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Title: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 07, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
I'm only an occasional visitor to the forum, and only an occasional visitor to Buriram.  But one piece of advice I picked up here was to shop at Ruangsangthai Hardware.  We have been doing that, and the advice has turned out to be good - very happy with their service, and particularly their advice. 

Now, as we get closer to moving to live in Buriram it's time to get a pick up truck - cannot keep borrowing the BIL's old D-Max, especially since our next visit will be for three months.  But which truck?  The advice I've gotten here so far has been good ...

What are the quality / reputation of the local dealers?  Any shockers to avoid?  Any gems?   I am interested in:
 - Isuzu (bullet proof)
 - Nissan (same price as Isuzu, but a nicer package / drive)
 - Ford (SUV-like comfort, but will only consider if the Buriram dealer is well above average - I've pretty well discounted the Ranger due to the poor reputation of Thailand's Ford network.)

We will need to do our shopping over the phone if we are to order the truck and have it available when we arrive, so cannot go and check out the dealerships ourselves.

Not too worried about resale value if you are wondering - plan to keep the truck long term.  Need it to last long term actually - we're retiring early with a limited budget. 

We have land near Huai Rat, with a couple of KM of rough dirt road/track between us and the highway.   

Cheers.   :)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 07, 2017, 11:34:55 PM
Hi Hermit,
I only have first hand experience of the Ford dealership. I purchased a Ford Ranger 3.2 wildtrack in September 2014.
The purchase was straightforward with attentive service and escort to the Land Transport Office for registration. No real surprise as usually the case at point of purchase.
The first service visit was trouble free, good service etc...
Second service a little frustrating. We had purchased a 2 service package which I believed covered all standard items and was meant to save us some money. Could be things were lost in translation but I doubt it. Just a con to get you committed to the next service.
3rd and 4th service have been trouble fee, good service, no surprises and no attempts to add extras.
I've had one warranty repair. Auto window switch failed. When I took it in, just a couple of months ago, they identified problem quickly, replacement part ( arrived next day) and fitted immediately. I didn't have to remind them about warranty, they volunteered the info, no argument, no quibble.
So, at 2nd service they annoyed me but all other dealings have actually been very good and I've warmed to them a little.
When it's being serviced I tend to have a wander round the back and watch them working on the truck. Seem to be quite efficient and professional approach.
Always get back old service items as well so can see what's been replaced.
Apart from window switch truck has been trouble free. I really like it.
You, mention SUV - I also like the Everest I'm tempted and IMHO, much better than the Fortuner.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 08, 2017, 08:13:58 AM
Thanks for your reply Freddy.  I was hoping to hear Ford horror stories so I could cross it off the list!   What is the service centre like?  Is it Western-like with clean / painted floor and all the right diagnostic equipment like you'd hope Ford would insist on, or ... ?   

May I ask why you went for the Wildtrack over the XLT?  I would want the 3.2 litre engine in the Ford, not trusting the (small) 2.2l to last as long as we need it to.  But the 3.2l Wildtrack is B120K or more over the price of the top Nissan / Isuzu.  The price of the 3.2l XLT is on a par with the top Nissan / Isuzu. 

I drove Ford Falcons (6 Cyl sedans) here in Oz, preferring that over the GM rival as the Ford had an "agricultural" in-line 6 cylinder engine.  There was nothing hi-tech about the engine, but it went forever.  It was just that the rest of the car fell apart / rusted away around it!  How are the Ranger doing in that regard?  Isaan driving conditions have to be some of the harshest of all the Ranger's worldwide markets.  It is this prior experience with Ford (Oz) that will probably steer me away from the Ranger in the end.  Shame, as the ride and handling are exceptional.   

Oh, I only mention SUV in relation to the Ranger's SUV-like ride / handling btw.  Sorry, should have been clearer.  An actual SUV is probably out of my budget anyway, but a truck will suit us better - we're both in our 50s so def no kids on the horizon, and we have 8 or 10 acres which is pretty well just a bare patch of land atm.  I can see plenty of load-carrying in my / my vehicle's future!     ;D   

If I was going for an SUV, def not Fortuner.  Seems like every Fortuner I encounter in Thailand is being driven by some ... "entitled" individual treating other traffic with contempt.  Must be something they do to your brain when you purchase one, and I don't want that to happen to me!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: nookiebear on May 08, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
I would advise strongly against trying to buy a truck over the phone.....You will get ripped off big style
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Starman on May 08, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Thanks for your reply Freddy.  I was hoping to hear Ford horror stories so I could cross it off the list!   What is the service centre like?  Is it Western-like with clean / painted floor and all the right diagnostic equipment like you'd hope Ford would insist on, or ... ?   

