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Buriram Province - General Category => Dating / Personals & Everything between them. => Topic started by: KeesM on June 29, 2011, 12:15:51 AM
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Hello, my name is Kees, from Holland. Age 58. Working as data analist with an energy company. I have visited Thailand until now only 3 times. Before I was going for years to India. Met a nice girl in Pattaya (yes, I know all the stories, stop warning me. I take the risk). Her family lives in Phimai. And she wanted to start a shop in Buriram. So, here I am. Trying to get as much information about Buriram as I can. I will be there in october, and - if I can convince my boss - after that, I want to use the cycle: work 3 monthes and come 1 month to Buriram until I get my pension.
Because she speaks as much English as I speak Thai, we of course have some serious problems communicating. I am trying to learn a little Thai although I was warned not to do that. smilenod Because of the very difficult pronounciation.
I will probably come back with questions about the situation with my girlfriend later. There's a lot I need to know, but maybe I can start with 2 questions here:
1. Is there a place where she can take English lessons?
2. She is staying with her daughter (4years) with family now, which are asking her 7000 Baht/month to stay there. Is that a reasonable price?
That's it for now, see you later.
Kees
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Hello, my name is Kees, from Holland. Age 58. Working as data analist with an energy company. I have visited Thailand until now only 3 times. Before I was going for years to India. Met a nice girl in Pattaya (yes, I know all the stories, stop warning me. I take the risk). Her family lives in Phimai. And she wanted to start a shop in Buriram. So, here I am. Trying to get as much information about Buriram as I can. I will be there in october, and - if I can convince my boss - after that, I want to use the cycle: work 3 monthes and come 1 month to Buriram until I get my pension.
Because she speaks as much English as I speak Thai, we of course have some serious problems communicating. I am trying to learn a little Thai although I was warned not to do that. smilenod Because of the very difficult pronounciation.
I will probably come back with questions about the situation with my girlfriend later. There's a lot I need to know, but maybe I can start with 2 questions here:
1. Is there a place where she can take English lessons?
2. She is staying with her daughter (4years) with family now, which are asking her 7000 Baht/month to stay there. Is that a reasonable price?
That's it for now, see you later.
Kees
Welcome to the Forum. welcome1 party11
About the financial question you are asking,I think 7000 Baht/month is fair.
English lessons in Buriram:
Please check our Classifieds section as there are some private English lessons offers.
'English Center' (Soi Hanchana,Nai muang Buriram) is also another place she can try and learn English.
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Hi KeesM
Welcome
Re your post I would certainly try to learn some Thai at least numbers so that you can negotiate and not get ripped off.
As for rental Baht 7,000 sounds steep when you compare with this house rental! ~~~~
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Take care
TBWG sawadi
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I think the 7,000 baht a month is very far out there! A Thai with university education and a good job makes 8,000 a month or less. One can rent an excellent apartment for 3,000 baht a month.
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Doesn'e state what she gets for the 7000.
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More relevantly, what does HE get?
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Guys, I can't believe these are your advices....
Do you really recommend him to support the one he love for 3000-4000 Baht?
You know its not realistic and can't be done, even the low wages of Thai workers are hardly enough to survive.
I have to add of course that this support should be only if you feel the relationship is genuine and real.
If you have any doubts you should reconsider the whole idea of financial support.
+If someone is taking a girl from these areas (assuming the relationship is real,genuine,true love), the financial support is part of the deal because otherwise the girl wouldn't even be in the place he found her so need to think and feel the person.
sawadi
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The OP said that his wife was paying 7000 to stay with family.
That is what we are saying is expensive. There was no mention of how much to give her a month. What does she get for 7000 baht? If it is only a room and she is paying other things on top then it IS expensive. That is what we are saying.
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hi Kees ,
I think it is communication as the 7,000 is more likely for her to take care of her and baby. You will find if you wish her not to go back to pattaya she will need to have some money each month. if this is all you have to pay each month this is reasonable i know many who pay a lot more for less. I gave my wife when we meet 10,000 to finish her work and live with me in Australia as she sent 5000 every month to her family long before I met her and now married she still does the same. Hope this helps
bananadance newbie
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The OP said that his wife was paying 7000 to stay with family.
That is what we are saying is expensive. There was no mention of how much to give her a month. What does she get for 7000 baht? If it is only a room and she is paying other things on top then it IS expensive. That is what we are saying.
I think it is most probably the language barrier making him understand its the rent.
I think its the allowance.
sawadi
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When she was working in Pattaya she was probably sending back 1,000/2,000 Baht to the family to look after her child. (Unless, of course, the father is contributing !).
If Kees is paying 7,000 Baht as a 'salary' to her then he is doing OK.
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Having read Kees post several times I believe that he does know what the money is for. He mentions the family are asking for 7000 from his partner.
I think the family are on the take.
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Having read Kees post several times I believe that he does know what the money is for. He mentions the family are asking for 7000 from his partner.
I think the family are on the take.
I would tend to agree but would reserve judgement until I knew about any other payments that are being made.
This will eventually turn into a sin sod thread ! ;D
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ok, didn't want to bring it up already but I see a lot of assumptions for, to me, unclear reason, so:
I have sent her money to buy a shop. 300.000 Baht. From here I cannot verify anything. But I trust her, so I believe she will have bought the shop. On her own name. Then she needed money for the trade goods. I sent another 150.000 Baht. (btw: I didn't have that, had to take a loan from the bank)
But apparently she can only use it as shop and not also as a house to live in. So she needs to stay with family. I was thinking they would try to help her as much as possible, but got the idea now that they are trying to make a big as possible profit from it, thinking that I am rich. But I won't accuse people until I know the truth, so maybe 7000 Baht is reasonable, I do not know. But I do know it's a lot of money which a normal Thai cannot make each month. For that money I suppose she gets food, sleeping place, use of the house, toilet, bathroom for her and her daughter. But maybe I understood it wrong, hopefully next saturday I can get more clear information.
1 more thing is, initially she would go sell fertiliser, but now she says she is selling rice. And her family had already a rice-shop in Phimai, so that makes me expect that she bought the rice from the family. Another point which makes me a little conspicious about the intentions of the family. All in all: I think she is ok, but I am not sure of the family.
1 other point: yes, I found her in a bar, but she is NOT the typical bargirl. According to the other bargirls, I have been her only customer. And 1 example you have here under your nose now: a normal bargirl wants you to buy a house. This one wanted me to buy a shop so she could make her own living! I have a lot more things experienced which pointed to this being an honest girl. I know I still could be wrong, only time will tell.
But no more "bartalk" please.
Well, while we are busy now, maybe I can put the next question already.
Suppose she indeed has to pay 7000 Baht each month to her family. Then I want her to get out of there. She cannot earn that with the shop and for the next few years I cannot pay that. remember: first I have to pay off the bankloan:15000 Baht/month. And I am supporting people in India, i.e. I pay school for about 15 children.
Easiest would be when she could also use the shop as house. So the question is: is that allowed in Thailand? For what I understand it should be big enough to make 1 or 2 more rooms (has now 1 room and a toilet).
