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Hi F1 Bums
Well I have got everything booked for OZ GP and getting excited! Just done a check on my Hotel and it is on King street. Another report on the area says it is the place to go after dark if you want to get beaten up. Oh dear!
But what Ding Dong decided to rename the new Campos team " Hispanic Racing Team". HRT for short confused4
TBWG sawadi
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The full 2010 Formula 1 entry list
1 Jenson BUTTON (GBR) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES (GB)
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GBR) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES (GB)
3 Michael SCHUMACHER (D) MERCEDES GP PETRONAS FORMULA ONE TEAM
4 Nico ROSBERG (D) MERCEDES GP PETRONAS FORMULA ONE TEAM
5 Sebastian VETTEL (DEU) RED BULL RACING (AUT)
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING (AUT)
7 Felipe MASSA (BRA) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO (I)
8 Fernando ALONSO (ESP) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO (I)
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BRA) AT&T WILLIAMS (GB)
10 Nico HÃœLKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS (GB)
11 Robert KUBICA (POL) RENAULT F1 TEAM (FRA)
12 Vitaly PETROV (RUS) RENAULT F1 TEAM (FRA)
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM (IND)
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM (IND)
16 Sébastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO (I)
17 Jaime ALGUERSUARI (ESP) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO (I)
18 Jarno TRULLI (I) LOTUS RACING (MAL)
19 Heikki KOVALAINEN (FIN) LOTUS RACING (MAL)
20 TBA HRT F1 TEAM (ESP)
21 Bruno SENNA (BRA) HRT F1 TEAM (ESP)
22 Pedro DE LA ROSA (ESP) BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM (CH)
23 Kamui KOBAYASHI (J) BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM (CH)
24 Timo GLOCK (DEU) VIRGIN RACING (GB)
25 Luca DI GRASSI (BRA) VIRGIN RACING (GB)
Note: The USF1 Team have indicated that they will not be in a position to participate in 2010.
TBWG sawadi
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Hi F1 Bums
Well I have got everything booked for OZ GP and getting excited! Just done a check on my Hotel and it is on King street. Another report on the area says it is the place to go after dark if you want to get beaten up. Oh dear!
But what Ding Dong decided to rename the new Campos team " Hispanic Racing Team". HRT for short confused4
TBWG sawadi
Well the last seat goes to ~~~~
Chandhok announced as HRT driver
Karun ChandhokKarun Chandhok has been confirmed at the new HRT Formula 1 team, ahead of its official presentation in Spain today.
Chandhok will be presented to the public at the Murcia unveiling, which is set to confirm the team's new identity and its plans for 2010.
Colin Kolles, HRT's team principal, said: "I am very pleased to use the Murcia site to officially unveil our car livery today. We also complete the driver's team line-up with the Indian Karun Chandhok at the wheel of the car for our first ever season.
"We have been very impressed with Karun's performance in GP2. India is a great country. It will be great for the sport to have an Indian driver on the grid for the first Indian Grand Prix. Murcia is part of the roots of the team.
"Everything is now in place after an impossible race against time to register the team's name and I truly believe that we have an excellent platform to build on and move forward for a strong 2010 performance. Now, we need to work together. We need to learn together and keep developing as a team."
Jose Ramon Carabantes, the team chairman, added: "The new HRT F1 Team, Hispania Racing F1 Team is born in Murcia. I am proud to welcome you in Murcia where the team has its roots and to have given to my country the pride of the first ever Spanish Formula 1 team.
"The name of the team contains the word Hispania, which is not only the name of one of my companies, but Hispania was also the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula. That reflects now our team's new identity. 2010 will be a major debut for the team and drivers at the wheel of our HRT F1 Team car."
Keep taking the tablets! hahaha
TBWG sawadi
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
I watched it......Sorry I was bored to tears
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
I watched it......Sorry I was bored to tears
Why would you be watching something that bores you to tears? I would have changed channels long before tears developed.
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
I watched it......Sorry I was bored to tears
Why would you be watching something that bores you to tears? I would have changed channels long before tears developed.
As it was the first race of this new season I was interested to see how the new regulations would work out,,,Sadly it seems to have made it a far less intersting sport to watch
The cricket had finished.....The football hadn't started
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
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Hi Bums
Well as the forum F1 pundit I would like to give all of you the benefit of my extremely limited and biased F1 knowledge. hahaha
However I should admit that I unashamedly support Brit Drivers plus The Williams Team and my first love Lotus, I go back to the Hill/Clarke days when racing drivers were real men and sported dashing moustaches confused4 Well Graham Hill anyway!
But first of all credit where credit is due... I watched the coverage at Paddy's Irish bar and was astounded to see BBC coverage with Brundle et al commentating. However, even he could not liven up this boring sporting spectactular. How can you spend billions of dollars and end up with such a mediocre event.. ah well spose most of it goes in Bernies Bin!
I am pleased to say that so far my predictions have been spot on ... I have gone on record somewhere saying that Vettel will be 2010 World Champ (reliability issues permitting) so fairly accurate there!
Well I won't bother to review the race as I might drop off, but a question for all you quiz fiends ... Has there ever been a Thai F1 driver and if so what was his/her name. Prize a bunch of bananas for first correct entry.
To show just how seriously I take my role as Buriram Expats F1 bore, I am just about to start packing to go to Melbourne to cover the race in depth... Admin can you arrange Press Accreditation for me?
This is a rather expensive procedure and the cost is borne 100% by me, so should you wish to leave the odd thousand baht note behind the bar at Paddys I will put it to good use ~~~~ failing that you could always front up for a bottle of Archa! biggrinbar
TBWG sawadi
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That was a good one.. happy1
F1 coverage by TBWG voluntarily expat activist. >:D sissies
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
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Hi Bums
Well as the forum F1 pundit I would like to give all of you the benefit of my extremely limited and biased F1 knowledge. hahaha
Well I won't bother to review the race as I might drop off, but a question for all you quiz fiends ... Has there ever been a Thai F1 driver and if so what was his/her name. Prize a bunch of bananas for first correct entry.
Ok is that answers on a postcard! or pm? anyway have PM'd you :OP
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Alonso takes Bahrain for Ferrari. Massa 2nd and Hamilton 3rd. Vettel 4th, Rosberg 5th and Schummi a respectable 6th. Over to you TBWG....
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Hi Bums
Well as the forum F1 pundit I would like to give all of you the benefit of my extremely limited and biased F1 knowledge. hahaha
Well I won't bother to review the race as I might drop off, but a question for all you quiz fiends ... Has there ever been a Thai F1 driver and if so what was his/her name. Prize a bunch of bananas for first correct entry.
Ok is that answers on a postcard! or pm? anyway have PM'd you :OP
Well F1 fans a bunch oif bananas goes to marauding scot who PM'd me with the correct answer, however to keep you all in suspense i won't reveal the answer, so that we can see who else knows and is first to post on forum.
Just to keep the nail biting tension at fever pitch does anyone know the thailandflag Thai national racing colour! e.g UK = British Racing Green Italy = Scarlet Red
TBWG sawadi
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Well F1 fans a bunch oif bananas goes to marauding scot who PM'd me with the correct answer, however to keep you all in suspense i won't reveal the answer, so that we can see who else knows and is first to post on forum.
Just to keep the nail biting tension at fever pitch does anyone know the thailandflag Thai national racing colour! e.g UK = British Racing Green Italy = Scarlet Red
Cool broccoli1 do I get another bunch of bananas for correct answer to this smilenod
Anyway just to keep this open to see if anyone else sends you correct answer, I will pm you the answer to this as well....... if I am wrong do I lose my first banana bunch!!! :(
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Well F1 fans a bunch oif bananas goes to marauding scot who PM'd me with the correct answer, however to keep you all in suspense i won't reveal the answer, so that we can see who else knows and is first to post on forum.
Just to keep the nail biting tension at fever pitch does anyone know the thailandflag Thai national racing colour! e.g UK = British Racing Green Italy = Scarlet Red
Cool broccoli1 do I get another bunch of bananas for correct answer to this smilenod
Anyway just to keep this open to see if anyone else sends you correct answer, I will pm you the answer to this as well....... if I am wrong do I lose my first banana bunch!!! :(
Right again,thats a second bunch of Bananas party3 in the mail to Jockistan, watch out for the mailman!
TBWG sawadi
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Right again,thats a second bunch of Bananas party3 in the mail to Jockistan, watch out for the mailman!
TBWG sawadi
WOOHOO broccoli1 broccoli1 broccoli1 at this rate I will be able to keep my elephant happy and well fed!
ok anymore anymore hu hu hu! wubbar
lol soz getting carried away there. anyway TBWG have a great time in Oz, will look out for you when watching it on tv. (wonder if I can get the g/f to take me to irish bar in buriram to see it? ) confused1
and hope to catch up with you when you get back.
Regards
MS
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Hi Bums
Wait no longer here is the GP report you have all been waiting for.............................Well I had better get it out before Malaysia tomorrow, that should be a goody!
Well I am finally back from my trip to the Australian GP and hope to provide you with in depth coverage of all the action. However, firstly when I arrived at the GP press office and demanded my Buriram Expats accreditation pack I was told " Pom, go pee up a rope" it transpires that we had not paid the registration fee of US$25,000 in used notes! I argued that this was tantamount to blackmail and demanded to report this disgraceful situation to Mr Ecclestone. Only to be told that said dosh should be put in a plain brown envelope addressed to Mr B Ecclestone! So I doubt I would get much sympathy there!
So I excused myself with as much dignity as I could muster and adjourned to the grandstand. On the way I made a purchase of a can of Boag's Best beer .... A$ 6.50 yup A$ 6.50 now for us economically challenged Brits that's 4 quid a can! not even a pint! Being a cheap Charlie used to drinking Archa at 35 baht a large bottle, the chances of me getting pissed on this jolly was exceedingly slim. angrybar
First of all a bit of background about Melbourne, I stayed in the CBD (city business district) nice wide roads (ideal for doing donuts and burn outs in the Merc) well organised tram system and compliant pedestrians who to the man obey the crossing signals. So I arrived mid-dayish and was staggered by all the places to eat in fact almost every shop was a restaurant, bistro or coffee house so I was salivating at the choice and planning my evening meals should I not get an invite to the GP ball or be entertained by any of the teams!
Imagine my surprise when after being left off the GP ball guest list due to some admin blunder I went to the CBD to have a bite to eat only to find that all of the eating places closed at 5.00 pm when the office workers go home! So my first meal in Oz a burger in Nando's!
Well back to the cars, lot's of supporting races with the V8 saloons being the Aussie's favourites, only 2 makes Ford or Holden with the country split 50/50 with bitter rivalry, but we are here for the big boys F1!
Now everyone covers the big boys so I will start at the a**e end of the grid with the newcomers.... Virgin Racing, Lotus and HRT (can you believe that name) Given their lack of lead time and the fact that they had no choice but to use the least powerful engine on the grid I feel they have made a sterling effort, the cars all look the part but have been let down by hydraulic gear selection problems in the X-trac gearboxes which are bought in components. Lotus are the team to beat in this group I think mainly due to the fact they have 2 established race winning drivers in the team and did not need to employ pay drivers.
Over the entire GP duration the weather was very changeable, rain, sun, wind, hot & cold in fact I learnt this is typical Melbourne weather, a bummer for a travelling light tourist but great for spicing up the racing and thanks too the late start rain conveniently arrived during some sessions
This leads to a some of the new boys doing a lot of rally crossing and "Kamikaze" Kobayashi trashing a couple of nose wings on what I think is the best looking car on the grid i.e. the Ferrari engined BMW Sauber (go figure that out).
By now all the Aussies are in a state of near bliss as home boy Mark Webber qualifies on the front row and they are all convinced its a done deal and he has a win in the bag!
Row 1 Sebastian Vettel 1′23.919
Red Bull-Renault
Mark Webber 1′24.035
Red Bull-Renault
Row 2 Fernando Alonso 1′24.111
Ferrari
Jenson Button 1′24.675
McLaren-Mercedes
Row 3 Felipe Massa 1′24.837
Ferrari
Nico Rosberg 1′24.884
Mercedes
Row 4 Michael Schumacher 1′24.927
Mercedes
Rubens Barrichello 1′25.217
Williams-Cosworth
Row 5 Robert Kubica 1′25.372
Renault
Adrian Sutil 1′26.036
Force India-Mercedes
Row 6 Lewis Hamilton 1′25.184
McLaren-Mercedes
Sebastien Buemi 1′25.638
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Row 7 Vitantonio Liuzzi 1′25.743
Force India-Mercedes
Pedro de la Rosa 1′25.747
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 8 Nico Hülkenberg 1′25.748
Williams-Cosworth
Kamui Kobayashi 1′25.777
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 9 Jaime Alguersuari 1′26.089
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Vitaly Petrov 1′26.471
Renault
Row 10 Heikki Kovalainen 1′28.797
Lotus-Cosworth
Jarno Trulli 1′29.111
Lotus-Cosworth
Row 11 Timo Glock 1′29.592
Virgin-Cosworth
Lucas di Grassi 1′30.185
Virgin-Cosworth
Row 12 Bruno Senna 1′30.526
HRT-Cosworth
Karun Chandhok 1′30.613
HRT-Cosworth
Well after a days racing a good meal is required, so I have now located Lygon street which is were all the restaurants are situated, it is also known as "Little Italy" and things there are a bit subdued as they can't quite make out if their glass is half empty or half full. I sympathise as a Brit things could be better (we are in the half empty category). But what the hell I'll have a Thai meal and the lamb massaman curry hits the spot!