May I ask why you went for the Wildtrack over the XLT?  I would want the 3.2 litre engine in the Ford, not trusting the (small) 2.2l to last as long as we need it to.  But the 3.2l Wildtrack is B120K or more over the price of the top Nissan / Isuzu.  The price of the 3.2l XLT is on a par with the top Nissan / Isuzu. 

I drove Ford Falcons (6 Cyl sedans) here in Oz, preferring that over the GM rival as the Ford had an "agricultural" in-line 6 cylinder engine.  There was nothing hi-tech about the engine, but it went forever.  It was just that the rest of the car fell apart / rusted away around it!  How are the Ranger doing in that regard?  Isaan driving conditions have to be some of the harshest of all the Ranger's worldwide markets.  It is this prior experience with Ford (Oz) that will probably steer me away from the Ranger in the end.  Shame, as the ride and handling are exceptional.   

Oh, I only mention SUV in relation to the Ranger's SUV-like ride / handling btw.  Sorry, should have been clearer.  An actual SUV is probably out of my budget anyway, but a truck will suit us better - we're both in our 50s so def no kids on the horizon, and we have 8 or 10 acres which is pretty well just a bare patch of land atm.  I can see plenty of load-carrying in my / my vehicle's future!     ;D   

If I was going for an SUV, def not Fortuner.  Seems like every Fortuner I encounter in Thailand is being driven by some ... "entitled" individual treating other traffic with contempt.  Must be something they do to your brain when you purchase one, and I don't want that to happen to me!   :biggrin:


I have a Mazda BT50. Basically the same vehicle as the Ranger. I am very pleased with all aspects of the car and the dealer. I have had it for 2 1/2 years.

You don't need the 3.2l engine. The 2.2 is ample.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 08, 2017, 05:18:02 PM
Hi Hermit,
In answer to your questions.

Yes the Ford workshop in Buriram is built and appears to be operated to European standard. Tiled and polished concrete floors, painted/tiled walls etc. They seem to be well knitted out. I've not had the need for engine diagnostic but my best guess is they have all the kit as needed.
As a matter of course I check oil and fluid levels after service. All have always been correct. I've never had any after service problems or issues.
Apart from window switch replacement as previously mentioned the only other issue o had was a flat battery. My fault entirely as I left the dash cam plugged in for 2/3 days without driving. It was completely dead. Jumper leads to start it and it's back to full charge with no issues 2/3 months since. I was expecting it to die again but it's been fine. Seems to be good quality heavy duty.

Why did I go for the Wildtrack. Just like the interior and exterior styling. Nicer wheels, step bar, leather, trim etc. Only intended to buy the one vehicle and keep for many years so just opted for top of the range. Nothing wrong with the XLTs and I believe they now have another modem that sits between the XLT and the Wildtrack. Different wheels got some graphics on the bodywork. Kind of a blacked out look.

I also rate the ride and handling on the Rangers. Prior to purchase I was in a borrowed not old Hilux. Ok truck but the ranger performs and handles better.
I also test drove a Nissan. Personally I just didn't like it but just a matter of taste. I know they are reliable.
My friend bought a new Isuzu a few months ago. He previously had a Wildtrack but his wife started doing market stalls and wanted a smart cab with larger load bed. As the purchase of a new truck hadn't been budgets for they went for the Isuzu purely because they offered the best trade in value on the 3.2 Ranger. He hates it and wishes he'd stumped up the extra for the ranger. I've driven it, it's OK but seems to lack power loaded and certainly doesn't handle as well. Obviously just my opinion.

Regarding bodywork and build quality. Mines nearly 3 yrs old. No rattles, squeaks or buzzes. All feels and sounds as tight as when new. In fact, considering it's a Ford truck I think the build and fit quality is pretty damn good. I'm not a ford man. Before moving here I hadn't owned a Ford since my early 20s. For me it was simply the best option out of what's available on the Thai market and within budget.