This of course also means: renting an appartment for 7000 Baht is also out of reach. Should indeed be near 3000-4000 Baht. I know a lot of them in Pattaya but have no idea whether some are available in Buriram for this price.
And last: thank you already for some very usefull information. I called her this morning and after some (confusing as usual biggreen) conversation, I think she understood that I would go look for someone who can teach her English, and she agreed. So first thing now: I an trying to make contact with a teacher.
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I think I need to sleep on this before composing a considered response.
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KeeM, before you get the 'you're being robbed responses' let me just say:
Thai people often sleep in their shops, depending on where the shop is. Its common to live in, behind or over the shop. Did you get to see a photo of the shop ?, you could see for yourself if it is suitable to live in. But then again you can't blame her for wanting to stay with her family.
Everyone on this forum knows that Thai women with farangs are expected to give money to their families. But I have never heard it described as paying to live with their family. That sounds more like rent and that doesn't fit the normal family situation. But as she comes from a Bar (no offence meant, I'm in the same boat) you will have to take over the payments she was making to her family if you don't want her to go back to Pattaya. But as you have just purchased a shop and stocked it with goods, basically giving her a little business, then asking for an additional 7,000 baht a month, they seem a 'Grabby' bit to me. What size family does she need to support ? .. and are you the first farang in the family ?, if so, how is the other one doing ?
In the end I hope it works out for you ... but just to let you know My wife was reading this last night with me and when I asked her what she tought ... she said hasip hasip (50/50) at best. She also said that if you had to get a loan from your bank to give your girlfriend money, why didn't you tell her that it was a loan and not your mountains of expendible cash. If she (or her family) thinks you are rich, then my wife's advice is tell her now that you are not.
How soon are you planning to go to Buriram ? The second time I went to Buriram to see my wife (then my girlfriend) I didn't let her know I was coming. I turned up as a 'surprise', but really I was looking around for evidence of many male lodgers/or any obvious wastes of my money/did she f@#k off back to pattaya without telling me. I didn't see anything suspicious and she was delighted that I surprised her. I felt much more secure afterward. Might be worth your while looking for cheap flights.
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Hope that helps ... BTW If you go on ANY Expat forum in Thailand and say that your girlfriend was a Bar Girl, but she is NOT the same as the rest, then you are inviting abuse from other members. "but shes different" Those are famous last words in Thailand.
Also, for the record, when I met my wife first all the other dancers told me that she had just started work that week and I was her first. That was Bullsh1t and I would guess that in your case it is Bullsh1t too, so I wouldn't put too much weight in that, it is just something that they say. Eitherway, It doesn't matter, what matters now is what happens from now on.
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Hello Paddy,
let's skip the bar business for now. I will probably tell that later in another chat. I know all the stories.
So, I also know that families expect or at least try (most of the time?) to "rob" the farang. At first I was immediately suspicious about the family but in later days also got signs that it might be good people. Maybe there's still a good explanation for the 7000 Baht they ask. My conclusion about wanting to get her out of there then, was a bit to hasty. I first need more information. And that she rather wants to stay with family
instead of alone in her shop, I definitely can understand. I wouldn't mind if I could easily afford it, which is not the case. And, she knows that. I DID tell her I had to get a loan from the bank and she knows I have to pay that back monthly. We have first tried whether she could get a bankloan herself but that was impossible.
I have asked several time for pictures, but because of our communication problems I cannot explain how she can get it to me. But when I asked for the shop, the answer was:"You know shop Phimai? same, same."
The money she's paying is to my opinion for costs of living there. The people she really needs to support are a father in a village (mother died last year) who only gets little money from her, and a pregnant sister (seen her, so that's true) who will get a baby in 6-8 weeks. Already had a mis-birth once, so we agreed she better stopped working. But until now she lives in Phimai and wants to come to Buriram, so the costs will rise even more.
If I am the first farang in the family? Got the idea I was the first farang ever in her village near Phimai. Within no time I was surrounded by all the women of the village. They told me there had never been a farang there, well I certainly got that impression. Was about the same what has happened to me some times in India.
India is even much more worse than Thailand. So the feeling of being "robbed" is already for years quite common to me. So I may be quite new to Thailand, I am not that goodbelieving. I realize it can take years before I really know if I can trust her. But then: according to the stories I have heard, compared to those, if things would turn out wrong, I am not loosing that much money.
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to everybody:
administrators have a good reputation according to me. So I understand that my - not mentioned before - presumption that 5000 Baht/month is an amount of which a family can live in Thailand is to low nowadays?
Also, I get the idea that some people are regarding this as "buying a relationship". I rather would see that different. Initially I came to Thailand to just have some fun with girls and go back. A serious relation was NOT planned but life took an unexpected turn. It's easier for me to stick to the old plan: have fun, spend some money, go home. No responsibilities. But this girl I like very much and I want to help her. This is not: I pay, so you are mine. If it turns out to a fine ongoing relation, that would be very nice. If not, I will not regret the loss of my money, I will only see it as an expensive lesson, but still will have the idea I at least helped someone. (supposed she indeed did buy the shop) ((and another crack in my heart, of course.))
regards,
Kees (to pronounce in English as "case")
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well I can see you are sucked in and in such a short time have wasted 500,000 baht this is 50 months at 10,000 per month until you work out if this relationship is true or you are one of many how these girls have two or three men who come at different times. You were worried about the 7,000 but fell for a shop and what experience she has to run it ?
I can tell you I know many who have done the same and the family take the stock and profit.
Any way it is good you have no more money as it will go as well.
I will say not all are like this and I may be wrong but the speed of this transaction I would say I am right and if wrong would love to buy you a beer or two when you are here.
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300,000bt to "buy" a shop and a further 150,000bt to stock it! Hmm. Not sure you could buy a shop for 300,000bt!
If the shop really exists, and the girl is unable to live there, she is presumably travelling to and fro each day from her parents home. Phimai. Now that is some fair distance -probably 1 hour by car, and at least double that using public transport. Do you really believe she is doing that trip every day?
Might I suggest you find out the exact location of the shop, and perhaps one or more of the Buriram sleuths can go take a look, and see if it really exists. i HAVE MY DOUBTS!
I have been here longer than most, seen it all, and there is much in your posts that ring alarm bells. SORRY.
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300,000bt to "buy" a shop and a further 150,000bt to stock it! Hmm. Not sure you could buy a shop for 300,000bt!
If the shop really exists, and the girl is unable to live there, she is presumably travelling to and fro each day from her parents home. Phimai. Now that is some fair distance -probably 1 hour by car, and at least double that using public transport. Do you really believe she is doing that trip every day?
Might I suggest you find out the exact location of the shop, and perhaps one or more of the Buriram sleuths can go take a look, and see if it really exists. i HAVE MY DOUBTS!
I have been here longer than most, seen it all, and there is much in your posts that ring alarm bells. SORRY.
Things certainly don't add up. Or should I say they add up to too much.
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Investing too fast and too much is never a good idea.
I hope its a true love you got there, I'm with the other members here saying there are alarms and red color all over your story but who are we to judge love of people we really don't know.
I wish you best luck with it and it will be very interesting to hear more about how this story ends/develops.
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Send in Sherlock to confirm the facts.