By now we all know what happened next ............ Rain arrives dead on time at 5.00pm Saturday start time. Alonso does a pirouette right in front of yours truly and gets away dead last even after the chase car! Must admit I am not a fan of "The Brat" but he did well to recover to 4th, Kamikaze took flying lessons over the top of Hulkenberg, Hamilton was sacrificed for a look at his tyres to Buttons benefit. Vettel conveniently parked it after disappearing into the distance and Kubica surprised everyone by bringing it home 2nd. Home boy Webber converted his win into an 8th place. Button did the business for a GB win, greatbritainflag I did not do too much cheering for fear of getting a fat lip from irate Aussie's but sod the expense I did sink a few beers.
Your F1 sporting correspondent TBWG sawadi
PS Admin I will send some video clips via e mail to you for attachment as soon as I figure out how to download the bl**dy things from my Iphone!!
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TBWG in Australia, Melbourne. bananadance
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For all of those who have been suffering sleepless nights since 21 March:
http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/drv-birpri.html (http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/drv-birpri.html)
DRIVERS: PRINCE BIRA
Name: Prince Bira
Nationality: Siam
Date of birth: July 15, 1914 - Bangkok
Date of death: December 23, 1985 - London
Prince Birabongse Bhanutej Bhanubandh was a member of Siam's royal family and was a grandson of King Mongkut, who opened the country to Western influence in the late 19th century and was made famous by the musical comedy, "The King and I". As a result the Siamese royal family became closely linked with Britain and in 1927 - at the age of 13 - Prince Bira was sent from Siam to attend the most famous of all British public schools - Eton College. While he was there there was a revolution in Siam and after considerable disruption including several coups d'etat and other conspiracies King Prajadhipok - the Prince's uncle - was forced to abdicate. Prince Bira decided to stay in England and went on to study at Cambridge University. Another Siamese Prince - Bira's cousin, Prince Chula Chakrabongse, ran a racing team called White Mouse Racing and the 21-year-old Bira thought he might try his hand at motor racing.
In 1936 Chula's White Mouse team purchased an ERA for Bira to drive and he quickly became one of the leading exponents of this voiturette class of international racing, winning the Coup de Prince Rainier at Monte Carlo. He proved consistently successful up to the war. At the same time he met and married an Englishwoman. When war broke out Thailand (as Siam had become in 1939) was occupied by the Japanese army and so Bira decided to stay in Britain, living quietly in a cottage in Cornwall. When the war was over the 31-year-old Prince decided to reestablish White Mouse Racing. There was little motor racing in England in the immediate postwar years and he eventually closed the team and went to race in Europe driving a Maserati for Enrique Plate's private team. He briefly joined the HWM team, then Gordini and OSCA, but by 1953 he was driving his own 2-liter Maserati AC which he painted in the distinctive blue and yellow livery which were Thailand's international racing colors.
Bira later became one of the first private entrants to order one of the new Maserati 250Fs but while his new car was being completed he raced his 1954 machine with a new 2.5-liter engine installed. He used this to win the Grand Prix des Frontieres on the Chimay road circuit in southern Belgium and then finished fourth in the French Grand Prix at Reims with the new 250F. Bira raced to the end of the 1954 season when he married for the second time and scored his final victory with the 250F in the non-championship New Zealand Grand Prix before retiring.
Thereafter he returned to live in Thailand although he maintained a European base in the form of a three-masted schooner berthed at Cannes, close to his other home, Villa les Faunes, at Mandelieu. A versatile and cultured man, Bira died on a London underground station after suffering a heart attack.
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Hi Lourens
A bunch of bananas is in the post, keep your eyes peeled! hahaha party3 party3 party3 party3
TBWG sawadi
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Well Folks
Today I have been to Goodwood to the festival of speed! Thought you might like to see a picture! clap
TBWG sawadi
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Nice.! broccoli1
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Now I understand the name " good wood". happy2
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Me and 150 Formula 1 fans met face to face with leading figures from the sport at the FOTA Fans Forum, powered by Santander, in London this week.
The idea for the event, organised by Jamesallenonf1, came from the contents section on his website which has become a conduit for interactivity between the fans and the sport. The forum is an extension of that, putting the fans and the sport together in the same room to exchange ideas.
Led by Martin Whitmarsh, FOTA chairman and team principal of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes and featuring Tony Fernandes, team principal of Lotus Racing, Jock Clear, Senior Race Engineer, Mercedes GP Petronas F1 team, Luca Colajanni, Head of Motorsport Press Office, Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro and Paul di Resta test and reserve driver, Force India F1 team, the panel took part in a 90 minute discussion with fans.
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Hi Bums
It's the big event this weekend, No I don't mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs chasing a ball, I mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs going round in circles, fast! It's Silverstone GP drivinggear
Well if you look closely at the attached photo you can see sponsorship from Amazing Thailand so you now have something to root for! thailandflag
Remains to be seen if it ends in a riot and goes up in smoke!
TBWG sawadi
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Hi Bums
It's the big event this weekend, No I don't mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs chasing a ball, I mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs going round in circles, fast! It's Silverstone GP drivinggear
Well if you look closely at the attached photo you can see sponsorship from Amazing Thailand so you now have something to root for! thailandflag
Remains to be seen if it ends in a riot and goes up in smoke!
TBWG sawadi
Well folks after The 'Amazing Thailand' Red Bull team were fastest in 1st and 2nd practice today. So Thailand may have something to celebrate come Sunday afternoon.
I put it down to the Singha beer sponsorship which I also spied on the cars. Just imagine how fast they would be if the had Archa backing. alcoholic
TBWG sawadi
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Hi Bums
It's the big event this weekend, No I don't mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs chasing a ball, I mean a load of overpaid egomaniacs going round in circles, fast! It's Silverstone GP drivinggear
Well if you look closely at the attached photo you can see sponsorship from Amazing Thailand so you now have something to root for! thailandflag
Remains to be seen if it ends in a riot and goes up in smoke!
TBWG sawadi
Well folks after The 'Amazing Thailand' Red Bull team were fastest in 1st and 2nd practice today. So Thailand may have something to celebrate come Sunday afternoon.
I put it down to the Singha beer sponsorship which I also spied on the cars. Just imagine how fast they would be if the had Archa backing. alcoholic
TBWG sawadi
Well Bums............
Amazing Thailand does it again in 3rd Practice ~~~ will it be more of same in race? thailandflag
http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/live_timing.html (http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/live_timing.html)
Perhaps we should ask Paul the Octopus!! character3
My long shot Kubica! confused4
TBWG sawadi
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Well F1 fans
Thailand ties up first row of grid!!! thailandflag
http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/live_timing_popup.html (http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/live_timing_popup.html)
Lot's of Singha to be consumed tonight! party12
TBWG sawadi
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Hi Bums
Webbo gets revenge ~~~ and wins Brit GP for Amazing Thailand! thailandflag
Mark Webber responded to the Red Bull front wing controversy in the best way imaginable by taking a commanding British Grand Prix victory ahead of Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg and Jenson Button.
Pole sitter Sebastian Vettel's chances of victory were ruined by a first-lap puncture, although he recovered to seventh, and there was further controversy over stewarding decisions after a contentious penalty for Fernando Alonso left the Ferrari outside the points.
Webber made a much better start than his team-mate and reached Copse first, despite Vettel's best efforts to squeeze him. Vettel then lurched off the road at Becketts with a right rear puncture, potentially the result of a slight touch from Hamilton's McLaren at the first corner.
Felipe Massa was also trundling back to the pits with flailing rubber - he had been side by side with his slow-starting Ferrari team-mate Alonso through the first corner and wheel banging at Becketts left the Brazilian with a puncture as well.
Webber therefore led from Hamilton, with this pair rapidly dropping quick-starter Robert Kubica (Renault) in third, who had Rosberg's Mercedes and Alonso all over the back of him.
Pitting slightly earlier than Kubica did not work for Alonso, whereas running a little longer did the trick for Rosberg. Eager not to lose more time, Alonso went down the outside of Kubica into Vale on lap 17, and completed the pass by nipping over the kerbs and cutting the first apex of Club.
He then sprinted away after Rosberg, while Kubica was assured that Alonso would be ordered to let him back through. That became a moot point three laps later though, when Kubica retired with a differential problem.
The stewards therefore ruled that Alonso should take a drive-through penalty, a decision announced just before the safety car came out so that debris could be cleared following contact between Adrian Sutil (Force India) and Pedro de la Rosa (Sauber) that left chunks of the latter's rear wing deposited on various straights. With Alonso having to take his penalty immediately after the restart, he tumbled straight to the midfield.
The safety car was a lifeline for Vettel, who had made little progress up to that point, but then started carving through the traffic with a string of spectacular passes, including one on Michael Schumacher. Sutil - who had also put a bold move on Schumacher after the restart - proved Vettel's toughest rival, and it took many laps of tough battling before the Red Bull driver finally muscled through to take seventh on the penultimate lap.
Far away from this excitement, Webber delivered a masterclass at the front of the field. Hamilton managed to tag along until the pitstops, but thereafter Webber was unstoppable, reeling off fastest laps whenever required and leading by 6s before easing off at the end.
Rosberg returned Mercedes to the podium with a strong run to third, despite losing a barge board when sweeping round the outside of the yet-to-stop Jaime Alguersuari's Toro Rosso mid-race. The German finished just ahead of Button, who surged through from 14th to fourth thanks to a great first lap and staying out much longer than most before his tyre change.
Rubens Barrichello gave Williams its second straight top five finish, with Kamui Kobayashi following him home for Sauber's best result of the year.
By the time Vettel was clear of Sutil that pack was too far ahead to reach, so he had to settle for seventh, followed by countrymen Sutil, Schumacher and Nico Hulkenberg.
Alonso's race got even worse when he sustained a puncture in a brush with Tonio Liuzzi's Force India, leaving him 14th, one place ahead of Massa, who needed a further set of new tyres after spinning on the exit of Luffield late on.
PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS
The British Grand Prix
Silverstone, Britain;
52 laps; 306.747km;
Weather: Sunny.
Classified:
Pos Driver Team Time
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1h24:38.200
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 1.360
3. Rosberg Mercedes + 21.307
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 21.986
5. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 31.456
6. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 32.171
7. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 36.734
8. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 40.932
9. Schumacher Mercedes + 41.599
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth + 42.012
11. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes + 42.459
12. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 47.627
13. Petrov Renault + 59.374
14. Alonso Ferrari + 1:02.385
15. Massa Ferrari + 1:07.489
16. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth + 1 lap
17. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth + 1 lap
18. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 1 lap
19. Chandhok HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
20. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
Fastest lap: Alonso, 1:30.874
Not classified/retirements:
Driver Team On lap
Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 45
De la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 30
Kubica Renault 20
Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 10
World Championship standings, round 10:
Drivers: Constructors:
1. Hamilton 145 1. McLaren-Mercedes 278
2. Button 133 2. Red Bull-Renault 249
3. Webber 128 3. Ferrari 165
4. Vettel 121 4. Mercedes 126
5. Alonso 98 5. Renault 89
6. Rosberg 90 6. Force India-Mercedes 47
7. Kubica 83 7. Williams-Cosworth 31
8. Massa 67 8. Sauber-Ferrari 15
9. Schumacher 36 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 10
10. Sutil 35
11. Barrichello 29
12. Kobayashi 15
13. Liuzzi 12
14. Buemi 7
15. Petrov 6
16. Alguersuari 3
17. Hulkenberg 2
For myself the result of seeing the Ferrari's dice their way to the back of the grid was amusing! 14th & 15th!! hahaha
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Christmas comes early for Alonso in Germany!
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Alonso albeit by cheating IMHO......................I see Ferrari have been fined $100,000......
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Alonso albeit by cheating IMHO......................I see Ferrari have been fined $100,000......
Hi Bums
I've got to get this off my chest ~~~~ Ferrari have pulled this stunt in the past and I am not surprised that they have done so again, but to have effected the change of lead in such an amateurish manner is laughable.
But to then go out and try to deny it in such a blatant manner is insulting mine and everyone else's intelligence and does them nor F1 no credit.
I am used to politicians lying through there teeth and arguing black is white and unfortunately expect no better from them, but I don't want to see in in my sport!
Well I feel better now .........think I will go and have a lie down!!
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Hi all,
Vettel and Webber one and two in Hungary......lets go! May the best Aussie win crazydance Sorry my allegiance's are showing... redman
Cheers,
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OK bums heres Autosports take on the grid for tomorrow!
