Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Health, Body and Medicine => Topic started by: Kawa on January 18, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
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Afternoon All,
Does anybody know where its possible to get a covid test and fit to fly certificate (English language)in or around Buriram ?
I do know it?s possible in Korat,Bkk and Pattaya,but they come with added hazards.
Cheers in advance,
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Afternoon All,
Does anybody know where its possible to get a covid test and fit to fly certificate (English language)in or around Buriram ?
I do know it?s possible in Korat,Bkk and Pattaya,but they come with added hazards.
Cheers in advance,
Covid tests wee being done at the football stadium. This was for people travelling back to Buriram after having been in a red zone. Might be worth asking there.
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Thanks Gerry
in the meantime attached is an official list that i found.
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and more information about covid testing .
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and more information about covid testing .
A Thai reading member of my family suggests that could be an old announcement. It says that the service at Buriram Castle will cease from 1st July 2020.
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The only jab for immunity against Covid 19, that is actually working without causing death or serious side effects is the Russian Sputnik V. It is the world's first registered vaccine based on a well-studied human adenoviral vector-based platform. If I am forced to get a jab I will travel to Vladivostok and get a jab there.
Regards
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The only jab for immunity against Covid 19, that is actually working without causing death or serious side effects is the Russian Sputnik V. It is the world's first registered vaccine based on a well-studied human adenoviral vector-based platform. If I am forced to get a jab I will travel to Vladivostok and get a jab there.
Regards
A guy takes Russian vaccine against COVID-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2eQ_CKZT8
:biggrin:
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Loved the video. I thought people become supermen after consuming large quantities of vodka. On a more sombre tone, more than 12,400 people in Israel have tested positive for coronavirus after being vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab, including 69 who had received their second dose. Don?t go near this jab. Those tested did not have the corona virus before taking this jab. A number of people have died as a result of taking Pfizer/BioNTech .
Regards
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Loved the video. I thought people become supermen after consuming large quantities of vodka. On a more sombre tone, more than 12,400 people in Israel have tested positive for coronavirus after being vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab, including 69 who had received their second dose. Don't go near this jab. Those tested did not have the corona virus before taking this jab. A number of people have died as a result of taking Pfizer/BioNTech .
Regards
You are only telling half the strory.
Israel are the world leaders in vaccinating against Covid19. They have vaccinated near to 2 million people. So you say that 12400 people have contracted the virus after being vaccinated. I saw that story too. However, if you read other stories and not just the Israeli ones, you will see that 99.??% of them have only had the first dose and many caught Covid within 14 days of the vaccination. All of these factors had already been mentioned when Pfiizer rolled the vaccine out. (What was the published effectiveness? 93%) This is not a "OK I have had the jab now I can go out and not care" situation. It takes time for the vaccine to take effect.
You say some people died? The story that hit the headlines was the Norwegian one. If I remember, there were 29 deaths. Of those, all were over 80 and a good number were terminally ill with an unrelated health condition. I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
The %%% here are to be expected and should not be considered a game changer.
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I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
WOW!!
So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier
https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates
There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness
Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!
Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
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I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
WOW!!
So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier
https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates
There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness
Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!
Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.
I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.
With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.
If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.
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I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
WOW!!
So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier
https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates
There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness
Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!
Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.
I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.
With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.
If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.
Best of luck to you with your ideas
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I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
WOW!!
So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier
https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates
There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness
Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!
Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.
I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.
With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.
If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.
Best of luck to you with your ideas
Thanks.
Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.
At the same time there is a vaccine shortage. In your family there are you, wife 2 children and a grand child. All except for you are in good health. Sadly, your family have been told only 4 of you can get a vaccine. Who misses out?
I know what I would do and having put the scenario to a few others whilst out this evening, they all said the same
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I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
WOW!!
So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier
https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates
There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness
Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!
Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.
I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.
With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.
If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.
Best of luck to you with your ideas
Thanks.
Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.
At the same time there is a vaccine shortage. In your family there are you, wife 2 children and a grand child. All except for you are in good health. Sadly, your family have been told only 4 of you can get a vaccine. Who misses out?
I know what I would do and having put the scenario to a few others whilst out this evening, they all said the same
Oke whatIf that person, with that
Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.
Lives longer then the 6 months, and after the 6 months or let's say after 1 year gets covid and he dies from it because he didn't get the vaccine because it was denied to him/her?
Good choice you made then hu!!!
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As expected, iammike, you avoided answering question.
Lots of heresay in your reply.
It's quite obvious to most people who would miss out.
Your heresay could have the sick guy getting the vaccine, dying in 2 months and the grandkid dying of Covid19. I asked you to think about decision making at the time.
So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
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So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
We don't have to make that choice and it's easy for people to say they will do something but when it comes down to it, I think not many will make the same decision they said they would do! And especially in a case of life and death!
So that's why Doctor's make that decision!
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So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
We don't have to make that choice and it's easy for people to say they will do something but when it comes down to it, I think not many will make the same decision they said they would do! And especially in a case of life and death!
So that's why Doctor's make that decision!
So now you see my point?
That is exactly the decision that was made. Norway are struggling to get enough vaccine to go round, as most countries are. They are making these decisions.
Sadly there becomes a point of "survival of the fitest".
If I had a terminal illness I would take the decision away from everyone and refuse the vaccine.
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So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
We don't have to make that choice and it's easy for people to say they will do something but when it comes down to it, I think not many will make the same decision they said they would do! And especially in a case of life and death!
So that's why Doctor's make that decision!