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the facts are the facts and you have to realize this you spend enough money for her to live for 4 years on an idea this business will work ? I have to say you lost your money but it is not her fault it is yours for falling for it you should ahve asked before you sent it and I f I am wrong again I will buy you a few beers but i am sure I am not !
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Sorry mate but you've been rolled over big style,,,,,,,,You are one of the 'greenest' guys I've heard about for quite some time,,,,,,,Just one question does she have a 'brother'?
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you would think these guys would be smart enough to check here first before just handing out the money for the record if you think of doing what Kees has done donate to this site for a party you will get more for your money and great advice
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Once Kees finds an English teacher (female) for his tirac, and she has had a few lessons, she might be able to tell him where the money has gone!
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Once Kees finds an English teacher (female) for his tirac, and she has had a few lessons, she might be able to tell him where the money has gone!
i CAN TELL HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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do you think he will get the correct answer
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KeesM: I think you are in what they called Thailand fever now and cuz of your age you simply would do anything your love asked, regardless who or where you meet the person you believe she is suitable to be your mate for the rest of your remaining life in Amazing Thailand, How you meet her or where or what her job before is worthless cuz you chooses her.
I think you should stop pay for anything for now and go stay with her & her family, live there full time during your monthly holiday and learn what you get for every, 1B you pay, you come to this forum cuz you think you are loosing money for nothing and ask for help, you already lost some money but I believe the girl is genuine, Now answer me have visited her family? Did you visit the shop she opened from your money?
Regards.
Puba
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If you learned to read Pubes you knew the most things you're asking now.
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If you learned to read Pubes you knew the most things you're asking now.
Thank you to remind me, I will re-read the whole posts again.
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Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.A fairytale indeed.
Someone who shells out 500k wouldnt be overly concerned about 7000 a month.
Also the comments a loan was required yet still wanting to pay 7000 a month
Suggests someones telling porkies
Maybe we should call this thread a Buriram Tragedy bananadance
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Where are you Kees?
Defend yourself. Maybe all is OK, and we are all a load of TWATS!
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Anyone who thinks this story is real need a reality check.
And a Buriram Pie swordfight
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Anyone who thinks this story is real need a reality check.
And a Buriram Pie swordfight
The story could be real its just that he is a bigger 'Idiot' than the ones we normally hear about
You should try one of Nookies Pork Pies,the best you'll find in Thailand
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smithy99.....Sorry I don't understand.
What is this obsession with Buriram Pies. As I understand it they are very good, but why mention it on this particular thread?
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Kees, You must get yourself back here to answer some questions otherwise you will be consider as Troll.
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Guys, Kees sent me a PM, I think he mistaked and actually wanted to post it in the forum..
Thank you for your answers and advices.
I am already long time used to getting on forums a mix of normal and ridiculous answers. It's not different here, but I am glad with the people who are trying to help me. Too bad that other people are making much more of it then what I am stating.
Because of your well-meant answers, I will try to explain a little. I thought about telling how I met her and why she is not the same bargirl type in chat, but that will only bring up more nonsense discussions. So I am going to skip that part.
Well: I am already going for years to India, to try to help people overthere. Which resulted in lots and lots of people doing their best to get money from me. Everybody had his/her own sad story. 9 times out of 10 fake of course. Very hard to find people you can really trust. About 1 in 1000, or so. ;-)
So, I am not as dumb as I look. (I hope)
The bar she was working: I have never seen a customer leaving with a bargirl. In that bar it never happened, people also told me. Second: I had to try several times and needed help from an other Thai female friend of me, to get her to come to my hotelroom. And then she only came on days that she was free. Doesn't sound like an ordinary bargirl, does it? So I am more confident then suspicious, let's hope for the best.
best regards,
Kees
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"The bar she was working: I have never seen a customer leaving with a bargirl. In that bar it never happened, people also told me. Second: I had to try several times and needed help from an other Thai female friend of me, to get her to come to my hotelroom. And then she only came on days that she was free. "
A rather contradictory statement.
Never saw a customer leaving with a girl, yet he managed to off his special girl!
Kees needs to fast forward to the present day - ie his girlfriends supposed shop in Buriram. Is there one? is she selling fertiliser or rice or what?
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Kees, she's not, by any chance, about 5'2' with brown eyes and black hair is she ?
I cannot believe the coincidence that we have both got girls from a bar that are 'different'.
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I just believe what I've just read from Kees,he is thicker than a lump of 6 x 4
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Its all bullshit,just a wind up.whoever falls for this needs to get off the Leo for a while.
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Anyone who thinks this story is real need a reality check.
And a Buriram Pie swordfight
The story could be real its just that he is a bigger 'Idiot' than the ones we normally hear about
You should try one of Nookies Pork Pies,the best you'll find in Thailand
It could be real yes,when did you last see a pig fly?
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The thread could also be renamed as below.
The Invisible Woman.
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Its all bullshit,just a wind up.whoever falls for this needs to get off the Leo for a while.
Oh, I don't know - there are some idiots around
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Almog, What about a poll: Does Kees and his Girl exist ? Yes or No. mhihi
Personally, I would not be surprised if it was true. You hear stories like that all the time. Even stranger, it is possible (but not likely) that not only does she exist, but her shop exists too. You never know, this is the Land of Surprises after all.
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I have no doubt the girlfriend exists, and that she received the 450,000bt. Whether there is a stocked shop in Buriram, is another matter altogether.
If Kees would like to advise the location of the shop, I or no doubt others from Buriram would be prepared to have a look-see, which might put Kees mind to rest.
We might even purchase some fertiliser! :o
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I am going to Buriram tomorrow, I volunteer to check her out.
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Just helping a Falang out who's wife of 7 years tried to kick him out once he had built a 7m Baht house.
The house probably cost nearer to 3.5m to build. He did have the sense to take a 30 year lease so when there was a meeting with the lawyer and local BiB, she was told she had to go.
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My girlfriend has just spoken to Kees girlfriend on the phone, she does exist and she does appear very genuine so maybe we can draw a close to this topic. I am sure Kees will agree.
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I dont believe for one minute this thread is true.
Whats the address of the shop then Tommo ?
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Hahaha like I am gonna tell you that! You have the right to believe whatever you want to.
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My girlfriend has just spoken to Kees girlfriend on the phone, she does exist and she does appear very genuine so maybe we can draw a close to this topic. I am sure Kees will agree.
Why close it ?
Kees was the one asking questions.
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Whatever!
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Hahaha like I am gonna tell you that! You have the right to believe whatever you want to.
Enough said
Total fabrication.
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Whatever!
Limpest comment of the day award !
Reminds me of my teenage daughter :D :D
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My girlfriend has just spoken to Kees girlfriend on the phone, she does exist and she does appear very genuine so maybe we can draw a close to this topic. I am sure Kees will agree.
Why was Kees looking for an English teacher when you, as his his mate, will be here in October with your TEFL certificate starting an English school ?
Do you not speak very often ?
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I think I've said enough now.
I quite simply tried to make someone, who I have never met. Feel a little more secure about a personal choice that they made.
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I think I've said enough now.
I quite simply tried to make someone, who I have never met. Feel a little more secure about a personal choice that they made.