By Jamie O'Leary Saturday, July 31st 2010, 13:03 GMT
Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Hungarian GPSebastian Vettel stormed to his seventh pole position of the season as Red Bull locked out the front row of the grid for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
The German leapt to the head of the field halfway through the final part of qualifying with a time of 1m18.773s, and was never headed after that, his team-mate Mark Webber ending up 0.419s slower in second place.
Webber, who slid wide at Turn 15 on his first flying lap of Q3, was unable to improve on his final attempt, meaning that Vettel was already guaranteed pole while he was still midway around his last lap.
Ferrari secured the second row of the grid with Fernando Alonso ahead of Felipe Massa. Alonso's best lap in Q3 made him the only non-Red Bull driver to dip below 1m20s all weekend.
Lewis Hamilton's McLaren and Nico Rosberg's Mercedes were next up with Vitaly Petrov producing the shock of the session as he not only took a career-best seventh spot, but also out-qualified his team-mate Robert Kubica by a place.
Impressive performances by Sauber's Pedro de la Rosa and Williams driver Nico Hulkenberg brought the pair into the top 10.
World champion Jenson Button was a shock elimination in Q2 as the McLaren driver could do no better than 11th after complaining that the grip he had during the morning had disappeared.
His fate, and that of Rubens Barrichello, was sealed when both Hulkenberg and De la Rosa pumped in quick times to take them into the top 10 in the final minute.
Michael Schumacher had yet another difficult afternoon, the seven-time world champion only managing 14th place on the grid in his Mercedes.
Sauber's Kamui Kobayashi was eliminated in Q1, the Japanese driver being baulked by a Hispania at Turn 14 on his final flying lap. After entering the pitlane, appeared ignored an instruction to stop at scrutineering, although the driver denied he had done anything wrong.
Timo Glock put Virgin on top of the new teams for only the third time this season in 19th, while Sakon Yamamoto had his most convincing performance since returning to F1. Despite qualifying 24th, he was just five hundredths of a second slower than his Hispania team-mate Bruno Senna.
Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:20.417 1:19.573 1:18.773
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:21.132 1:19.531 1:19.184
3. Alonso Ferrari 1:21.278 1:20.237 1:19.987
4. Massa Ferrari 1:21.299 1:20.857 1:20.331
5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.455 1:20.877 1:20.499
6. Rosberg Mercedes 1:21.212 1:20.811 1:21.082
7. Petrov Renault 1:21.558 1:20.797 1:21.229
8. Kubica Renault 1:21.159 1:20.867 1:21.328
9. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:21.891 1:21.273 1:21.411
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:21.598 1:21.275 1:21.710
11. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.422 1:21.292
12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:21.478 1:21.331
13. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:22.080 1:21.517
14. Schumacher Mercedes 1:21.840 1:21.630
15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:21.982 1:21.897
16. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:21.789 1:21.927
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:21.978 1:21.998
18. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.222
19. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:24.050
20. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:24.120
21. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:24.199
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:25.118
23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:26.391
24. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:26.453
All Timing Unofficial
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Hi Bums
Well I think I now know why Schumacher hates Barrichello so much. First of all I should tell you folks that Barrichello is the only driver to beat the 'STIG' in the star in the reasonable priced car competition.
Now see ~~~~
The Stig Revealed on Top Gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qejdNXNOI#)
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Hi Bums ~~~ In joke for F1 fans!
Apparently Naomi Campbell when questioned at the war trials court in the Hague was asked if she did not think it odd receiving a small bag of diamonds from strange men in the middle of the night? replied.................
Oh no ~~ Flav used to regularly wake me in the middle of the night to let me fondle the family jewels in his pouch! confused4
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Hi F1 Bums
Check these out ~~~
http://sweetf1.blogspot.com/2010/08/asian-babes-singapore-raciness.html (http://sweetf1.blogspot.com/2010/08/asian-babes-singapore-raciness.html)
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NICE !!!!!! wildman
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My favourite Grand Prix and where will I be? On a Thai Airlines flight heading to LOS. Ah well I guess every cloud has a siver lining party6
I would like to tip "our" Mark as winner but I have a bad feeling about "Bucas" and the red team. I think they might have the legs on the "Bulls".
I see that the ever sensitive Schumacher finally apologised to Barrichello 25 days after his disgraceful and dangerous move on the Brazilian. Being the Prince among men that he is he chose to send Rubens the apology via an SMS message!! All subtelty is our Michael........he makes Senna look like a gentleman jumping8
I hope you enjoy the race TBWG have a beer for me biggrinbar
Cheers to all,
John
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My favourite Grand Prix and where will I be? On a Thai Airlines flight heading to LOS. Ah well I guess every cloud has a siver lining party6
I would like to tip "our" Mark as winner but I have a bad feeling about "Bucas" and the red team. I think they might have the legs on the "Bulls".
I see that the ever sensitive Schumacher finally apologised to Barrichello 25 days after his disgraceful and dangerous move on the Brazilian. Being the Prince among men that he is he chose to send Rubens the apology via an SMS message!! All subtelty is our Michael........he makes Senna look like a gentleman jumping8
I hope you enjoy the race TBWG have a beer for me biggrinbar
Cheers to all,
John
Hi John
Well I have just watched 1st practice and it was WET!! Seems set for weekend! Which is always good at Spa (as long as you are watching from home). I would love to see Webah win or anyone as long as it's not the brat.
Have been to spa a few times but still have nasty flashbacks to 1986 when Mansell won. A coach load of Tifosi decided to show what they thought of that by dropping their strides 'en masse' in the car park. Not a pretty site confused4
As for Schumacher, well the man was an excellent racer but is somewhat lacking in the decent human being stakes! Reminds me of Phil Collins telling his wife that their marriage was over by fax! Some things you just do not do. stop1
Have a good flight.
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Hi TBWG,
the Tifosi are not a good look at the best of times but dropping their strides takes it to a new level ! The wet weather will play in to the Bulls hands. Red Bulls strength is down force rather than out right speed so anything that makes the opposition crank on more wing is good. From what I hear the Bulls have changed the weave orientation in the CF of the nose section which allows droop at speed but allows the nose to pass impact and other tests. However they have achieved their advantage it's cunning stuff.
I saw the pictures of the new Sala.......well done.
Sorry if I have placed this thread in the wrong section.
Cheers,
John
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OK Bums
Saturday practice times ......
Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
1. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m46.106s 10
2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m46.223s +0.117 17
3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m46.396s +0.290 12
4. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m46.397s +0.291 17
5. Robert Kubica Renault 1m46.492s +0.386 17
6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m46.627s +0.521 11
7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m46.962s +0.856 10
8. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m47.064s +0.958 15
9. Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1m47.160s +1.054 16
10. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m47.296s +1.190 17
11. Pedro de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1m47.388s +1.282 15
12. Vitaly Petrov Renault 1m47.406s +1.300 15
13. R.Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1m47.512s +1.406 14
14. M.Schumacher Mercedes 1m47.695s +1.589 16
15. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m47.837s +1.731 9
16. Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m47.905s +1.799 20
17. J.Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m47.981s +1.875 18
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1m48.692s +2.586 8
19. Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1m50.600s +4.494 14
20. Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1m51.133s +5.027 9
21. H.Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1m51.384s +5.278 14
22. Lucas Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1m51.517s +5.411 13
23. Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m51.669s +5.563 10
24. Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1m52.001s +5.895 13
Well it's wet , overcast , sunny, dry, in fact all bar snow in Belgium prior to qualifying ~~~~ I will stick my neck out and say that this one has Hamilton's name on it. drivinggear Time will tell
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Hi F1 Bums
You may have already seen this ~~ But I have just come across it! spot1
Rob Smedly's White visor rap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKOnCDXxDs#)
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Well Folks
Mark Webah on pole for Thailand & Singha Beer! biggrinbar
Well my nap still on front row and in with a good chance thumbup
2010 Belgian Grand Prix
Row 1 1. Mark Webber 1′45.778
Red Bull-Renault
2. Lewis Hamilton 1′45.863
McLaren-Mercedes
Row 2 3. Robert Kubica 1′46.100
Renault
4. Sebastian Vettel 1′46.127
Red Bull-Renault
Row 3 5. Jenson Button 1′46.206
McLaren-Mercedes
6. Felipe Massa 1′46.314
Ferrari
Row 4 7. Rubens Barrichello 1′46.602
Williams-Cosworth
8. Adrian Sutil 1′46.659
Force India-Mercedes
Row 5 9. Nico Hülkenberg 1′47.053
Williams-Cosworth
10. Fernando Alonso 1′47.441
Ferrari
Row 6 11. Jaime Alguersuari 1′48.267
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
12. Vitantonio Liuzzi 1′48.680
Force India-Mercedes
Row 7 13. Sebastien Buemi 1′49.209
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
14. Heikki Kovalainen 1′50.980
Lotus-Cosworth
Row 8 15. Timo Glock 1′52.049
Virgin-Cosworth
16. Nico Rosberg* 1′47.885
Mercedes
Row 9 17. Jarno Trulli 2′01.491
Lotus-Cosworth
18. Kamui Kobayashi 2′02.284
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 10 19. Bruno Senna 2′03.612
HRT-Cosworth
20. Sakon Yamamoto 2′03.941
HRT-Cosworth
Row 11 21. Michael Schumacher** 1′47.874
Mercedes
22. Pedro de la Rosa 2′05.294
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 12 23. Lucas di Grassi 2′18.154
Virgin-Cosworth
24. Vitaly Petrov
Renault
*Five-place penalty for a gearbox change
**Ten-place penalty for illegitimately impeding a rival driver during the Hungarian Grand Prix.
Well I am a happy bunny because my least favourite people are languishing in 10th & 21st hahaha
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OK Bums
Well it's wet , overcast , sunny, dry, in fact all bar snow in Belgium prior to qualifying ~~~~ I will stick my neck out and say that this one has Hamilton's name on it. drivinggear Time will tell
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Well should have had a fiver on that hunch! smilenod
Results
Pos. # Driver Team
1 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren
2 6 Mark Webber Red Bull
3 11 Robert Kubica Renault
4 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari
5 14 Adrian Sutil Force India
6 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
7 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes
8 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber
9 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault
10 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso
11 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India
12 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber
13 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso
14 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams
15 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull
16 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus
17 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin
18 24 Timo Glock Virgin
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus
20 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT
Did not finish: Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Bruno Senna, Rubens Barrichello
Monza here we come!
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Hi F1 fans
Well we have Monza coming up at the weekend, make or break time for Ferrari. Thats assuming they are still in with a chance after the FIA meeting re them being naughty boys in Germany. drivinggear
Watch this space!
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Hi F1 fans
Well we have Monza coming up at the weekend, make or break time for Ferrari. Thats assuming they are still in with a chance after the FIA meeting re them being naughty boys in Germany. drivinggear
Watch this space!
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Hi F1 bums
Oh well only to be expected I s'pose! Massa bend over you are about to be ~~~~~~~ confused4
Ferrari have escaped further punishment for using banned team orders where driver are told what to do, according to the Italian motorsport federation.
It has also been reported that the sport's governing body, the FIA, will consider the rule banning team orders.
The decision was made at a World Motor Sport Council disciplinary hearing.
Ferrari were fined $100,000 (£65,100) for appearing to give Felipe Massa a coded message to allow Fernando Alonso through to win the German Grand Prix.
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AND 20 races for the 2011 season with the inclusion of the Indian Grand Prix
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Well F1 fans
It's very tight at the front after 2nd practice. But I have a sneaking suspicion that McLaren will prevail. Check back after qualy tomorrow, to see just how wrong I can be! pray1
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Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1′22.839
2 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1′22.915 0.076
3 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1′23.061 0.222
4 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1′23.154 0.315
5 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1′23.210 0.371
6 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1′23.415 0.576
7 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1′23.708 0.869
8 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1′23.709 0.870
9 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1′23.852 1.013
10 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1′23.857 1.018
11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1′24.181 1.342
12 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1′24.380 1.541
13 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1′24.407 1.568
14 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1′24.448 1.609
15 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′24.517 1.678
16 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1′24.547 1.708
17 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1′24.785 1.946
18 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′25.106 2.267
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1′26.204 3.365
20 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1′26.306 3.467
21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1′26.631 3.792
22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1′26.676 3.837
23 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1′29.498 6.659
24 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth
2010 Italian Grand Prix
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Hi folks
Anyone ~~ what does the Tat say?
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Saturday Practice 3
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1′22.498
2 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1′22.545 0.047
3 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1′22.644 0.146
4 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1′22.648 0.150
5 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1′22.724 0.226
6 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1′22.946 0.448
7 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1′23.082 0.584
8 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1′23.129 0.631
9 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1′23.209 0.711
10 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1′23.303 0.805
11 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1′23.450 0.952
12 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′23.673 1.175
13 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1′23.896 1.398
14 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1′23.908 1.410
15 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′23.909 1.411
16 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1′23.967 1.469
17 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1′24.191 1.693
18 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1′24.439 1.941
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1′25.788 3.290
20 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1′25.925 3.427
21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1′26.434 3.936
22 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1′26.682 4.184
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1′27.471 4.973
24 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1′28.730 6.232
2010 Italian Grand Prix
Still think this is Mclarens Race but not sure which driver!