So now you see my point?
That is exactly the decision that was made. Norway are struggling to get enough vaccine to go round, as most countries are. They are making these decisions.
Sadly there becomes a point of "survival of the fitest".
If I had a terminal illness I would take the decision away from everyone and refuse the vaccine.
If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it, BUT If the Doctor makes me choose to deny or give the vaccine to a Terminally Ill patient, I would give it to them and NOT deny it, they have the same right to live as anyone else.
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So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
We don't have to make that choice and it's easy for people to say they will do something but when it comes down to it, I think not many will make the same decision they said they would do! And especially in a case of life and death!
So that's why Doctor's make that decision!
So now you see my point?
That is exactly the decision that was made. Norway are struggling to get enough vaccine to go round, as most countries are. They are making these decisions.
Sadly there becomes a point of "survival of the fitest".
If I had a terminal illness I would take the decision away from everyone and refuse the vaccine.
If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it, BUT If the Doctor makes me choose to deny or give the vaccine to a Terminally Ill patient, I would give it to them and NOT deny it, they have the same right to live as anyone else.
I have never asked to deny a terminally I'll patient a vaccine right out. I was suggesting that there are others who could make better use of it.
It seems this whole conversation is based on you not interpreting my comment correctly.
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Maybe, but did you not wrote
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
Doctor's have made the decision to give it them
Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath ?
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Maybe, but did you not wrote
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
Doctor's have made the decision to give it them
Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath ?
Yes, I did write that. However, it was a question and not statement.
Ethics is a good subject to bring up as this falls right into it. Decisions doctors need to make based on ethics.
I believe it would be ethical to try to prolong a life of a healthy person rather than one who has been given less than 6 months to live.
Based on your comment here "If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it," I believe you do too.
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Maybe, but did you not wrote
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
Doctor's have made the decision to give it them
Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath ?
Yes, I did write that. However, it was a question and not statement.
Ethics is a good subject to bring up as this falls right into it. Decisions doctors need to make based on ethics.
I believe it would be ethical to try to prolong a life of a healthy person rather than one who has been given less than 6 months to live.
Based on your comment here "If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it," I believe you do too.
IMHO a healthy person has a better fighting chance to beat Covid-19 (without the vaccine) then a terminally ILL patient. so IMHO a terminally ill patient deserves the Covid vaccine (maybe) more then a healthy person!
Yes. I would deny it if I was terminally Ill, BUT I would never deny another person a Vaccine just because they are terminally Ill (or whaever other reason).
Edit: Added (without the Vaccine)
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Maybe, but did you not wrote
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
Doctor's have made the decision to give it them
Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath ?
Yes, I did write that. However, it was a question and not statement.
Ethics is a good subject to bring up as this falls right into it. Decisions doctors need to make based on ethics.
I believe it would be ethical to try to prolong a life of a healthy person rather than one who has been given less than 6 months to live.
Based on your comment here "If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it," I believe you do too.
IMHO a healthy person has a better fighting chance to beat Covid-19 (without the vaccine) then a terminally ILL patient. so IMHO a terminally ill patient deserves the Covid vaccine (maybe) more then a healthy person!
Yes. I would deny it if I was terminally Ill, BUT I would never deny another person a Vaccine just because they are terminally Ill (or whaever other reason).
Edit: Added (without the Vaccine)
You are misunderstanding me once again. I am not saying that people should be denied a vaccine. I am questioning how to prioritise. Most countries are prioritising certain groups. Usually by age and occupation. I don't see you arguing about that.
It is my opinion, and that of many others, that those that are terminally ill should be considered a lesser priority.
There are reports of shortages of vaccines in EU, Italy are particularly worried. Time to trim the priority list? Who goes first?
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Maybe, but did you not wrote
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?
Doctor's have made the decision to give it them
Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath ?
Yes, I did write that. However, it was a question and not statement.
Ethics is a good subject to bring up as this falls right into it. Decisions doctors need to make based on ethics.
I believe it would be ethical to try to prolong a life of a healthy person rather than one who has been given less than 6 months to live.
Based on your comment here "If I was terminally Ill I would do the same as you, and refuse it," I believe you do too.
IMHO a healthy person has a better fighting chance to beat Covid-19 (without the vaccine) then a terminally ILL patient. so IMHO a terminally ill patient deserves the Covid vaccine (maybe) more then a healthy person!
Yes. I would deny it if I was terminally Ill, BUT I would never deny another person a Vaccine just because they are terminally Ill (or whaever other reason).
Edit: Added (without the Vaccine)
You are misunderstanding me once again. I am not saying that people should be denied a vaccine. I am questioning how to prioritise. Most countries are prioritising certain groups. Usually by age and occupation. I don't see you arguing about that.
It is my opinion, and that of many others, that those that are terminally ill should be considered a lesser priority.
There are reports of shortages of vaccines in EU, Italy are particularly worried. Time to trim the priority list? Who goes first?
I agree 100%........................... a priority list is exactly what it says - the contentious point is in compiling that list and, personally, I would not prioritise the terminal ill. Even that is too bland a statement because people can be terminally ill but with a longer life expectancy than someone who is, say, bedridden in a hospice and only a short time to live.
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So basically ,judging by all the off topic posts ! oldmanwithstick oldmanwithstick
Know one is aware of any places local this can be done? nowinkbar nowinkbar nowinkbar nowinkbar
Oh well never mind
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I saw a report saying that BKK hospital in Korat do it.
All documentation issued in English too. I believe the fee is 4500 baht.