Agree.
We had enough.
Good luck to the OP.
sawadi
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I think I've said enough now.
I quite simply tried to make someone, who I have never met. Feel a little more secure about a personal choice that they made.
Owned redman
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I think I've said enough now.
I quite simply tried to make someone, who I have never met. Feel a little more secure about a personal choice that they made.
Owned redman
The OP has requested me to open the topic and he will reply soon so be patient and don't put the negative posts until you hear him. :)
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I think I've said enough now.
I quite simply tried to make someone, who I have never met. Feel a little more secure about a personal choice that they made.
Owned redman
The OP has requested me to open the topic and he will reply soon so be patient and don't put the negative posts until you hear him. :)
Quite right - we are here to help him - if he wants help.
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yes I think we all want to help but we need the truth not the half truth bigok
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party3 cheergirl
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party3 cheergirl
Because differences of time zones the OP said he will reply tonight around 1:00-2:00am.
Hold your breath and sit tight until then! knuppel2
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Bated Breath punk
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OK, I am early today, had a allday meeting instead of work. So here's my reply:
Yes, I was the 1 to ask a question. Too bad nearly nobody read the question right.
I was NOT the 1 to start this discussion. The question was simple: is 7000 baht/month a normal fee for cost and living. And then a bunch ppl overhere made a total different discussion about that, asking me questions which had nothing to do with my question. Also assuming lots of things with no ground. Having opinions without knowing anything but their own assumptions.
You didnt see me for a few days, because some ppl already got answers from me by email, and I am normally not responding to answers I regard as attacks or unfriendly.
But Ok ,I am used to this kind of bullshit, but I am happy that also some normal, nice people try to give me good advice and or help. By now you know already that thanks to Tommo I found someone to go teach my girlfriend English. So you could already assume that the shop does exist, because that teacher is going there.
I know I have the odds against me. I know all the stories. And yet I gave a girl money. I know the risk, but then: compared to a mentioned house, it's not that much money. I am not that foolish as a lot of people here assume. I can count. And for 450.000 baht, I took the risk that - how small YOU may think the chance is - I might be lucky to find an honest girl.
I know you all have seen turn it out bad many times. And I do understand completely that your trust in a happy ending is very low.... But I might be the lucky one.
Everybody here who was sincere in giving me answers to help me: thank you very much.
Sorry I am a little late. In the beginning I got each time a message that there was a reply. Didnt get it the last few days, so I supposed there were no more answers, so I missed a big part of the let's call it 'discussion'.
Also, I am not entering yes-no discussions. Until further prooven to be incorrect, I fully trust my girlfriend.
O, and Seaby: yes, I could have paid money for costs of living for 4 years. Then after 4 years the money is also gone, nothing left; and now at least there still is a shop. Still looks better to me.
TBWG: yes, I am trying to learn some Thai. Very difficult by computer because they do not pronounce the words slow. And when I look up words in a dictionary, I pronounce them 7 times out of 10 not good so she doesn't understand me.
regards,
Kees
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Hi Kees - good to have you back.
So where EXACTLY is the shop so we can check it out for you.
How much are you paying for the monthly allowance - that we all pay. This is separate from the 7,000 Baht to be with parents,.....
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Hello Coffee,
1. no need to check it out.
2. I don't pay monthly allowance. She wanted a shop so she could make an own living, and I gave her one. But because she actually lived in Phimai, she now has to stay with family to be able to run her shop. Ofcourse they need money for food and so. I only wanted to know a fair price. She is paying that herself. (as long as possible). I suppose soon I will have to jump in, because the shop will need time to attract enough customers. As soon as the shops runs well enough, she doesn't need my money anymore.
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Hi OP, In Thai culture they say tam dee dai dee, tam shua dai shua, I think you made your decision already and need no more advice. good luck.
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KeesM, I think B7000 are worthless now days esp if she have family, I believe it is fair pay for your loved one.
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Jackanory
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Are you sitting comfortably..............
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Kees,
I kept out of this subject previously as it seemed to go Off Topic very quickly :)
In answer to your specific question my wife sends her mother 8000 THB per month to support her son (he does not live with us) and to help pay for a motorbike bought with a loan and other living expenses.
I personally think that 7000 THB towards living expenses is not excessive.
Mike
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The point was Mike, that Kees never made it clear exactly what the 7000bt was for.
"2. She is staying with her daughter (4years) with family now, which are asking her 7000 Baht/month to stay there. Is that a reasonable price?"
This is largely what has led to the all out assault by some posters.
If indeed the money is used in similar fashion to your 8000 a month, this begs the question of whether she is an only child, and making the sole contribution, or whether other siblings have opted out of helping the family because a "rich" farang has appeared on the scene!
What was she contributing before Kees arrived from her "work bar no go with farangs" job. Probably next to nothing! And if the family have a rice shop in Phimai, do they really need an extra 7000bt a month?
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Nick,
I really do not want to get into a discussion about this as al I wanted to do is to answer the question, However is Kees last post on this subject he clarifed enough for me to understand by stating.
The question was simple: is 7000 baht/month a normal fee for cost and living.
I may be wrong on this but this is the cost of living for her and her son living in the parental house and if she was not living there then there would be nothing to pay. Perhaps Kees could clarify this rather than everyone ass-u-me-ing something different :)
Mike
PS - Just to clarify one point the 8000THB that my wife gives her family for support as I outlined previously is her money that she gets from her job and is not my money.
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I agree that Kees last post does make things clearer than his first post.
The question asked -is it reasonable, does rather depend on who else is chipping in, or shirking their responsibilities because it is felt that Kees can do the necessary.
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Its all fabrication
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Its all fabrication
The OP's post or his GF's story ?
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Is this soap still running ?!? bravo1
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Surely if the GF is selling either fertiliser, or rice -or whatever, it would be in her, and Kees interest to tell BE members where the shop is so that those interested might make a purchase.
We all like to support forum members!
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Surely if the GF is selling either fertiliser, or rice -or whatever, it would be in her, and Kees interest to tell BE members where the shop is so that those interested might make a purchase.
We all like to support forum members!
I need some rice.
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Give him a break! chairhit
He put his comment and that's it. If I was him I wouldn't tell you the girlfriend exact address either! confused4
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Kees seems to be more sure it's true now, beceause of Tommo, so who are we, or some of us to still doubt his girl or Kees his story?
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Because there isnt one
Jackanory
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Surely if the GF is selling either fertiliser, or rice -or whatever, it would be in her, and Kees interest to tell BE members where the shop is so that those interested might make a purchase.
We all like to support forum members!
There is no price on hot air thumbup
Fabrication
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Give him a break! chairhit
He put his comment and that's it. If I was him I wouldn't tell you the girlfriend exact address either! confused4
Give hima Kit -Kat
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Kees seems to be more sure it's true now, beceause of Tommo, so who are we, or some of us to still doubt his girl or Kees his story?
Deluded
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Because its all bollocks
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Hope you can sleep tonight Smithy.
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Because its all bollocks
Blimey Smithy, you seem determined to increase your post count.
Don't suppose you could possibly put all your thoughts - together - in one post ?