Qualy times to follow.
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Hi F1 bums
Tomorrows grid
Pos. # Driver Car Q1 Q2 Q3
1 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1′22.646 1′22.297 1′21.962
2 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1′23.085 1′22.354 1′22.084
3 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1′22.421 1′22.610 1′22.293
4 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1′23.431 1′22.706 1′22.433
5 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1′22.830 1′22.394 1′22.623
6 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1′23.235 1′22.701 1′22.675
7 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1′23.529 1′23.055 1′23.027
8 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1′23.516 1′22.989 1′23.037
9 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1′23.234 1′22.880 1′23.039
10 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1′23.695 1′23.142 1′23.328
11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1′23.493 1′23.199
12 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1′23.840 1′23.388
13 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1′24.273 1′23.659
14 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′23.744 1′23.681
15 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1′24.086 1′23.819
16 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1′24.083 1′23.919
17 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1′24.442 1′24.044
18 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1′25.540
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1′25.742
20 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1′25.774
21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1′25.974
22 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1′26.847
23 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1′27.020
24 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1′25.934
2010 Italian Grand Prix
Gunna be close tomorrow but still reckon a Macca win
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Hi F1 bums
Quick Nick comes home ~~~~
Heidfeld in, de la Rosa out at Sauber
By Jonathan Noble AUTOSPORT Tuesday, September 14th 2010, 09:04 GMT
Sauber confirmed that Heidfeld will be replacing Pedro de la Rosa for the final five races of the season to compete alongside Kamui Kobayashi.
Team principal Peter Sauber suggested that the move had been made to better help the team understand its car.
"It was a hard decision for me to make as a team principal and I want to thank Pedro for his professionalism," explained Sauber. "By signing Nick we have a driver we know extremely well who will help us to further judge the comparative potential of our car."
De la Rosa expressed his shock at the decision, which comes after he returned to the sport at the start of this season.
"I am surprised by the team´s decision, but I respect it and would like to wish everyone good luck for the remainder of the season," he said. "I still intend to be in Formula 1 for 2011".
Heidfeld himself added: "I'm looking forward like crazy to having the opportunity to go racing again in a good car in Formula 1 from the Singapore Grand Prix onwards. After the last months I'm even more motivated than ever.
"For me it is like coming home, as I raced for seven years in total for the team from Hinwil. Without doubt I will be feeling at home straight away and this should help me to familiarise myself as soon as possible with the car. I want to thank Peter Sauber for the faith he has put in me."
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I seem to recall that Heidfeld had a habit of getting the car home regularly and at one time held the record for the number of continuous finishes. (might still do). Anyway that is what Peter Sauber needs a regular finisher in the points. spot1
Pedro DLR is to replace Heidfeld as the Pirelli tester.
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The Iceman cometh ~~~ again?
Raikkonen bids for 2011 Renault seat
By Jonathan Noble Autosport Tuesday, September 14th 2010, 05:19 GMT
Although it had looked likely that Raikkonen would remain in the World Rally Championship next year after his switch of discipline for this season, AUTOSPORT has learned that Raikkonen has renewed his interest in getting back to grand prix racing.
Sources have revealed that in the wake of Renault's impressive form at the Belgian Grand Prix, Raikkonen approached the French car manufacturer with the intent of putting a deal together.
It is not clear, however, whether Raikkonen spoke to Renault himself or if it was done through his management team.
Raikkonen has always insisted that he would only come back to F1 if he was in a competitive car - and that is something that Renault now appears to be able to offer him.
But despite Raikkonen's credentials, Renault is in no rush to advance talks with him - and it is still holding on for current driver Vitaly Petrov to prove he can deliver what the team is demanding of him.
Renault team principal Eric Boullier confirmed that Raikkonen had approached the team - and is in contention for a seat alongside Robert Kubica in 2011.
"It is true that the summer has passed and we have had more and more requests - and the guy you mentioned [Raikkonen] is on the radar now," Boullier told AUTOSPORT.
"He is on the radar because he contacted us."
Boullier has long said that the team will keep Petrov next year if the Russian can improve his consistency throughout a whole race weekend - and not make silly errors like his spin in qualifying in Spa and blocking Timo Glock in qualifying at Monza.
When asked what Petrov had to do to convince Renault that he is a better option than Raikkonen, Boullier said: "He is not very far away to be honest.
"It is still very complicated for him to have a complete weekend and be faultless, and that is where he needs to work and focus on, and develop clearly his commitment and dedication."
One of the attractions of Petrov is the commercial possibilities he opens up in Russia, and Boullier said Renault would have to change its approach if it decided to take the Raikkonen route.
"It would be a different strategy for the team," he said. "And that is not a question of personality or having a world championship title - it will cost me more if he is world champion than if he is not. It is not a question of this - it is a different strategy.
"You work differently if you have a rookie - and in supporting him - than if you have two experienced drivers. So it is different.
"We need to think about it. But the priority is Vitaly, and to see how he will develop. If we are convinced then we will keep him definitely. This is the first option.
But there are several other options, and one of them is Kimi."
Boullier said he expected a decision on Renault's 2011 driver line-up to be made before the end of the season.
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Hi Bums
Me being an aviation plus F1 anorak, this satisfies both my needs! bravo1
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Well its the night race right on our doorstep coming up this weekend and it is up for grabs by any of the leading 5.
So stay tuned for incisive uninformed repartee over the next few days! loco
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Hi TBWG,
I am incredibly uninformed so I thought I would jump in first. However as a longstanding Lotus fan I have to say I love the livery on the Air Asia aircraft. That must have cost Fernandes a pretty penny. confused4
My allegiance is clear ,as a consequence I will put my neck on the line and say that Mark will win the Singapore GP ! Ok I've said it now so polish up your brickbats. Second and third will be between Hamilton,Button and Alonso. Vettel will be last seen on the main straight walking with a torch looking for all the toys he tossed from his pram ooooor possibly helping Fernando to find his toys. jumping7
Poor old Massa will be forgotten about as usual and Micheal ( Micheal who ? I hear you ask) will be wondering what the hell happened AGAIN!! I don't like the dangerous git but only a gold plated churl would say MS is completely talentless. I have a feeling we will see more of him next year after he subborns the team to his whims.
I will keep an eye out for Kubica and some of the newbies who's names allude me at the moment (wine fog tonguebar) Enjoy the race.
Cheers,
John
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Well F1 Folks
Only 24 hours to go before practice kicks off! Will it or won't it, rain that is?
Now if your name is Mark Webah you are probably feeling quite smug right now as you have 2 brand spanking new engines in your back pocket. biggreen Whereas, if your name is Alonso you are teetering on the brink of a mega tantrum as you are 2nd hand engine king with 5 more races to go! bigcry. I see a ginormous strop on the horizon!
Webbo also has 1 more engine than his main rivals one of which is his teammate.
Talking about his teammate, I feel Webbo is also mentally stronger than Seb who seems to turn on the girly hissy fits every time things do not go his way.
Still if it pi**es down during qualy or the race then maybe the Pope in his Popemobile (mark 3) could spring a surprise. yeahme
Stay tuned fans
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F1 Latest
Red Bull have new sponsor for Singapore GP. 7 Eleven! thumbup
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Hi folks
Well Sakon Yamamoto is flat on his back with Singapore trots, so reserve HRT driver Christian Klien will stand in for this weekend. congrats
Bearing in mind he has not competed in a race for 4 years and that it is expected to be a wet night race then it is a bit of a baptism of fire!
Still be interesting to see if he can put one over on Bruno Senna?
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Well as a Lotus fan from way back I am pleased to see this press release from Sigapore. I hope the new team can bring some more glory to the name Team Lotus
Lotus Racing will be known as Team Lotus from next season after confirming a deal for the rights to the iconic name.
Lotus Racing announced in Singapore on Friday that Tony Fernandes and Kamarudin Meranun's Tune Group has acquired Team Lotus Ventures Ltd, the company led by David Hunt since Team Lotus was last on track, and through that agreement now has full ownership of the historic rights and goodwill of the Team Lotus brand and heritage.
"It's difficult to express just what it means to be able to say we are Team Lotus, one of the most iconic names in any form of sport worldwide," said Fernandes.
"We have been working very hard to make this dream come true, and today it has.
"After our first year in Formula One, we believe we are ready to do justice to the legacy we have inherited.
"It was always important to us that Lotus Racing and Team Lotus could be brought together to unite the past and the present, and now we have done so."
Hunt, meanwhile, is eager to see the Team Lotus name and badge back on the Formula One grid. "I'm delighted this day has finally arrived," he said.
"In January 1995, when I had the simply awful task of making the loyal Team Lotus personnel redundant, I promised them, the fans and the media that somehow we would return Team Lotus to F1 in good order and properly funded.
"We had no idea of the huge difficulties we would have to overcome when I made that statement.
"Nevertheless, I simply would not allow the legacy of Colin Chapman's extraordinary achievements to die.
"The custodianship of the iconic brand and history now passes from me to Tony.
"I look forward to assisting the team towards scoring Team Lotus' 80th grand prix win - that will be the day when all the effort of the past 15 years will finally seem worthwhile."
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Hi F1 bums
Second practice results
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’46.660
2 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’47.287 0.627
3 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’47.690 1.030
4 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’47.718 1.058
5 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’47.818 1.158
6 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’48.302 1.642
7 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’48.341 1.681
8 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’48.679 2.019
9 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’48.855 2.195
10 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’48.889 2.229
11 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’49.153 2.493
12 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’49.438 2.778
13 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’49.558 2.898
14 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’49.608 2.948
15 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’49.896 3.236
16 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’49.984 3.324
17 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’50.191 3.531
18 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’50.896 4.236
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’51.878 5.218
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’52.150 5.490
21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’53.431 6.771
22 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’53.526 6.866
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’54.725 8.065
24 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’55.542 8.882
2010 Singapore Grand Prix drivinggear
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Hi F1 bums
Post Monza diatribe, courtesy of Pitflaps.com cool2
Noble, humiliated Latin country ego restored now shiny red car has beaten shiny silver car
SQPR et tu Brutae: An entire nation of proud Italian men and women have regained their self-respect following the victory of a car painted largely red under all its advertising logos, sort of mostly made by their fellow countrymen, writes our breast-beating correspondent, Travis Spectacle.
Crossing the finishing line a few seconds ahead of a silver car made by a bunch of Englishmen and Germans in a factory in Surrey, the whole of the country formally known as a bit of the Roman Empire erupted in pride and joy at the red car’s crushing marginal victory last Sunday.
“Today has been the most amazing day of my lifeâ€, one fan told us, draped in one of the red car’s flags he’d stolen from an unattended merchandise stall barely 20 minutes after the famous win.
“Before this weekend I was bereft; my life a drab, uninspiring morass of meaningless actions defining my life as an Italian citizen in the most anodyne and banal fashion only a daytime television commissioning editor could imagineâ€, he told us.
“But now that Spanish bloke with the eyebrows has vanquished the blonde one with the teeth I feel completely uplifted spiritually, fully formed and at one with this magnificent nationâ€, he fulminated, spreading his arms to encompass the borderline xenophobic rampage going on around him.
“Many countries rely on a peculiarly gullible populace to enable them to routinely shaft their citizens with complete impunityâ€, Professor Caz Carolgees of the Institute for the Study of Basketcase Nations told us.
“But the prize for outright credulous, juvenile fuckwittery surely has to go to Italyâ€, he added.
“Only here could a whole culture exist depending almost entirely on the slavish devotion to one lump of brightly coloured metal finishing ahead of another differently brightly coloured bit of metal every other week to grant them any self-respectâ€, he explained.
“The nearest thing I can think of to this level of infantile retardedness is Scottish people’s relationship with Irn-Bru or just every Frenchman I’ve ever met, generallyâ€, he surmised.
“And don’t even get me started on their clinging sentimentality for fascism and ridiculous devotion to worshiping a discredited arcane religion eitherâ€, he finished in case we had’t got it yet.
“ING-A-LURND, ING-A-LURND, ING-A-LURND, ING-A-LURND, ING-A-LURND-ING-A-LURND, ING-A-LU-URND, ING A LURRRRRRNNNND!!!!“ Richard Littlejohn later added in agreement.
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Well Folks an interesting grid Ferrari first & last! So no Massa spoiling tactics.