No bodywork issues, no seal leaks etc......

Starman. I like the Mazdas. Haven't driven one and really don't know why I didn't go and look when I was buying. Can't say I agree regarding engine size. Sure a 2.2 will do the job and diesels are generally strong and robust these days. Once again I guess it's just a matter of preference. I like the torque range on the 3.2. It pulls like a train and eats long hills. I'm not a slow driver but I'm no racer either. Fully loaded though I will pull away from most other vehicles on hills with no engine strain. I plan on running the Ranger into the ground. If I look after it I may never need to buy another car/truck unless I choose to. The larger engine should allow that to happen.

If I were to buy another truck today I would take a look at Mazda. It may be I looked at pictures and didn't like the interior, I can't remember. I've looked at the new Toyotas ( just for fun) and drove one a couple of weeks ago. It went OK but what I hated was the interior. Compared to the Ranger it felt really small inside the cab. It isn't actually any smaller but the styling just made it feel cramped.

Anyway - chances are if I were buying today I'd get another Ranger or maybe an Everest but would miss the load bed versatility and the dog would muller it. She likes the Ranger too!!
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Starman on May 08, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
Hi Hermit,
In answer to your questions.

Yes the Ford workshop in Buriram is built and appears to be operated to European standard. Tiled and polished concrete floors, painted/tiled walls etc. They seem to be well knitted out. I've not had the need for engine diagnostic but my best guess is they have all the kit as needed.
As a matter of course I check oil and fluid levels after service. All have always been correct. I've never had any after service problems or issues.
Apart from window switch replacement as previously mentioned the only other issue o had was a flat battery. My fault entirely as I left the dash cam plugged in for 2/3 days without driving. It was completely dead. Jumper leads to start it and it's back to full charge with no issues 2/3 months since. I was expecting it to die again but it's been fine. Seems to be good quality heavy duty.

Why did I go for the Wildtrack. Just like the interior and exterior styling. Nicer wheels, step bar, leather, trim etc. Only intended to buy the one vehicle and keep for many years so just opted for top of the range. Nothing wrong with the XLTs and I believe they now have another modem that sits between the XLT and the Wildtrack. Different wheels got some graphics on the bodywork. Kind of a blacked out look.

I also rate the ride and handling on the Rangers. Prior to purchase I was in a borrowed not old Hilux. Ok truck but the ranger performs and handles better.
I also test drove a Nissan. Personally I just didn't like it but just a matter of taste. I know they are reliable.
My friend bought a new Isuzu a few months ago. He previously had a Wildtrack but his wife started doing market stalls and wanted a smart cab with larger load bed. As the purchase of a new truck hadn't been budgets for they went for the Isuzu purely because they offered the best trade in value on the 3.2 Ranger. He hates it and wishes he'd stumped up the extra for the ranger. I've driven it, it's OK but seems to lack power loaded and certainly doesn't handle as well. Obviously just my opinion.

Regarding bodywork and build quality. Mines nearly 3 yrs old. No rattles, squeaks or buzzes. All feels and sounds as tight as when new. In fact, considering it's a Ford truck I think the build and fit quality is pretty damn good. I'm not a ford man. Before moving here I hadn't owned a Ford since my early 20s. For me it was simply the best option out of what's available on the Thai market and within budget.

No bodywork issues, no seal leaks etc......

Starman. I like the Mazdas. Haven't driven one and really don't know why I didn't go and look when I was buying. Can't say I agree regarding engine size. Sure a 2.2 will do the job and diesels are generally strong and robust these days. Once again I guess it's just a matter of preference. I like the torque range on the 3.2. It pulls like a train and eats long hills. I'm not a slow driver but I'm no racer either. Fully loaded though I will pull away from most other vehicles on hills with no engine strain. I plan on running the Ranger into the ground. If I look after it I may never need to buy another car/truck unless I choose to. The larger engine should allow that to happen.

If I were to buy another truck today I would take a look at Mazda. It may be I looked at pictures and didn't like the interior, I can't remember. I've looked at the new Toyotas ( just for fun) and drove one a couple of weeks ago. It went OK but what I hated was the interior. Compared to the Ranger it felt really small inside the cab. It isn't actually any smaller but the styling just made it feel cramped.