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smithy99. You are getting close to the next level of members group!!!!! Keep posting! redman
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Thats probably the purpose of the thread
cheergirl
Jackanory
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Troll or spammer might be a better terms to be used now. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Well u lot i cant stop lol. If its true we all end up with egg on our faces. If its a wind up then Kees wins. Its just another thai story i think so lets just have a good lol theres been loads of them over the yrs.
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Well u lot i cant stop lol. If its true we all end up with egg on our faces. If its a wind up then Kees wins. Its just another thai story i think so lets just have a good lol theres been loads of them over the yrs.
I meant smithy99 TELLBOY. Sorry for the mix up.
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Nick,
I really do not want to get into a discussion about this as al I wanted to do is to answer the question, However is Kees last post on this subject he clarifed enough for me to understand by stating.
The question was simple: is 7000 baht/month a normal fee for cost and living.
I may be wrong on this but this is the cost of living for her and her son living in the parental house and if she was not living there then there would be nothing to pay. Perhaps Kees could clarify this rather than everyone ass-u-me-ing something different :)
Mike
PS - Just to clarify one point the 8000THB that my wife gives her family for support as I outlined previously is her money that she gets from her job and is not my money.
Hello Mike,
thank you, those are clear answers.
We have a misunderstanding still here about: family - family.
Ppl here assume family means: father and mother. I thought I already mentioned that THAT family is living in Phimai, and she is now living with what we in Europe call family (aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, whatever more) in Buriram. So 7000 Baht seems not out of proportion, I understand.
And for what den_Buut says: Yep. there is no more need to check things, because Tommo's girlfriend will meet her soon. Thank you for your support den_Buut. :)
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Give him a break! chairhit
He put his comment and that's it. If I was him I wouldn't tell you the girlfriend exact address either! confused4
indeed. not going to happen. :)
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The mystery deepens.
Kees now tells us that his girl is NOT paying 7000bt to his girls parents (No 1 family), but instead to her No 2 family, living in the Buriram area, and comprising uncles, aunts nephews, nieces etc. I think this is the first time you mentioned that Kees.
"For that money I suppose she gets food, sleeping place, use of the house, toilet, bathroom for her and her daughter"
Well Kees, to answer your original question, now that we have more information:
"She is staying with her daughter (4years) with family now, which are asking her 7000 Baht/month to stay there. Is that a reasonable price? "
NO! It is not a reasonable price. It's a rip off! Let her rent a room,or even a small house in the Buriram area (considerably less than 7000bt) and live there with her daughter, and you when you find the time to visit.
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Give him a break! chairhit
He put his comment and that's it. If I was him I wouldn't tell you the girlfriend exact address either! confused4
What do you mean Almog,,,,,,,,,,The guy digs himself a deeper hole everytime he makes further comments.....Throws money at something he doesnt evwn know exists,takes out a bank loan,again for something he doesnt know exists,,,,,,& YOU say give him a break'''''''
I'm sorry but this guy is one of the greenest characters I've ever come across in the last 25 years,,,,,,,& believe me I have come across so many
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If this guy was a gravedigger he'd be in the Guinness Book Of Records
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The mystery deepens.
Kees now tells us that his girl is NOT paying 7000bt to his girls parents (No 1 family), but instead to her No 2 family, living in the Buriram area, and comprising uncles, aunts nephews, nieces etc. I think this is the first time you mentioned that Kees.
"For that money I suppose she gets food, sleeping place, use of the house, toilet, bathroom for her and her daughter"
Well Kees, to answer your original question, now that we have more information:
"She is staying with her daughter (4years) with family now, which are asking her 7000 Baht/month to stay there. Is that a reasonable price? "
NO! It is not a reasonable price. It's a rip off! Let her rent a room,or even a small house in the Buriram area (considerably less than 7000bt) and live there with her daughter, and you when you find the time to visit.
Nick ,why waste your time mate...A guy who has actually been to Thailand 3 times & knows everything....Decent houses are rented here in Nong Ki /Sakut for around 1500 baht/month
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Kees, I think most of the guys on the board would agree that there's a bit of a natural progression in the purchases we have made for our wives/girlfriends. First the latest mobile, then a bit of gold jewelry, then the motorbike, then the pickup, then the house and then finally we invest in the poorly thought out business they are totally unqualified to own and operate. The vast majority of these businesses fail to ever make a profit and are eventually scrapped (usually sooner rather than later).
The rest of the gents in this thread are subjecting you to a bit of banter not just because you screwed up the order of the essential Thai girl purchases, but because of the scale of your error. 450,000 baht is an absolutely enormous amount of money to a rural Thai girl in her situation. I understand and commend you for your good intentions, but you have now created a certain set of expectations amongst her and her family. Hopefully, everything works out well for you but, I think most of the guys on the board would agree that in these situations good deeds rarely go unpunished and good intentions are even less frequently appreciated.
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And that information should answer your questions Kees, nice reply manni.
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Kees, I think most of the guys on the board would agree that there's a bit of a natural progression in the purchases we have made for our wives/girlfriends. First the latest mobile, then a bit of gold jewelry, then the motorbike, then the pickup, then the house and then finally we invest in the poorly thought out business they are totally unqualified to own and operate. The vast majority of these businesses fail to ever make a profit and are eventually scrapped (usually sooner rather than later).
The rest of the gents in this thread are subjecting you to a bit of banter not just because you screwed up the order of the essential Thai girl purchases, but because of the scale of your error. 450,000 baht is an absolutely enormous amount of money to a rural Thai girl in her situation. I understand and commend you for your good intentions, but you have now created a certain set of expectations amongst her and her family. Hopefully, everything works out well for you but, I think most of the guys on the board would agree that in these situations good deeds rarely go unpunished and good intentions are even less frequently appreciated.
Yes I'm afraid you are %100 correct..... I followed your example of natural progression to the word, but it took me 4 years to get up to the pick-up stage and house, so there is no great expectations on me to come up with the next big purchase...
Good advice to all new guys.// Take Your Time... madbar oldmanwithstick
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nicely said manni....good advice...
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There seems to be far too many so called "Newbies" on this particular thread
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There seems to be far too many so called "Newbies" on this particular thread
And one too many "Gifted Poster" - FFS !!
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There seems to be far too many so called "Newbies" on this particular thread
And the LORD had spoken.....
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There seems to be far too many so called "Newbies" on this particular thread
I didn't call myself a "newbie", BE.com did.
I am certainly not new to much around these parts, except to posting on "your" forum, so if I have committed some kind of "newbie error" by telling a poster that his post was a good one, then perhaps after a few more posts by me then I will no longer be a "newbie".
Guess we'll have to see. oldmanwithstick
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:D The Oracle is back on form....welcome back Nookie oldmanwithstick
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The mystery deepens.
Kees now tells us that his girl is NOT paying 7000bt to his girls parents (No 1 family), but instead to her No 2 family, living in the Buriram area, and comprising uncles, aunts nephews, nieces etc. I think this is the first time you mentioned that Kees.
very first post in this chat: "Her family lives in Phimai. And she wanted to start a shop in Buriram."
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:) Thank you Manni,
1. all the things you mentioned: she will never get from me, simple because I don't have the money.