Singapore Grand Prix grid
25 September 2010
Row 1 1. Fernando Alonso 1’45.390
Ferrari
2. Sebastian Vettel 1’45.457
Red Bull-Renault
Row 2 3. Lewis Hamilton 1’45.571
McLaren-Mercedes
4. Jenson Button 1’45.949
McLaren-Mercedes
Row 3 5. Mark Webber 1’45.977
Red Bull-Renault
6. Rubens Barrichello 1’46.236
Williams-Cosworth
Row 4 7. Nico Rosberg 1’46.443
Mercedes
8. Robert Kubica 1’46.593
Renault
Row 5 9. Michael Schumacher 1’46.702
Mercedes
10. Kamui Kobayashi 1’47.884
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 6 11. Jaime Alguersuari 1’47.666
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
12. Vitaly Petrov 1’48.165
Renault
Row 7 13. Sebastien Buemi 1’48.502
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
14. Nick Heidfeld 1’48.557
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 8 15. Adrian Sutil 1’48.899
Force India-Mercedes
16. Vitantonio Liuzzi 1’48.961
Force India-Mercedes
Row 9 17. Nico Hülkenberg 1’47.674
Williams-Cosworth
18. Timo Glock 1’50.721
Virgin-Cosworth
Row 10 19. Heikki Kovalainen 1’50.915
Lotus-Cosworth
20. Lucas di Grassi 1’51.107
Virgin-Cosworth
Row 11 21. Jarno Trulli 1’51.641
Lotus-Cosworth
22. Christian Klien 1’52.946
HRT-Cosworth
Row 12 23. Bruno Senna 1’54.174
HRT-Cosworth
24. Felipe Massa
Ferrari
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PS: Sakon Yamamoto looked surprisingly sprightly in the HRT garage. So HRT continue to upset all their drivers, though Senna can't be happy over 1.2secs slower than a driver who has not raced in last few years! drivinggear
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Hi F1 Bums
Well Alonso did the deed again and triumphs in Singapore. yeahme
PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS
The Singapore Grand Prix
Singapore, Singapore;
61 laps; 309.087km;
Weather: Dry.
Classified:
Pos Driver Team Time
1. Alonso Ferrari 1h57:53.579
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 0.293
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 29.141
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 30.384
5. Rosberg Mercedes + 49.394
6. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 56.101
7. Kubica Renault + 1:26.559
8. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 1:52.416
9. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth + 1:52.791
10. Massa Ferrari + 1:53.297
11. Petrov Renault + 1 lap
12. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
13. Schumacher Mercedes + 1 lap
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
15. Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps
16. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth + 3 laps
Fastest lap: Alonso, 1:47.976
Not classified/retirements:
Driver Team On lap
Glock Virgin-Cosworth 51
Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 35
Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 34
Klien HRT-Cosworth 30
Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 29
Senna HRT-Cosworth 28
Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 26
Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1
World Championship standings, round 15:
Drivers: Constructors:
1. Webber 202 1. Red Bull-Renault 383
2. Alonso 191 2. McLaren-Mercedes 359
3. Hamilton 182 3. Ferrari 316
4. Vettel 181 4. Mercedes 168
5. Button 177 5. Renault 133
6. Massa 125 6. Force India-Mercedes 62
7. Rosberg 122 7. Williams-Cosworth 57
8. Kubica 114 8. Sauber-Ferrari 27
9. Sutil 49 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 10
10. Schumacher 46
11. Barrichello 39
12. Kobayashi 21
13. Petrov 19
14. Hulkenberg 18
15. Liuzzi 13
16. Buemi 7
17. De la Rosa 6
18. Alguersuari 3
Alonso is probably my least favorite driver (well a toss up with Schumacher) but he put in a faultless drive and deserved the win, whilst for the second race on the trot Lewis self destructs! My driver of the race must be Kubica, mass overtakings after a late puncture but still finished with a good haul of points. Also the Williams team had another race with both drivers in the points! Unlike Kovalainen who had a bonfire on last lap in front of the pits ~~~ all good stuff!
Onwards and upwards to Suzuka in 2 weeks time. fastclapping
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Revised results after lots of finger pointing! newargue
Hulkenberg given 20-second penalty
Sunday, September 26th 2010, 17:43 GMT
Nico Hulkenberg has been handed a 20-second penalty following a protest by the Force India team in Singapore.
The Silverstone-based squad protested against Hulkenberg after its own driver Adrian Sutil was given a 20-second penalty for having gained from going around the outside of Turn 7 on the opening lap of the race.
The team felt the Williams driver has also gained from cutting a corner.
Sutil, who had finished the race in eighth, was demoted to 10th, but has now moved to ninth following Hulkenberg's penalty.
The Williams driver, meanwhile, drops to 10th.
The penalty means Force India is back in front of Williams in the Constructors' Championship. Force India has also confirmed it has withdrawn its protest against Sutil's penalty decision.
Ferrari's Felipe Massa, having finished in 10th, moves up to eighth.
REVISED RACE RESULTS
Classified:
Pos Driver Team
1. Alonso Ferrari
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes
5. Rosberg Mercedes
6. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth
7. Kubica Renault
8. Massa Ferrari
9. Sutil Force India-Mercedes
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth
11. Petrov Renault
12. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari
13. Schumacher Mercedes
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari
15. Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth
16. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth
Revised World Championship standings, round 15:
Drivers: Constructors:
1. Webber 202 1. Red Bull-Renault 383
2. Alonso 191 2. McLaren-Mercedes 359
3. Hamilton 182 3. Ferrari 319
4. Vettel 181 4. Mercedes 168
5. Button 177 5. Renault 133
6. Massa 128 6. Force India-Mercedes 60
7. Rosberg 122 7. Williams-Cosworth 56
8. Kubica 114 8. Sauber-Ferrari 27
9. Sutil 47 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 10
10. Schumacher 46
11. Barrichello 39
12. Kobayashi 21
13. Petrov 19
14. Hulkenberg 17
15. Liuzzi 13
16. Buemi 7
17. De la Rosa 6
18. Alguersuari 3
All timing unofficial
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You might like this F One!
Fernando Alonso was the only one not amused when Sebastian Vettel cracked a joke during Saturday night's post-qualifying press conference.
Vettel qualified behind Ferrari's pole sitting Alonso on the Singapore street circuit, but said he still rated his chances of driving his Red Bull to the top of the podium.
"The further up you are the more it helps but obviously the race can still change a couple of things. I think Fernando started here from 15th on the grid two years ago and won the race," said the 23-year-old German.
He smiled as he paused; the reporters laughing as they realised Vettel was referring to the famous 2008 race, when Nelson Piquet crashed deliberately to trigger an opportune safety car period for his Spanish teammate. Alonso's face matched the hue of his Ferrari overalls!
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Fernando Alonso Wins The Singapore Grand Prix Race
Alonso delighted with Singapore win (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j0YFI5skYU#ws)
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Thailand and F1 thumbup bravo1
October 6, 2010 by joesaward
Dietrich Mateschitz has long been a man with ambitions in motor racing. He has been involved in the sport since the very beginning of the Red Bull story, when the then new drinks company had a personal sponsorship deal with Gerhard Berger. He then became the sponsor of Sauber and ultimately bought the Jaguar Racing and Minardi teams to become Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso. He also acquired the Osterreichring, which is now known as the Red Bull Ring. On top of all of this he has invested in a NASCAR team and in any number of personal sponsorships in the junior formulae, in rallying, touring car racing and so on. His ambition is to win the World Championship, while at the same time increasing sales of his celebrated energy drink.
What is not well known is that Mateschitz owns only 49% of the business. His partner Chaleo Yoovidhya, a Thai national, owns another 49%, while Yoovidhya’s son Chalerm owns the remaining two percent, having been the man who introduced the two major partners. That was back in the early 1980s. The deal was that Mateschitz would run the business, but that the Thais would have nominal control. Chaleo (78) is now the richest person in Thailand, with a fortune estimated at $4 billion, thanks to Red Bull, and to other products that are produced by his TC Pharmaceuticals company, which continues to market the original energy drink Krating Daeng (on which Red Bull is based) in the Asian markets. The success of the Red Bull business has enabled Chalerm to become Thailand’s most celebrated winemaker, while also being the co-owner of Cavallino Motors, a joint venture with the Bhirombhakdi Family, which owns the Singha Beer company. Singha was recently seen as a sponsor on the Red Bull-Renaults in F1 and said that this was designed to promote Formula 1 in Thailand, which would automatically create interest in Ferrari.
Now Chalerm is saying that he wants to build a F1 circuit in Thailand, so that there can be a Thai Grand Prix. He says that this will help to boost the tourism industry in the country. The country does have a 1.5-mile circuit near the seaside resort of Pattaya. This was built in 1985 and named after Prince Birabongse Bhanutej Bhanubandh (known in Europe as “Prince Biraâ€) who raced Grand Prix cars with some success in the 1940s and 1950s. This is not suitable for Formula 1.
The shift of F1 towards Asia means that Thailand should be considered a sensible contender if Red Bull is willing to put up the money. Why not a Red Bull Ring in Asia, as well as in Austria?
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Hi F1 fans
Seven Eleven again part sponsoring Red Bull for Japanese GP this weekend, although seven eleven is a worldwide organisation I still see it as a good sign for the importance of this part of the world in GP racing. Who knows Thailand may well get a GP in the future. drivinggear
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2nd practice results. ~~~~ drivinggear
1 Vettel Red Bull 1:31.465
142.024 mph
2 Webber Red Bull 1:31.860
0.395
3 Kubica Renault 1:32.200
0.735
4 Alonso Ferrari 1:32.362
0.897
5 Massa Ferrari 1:32.519
1.054
6 Button McLaren 1:32.533
1.068
7 Petrov Renault 1:32.703
1.238
8 Schumacher Mercedes 1:32.831
1.366
9 Sutil Force India 1:32.842
1.377
10 Hulkenberg Williams 1:32.851
1.386
11 Rosberg Mercedes 1:32.880
1.415
12 Kobayashi Sauber 1:33.471
2.006
13 Hamilton McLaren 1:33.481
2.016
14 Barrichello Williams 1:33.564
2.099
15 Heidfeld Sauber 1:33.697
2.232
16 Buemi Toro Rosso 1:34.005
2.540
17 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:34.055
2.590
18 Liuzzi Force India 1:34.310
2.845
19 Kovalainen Lotus 1:36.095
4.630
20 Trulli Lotus 1:36.333
4.868
21 di Grassi Virgin 1:36.630
5.165
22 Glock Virgin 1:36.834
5.369
23 Senna HRT 1:37.352
5.887
24 Yamamoto HRT 1:37.831
6.366
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Oh Dear!
Qualifying for the Japanese Grand Prix has been rescheduled to take place on Sunday morning following torrential rain at Suzuka on Saturday.
Storms at the track that intensified over the day meant it was never safe to let Formula 1 drivers attempt to set grid times.
Despite several time delays to try and wait for a window in the weather, the FIA said at 3.18pm local time that qualifying would now be shifted back to Sunday morning.
A new track inspection will take place at 9:30am tomorrow, with qualifying to start at 10am - five hours before the start of the race.
It is the first time since the 2004 Japanese Grand Prix that a qualifying session has had to be abandoned and shifted back to Sunday.
Qualifying for the 2004 event also took place on 9 October, and it was Michael Schumacher who secured pole position on Sunday.
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They had an impromptu model boat race in the pit lane TBWG bravo1 Apparently Lotus won ! Red Bulls boat was made from Red Bull cans.....Dieter would have been pleased spot1
I was interested to read the story about the majority ownership of Red Bull being Thai thanks for the info.
Cheers,
John
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Hamilton to take five-place grid penalty at Japanese Grand Prix
Published: 10/10/2010 at 06:58 AM
Bangkok Post: Online news: Sports
McLaren's Lewis Hamilton faces a five-place drop on the grid for Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix after the team was forced to change the gearbox on the Briton's car.
McLaren-Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton drives in the rain during the third free practice session of the Formula One's Japanese Grand Prix at the Suzuka circuit in western Japan. Hamilton faces a five-place drop on the grid for Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix after the team was forced to change the gearbox on the Briton's car.
The 25-year-old has had a miserable weekend at Suzuka, crashing heavily in first practice on Friday and being forced to sit out much of the afternoon session as the team frantically fixed his battered MP4-25 machine. Hamilton was one of 22 drivers not to set a timed lap in a wet practice session Saturday morning, and with qualifying postponed to Sunday because of worsening weather, he has completed just six timed laps of the daunting 5.8km circuit this weekend.
On Saturday night, McLaren found that there was an oil pressure problem with Hamilton's gearbox, necessitating its replacement and a five-place penalty on the grid for Sunday's race.
Hamilton is in third place in the championship standings, 20 points behind Red Bull's Mark Webber with four races remaining.
The 2008 world champion has failed to finish three of the last four races, the last two after retiring with accident damage after attempting to overtake Ferrari's Felipe Massa in Italy and Webber in Singapore a fortnight ago.
