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Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:24:59 AM

Title: Furniture
Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:24:59 AM
Whilst accepting that individual tastes, preferences and budgets are all huge factors, personally I have struggled to find decent quality furniture in Thailand. I'm not a great lover of the highly varnished orangey finish that seems common with the wood furniture here and prefer a more rustic chunky design.
Last month a teak workshop in Chaing Mai advertised on Facebook. I was browsing the pictures expecting the normal variety that is seen here but was pleasantly surprised to see designs and finishes that I personally like.
Long story short, after about 3 hours conversation via Line, I took the chance and ordered a kitchen table + 6 chairs and a coffee table. I specified all overall sizes of finished furniture and also thickness of wood to be used for table tops/legs, slats etc......
Ordered and paid deposit on Saturday 17th June. All was delivered yesterday by the owners of the shop. Throughout they maintained regular contact sending pictures of the build and request for me to approve a mock up before proceeding.
I couldn't be happier with the end result. Quality furniture that will be around long after I'm gone.
ibe ordered some more stuff and just wish I'd looked further afield than Buriram, Korat, Pattaya and Bangkok before.
This place was a pleasure to do business with, offered exceptional customer service and clearly take great pride in what they do.
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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:30:16 AM
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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:42:13 AM
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Post by: urleft on July 10, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
Very nice looking wood. 

And if your house starts to collaspe with you in it under that table looks like a strong safe space.

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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
For sure. The legs are 5 inch sq timber. It took 4 of is to lift. I'd guess it's 100kg+
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Post by: Starman on July 10, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
Nice looking furniture. Would it be possible for you to offer some info on prices?
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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 09:41:04 AM
The large kitchen table is:-
200x 100x 80.
Tabletop is 2 inch thick, legs 5inch square.
Price was 20,000 THB

Chairs:-
Seat pad is 1 inch thick.
Legs ate 2.5 inch thick.
3,500 per chair THB.

Coffee Table is;-
130x90x45
Same timber sizes as large table.
9,500 THB

They usually use a courier company that charges per item. Delivery for all would have been 10,500 however the company owners delivered personally and charged 4,500. Stayed the night with us and are driving back to Chiang Mai now.
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Post by: Nobby on July 10, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
Very nice. Good luck
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Post by: davureborn on July 10, 2017, 12:06:09 PM
Blimey. I took the truck to the wood working village near Phayao and came back with a table and six chairs for ฿ 5800.-, 5 years ago. Used every day and not falling apart yet. Tastes are different of course, they were a bit orangey but that has worn off.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 10, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Davureborn I would like to know more about this village. Have you been back there lately?  Was it just retail furniture or did they have any woodworking supply shops?  I appreciate any info you can share.
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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:01:09 PM
Hi DD.
I haven't been there. All was done via net rent following a advertisement by the wood shop Facebook (see first post). I'm not sure that this particular shop sells woodworking tools equipment however I would imagine that this would be the area to get it. I'm told there are literally hundreds of these small teak businesses around Chaing Mai. This particular shop was n Lamphun.
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Post by: Freddy on July 10, 2017, 08:26:39 PM
DD.    Sorry, just noticed message before was or Davu and not me. Hope you find what your looking for.
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Post by: davureborn on July 11, 2017, 05:59:33 AM
Davureborn I would like to know more about this village. Have you been back there lately?  Was it just retail furniture or did they have any woodworking supply shops?  I appreciate any info you can share.

Your question put me in a sweat. I didn't actually buy at the village itself, but at one of what was a series of shops along the road to PHRAE. They were selling everything from teak houses to wooden baskets. Last time we drove by the cooperative or whatever it was, was gone and we were told that they were back in their village. I forgot the name! However googling 'Phrae teak furniture' brings up a lot of results. Sorry about that.
No, I didn't notice any wood working tools on sale. I brought most of my stuff with me from back home fortunately but I did find Thai carpenter, http://www.thaicarpenter.com/ which seems to have everything you might need. A bit of a struggle getting through the website.  haven't visited there.
There is also http://www.tour-bangkok-legacies.com/soi-pracha-rat-24.html which I have also been threatening to visit for years but looks promising, Bangkok prices of course.
I'll be back up near Phrae during the next school holidays and can ask again
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 11, 2017, 06:56:35 AM
Davu I did find soi 24 a couple of weeks ago and spent half a day going shop to shop. Most of the hand crafted furniture is built off site now. There are some true lumber yards there where you can get real wood like oak maple pine and what appears to be quality plywood.

The doors we are having made for our house are coming from a shop in Phrae. They do beautiful work using real Teakwood.
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Post by: Freddy on July 11, 2017, 07:29:06 AM
Davu & DD. On the subject of wood you may be able to assist or advise. I've been trying to find some reasonable quality hardwood/ semi hardwood skirting board which has been a challenge. I'm after a minimum 5 inch, preferably 6 inch width, minimum 3m lengths half inch thick. Teak would be to expensive I think and possibly hard to get in the longer lengths. I want to laquer it so nice if it has some swirls/grain.
DD are you fitting skirting in your new house?