2. she never asked for those, just for the shop; to me a sign she really wants to be selfsupporting. (ok: most of ppl here differ opinion with me)
3. because she skipped asking for all the - apparantly required according to the majority here - gifts, was also a sign for me this one could be different.
4. each time we talk I keep telling her that I have no more money for the next few years because I have to pay back the bank. I am quite confident the message will be passed to the family. And a time passes by and there is no more money coming, I suppose I will get through to them.
I have been in India. Build a "house" (price approx 50.000 Baht) for a girl who had been burned by her husband. ((yes, nowadays that still happens everyday in India)) The family took possession of the house. So when I returned she wanted me to build her another one. I refused. cost me a lot of fights with her and the family, year after year, and then finally they stopped asking money. It's just to show that I am already used to that.
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well, actually didn't want to spend a word on Nookie because of all the bullshit he is placing here, but finally there was quite unexpected also 1 usefull comment :"Decent houses are rented here in Nong Ki /Sakut for around 1500 baht/month"
Right, thank you. please give me some addresses in Buriram City. I would be delighted if I could find a place for her to stay for that price. Doesn't need to be a house, an appartment is also ok.
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Kees now tells us that his girl is NOT paying 7000bt to his girls parents (No 1 family), but instead to her No 2 family, living in the Buriram area, and comprising uncles, aunts nephews, nieces etc. I think this is the first time you mentioned that Kees.
very first post in this chat: "Her family lives in Phimai. And she wanted to start a shop in Buriram."
Correct Kees - but you never said she was staying in Buriram -only that she could not stay in the Buriram shop. That implied, and I asked, was she commuting to and from Phimai.
Anyway, I hope someone can steer you towards some rented accommodationin Buriram, for a lot less than the 7000bt you are currently shelling out.
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Kees, I think you will find that locating a house or apartment for your girlfriend is a boots on the ground project. I doubt you'll have much success asking for phone numbers on the forum. Most of the guys here probably dont live in 1500 baht per month accomodations and many of the people offering them for rent wont be able to speak English to an extent that will help you. Your girlfriend could easily walk around the area she wants to live in and find a suitable place. This is of course assuming she wants to live on her own and away from her relatives.
Regardless of what you tell her about your finances, I doubt the message will get through to her family. Even a penniless Dutchman is a rich farang to her family. Eventually (more likely soon) there will be a need for additional money, whether it be real or fabricated. Her family will pressure her to ask you for that money. Either you will send her the money or you wont. Send her the money and you are a buffalo, to both her family and all the fellas or the board. If you dont send the money the fellas on the board might think there's some hope for you afterall, but to her family you're then a cheapskate who can't or wont take care of her. Either way, you will resent her for asking you for more and more money despite buying her the shop,but really the fault lies with you. You just gave her the equivalent of what she can earn in years. You did a bad job of managing her and her family's expectations.
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Now thats constructive straight talking .......
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Paddyram : will it be of any use ????
I found a new "business" = help the thai lady to "clean" out the ones that want to cleaned out ... I tried in the past 8 years to help many of these suckers but to greatest disappointments ... I was always "jalous" or "stupid" or "incompetent" ... but I'm still surviving in the best possible way ... let them pay their dues ... som nam naa ...
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Hello guys,
could someone please check the address of the shop? Should be Pitak Road 267/56
must be a shop which is selling rice and drinks mostly. And because we are now in Pattaya the shop should be closed at the moment.
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Guys, I am getting a little disappointed about you.
You give lots of criticism, on the other hand also offer to help, want to know the address so you can check it out...
and now I finally have the address and need your help, nobody of you is home.
I can see on the map of buriram that some of you have a business quite nearby.
When I understand it clearly, it should be on the market near the Sun thornthep road.
It is very important for me to know quickly if the shop is indeed closed atm because we are arriving friday the 14th.
So again: could someone please please check it out?
Should the shop be open now, then I suppose her story is fake and the shop is just from her family and not her's.
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well, actually didn't want to spend a word on Nookie because of all the bullshit he is placing here, but finally there was quite unexpected also 1 usefull comment :"Decent houses are rented here in Nong Ki /Sakut for around 1500 baht/month"
Right, thank you. please give me some addresses in Buriram City. I would be delighted if I could find a place for her to stay for that price. Doesn't need to be a house, an appartment is also ok.
Kees ,you want to get your head out of the sand very quickly,,,,,People who know me know I never post bullshit BUT ACTUALLY TELL THINGS AS THEY ARE.
You may not like to read it as you've been taken for a ride.
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Guys, I am getting a little disappointed about you.
You give lots of criticism, on the other hand also offer to help, want to know the address so you can check it out...
and now I finally have the address and need your help, nobody of you is home.
I can see on the map of buriram that some of you have a business quite nearby.
When I understand it clearly, it should be on the market near the Sun thornthep road.
It is very important for me to know quickly if the shop is indeed closed atm because we are arriving friday the 14th.
So again: could someone please please check it out?
Should the shop be open now, then I suppose her story is fake and the shop is just from her family and not her's.
I think you have some neck Kees,,,,,,,,,,,I seem to recollect offers to you before of people willing to go & have a look for you but you were never forthcoming with the location of this 'shop' & now you have realised you have been 'rolled over' you are getting into a panic situation.If the 'shop' does indeed exist you will see with your own eyes on Friday.
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You resurrect a thread from July and criticise forum members for not immediately jumping in with information.
Your credibility was dubious first time round and you have not improved it.
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You resurrect a thread from July and criticise forum members for not immediately jumping in with information.
Your credibility was dubious first time round and you have not improved it.
But he does know Treehousemonky monkeydancing
So unlike the Bible this may not be a fairy story :blink:
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Hello Nookie,
It's not easy talking to someone who doesnt speak English where I not speak Thai. So in phonecalls I didnt succeed in getting the address. Now being here I managed to get it with help of a city plan and someone who could translate every sentence between us.
I have no doubt the shop exists, I already also mentioned here that that had been checked by someone.
Also there is still the possibility that there is nothing wrong apart from the different kind of views ( and thus misunderstandings) Thai and Dutch people have on life. I only have an opportunity more now to have checked if she is telling the truth about something, because some doubts more are rising.
A lot of doubts/misunderstandings (due to culture-differences) I had, have already now been explained to me by people who live here long time and know the Thai a little. Still I not trust her for 100%, until now I never did and it will take at least a year more before I will do. Until of course I find evidence that she is lying then I cut the crap. I knew the risk before, there is no talk of panic, only an opportunity to check part of her story which I could miss due to lack of time.
regards,
Kees
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It's not easy talking to someone who doesn't speak English where I not speak Thai.
I think this sums it up for me ......Why be in a relationship where you can't even communicate over the phone.. loco
Good Luck KeesM biggrinbar
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rY0WxgSXdEE#t=2s
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snow1
I live in Sweden with my thaiwife now. We pay 3000 bht ewery month for her 15-year son.
He live with her sisters family and they take care him. Sometimes we pay 6000 because he need extra money for paying his scool osv. 7000 bht, I think to mutch....the family are wery happy!!!!!
Frank,
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Hello Frank,
thank you, but meanwhile it has been slowly become clear that the situation is different from what I former understood.