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Hi F1 Bums ~~~~ Suzuka results
Pos. # Driver Team
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull
2 6 Mark Webber Red Bull
3 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
4 1 Jenson Button McLaren
5 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren
6 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes
7 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber
8 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber
9 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams
10 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso
11 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso
12 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus
13 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus
14 24 Timo Glock Virgin
15 21 Bruno Senna HRT
16 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT
Not classified: Lucas di Grassi, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Vitaly Petrov, Nico Hülkenberg, Felipe Massa, Robert Kubica, Adrian Sutil, Nico Rosberg
2010 Japanese Grand Prix
Championship standings
Drivers’ championship
Position Driver Points
1 Mark Webber 220
2 Fernando Alonso 206
3 Sebastian Vettel 206
4 Lewis Hamilton 192
5 Jenson Button 189
6 Felipe Massa 128
7 Nico Rosberg 122
8 Robert Kubica 114
9 Michael Schumacher 54
10 Adrian Sutil 47
11 Rubens Barrichello 41
12 Kamui Kobayashi 27
13 Vitaly Petrov 19
14 Nico Hülkenberg 17
15 Vitantonio Liuzzi 13
16 Sebastien Buemi 8
17 Pedro de la Rosa 6
18 Nick Heidfeld 4
19 Jaime Alguersuari 3
20 Heikki Kovalainen 0
21 Jarno Trulli 0
22 Karun Chandhok 0
23 Lucas di Grassi 0
24 Timo Glock 0
25 Bruno Senna 0
26 Sakon Yamamoto 0
27 Christian Klien 0
Constructors’ championship
Position Team Points
1 Red Bull 426
2 McLaren 381
3 Ferrari 334
4 Mercedes 176
5 Renault 133
6 Force India 60
7 Williams 58
8 Sauber 37
9 Toro Rosso 11
10 Lotus 0
11 HRT 0
12 Virgin 0
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Hi F1 bums! spot1
Well folks it looks like the Korean GP is on! Mind you I don't think it was ever a non starter it would just cause to much of a loss to the little greedy ones wallet. party13
Mind you if you had bought tickets and it had been cancelled you would have been in for a long wait to get your cash back!
I have a buddy who is still waiting for a return after the Spa GP was cancelled due to the track tearing up about 20 years ago.
Anyway I will be watching the Korean GP as we do our packing for the return to Thailand next day ~~~ can't wait on both fronts. thumbup
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TBWG (whats the shortcut of this name?)
have you read this one? spiral
Steve Parrish's MotoGP column
Australian MotoGP, Phillip Island
Date: 16-17 October
By Steve Parrish
BBC MotoGP commentator
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/9086737.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/9086737.stm)
Jorge Lorenzo may have been crowned world champion but that does not mean the 2010 MotoGP season is over - far from it.
I think we could still see some real fireworks in the last few races, mainly between Lorenzo and his biggest rival, Yamaha team-mate and former world champion Valentino Rossi, starting this weekend at Phillip Island in Australia.
Lorenzo confirmed his status as the champion in Malaysia last weekend but Rossi will have been very pleased to steal a bit of his limelight by winning the race, ending his longest barren run for 10 years in the process.
It was a good weekend all round for Yamaha. Rossi proved he is back to his best and Lorenzo won the title but you can almost smell the cordite in the air as you walk through the team garage.
606: DEBATE
Discuss MotoGP on 606
Lorenzo's title celebration party ended up with everyone jumping into a swimming pool.
Lots of people got their heads shaved, too. I was talking to Lorenzo's team manager the next day and it took me a while to realise who he was because he looked so different.
Prior to the race in Sepang, Lorenzo said he was going to make sure it was a quiet one as far as he was concerned. He just wanted to make sure he finished the race as champion.
Now that he has achieved that goal, expect a different Lorenzo out on the track, starting this weekend.
He has absorbed everything he can from Rossi over the last few years, which includes the rough stuff, so I would imagine he has got some things up his sleeve for the remaining races this season.
This weekend will not just be about Rossi and Lorenzo, though.
Lorenzo seals MotoGP title (UK only)
Casey Stoner will be desperate to impress in his home race, particularly given that he must be as mad as a bear about the way he fell off early in Malaysia because his tyres were not warmed up.
And Dani Pedrosa will be back after missing the last two races with a broken collarbone.
Lorenzo's title win means that next season we will have four world champions on the grid - Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner and Nicky Hayden.
Then there is Pedrosa, Andrea Dovizioso and Ben Spies, who are potential title challengers. It bodes very well for next year.
But the 2010 season still has a way to run - and this weekend should witness an absolute humdinger of a race.
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Russia is the latest to be added to the list of venues!!
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TBWG (whats the shortcut of this name?)
Hi Fox
TBWG is the short cut for Tall Bloke With Glasses 8)
Here as an interesting article by Joe Saward ~~~ just reaffirming that we are in the right half of the World not only from an F1 point of view but also from an economical aspect!
Why I am glad to be off to Korea
October 19, 2010 by joesaward
Most of the Formula 1 circus is not looking forward to going to Korea. Many are staying at home, amid the usual rumours about things not being ready, having to eat “doggie and two vegâ€, and getting lost in world of endless paddy fields, where no-one speaks a word of English… And so on. I am told by my friends that the word “motel†does not mean I am staying in a hotel, but rather in a brothel. Ah well, so long as they don’t rent out my room when I am at the race track, I really don’t care. It cannot be any worse that the first year in Bahrain when I was staying in a place where Russian hookers seemed to rule the roost…
I am sure that it will be fine. In fact I am sure it will be rather less chaotic than living in France at the moment. I live in a country village, about 50 miles from Paris and so I am not really affected by the excesses of the French unions and their short-sighted supporters. I need fuel to get from A to B, but at this time of year A is home and B is Paris, which means that I shuttle backwards and forwards along the same route. The airport is between the two. So a tank of petrol will last me a few weeks, which is a good thing in the current climate. My life is not entirely unaffected by the mess, although yesterday it did take me two hours to cover the journey. There was terrible traffic, presumably due to truck drivers doing their infamous “Operation Escargotâ€, which means they slow to a crawl and jam everyone behind them. Liberté, égalité et fraternité – pour moi!
One of the petrol stations on my route from A to B
I sneaked on to a different road but then found myself in the middle of a demonstration of college students, who have obviously learned the bad habits of their parents and do not seem to understand that if they win this strike and the government backs down they will not have any kind of pension at all, because France will be bankrupt by the time they are old and ready to retire.
Having dodged around that I stopped for a coffee in a petrol station (disturbed sleep patterns being as they are after two out-and-back trips to Asia, with a third – hopefully – beginning tomorrow). The petrol pumps were dry because the unions are blockading the oil refineries. At least this time the government seems willing to send in the police to restore order in vital places, which is progress compared to the last time we went through all this rigmarole. Having lived through the Thatcher Years in Britain I understand what is needed in France, where the unions have too much power and, in my opinion, misuse it disgracefully. Some may not agree with that opinion, but I know that after the Iron Lady faced down the miners in the UK, and Ronald Reagan dealt with the air traffic controllers in the United States, it was a great deal easier to do business. Unions do have a role to pay in societies where there is real injustice and poor working regulation, but France is anything but that.
When I finally reached home I found an e-mail from a mate who flits between France and England. It said: “now back in London and considering the state of affairs in France, happy to be soâ€. I thought for a moment that perhaps one day I will move back to the mother country.
In the circumstances I am happy to be going off for a little bit of an adventure in Korea. In the Asia of today they understand that to make progress one has to work, because countries have to compete in a global world, where no-one is protected. No-one is living on past glories, no-one is leeching off the state. As each nation invests in new technology,or embarks on a new mega-project, Europe falls a little further behind. This will not change as long as the current attitudes exist.
It is something that Bernie Ecclestone has been saying for years – and he is right (as usual).
“Europe will be a Third World economy in the next decade, in particular Britain. In South America and Asia there is a work ethic. Over here they want everything for free. The National Health Service means everyone thinks they can have just what they want. I’d get rid of it. We should be running the country like a business rather than social care.â€
In the circumstances I think Korea is an infinitely more inviting prospect… at least for four or five days.
TBWG sawadi
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living in England has some serious advantages for lazy folks.
on the other hand, it system is one of the best in the world and support the weaker sector like old people,people with disabilities and holding up the people together. right? don't you think so?
Is it better to have a country like US where you almost get nothing when you are in need for help and send you back to work? or like Thailand?
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living in England has some serious advantages for lazy folks.
on the other hand, it system is one of the best in the world and support the weaker sector like old people,people with disabilities and holding up the people together. right? don't you think so?
Is it better to have a country like US where you almost get nothing when you are in need for help and send you back to work? or like Thailand?
Agreed ~~ when you are in need for help, unfortunately a lot of people use this as a lifestyle option. >:(
TBWG
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Hi f1 Bums fans! whistle
Well after all the reports of possible doom & gloom for the Korean Grand Prix, it seems to be all systems go and a pretty reasonable circuit yeahme
So 1st practice times were pretty meaningless as everyone got to grips with the slippery track, but Hamilton came out on top of the pile.
Second practice was more representative ..........................
1 Webber Red Bull 1:37.942 128.383 mph
2 Alonso Ferrari 1:38.132 0.190
3 Hamilton McLaren 1:38.279 0.337
4 Kubica Renault 1:38.718 0.776
5 Button McLaren 1:38.726 0.784
6 Massa Ferrari 1:38.820 0.878
7 Vettel Red Bull 1:39.240 1.298
8 Petrov Renault 1:39.267 1.325
9 Rosberg Mercedes 1:39.268 1.326
10 Kobayashi Sauber 1:39.564 1.622
11 Heidfeld Sauber 1:39.588 1.646
12 Schumacher Mercedes 1:39.598 1.656
13 Barrichello Williams 1:39.812 1.870
14 Liuzzi Force India 1:39.881 1.939
15 Sutil Force India 1:39.971 2.029
16 Hulkenberg Williams 1:40.478 2.536
17 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:40.578 2.636
18 Buemi Toro Rosso 1:40.896 2.954
19 Kovalainen Lotus 1:42.773 4.831
20 Trulli Lotus 1:42.801 4.859
21 Glock Virgin 1:43.115 5.173
22 di Grassi Virgin 1:44.039 6.097
23 Yamamoto HRT 1:45.166 7.224
24 Senna HRT 1:46.649 8.707
So we now wait for qualy to sort out the pecking order, I'll stick my neck out and say this one has Webbah's name on it.
TBWG sawadi
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Hi F1 fans
Well Red Bull tie up the front row ...... although Webbah only 2nd! With a 60% chance of rain, if so, it could be anybodies race! yeahme
Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:37.123 1:36.074 1:35.585
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:37.373 1:36.039 1:35.659
3. Alonso Ferrari 1:37.144 1:36.287 1:35.766
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:37.113 1:36.197 1:36.062
5. Rosberg Mercedes 1:37.708 1:36.791 1:36.535
6. Massa Ferrari 1:37.515 1:36.169 1:36.571
7. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.123 1:37.064 1:36.731
8. Kubica Renault 1:37.703 1:37.179 1:36.824
9. Schumacher Mercedes 1:37.980 1:37.077 1:36.950
10. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:38.257 1:37.511 1:36.998
11. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:38.115 1:37.620
12. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.429 1:37.643
13. Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.171 1:37.715
14. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:38.572 1:37.783
15. Petrov Renault 1:38.174 1:37.799 *
16. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.583 1:37.853
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.621 1:38.594
18. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:38.955
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:40.521
20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:40.748
21. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:41.768
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.325
23. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:42.444
24. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:43.283
* Drops five places for Japan penalty
All Timing Unofficial
TBWG sawadi
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F1 Korea GP - BBC판 오프닝.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPGT04I84jc#ws)
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Hi F1 fans .... Well that was an incident packed race drivinggear, with for me the worst possible outcome! However credit to Alonso he did not put a foot wrong! yeahme
1 Alonso Ferrari 2h 48:20.810
2 Hamilton McLaren + 0:14.999
3 Massa Ferrari + 0:30.868
4 Schumacher Mercedes + 0:39.688
5 Kubica Renault + 0:47.734
6 Liuzzi Force India + 0:53.571
7 Barrichello Williams + 1:09.257
8 Kobayashi Sauber + 1:17.889
9 Heidfeld Sauber + 1:20.107
10 Hulkenberg Williams + 1:20.851
11 Alguersuari Toro Rosso + 1:21.146
12 Button McLaren + 1:29.939
13 Kovalainen Lotus + 1 Lap
14 Senna HRT + 2 Laps
15 Yamamoto HRT + 2 Laps
Sutil Force India 46 Accident
Vettel Red Bull 45 Engine
Petrov Renault 39Accident
Glock Virgin 31Accident
Buemi Toro Rosso 30 Accident
di Grassi Virgin 25 Retired
Trulli Lotus 22 Hydraulics
Webber Red Bull 18 Accident
Rosberg Mercedes 18 Accident
Fastest Lap: Alonso (Ferrari) 1:50.257 (Lap 42)
Drivers' Championship Pos
Driver
1 Alonso Ferrari 231
2 Webber Red Bull 220
3 Hamilton McLaren 210
4 Vettel Red Bull 206
5 Button McLaren 189
6 Massa Ferrari 143
7 Kubica Renault 124
8 Rosberg Mercedes 122
9 Schumacher Mercedes 66
10 Barrichello Williams 47
11 Sutil Force India 47
12 Kobayashi Sauber 31
13 Liuzzi Force India 21
14 Petrov Renault 19
15 Hulkenberg Williams 18
16 Buemi Toro Rosso 8
17 de la Rosa Sauber 6
18 Heidfeld Sauber 6
19 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 3
Constructors' Championship
1 Red Bull 426
2 McLaren 399
3 Ferrari 374
4 Mercedes 188
5 Renault 143
6 Force India 68
7 Williams 65
8 Sauber 43
9 Toro Rosso 11
Still its not over till the Fat Bloke sings ~~~ on to Brazil
TBWG sawadi
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I echo your sentiments TBWG. There is some talk of RB favouring Mark but I cant see it myself. It will go down to the last lap of the last race methinks confused1
Your a bit quiet TBWG..................polishing the Fortuner ?? thumbup
Bet your glad your back in Satuk.........I wish I was love2
Cheers,
John
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Hi John T
Only arrived in Satuk 24 hours ago, Fortuner battery flat! bedroom aircon Kaput so not a good start, plus still a bit jet lagged!
