened and translated for you  :)

Full Sail: a woman verbalized, another arrested (http://www.liberation.fr/societe/01012331203-voile-integral-une-femme-verbalisee-dans-les-yvelines)

Since Monday, wearing the niqab or the burqa is no longer allowed in public places

This morning, a fully veiled woman has been arrested in the Rue Saint-Denis. She was taken to the post after he refused to reveal itself on the highway.

She removed her niqab at the police and said she was not forced to wear headscarves, "said a police source in Saint-Denis, stressing that such a constraint is now a crime.

A reminder of the law has been notified in writing and the police officers explained the new law into effect before the police let him leave, "said this source.

We learned this morning, another woman was verbalized Monday afternoon at Les Mureaux (Yvelines) for violating the law prohibiting the wearing of the veil, which came into force on the same day.

The young woman was controlled "without incident" in a mall around 17:30. Officials have fined him 150 euros.

Since Monday, wearing the niqab or the burqa is no longer allowed on the streets, public parks, railway stations, shops or town halls, under the law of 11 October 2010 prohibiting the concealment of the face.

This controversial law has been sharply critical of some of the Muslim community, some political figures, and the Union of Police Commissioners, whose Secretary General, Manuel Roux, said Monday it would " extremely difficult to apply "and" extremely poorly enforced. "

The Interior Minister, Claude Gueant, for its part warned that the law "will be respected," even if its application is difficult. "The police and gendarmerie are there to enforce the law and they enforce the law," he said Monday on the sidelines of a shift in Luxembourg ..
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: isanbirder on April 13, 2011, 06:23:39 AM
Thanks, Manupete.
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 13, 2011, 06:34:06 AM
Reading Manupete's translation, suggests that she is a he -but Manupete is not allowed to refer to such matters!  :D :D :D

It is of course accepted that it is likely a Google translation.
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: manupete on April 13, 2011, 08:18:15 AM
Reading Manupete's translation, suggests that she is a he -but Manupete is not allowed to refer to such matters!  :D :D :D

It is of course accepted that it is likely a Google translation.
Yes Nick,Google translate (http://translate.google.com/#fr|en|) is just a tool.Lets hope she didn't have one  :blink:
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: nookiebear on April 13, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
Could be post-op!!!!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 13, 2011, 09:55:22 AM
Why pussyfoot around with them. If they break the law, Police Officers should be instructed to "disburqa" them there and then. Shame the bastards! Then drag them off to the police Station, fine them and burn the burqa. And double the fine for each subsequent offence!

People might then get to see if they are a he or a she, and whether they are on any wanted photos!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Admin on April 13, 2011, 09:59:32 AM
Why pussyfoot around with them. If they break the law, Police Officers should be instructed to "disburqa" them there and then. Shame the bastards! Then drag them off to the police Station, fine them and burn the burqa. And double the fine for each subsequent offence!

People might then get to see if they are a he or a she, and whether they are on any wanted photos!
Don't you think its a little bit too harsh action?!.......... confused4
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on April 13, 2011, 10:28:33 AM
Why pussyfoot around with them. If they break the law, Police Officers should be instructed to "disburqa" them there and then. Shame the bastards! Then drag them off to the police Station, fine them and burn the burqa. And double the fine for each subsequent offence!

People might then get to see if they are a he or a she, and whether they are on any wanted photos!
Don't you think its a little bit too harsh action?!.......... confused4

No Admin I don't.

I do not agree with many laws made by governments, Thailand and the UK included. However, if such laws exist, then I believe they must be rigorously enforced. Otherwise why waste politicians time and taxpayers money. There are reasons for most laws, often beyond the ordinary persons comprehension.

Isn't this what happens mainly in Thailand?  Laws are passed but rarely enforced -or provide an opening for corrupt Police to extract yet more money from law breakers.

If gambling were allowed in Thailand, just think how much money the government could rake in -perhaps they could subsidise petrol. But whilst it is illegal, virtually every town and numerous villages operate casinos without problem by paying off Police, senior amphur officials and others.  I know of one near me where 100,000bt is paid  every month! And there is an even bigger one near you Admin!
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: isanbirder on April 13, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
I agree with Nick that the law should be enforced, though I think ripping the burqas off in public is a bit over the top.  Take them to the police station, remove the burqa, collect the 150 euros, and send them home sans burqa.  Make them waste a few hours too.
Title: Re: How Will France Enforce Impending Burqa Ban?
Post by: manupete on April 13, 2011, 06:13:42 PM
The story below is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious.


Saudi Arabia introduces beret ban (http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i94288)

Two Frenchmen were arrested today in Mecca, Saudi Arabia for wearing berets in a local park. The repressive religious Saudi regime recently introduced laws which forbid public displays of Frenchness.

As well as the beret ban, it is also illegal to wear a stripey vest or a string of onions around one's neck, or to be in possession of an outrageously Gallic moustache.

The ban follows strong anti-French feelings in much of the Arab world, where French people are seen to be open-minded, free-thinking, and to refuse to follow the strict rules which govern the rest of society.

One Saudi citizen said, "They come over here with their garlicky breath, drinking their fine wines and philosophising loudly. Recently a boulangerie opened near me, and 5 times a day now I hear the call for croissants. Why can't they lock themselves in the house and live in fear like the rest of us?"
Saudi Arabia is also considering a complete ban on Germans.