Although we had some good help translating/communicating it's quite different in the end.
But at the moment it looks to be like this:
The original plan was to expensive. She changed plans (not telling me) and the amount for which I thought she bought the shop, has been invested in the interior of the shop and the buying of trade-goods. (ahum, and a motorcycle - I agreed about that 1 - and some money for dad, nong-sow, etc. still have to go count as soon as I am in Buriram, whether I can trace it all.)
Just todat managed to get figures about what the inventory - based on pictures she showed me - has cost
Then she had to pay 150.000 Baht as (dont know if the English word is correct) kind of bail? She will get back after 5 years. Yeah, right. I suppose that money is forever gone.
The mentioned 7000 Baht now turns out to be the rent for the shop monthly.
Because I am finding out facts very slowly, I not yet had updated the story here. Nevertheless is your information usefull to me.
so probably: to be continued...
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Kees, ofwel ben je hier iedereen voor de aap aan het houden ofwel wordt je genaaid dat het niet mooi is ... 7.000 baht per maand huur .. daar heb je minimum 4 units voor ... die 150.000 baht is inderdaad weggegooid geld ... gewoon met je 'vrouwke' leven kost je hier maximaal 10 tot 15.000 baht per maand ... ik woon hier met vrouw en twee kinderen die elk naar en 'private' school gaan en heb een maximale kost per maand van 20.000 ... ALLES inbegrepen : schoolgeld, uniformen, busgeld, eten, drinken, electra, internet, water en de hoofdkost is bier voor mij !!!!
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Kees, ofwel ben je hier iedereen voor de aap aan het houden ofwel wordt je genaaid dat het niet mooi is ... 7.000 baht per maand huur .. daar heb je minimum 4 units voor ... die 150.000 baht is inderdaad weggegooid geld ... gewoon met je 'vrouwke' leven kost je hier maximaal 10 tot 15.000 baht per maand ... ik woon hier met vrouw en twee kinderen die elk naar en 'private' school gaan en heb een maximale kost per maand van 20.000 ... ALLES inbegrepen : schoolgeld, uniformen, busgeld, eten, drinken, electra, internet, water en de hoofdkost is bier voor mij !!!!
A little help from Google.....translated means...
Kees, or you're here for everyone to keep the monkey is either you screwed it is not beautiful ... 7,000 baht per month rent .. there you have at least 4 units ... 150,000 baht which is indeed a waste of money ... Just with your 'little woman' cost of living here more than 10 to 15,000 baht per month ... I live here with his wife and two children each, and to "private" school and have a maximum cost of 20,000 per month ... EVERYTHING included: school fees, uniforms, busgeld, eat, drink, electricity, internet, water, and the main cost is beer for me!!
Just to keep you all up to speed thumbup
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right. only 1 problem: she cannot use a computer, never did and plan is to learn her NOW how to do. :-)
Hello Dundee, I would like to have a chat with you if possible in the coming days.
I just booked a room Paradise hotel, arriving tomorrow evening.
So, might anybody think this is a joke, I will be there, and shop will be open again in a few days....
should anybody want to meet me, I am sure they will have beer somewhere in Buriram. ;-)
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Good luck Kees.
Hope to see you around at some point - and getting an update on the shop situation etc
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Well, we are here. It was quite obvious the shop has been closed for some time. Only the address cannot be right. Cannot yet find out the streetname, housenumber was correct.
If you follow the Jira (chira) Road, the road from Coffee Corner, where I tried to get coffee today, but seems everybody started to run after I announced I would be here ;-), because also at BuriramExpats office the boss went out before I arrived, but at least there was a nice girl and finally 1 speaking English,
so if you follow that road into town, turn right just before the moat, couldn't figure out the streetname, but the opposite streetname is Romburn Road. Follow the road, turn right at the end, and then when the market starts, to the left are shops. the first shop after the gap between the shops.
It's quite a big shop but she uses only the first part for shop, the rest for living. And has an upperfloor of equal space. No way you can get this kind of shop for a rent Dundee mentions. I saw the contract, of course I cannot read Thai but I had a Thai friend with me.
The shop inventory was nowhere near the value of my money but she also had bought everything she needed for a household. No need to say I can live with that.
Of course I am relieved that I cannot find any lacks in the financial picture. Thats the good news...
She is selling rice, colddrinks, candy and chips. Apart of the rice she buys all things from the Makro. No need to say she cannot make a decent profit with that. The profit will have to come from the rice and I am afraid it will take a very long time before she gets enough steady customers to earn a reasonable amount.
Does anyone of you have ideas how to get the people to know there's a new rice shop? Dont think leaflets and advertisements in newspapers will work. Should it be usefull to use 1 time 1 of those cars shouting around?
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That was COFFEE CONNECTION.
Coffee Corner is in Prakhonchai.
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So whats the up shot then KeesM?
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Having rented the shop, set it up, stocked it (albeit minimally), and spent the rest of your money on her "household" why has, in your own words, "the shop has been closed for some time."?
Never mind leaflets, newspaper ads or advertising pick-ups. Just find the address and tell us here on BRE.There are 1000+ members, and one or more might just venture that way out of curiosity!
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Having rented the shop, set it up, stocked it (albeit minimally), and spent the rest of your money on her "household" why has, in your own words, "the shop has been closed for some time."?
Something I have noticed over the years is whenever you or somebody gives Thais money to start a business they couldn't give a monkeys whether it works or not as they have nothing to lose ........ its free money smilenod. Make them borrow the money from the bank or get a Village loan,then they know they have to work to pay it back or more likely then not they wont even bother at all .For a woman to make money from a business it must be started with minimal outlay.It doesn't take brains to work out if you spend 100k on a shop and then sell crisps and soft drinks it will never make money.In my area small shop houses ( single story )can be rented for 1500 baht a month ,if Mum sit there all day and makes 50 Baht then at least the rent is paid for and the family have somewhere to live for free.Looks to me like another fool and his money has been easily parted :wacko:
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When I set up Coffee Corner I said to the missus - "OK, the 2,000 Baht a week I was paying you for 'living exps' will now come out of the business and will be your wages. At the end of each month, if we have made a profit, you get a 10,000 Baht bonus".
In fairness she has worked very hard and has earned that monthly bonus.
I agree entirely that 'free money' has no value. Once given it is forgotten and the eye is on the next payment !
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When I set up Coffee Corner I said to the missus - "OK, the 2,000 Baht a week I was paying you for 'living exps' will now come out of the business and will be your wages. At the end of each month, if we have made a profit, you get a 10,000 Baht bonus".
In fairness she has worked very hard and has earned that monthly bonus.
I agree entirely that 'free money' has no value. Once given it is forgotten and the eye is on the next payment !
An 8000 baht salary a month and a 10000 baht bonus, you must have worked in banking business. :laugh:
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When I set up Coffee Corner I said to the missus - "OK, the 2,000 Baht a week I was paying you for 'living exps' will now come out of the business and will be your wages. At the end of each month, if we have made a profit, you get a 10,000 Baht bonus".
In fairness she has worked very hard and has earned that monthly bonus.
I agree entirely that 'free money' has no value. Once given it is forgotten and the eye is on the next payment !