So a bit jaded at the moment! Still at least internet is working! :)
TBWG sawadi
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Sorry to hear about the battery and A/C :o I'm sure you will sort it out in short order thumbup
I see Gerhard Berger has accused MW of crashing on purpose in Korea...........I think GB has been smoking rope or has overdone it with the schnapps blinkbar
Here's too a more successfull Brazillian GP. I think I may throw up if Alonso makes it to the end and picks up the "gong" sick1
Cheers,
John
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Hi F1 Bums
Well I have just checked the start time for the Brazilian GP this coming weekend ~~~~~ 11 pm way past my bedtime! I'll have to see if the boss lady will give me a late pass? pray1
TBWG sawadi
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As the end of the season approaches, the F1 circus again goes halfway around the world -- to South America. The Brazilian Grand Prix is one of the toughest on the F1 calendar. The four point three kilometre circuit 'between the lakes', as Interlagos means when translated, demands everything of the drivers' skills.
Experience the track out the drivers' perspective!
Circuit Guide - Brazil - Interlagos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAil-hOa7no#)
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I know there is one more race after Brazil however I think that this is it for the main players. No skulduggery or stupidity should be ruled out! Brazil traditionally shows which non contender drivers are prepared to back a contender mate. For instance should Alonso find himself near Michael Schumacher then he should be very wary. MS is a great mate of MW and they share a common allegiance through Mercedes. Mercedes owe MW a great deal for his silence over the two time debacle at Le Mans. I am sure we remember MW flying above the trees TWICE!! Well bring it on............shame it's at such a silly broadcast hour confused4
Cheers,
John
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I smell a rat! I think MW may have been told!
John
Mark Webber has declared himself an inconvenience to his Red Bull team, who he feels are emotionally behind team-mate Sebastian Vettel.
Despite still being firmly in contention for the Formula One World Championship, Webber delivered his latest damning appraisal of life behind the scenes at a team where battle lines remain drawn.
In many respects, Webber's media gathering ahead of this weekend's Brazilian Grand Prix was often more about what he did not say than his actual comments.
At times the Australian wore an air of resignation, sat slumped in his chair, shrugged his shoulders and there were a number of lengthy silences before he answered questions.
For a man only 11 points behind Championship leader Fernando Alonso with two races remaining, Webber appeared more akin to someone who had just lost the title rather than being firmly in the hunt.
Asked whether it was a fair assessment that he felt the team was still not fully behind him, there was a long pause before Webber said: "Technically everything's been very, very good."
Pushed as to the personal, emotional side of the coin, Webber made his feelings clear, adding: "It's obvious isn't it?
"I'm an old stager and when young, new chargers come onto the block that's where the emotion is. That's the way it is, which is absolutely fine.
"I've had a great opportunity and a great car to go and do some great things this year, and I have done that.
"I have a chance of winning the Championship, I've won four races, I've had nine podiums, it's been a sensational year for me.
"I can still put the icing on the cake and I'd love to be able to do that. If we don't, the sun still comes up on Monday morning.
"But I've favourites in life. I've got people I like to be with. That's how it is. It's human nature."
Webber was referring to Vettel's close association with team owner Dietrich Mateschitz and his right-hand man Helmut Marko, who on occasion this year has not hidden his sentiment towards the young German.
Asked if he was the people's favourite, Webber added: "I think I wasn't supposed to be in the hunt at all, so it's been maybe quite inconvenient, but I've enjoyed every minute of it."
One of the major talking points is whether Vettel, who is 25 points down on Alonso, should now play the supporting role.
Webber was asked if he would support Vettel if the situation was reversed.
His reply, after yet another lengthy pause and a deep sigh, further underlined the division which exists between them.
"It's a tough question and a tough situation to know how you would do things," Webber added.
"There's a lot of really good people at this team and there's no getting away from the fact we would love to win some Championships this year.
"We're at different parts of our career as well, so it's not as easy as some might imagine. I'd need to think a lot further about that.
"For different reasons here and there, Seb's never led the Championship this year and I have.
"Whatever the best way we go about trying to win the Championship, we'll see on the Monday after Abu Dhabi if it was the right way."
Asked to respond to Webber's comments, team principal Christian Horner said: "It's not been inconvenient at all.
"He's had tremendous support from the whole team, not just this year, but in all the years he's been with Red Bull.
"He's probably referring to the support of Helmut to Sebastian, but that doesn't influence the way the team operates or the way it supports its drivers.
"We've given both drivers a great car and we've given Mark the tools to get the job done."
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Hi F1 Bums
Well Red Bull firmly in control after practice 1. With Ferrari languishing mid field. Another engine gone pop for monobrow, humm s'pose that means hope for the best with his stash of used engines or a grid drop. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind!
Anyway still a long way to go before the fat dude sings! However it does seem that the teams have now appointed their chosen ones confused4
Myself i'd like to see a wild card come in and stir things up a bit say Kubica or Rosberg!
Times for practice 1
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’12.328
2 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’12.810 0.482
3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’12.845 0.517
4 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’13.267 0.939
5 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’13.370 1.042
6 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’13.516 1.188
7 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’13.546 1.218
8 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’13.643 1.315
9 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’14.000 1.672
10 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’14.004 1.676
11 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’14.155 1.827
12 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’14.246 1.918
13 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’14.259 1.931
14 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’14.370 2.042
15 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’14.395 2.067
16 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’14.487 2.159
17 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’14.618 2.290
18 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’14.734 2.406
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’15.603 3.275
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’15.860 3.532
21 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’16.057 3.729
22 25 Jerome d’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’16.707 4.379
23 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’16.839 4.511
24 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’17.360 5.032
2010 Brazilian Grand Prix
Practice 2 to follow providing I can stay awake!
TBWG sawadi
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But can they handle the pressure??
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2nd Practice
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:11.968 28
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:12.072 + 0.104 34
3. Alonso Ferrari 1:12.328 + 0.360 36
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.656 + 0.688 33
5. Massa Ferrari 1:12.677 + 0.709 19
6. Kubica Renault 1:12.882 + 0.914 37
7. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:13.206 + 1.238 33
8. Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1:13.222 + 1.254 40
9. Rosberg Mercedes 1:13.333 + 1.365 34
10. Schumacher Mercedes 1:13.346 + 1.378 36
11. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:13.520 + 1.552 37
12. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:13.610 + 1.642 41
13. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:13.725 + 1.757 39
14. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:13.741 + 1.773 32
15. Petrov Renault 1:13.818 + 1.850 26
16. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:14.045 + 2.077 37
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:14.304 + 2.336 33
18. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:14.578 + 2.610 37
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:14.984 + 3.016 47
20. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:15.101 + 3.133 43
21. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:15.433 + 3.465 35
22. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:16.070 + 4.102 42
23. Klien HRT-Cosworth 1:16.082 + 4.114 38
24. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:16.150 + 4.182 35
TBWG sawadi
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Is there anywhere screening the Brazilian race late on sunday?
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Yup 11.00 pm at Paddys Irish bar!
Open until race finished! yeahme
TBWG sawadi
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Well i guess i'll see you on sunday then!
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Hi F1Art
I'll be there!
Robert Kubica was fastest in a wet final practice session ahead of the Brazilian Grand Prix.
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’19.191
2 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’19.500 0.309
3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’19.536 0.345
4 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’19.735 0.544
5 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’19.791 0.600
6 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’19.887 0.696
7 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’20.009 0.818
8 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’20.056 0.865
9 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’20.164 0.973
10 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’20.320 1.129
11 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’20.337 1.146
12 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’20.421 1.230
13 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’20.452 1.261
14 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’20.535 1.344
15 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’20.541 1.350
16 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’20.546 1.355
17 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’20.613 1.422
18 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’20.985 1.794
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’22.326 3.135
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’22.449 3.258
21 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’22.874 3.683
22 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’23.194 4.003
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’23.358 4.167
24 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’23.650 4.459
2010 Brazilian Grand Prix
TBWG sawadi
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Phenomenal job by Nico Hulkenberg........................but as Patrick Head said " there is no champagne for Saturday". clap
Cheers,
John
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Hi Fans
Wow ~~~ that was not expected! congrats
Rookie Nico Hulkenberg judged damp-but-drying conditions to perfection to claim a sensational maiden pole position – and Williams’s first in more than five years – in a nail-biting qualifying session at Interlagos.
On a tricky, greasy track that called for a switch from intermediate to slick tyres halfway through Q3, Hulkenberg trumped all the championship contenders in the biggest qualifying turn-up since Giancarlo Fisichella put Force India on pole at Spa last autumn.
He did it in emphatic style, too – producing two laps quick enough for pole, the final one leaving him more than a second clear of compatriot and qualifying king Sebastian Vettel, who edged out team-mate Mark Webber for second place.
Championship outsider Lewis Hamilton took fourth and was disappointed not to have missed a rare opportunity to out-qualify the usually dominant Red Bulls, while points leader Fernando Alonso was content enough with fifth.
Jenson Button’s dwindling title hopes took another blow after he failed to make the cut for Q3. The reigning champion will line up 11th, two spots behind Ferrari number two Felipe Massa.
The track was damp throughout, drying only slowly and fitfully through the first two knockout sessions, which were headed by Alonso and Webber respectively.
But by the time Q3 began, the lap times on intermediate tyres were approaching the ‘crossover point’ at which a change to slicks became profitable – and all the remaining 10 drivers were soon back in the pits again for dry rubber.
Williams had made the switch earlier than most, but surprisingly it was Hulkenberg rather than his vastly more experienced team-mate Rubens Barrichello who began lighting up the timing screens.
His initial benchmark of 1m16.373s was soon eclipsed by Hamilton and then Alonso in the improving conditions, but Hulkenberg had found a fine rhythm and kept moving the target as he reeled off an error-free sequence of laps.
His next effort of 1m15.462s proved too good for all the big names on their final runs – and, having crossed the line a few seconds before the chequered flag fell on the session, Hulkenberg had another lap in his pocket.
This one stopped the clocks in a stunning 1m14.470s – leaving the whole paddock suitably impressed and prompting whoops of delight in the usually low-key and businesslike Williams garage, even if team co-owner Patrick Head was quick to point out that the prizes are handed out on Sundays.
Webber’s sequence of laps was interrupted by an off-course moment at the final corner, which compromised not only the lap he was on but the following one too – but the Australian was happy to have outqualified his principal title rival Alonso.
Barrichello completed a banner day for Williams by taking sixth on the grid ahead of Renault’s Robert Kubica, whose Renault looked a handful on the slippery track.
Michael Schumacher took a solid eighth, five places ahead of his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg, who blamed his Q2 exit on an obstructive Sebastien Buemi.
Massa and Petrov rounded out the top 10, while Adrian Sutil was an unexpected casualty of Q1 and will start from the back row once a five-place grid penalty carried over from the Korean GP takes effect.
Brazilian Grand Prix starting grid
1 HULKENBERG Williams
2 VETTEL Red Bull
3 WEBBER Red Bull
4 HAMILTON McLaren
5 ALONSO Ferrari
6 BARRICHELLO Williams
7 KUBICA Renault
8 SCHUMACHER Mercedes
9 MASSA Ferrari
10 PETROV Renault
11 BUTTON McLaren
12 KOBAYASHI Sauber
13 ROSBERG Mercedes
14 ALGUERSUARI Toro Rosso
15 HEIDFELD Sauber
16 LIUZZI Force India
17 GLOCK Virgin
18 TRULLI Lotus
19 BUEMI* Toro Rosso
20 KOVALAINEN Lotus
21 DI GRASSI Virgin
22 KLIEN HRT
23 SUTIL* Force India
24 SENNA HRT
* five-place grid penalty for dangerous driving in Korea
TBWG sawadi
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Life is hard in Brazil !
Jenson Button has escaped unharmed after the car he was travelling in was the subject of an armed attack as he left the Interlagos circuit in Sao Paulo.
The reigning F1 Champion and his father John were being driven away from the venue of Sunday's Brazilian GP when their car came under attack.
Button's manager Richard Goddard and trainer Mike Collier were also in the vehicle as they left after Saturday's qualifying session.
Button, who was being driven in an armoured vehicle with a police driver at the helm, escaped the assailants before returning to his hotel.
A statement issued by Button's McLaren team read: "On Saturday, armed assailants made an attempt to approach the car carrying Jenson Button.
"Neither Jenson nor the other occupants of the car were hurt. McLaren provided Jenson and team-mate Lewis Hamilton with reinforced armoured vehicles.
"The police driver of Jenson's vehicle reacted swiftly and, using avoidance techniques, rapidly forced his way through the traffic, taking Jenson away from any danger.