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Post by: davureborn on July 11, 2017, 08:18:10 AM
Davu & DD. On the subject of wood you may be able to assist or advise. I've been trying to find some reasonable quality hardwood/ semi hardwood skirting board which has been a challenge. I'm after a minimum 5 inch, preferably 6 inch width, minimum 3m lengths half inch thick. Teak would be to expensive I think and possibly hard to get in the longer lengths. I want to laquer it so nice if it has some swirls/grain.
DD are you fitting skirting in your new house?
For myself have been applying tiles vertically around the rooms instead of skirting board. We had a plague of ticks a few years ago so I tend to avoid using wood as a permanent fixture in the house. Yhe last load of wood i bought at the Tao place in Lamplaimat was not too good and too expensive i thought. The good lady in the Nong Bua Kok garden centre told us to buy our wood in Thamen Chai, which must be a big saw yard by the sounds of it, the next time. Probably happening this week actually.
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Post by: urleft on July 11, 2017, 08:21:46 AM
Freddy,

Be very careful if you transport Teak wood, seems there are a lot of Thai restrictions on it.  While I have no links to the issue a friend of mine relayed to me how when he bought several Teak trees he had to coordinate with several police departments on transporting the wood.   Part of the reason Teak is expensive. 

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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 11, 2017, 08:52:10 AM
Regarding trees yes you need proof of the permit obtained to cut the wood with red stamp indicating taxes have been paid, so I understand. As far as lumber from a yard no permit required. Local lumber yards have no real hardwood. The stuff from Laos is light as a feather.

Regarding skirting yes there are all sorts of hardwood trim as well as Teak curtain dowel shops on soi 24.

I can email some photos of a couple shops and a google pin drop if you are planning a trip. Don't have the patience to try to do it on here.

If you find decent wood on your trip to the local lumber yard you were referred to Davu please share that info. I am also interested in reclaimed wood.
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Post by: Freddy on July 11, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
For the teak furniture we just bought the shop we bought from had to complete a form and included on the form was our full address and Noi's full name. I asked about this and should I go and collect timber or more furniture in the future then the shop would complete this form for me and I would show to Polive if stopped. I have attached photo of the form/permit. Not sure if this is just a requirement for teak or if required for other woods.

DD. Can you elaborate on Soi 24 please. Where is it?
Also, are you able to share how much you've been quoted for internal teak doors. Place I bought our tables from are 8,000 per door which I thought quite reasonable for teak. Didn't include fitting, hard wear and laquer of course so each door will work out to around 10,000 I guess. I'm still considering whether to bite the bullet and change our doors or strip and re-finish our existing.

Davu. I have also considered and not yet discarded the idea of a tile skirting. Ticks and other wood eating bugs are a concern. I've already purchased the floor tile and may well go with a tile skirting if I can find something that will contrast nicely. If I can find teak at a reasonable price per meter it will probably be my first choice however may be out of budget. By the time I've done all the rooms, and architrave on doors it's a lot of wood.

Incidentally, may be of interest to others.
The shop we bought our tables from doesn't actually employ their carpenters/craftsmen directly. They contract them for each item depending on skill set. As and when I decide on doors, skirting, architrave etc and if teak a team of 2 can come from Chaing Mai, fit and finish everything. From my perspective I think worth considering. Once again, cost will be a factor but in the great scheme of things I think it probably wouldn't be to much.

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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 11, 2017, 08:52:14 PM
Regarding Teakwood doors I ordered with grade A lumber and heavy duty frames and sills. The shop is owned by a schoolmate of my wife's we may have gotten a sweet deal at under 8000 baht each. The double front door with glass surrounds is 55000 baht but it is larger size and again has grade A frame. They do sell Teakwood by the board so if you want to order and take delivery at same time as us you can save some shipping costs.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 11, 2017, 09:00:58 PM
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Soi 24 Bangkok
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 11, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
You can get teak oil with chandrite in it which works well. Thaiwatsado.
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Post by: Freddy on July 11, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
DD,
Thank you for the info. Certainly does sound like you've got a great deal on those doors. Under 8,000 including frame and sills is damn good going for Grade A Teak.
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Post by: davureborn on July 12, 2017, 05:20:42 AM
You can get teak oil with chandrite in it which works well. Thaiwatsado.