An 8000 baht salary a month and a 10000 baht bonus, you must have worked in banking business. :laugh:
Funny you should say that smilenod
Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
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Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
Yes Coffeecorner,....a bonus upon performance is always best the way to go :biggrin:
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Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
Yes Coffeecorner,....a bonus upon performance is always best the way to go :biggrin:
I bet Nok has had a few kamoybeer
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Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
Yes Coffeecorner,....a bonus upon performance is always best the way to go :biggrin:
I bet Nok has had a few kamoybeer
Would that be performances or bonuses CoCo?
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Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
Yes Coffeecorner,....a bonus upon performance is always best the way to go :biggrin:
I bet Nok has had a few kamoybeer
Sometimes she gets a tip,other times she gets all of it :biggrin:
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Good incentive though to have the bonus related to performance.
Yes Coffeecorner,....a bonus upon performance is always best the way to go :biggrin:
I bet Nok has had a few kamoybeer
Would that be performances or bonuses CoCo?
I always say " A performance a day keeps Mr Grumpy away " thumbup
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Yoda say ---- A stiffy daily make Mr Grumpy away stay!
Daft screwy
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When I set up Coffee Corner I said to the missus - if we have made a profit, you get a 10,000 Baht bonus".
An 8000 baht salary a month and a 10000 baht bonus, you must have worked in banking business. :laugh:
Actually the wankers bankers got their bonuses based on sales and not profit. So CC has the right approach bravo1
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When I set up Coffee Corner I said to the missus - if we have made a profit, you get a 10,000 Baht bonus".
An 8000 baht salary a month and a 10000 baht bonus, you must have worked in banking business. :laugh:
Actually the wankers bankers got their bonuses based on sales and not profit. So CC has the right approach bravo1
Although without making a profit I would soon run out of cash to pay the wages/bonus - oops! that must sound familiar to Northern Rock, LloydsTSB, Barclays and RBS/Nat West !!
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Having rented the shop, set it up, stocked it (albeit minimally), and spent the rest of your money on her "household" why has, in your own words, "the shop has been closed for some time."?
Never mind leaflets, newspaper ads or advertising pick-ups. Just find the address and tell us here on BRE.There are 1000+ members, and one or more might just venture that way out of curiosity!
ehhh Nick??
I thought I had PERFECTLY lined out where the shop is.
read back my post before your answer please.
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So whats the up shot then KeesM?
Sorry Jon, I speak quite some English but this phrase is unknown to me, so I have no idea what you mean.
If you mean: what are the plans for the future now?
I don't know. I think I give her 3 more months to think over what she wants ( because she also starts complaining about loneliness) and to look what happens.
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That was COFFEE CONNECTION.
Coffee Corner is in Prakhonchai.
oops ;-)
ok, so yesterday we went to Paddy's Bar and guess what....
boss ran of to Pattaya 2 days ago. But at least they had Sambucaaaa.
I give up chasing farangs in Buriram.
Went 1 day to Surin, looking for bar Farang Connection and finally there a 'boss' was at home.
Next time I go back some more days to Surin.
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oh, forgot, the shop was closed because she was staying with me in Pattaya for some weeks.
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Having rented the shop, set it up, stocked it (albeit minimally), and spent the rest of your money on her "household" why has, in your own words, "the shop has been closed for some time."?
Never mind leaflets, newspaper ads or advertising pick-ups. Just find the address and tell us here on BRE.There are 1000+ members, and one or more might just venture that way out of curiosity!
ehhh Nick??
I thought I had PERFECTLY lined out where the shop is.
read back my post before your answer please.
Kees, I couldn't follow your directions because I don't live in the centre of Buriram - but I am familiar with some of the landmarks. Perhaps if you have a camera you could post a picture of the location - showing the nearby shops as well, to help identification.
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Having rented the shop, set it up, stocked it (albeit minimally), and spent the rest of your money on her "household" why has, in your own words, "the shop has been closed for some time."?
Never mind leaflets, newspaper ads or advertising pick-ups. Just find the address and tell us here on BRE.There are 1000+ members, and one or more might just venture that way out of curiosity!
ehhh Nick??
I thought I had PERFECTLY lined out where the shop is.
read back my post before your answer please.
You told us how to find the shop Kees. However some people would like to know the address, especially the road name, which so far is lacking.
You state the shop had been closed because g/f had been with you in Pattaya for some time, yet you stated "It was quite obvious the shop has been closed for some time" implying that it was not just for the time you had been together in Pattaya.
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Is this soap still going on ?!? Nick and CoCo, do keep in mind the originator is a dutchman ... doesn't it ring a bell ??? We've had one before ...
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Valid point croc!
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Is this soap still going on ?!? Nick and CoCo, do keep in mind the originator is a dutchman ... doesn't it ring a bell ??? We've had one before ...
You think it's the same guy??
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unbelievable I get this kind of replies.
did anyone of you ever reached the age of 16???
goodbye
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More relevantly Kees, you brought this upon yourself, through your apparent naivety and childish actions with throwing money about.
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goodbye
Know-one like to be called a mug or a troll wave1
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Valid point croc!
Keep in mind crok mis from Belgium so he could be way off. :laugh:
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KeesM what do you mean the boss ran off to pattaya,In reply i had some business to do in pattaya .I did not RUN OFF.In reading some of your long list of issues with your lady you should be the one RUNNING OFF.Good luck.
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Is this cr@p drama still going on.
I used to believe this story was genuine, but at this stage I think this Kees story is one big wind-up.
I mean, who in the right mind would bank-roll a new shop (paying over the odds) for a new girlfriend that doesn't really speak your lanaguage, without really finding out what your selling and you can't even get the proper address from her.
In any case, there is no hope in hell of getting that kind of money back by selling rice, soft drinks and chips. This business is not going to support her, YOU will have to.
Kees, the guys on here have lived in Thailand for a long time and seen it all, good and bad. If they are all advising caution or even as you say they are avoiding you, what do you think that says to you ?
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I suggest we all calm down. If somebody don't like Kees posts simply don't reply to his post.! sawadi
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That was COFFEE CONNECTION.
Coffee Corner is in Prakhonchai.
oops ;-)
ok, so yesterday we went to Paddy's Bar and guess what....
boss ran of to Pattaya 2 days ago. But at least they had Sambucaaaa.
I give up chasing farangs in Buriram.
Went 1 day to Surin, looking for bar Farang Connection and finally there a 'boss' was at home.
Next time I go back some more days to Surin.
Kees
I suggest that you go to Surin maybe you will find a lady who loves you and not your ATM!
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In any case, there is no hope in hell of getting that kind of money back by selling rice, soft drinks and chips. This business is not going to support her, YOU will have to.
Good one Paddyram, so the topis should be ''buying a shop and still financial support in girlfriend" :laugh:
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I suggest we all calm down. If somebody don't like Kees posts simply don't reply to his post.! sawadi
Kees has gone so the thread can perhaps be closed.
It seems only fair to include the post from Brian referring to his Pattaya trip or, delete the Kees comment about 'running off'
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slapfight boxingguy swordfight sissies
Some of you guys on here take things far to seriously redman
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Topic closed.