"The Sao Paulo authorities have acted efficiently and will provide additional security for Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix."
Button said: "We were going back from the track and were outside a shanty town and moving slowly on a busy road.
"I saw a dog come out, which was very cute. The next thing I saw was a man with a gun. I said 'isn't that a gun?' and as soon as I said that, the driver angled the car and floored it.
"That's when we saw six men, all of them brandishing machine guns. My driver was a legend. He bounced off about five cars. We were driving over the top of them. It was very scary."
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yeahmeVettel wins in Brazil!! yeahme
Sebastian Vettel wins Formula One Brazilian Grand Prix
The Associated Press
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/07/2404542/sebastian-vettel-wins-formula.html#ixzz14fhmRrVs (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/07/2404542/sebastian-vettel-wins-formula.html#ixzz14fhmRrVs)
SAO PAULO, Brazil | Sebastian Vettel won the Formula One Brazilian Grand Prix Sunday as the Red Bull team sent the circuit championship battle against Fernando Alonso down to the wire.
Alonso, a Ferrari driver, failed to secure a third career title on the Interlagos course but finished third on the day in taking an eight-point lead into next Sunday’s season-ender in Abu Dhabi.
Alonso has 246 points, Webber 238 and Vettel 231 as the remaining three realistic championship contenders, while Lewis Hamilton has a mathematical chance at 222 points. A victory is worth 25 points.
It is the fourth time in five seasons that the world title will be decided in the final race.
The one-two finish from Vettel and Webber allowed Red Bull to clinch the constructors’ title for the first time in team history with 469 points to McLaren’s 421.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/07/2404542/sebastian-vettel-wins-formula.html#ixzz14fhi5hOl (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/07/2404542/sebastian-vettel-wins-formula.html#ixzz14fhi5hOl)
F1 2010-Red Bull Racing 'The Rise of the Bulls' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuV5RgfXWIM#ws)
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It will be an intersting climax to the season,,,,,,,lets see if any dirty tactics come into play
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Hi F1 Fans
Talk about making life difficult for themselves ~~~ This article by Joe Saward says it all!
Vettel wins in Brazil – the air is thin in Austria
November 7, 2010 by joesaward
Red Bull made a very clear statement in Brazil. It is either run by someone who is stark raving bonkers, or is only willing to apply team orders at the last minute, if it is necessary to do so to save the Drivers’ World Championship from going to Ferrari. It seems that until there is absolutely no chance at all left for Sebastian Vettel to win the title, it is not going to help Mark Webber. Small wonder that Webber feels aggrieved with his team. The one thing he can do to strengthen his situation is to win the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, but thanks to the decisions that have been made he still has to hope that Vettel will be there behind him to keep Alonso out of second place. If Vettel screws up, crashes or blows an engine, Red Bull Racing will likely lose the title because Alonso will be there to snap up second place. The only thing that the team could then hope for is some help from McLaren…
Red Bull has the best car and should, logically, finish 1-2 in Abu Dhabi, but if that is the case and Vettel leads Webber and Alonso to the finish line, then Alonso will win the title. Vettel’s only hope is that things will go badly wrong for Alonso and he will finish fourth, but that has happened only once in the last eight races. If the order is Vettel-Webber-Alonso as they go into the final lap on Yas Island it will be necessary to tell Vettel to allow Webber to pass, but if the team is really going to carry through this much-vaunted sporting attitude that it has spouted forth all year, it will have to give the biggest prize away.
No-one is that stupid in the modern day and age.
Worst still, if Alonso crashes or blows up and Vettel and Webber are running one-two in the final laps of the Abu Dhabi race, both will end up with 256 points and then it will be down to counting back the points. That would likely trigger utter mayhem between the two team mates… as we saw in Turkey, because Vettel would win the countback. If both collided and retired Webber would be champion… In such a scenario Webber has nothing to lose but to try to pass the German.
All of this could have been avoided by switching Vettel and Webber in Brazil. That would have meant the same Constructors’ points but would have meant that Alonso would have needed to beat at least one Red Bull to win the title. Switching Vettel and Webber would not have been a case of applying team orders to the detriment of the sport. It would have been logical and the FIA has never worried about such things in the closing stages of a championship. In any case, it can hardly punish Red Bull with more than a fine, having let Ferrari off earlier in the year, without making itself look bad.
Hey-ho… Roll on Abu Dhabi.
TBWG sawadi
PS Watch the climax at Irish Bar on Sunday!! yeahme
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World Championship permutations again by Joe Saward.
If you have had a few beers forget it ~~~ You need a clear head to follow this, so read when sober blinkbar!
While Dietrich Mateschitz is telling the world that Red Bull is not like Ferrari and will not impose team orders in Abu Dhabi, he has managed to set himself up for a disaster because his strategic thinking has created a situation in which he has left both of his drivers in a situation where they must challenge the other… The Milton Keynes team should have won the championship easily, given the pace of the car, but screw-ups by the team and the drivers, and Mateschitz’s attitude have left the door open. Fernando Alonso can bang the door shut on the Red Bulls if he wins the race or finishes second. If the Red Bulls fail to finish then Alonso wins the title, in these scenarios it is irrelevant what happens to the Red Bulls.
If Alonso is third he can be beaten by Webber, but only if the Australian wins the race – or is allowed to win the race. If Webber is second behind Vettel and Alonso is third then Fernando wins the title. If Alonso is fourth he is also champion in those circumstances, but a fifth place finish with Vettel and Webber one-two would mean a three-way tie on points with Vettel and Webber. In that situation then Webber would be out of the picture, as he would have won only four races. Vettel and Alonso would each have five wins, two seconds, three thirds and Vettel would win it because he has three fourth places to Alonso’s two.
In the worst case scenario Mateschitz’s policy will cause the team to lose the title. Webber and Vettel both need to win and they have no reason to back off, because they have been left with no other choices. Webber is not going to deliberately take out Vettel (as others might perhaps be willing to do) and there is no incentive for Vettel to try to take Webber off because Sebastian needs to keep his car going. Thus if Webber is leading Vettel, the onus will be on Vettel to pass; and if the order is reversed the onus will be on Webber. A Vettel-Webber 1-2 leaves them on equal points (256) and Sebastian would take the title because he would have five wins to Mark’s four. In these circumstances Webber would be forgiven for making a risky challenge because he has nothing to lose and Vettel would be forgiven for closing the door because he needs to win the race. If he is second and Webber is fifth or lower and Alonso is ninth or lower then the title will be his. So to him it does not much matter if the two cars collide. It is a recipe for disaster because neither driver can afford to compromise.
The biggest disaster of all would be for Webber and Vettel to collide because they have no choices other than to be utterly uncompromising… and then for Alonso to come through to win.
If Alonso is out of the running, Vettel must be second if he is to win the title, but in that scenario Webber must not be ahead of him. The three could all end up with 246 points if Alonso retires, Vettel is third and Webber sixth. If that were to happen the crown would go to Alonso, because he would have five wins to Vettel’s four. Lewis Hamilton has a mathematical chance of winning the World Championship, but it is slimmer than slim: the British driver goes into the race 24 points behind Alonso, with 25 points available for a win, which means that Lewis would have to win the race, with Alonso failing to score, Webber in sixth or lower and Vettel no higher than third if he is sneak victory.
Got that? congrats
TBWG sawadi
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The Ruskies are joining forces with Virgin Racing in the form of Morussia Motors
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Hi F1 fans
1st Friday practice times
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap Laps
1 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’42.760 18
2 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’43.369 0.609 16
3 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’43.785 1.025 19
4 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’43.840 1.080 19
5 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’44.080 1.320 19
6 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’44.121 1.361 17
7 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’44.199 1.439 19
8 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’44.604 1.844 18
9 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’44.718 1.958 19
10 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’44.737 1.977 19
11 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’45.160 2.400 18
12 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’45.445 2.685 21
13 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’45.474 2.714 15
14 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’45.552 2.792 20
15 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’45.585 2.825 14
16 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’46.003 3.243 20
17 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’46.664 3.904 19
18 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’47.105 4.345 22
19 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’48.450 5.690 19
20 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’48.472 5.712 17
21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’49.375 6.615 13
22 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’49.590 6.830 18
23 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’50.274 7.514 17
24 19 Fairuz Fauzy Lotus-Cosworth 1’51.705 8.945 18
2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
TBWG sawadi
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Hi F1 Bums!
2nd Friday practice times
Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’40.888
2 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’41.145 0.257
3 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’41.314 0.426
4 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’41.315 0.427
5 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’41.576 0.688
6 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’41.583 0.695
7 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’42.096 1.208
8 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’42.132 1.244
9 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’42.203 1.315
10 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’42.222 1.334
11 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’42.246 1.358
12 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’42.449 1.561
13 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’42.535 1.647
14 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’42.768 1.880
15 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’42.914 2.026
16 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’42.950 2.062
17 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’43.128 2.240
18 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’43.584 2.696
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’45.180 4.292
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’45.259 4.371
21 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’45.612 4.724
22 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’46.053 5.165
23 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’47.210 6.322
24 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’47.434 6.546
2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
TBWG sawadi
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Hi Fi bums
Grid for Abu Dhabi GP ~~ Webbah certainly likes to make it difficult for himself!!
Row 1 1. Sebastian Vettel 1’39.394
Red Bull-Renault
2. Lewis Hamilton 1’39.425
McLaren-Mercedes
Row 2 3. Fernando Alonso 1’39.792
Ferrari
4. Jenson Button 1’39.823
McLaren-Mercedes
Row 3 5. Mark Webber 1’39.925
Red Bull-Renault
6. Felipe Massa 1’40.202
Ferrari
Row 4 7. Rubens Barrichello 1’40.203
Williams-Cosworth
8. Michael Schumacher 1’40.516
Mercedes
Row 5 9. Nico Rosberg 1’40.589
Mercedes
10. Vitaly Petrov 1’40.901
Renault
Row 6 11. Robert Kubica 1’40.780
Renault
12. Kamui Kobayashi 1’40.783
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 7 13. Adrian Sutil 1’40.914
Force India-Mercedes
14. Nick Heidfeld 1’41.113
Sauber-Ferrari
Row 8 15. Nico Hülkenberg 1’41.418
Williams-Cosworth
16. Vitantonio Liuzzi 1’41.642
Force India-Mercedes
Row 9 17. Jaime Alguersuari 1’41.738
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18. Sebastien Buemi 1’41.824
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Row 10 19. Jarno Trulli 1’43.516
Lotus-Cosworth
20. Heikki Kovalainen 1’43.712
Lotus-Cosworth
Row 11 21. Timo Glock 1’44.095
Virgin-Cosworth
22. Lucas di Grassi 1’44.510
Virgin-Cosworth
Row 12 23. Bruno Senna 1’45.085
HRT-Cosworth
24. Christian Klien 1’45.296
HRT-Cosworth
TBWG sawadi
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Hi F1 Bums! icon_must icon_latest icon_latest
Well i'm a fairly happy bunny. A Red Bull World Champion yeahme mind you I would have preffered the other one, but at least monobrow did not take the spoils!
I am now a fully paid up member of the Vitaly Petrov fan club, well done! congrats
So all the nitty gritty here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Yas Marina, United Arab Emirates;
55 laps; 305.355km;
Weather: .
Classified:
Pos Driver Team Time
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h39m36.837s
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 10.1s
3. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 11.0s
4. Rosberg Mercedes + 30.7s
5. Kubica Renault + 39.0s
6. Petrov Renault + 43.5s
7. Alonso Ferrari + 43.7s
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 44.2s
9. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 50.2s
10. Massa Ferrari + 50.8s
11. Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari + 51.5s
12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 57.6s
13. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 58.3s
14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 59.5s
15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1m03.1s
16. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth + 1m04.7s
17. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth + 1 lap
18. Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps
19. Senna HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
20. Klien HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps
21. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth + 4 laps
Fastest lap: Hamilton, 1m41.274s
Not classified/retirements:
Driver Team On lap
Glock Virgin-Cosworth 44
Schumacher Mercedes 1
Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1
World Championship standings, round 19:
Drivers: Constructors:
1. Vettel 256 1. Red Bull-Renault 498
2. Alonso 252 2. McLaren-Mercedes 454
3. Webber 242 3. Ferrari 396
4. Hamilton 240 4. Mercedes 214
5. Button 214 5. Renault 163
6. Massa 144 6. Williams-Cosworth 69
7. Rosberg 142 7. Force India-Mercedes 68
8. Kubica 136 8. Sauber-Ferrari 44
9. Schumacher 72 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 13
10. Barrichello 47
11. Sutil 47
12. Kobayashi 32
13. Petrov 27
14. Hulkenberg 22
15. Liuzzi 21
16. Buemi 8
17. De la Rosa 6
18. Heidfeld 6
19. Alguersuari 5
Schmacher should think himself lucky that he still has a head! :o It was a bit to close for comfort, brown trousers time!
TBWG sawadi
PS For anyone bothered if you go back to beginning of season you will see I napped SV for WC ~~~~ shame I did not have the courage of my convictions and slap a fiver on it pray1