Teak oil is overrated and over priced, also it isn't somehow made from the teak tree. Professionals will use Tung oil or even linseed oil. Application isn't just a matter of splashing it on with a brush, it is or should be a two or three step job. AND. Real, good quality teak wood doesn't really need protection although there's nothing actually wrong with using a Chaindrite product I suppose.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 12, 2017, 06:13:50 AM
I'm still on a learning curve with the woodworking. I went to several stores looking to find out what percentage of actual teak oil was in each product. Most contain linseed oil and other ingredients. There is no oil made from the teak tree. It's just a marketing name. However it is a good protectant for most wood especially something kept outside.
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Post by: davureborn on July 12, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
I'm still on a learning curve with the woodworking. I went to several stores looking to find out what percentage of actual teak oil was in each product. Most contain linseed oil and other ingredients. There is no oil made from the teak tree. It's just a marketing name. However it is a good protectant for most wood especially something kept outside.
nag, nag, nag.... If you Google it, you will find that quite a few profis advise against using 'teak oil' for out of doors furniture, but maybe 'Teak oil' made in Thailand is different. Teak turns grey with time but there is a product for cleaning. I wonder if the orangy stuff they use here can't be tinted...
All wood workers are on a learning curve, I only recently learned how to cut plywood without ripping the edge.
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Post by: Freddy on July 12, 2017, 09:58:39 AM
The rails on my pergola are slotted in place so easy to pop out for treating or replacement if necessary. At some point I'm going to buy several products and just treat a few of the slats for comparison. See what has worked best after 6 months in the sun.
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Post by: Tassie on July 12, 2017, 10:19:15 AM
On the subject of Teak Oil here is a link.  http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/teak-oil-what-is-it
Regard
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Post by: Freddy on July 14, 2017, 12:26:49 PM
Davu or DD.
On subject of wood finishing. Is Danish Oil and/or Tung oil available here??
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 14, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
I haven't looked for it specifically but I don't remember ever seeing it.
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Post by: davureborn on July 14, 2017, 06:33:50 PM
Good question, he, he, I am still using the teak oil I naively bought when I first came here!. There are other tins that don't have teak oil written on them though...
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Post by: mahdam on July 14, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
Davu or DD.
On subject of wood finishing. Is Danish Oil and/or Tung oil available here??

I have bought Teak oil in Global House in Surin, so probably also available in the Buriram branch.
Mr Pichai may also have it at Ruangsangthia.
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Post by: Freddy on July 14, 2017, 08:07:45 PM
Yep, teak oil is everywhere. Danish and/or Tung oil not quite so easy here. May have found a company in Bangkok that makes thee own Tung oil. Will let you know.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 15, 2017, 08:09:01 AM
Yes Ruangsangthai now carries TOA brand teak oil and it is a couple hundred baht less than in the other store.
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Post by: Pichai on July 15, 2017, 10:18:25 AM
The TOA Teak oil I now stock is a direct result of a Buriram Expat request and payment at the time of order for the Teak oil which I had not previously carried on the shelf. This higher quality Teak Oil has proven to be a top seller in July 2017 at my Builders Merchants Store. The photo was taken today near the Solar PV Panel display at the front door of Ruangsangthai. Solar panels, inverters and DC well water pumps are a direct result of expats placing orders for items they were willing and able to pay in advance when placing a special order. I will continue to expand the selection of home building materials as expats place orders for items that are on the ground in Thailand. Thank you for your support. Mr. Pichai.
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Post by: Freddy on July 15, 2017, 02:26:49 PM
What is the price per gallon (5 litres).
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Post by: Pichai on July 15, 2017, 03:08:25 PM
Freddy: I sell the TOA Teak Oil as in the above photo for 1060 baht. List price printed on the can is much higher. I believe Buriram Home Pro sells this fine TOA Paint product for a 21% higher price. What only Ruangsangthia stocks are the genuine Honda quiet EU 20i and Honda EU10i Inverter power generators in Buriram province. Thank you for your support. Mr. Pichai.
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Post by: notrub on July 16, 2017, 08:37:24 AM
Sorry but I get Shark brand teak oil for around 300 per gallon at Thai Watsadu.  Don't know what is in it but it works OK for me.  They also sell TOA and other brands at the 1000 (plus) baht price range.
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Post by: davureborn on July 16, 2017, 06:23:17 PM
Sorry but I get Shark brand teak oil for around 300 per gallon at Thai Watsadu.  Don't know what is in it but it works OK for me.  They also sell TOA and other brands at the 1000 (plus) baht price range.

I'm a big fan of RST but I would have remembered paying over ฿1000 for a can of oil. I also bought at the same price at the same place, Thaiwatsadu.
Just goes to show that "Teak Oil" probably doesn't mean anything definite.
I now believe that the 'orangy tint' on much Thai furniture comes from using Tung oil. The manufacturers like to call it a golden tint.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 16, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
Yes you can get shark brand much cheaper and I use it for the first couple coats between sanding. Final coat is TOA mixed with chandrite. I suggest comparing the content label of each.
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Post by: DeputyDavid on July 16, 2017, 07:34:15 PM
You can get teak oil with chandrite in it which works well. Thaiwatsado.

Teak oil is overrated and over priced, also it isn't somehow made from the teak tree. Professionals will use Tung oil or even linseed oil. Application isn't just a matter of splashing it on with a brush, it is or should be a two or three step job. AND. Real, good quality teak wood doesn't really need protection although there's nothing actually wrong with using a Chaindrite product I suppose.

Davu you are correct. After reading the label I noted that if your hardwood is not properly rubbed you will not get the desired effect.
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Post by: davureborn on July 17, 2017, 05:52:35 AM
"Teak oil" gives plenty of results on YouTube.