Anyway - chances are if I were buying today I'd get another Ranger or maybe an Everest but would miss the load bed versatility and the dog would muller it. She likes the Ranger too!!

I do a lot of mileage in my car, often full loaded, and I assure you that the 2.2d turbo engine is more than sufficient.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 08, 2017, 08:24:31 PM
I'm glad your happy with it.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 08, 2017, 08:43:26 PM
I would advise strongly against trying to buy a truck over the phone.....You will get ripped off big style

Hermit, just worth a mention. Most of the dealerships here seem to have on-site stock. Unless you've a list of specifics you should be able to purchase and drive away within a couple of days. If memory serves me correctly we paid deposit on Wednesday afternoon and picked up truck Friday morning. You'll have anything from a month upwards on red plates.
I'd tend to agree with Nookie and avoid a phone purchase simply because TIT.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: DeputyDavid on May 08, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
I can give personal experiences with Ford Ranger and Toyota Fortuner Sportivo 2.8 4WD. I would not buy the current 2.8 and AT setup as there is an inherent problem with 6th gear being too high and shift pattern suffers. Works great in cruise control mode but on Thai roads cruise control can not be used for extended periods. This is the same engine trans combo that is in the Revo.

The Ford 2.2 6speed manual is no speed demon off the line but it cruises nicely and really has plenty of power for everyday hauling. I would suggest the XLT Highrider. I am very happy with it. I got a good discount with Bed liner rear bumper running boards and first year insurance as well as window film at no additional cost.  As for service at Buriram Ford I have been in a couple of times and no issues at all. I had a dead battery for unknown reason (the outlet for the dash cam has no power to it when the car is turned off so that couldn't be the cause. I may have left the door ajar and the interior light was on is most likely.)
Anyhow I took it in and they did a system check and all was well. No issues since. No charge for the diagnosis.

Best of luck in your search.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 08, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
DD. Interesting regarding your dash am having no power when truck switched off. I wonder why different ranger models would have that different set up. If I don't pull the plug from the 12v my camera stays on record permanently.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 09, 2017, 06:15:26 AM

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Starman. I like the Mazdas. Haven't driven one and really don't know why I didn't go and look when I was buying. Can't say I agree regarding engine size. Sure a 2.2 will do the job and diesels are generally strong and robust these days. Once again I guess it's just a matter of preference. I like the torque range on the 3.2. It pulls like a train and eats long hills. I'm not a slow driver but I'm no racer either. Fully loaded though I will pull away from most other vehicles on hills with no engine strain. I plan on running the Ranger into the ground. If I look after it I may never need to buy another car/truck unless I choose to. The larger engine should allow that to happen.


I do a lot of mileage in my car, often full loaded, and I assure you that the 2.2d turbo engine is more than sufficient.

I'm with Freddy on this one - for a vehicle I intend keeping long term, I prefer a larger engine that is going to chug along at lower RPM.  Older technology is preferred, as hopefully most of the kinks have already been ironed out.  Fuel consumption is a lesser consideration for me.  I'll leave the tiny engine / screaming turbos to Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel, they can afford six new engines in a (Formula 1) season!    ;D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Starman on May 09, 2017, 06:21:57 AM
100kms/h  at under 2500rpm hardly screaming.

Funny how people who have never driven such a vehicle ask for advice and then tbink they know better.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 09, 2017, 06:35:39 AM
It's not about thinking we know better, just opinion or personal preference. I've owned and driven diesel cars since my mid 20s. I've had 1.8L to 3.2L engines. My preference is to have the larger engine. Manufacturers make a range of engine sizes for that very reason. To suit personal preference and requirement.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Starman on May 09, 2017, 06:37:32 AM
It's not about thinking we know better, just opinion or personal preference. I've owned and driven diesel cars since my mid 20s. I've had 1.8L to 3.2L engines. My preference is to have the larger engine. Manufacturers make a range of engine sizes for that very reason. To suit personal preference and requirement.

We??? I don't remember you asking for advice.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 09, 2017, 06:43:42 AM
Hi Hermit,
In answer to your questions.

Yes the Ford workshop in Buriram is built and appears to be operated to European standard. Tiled and polished concrete floors, painted/tiled walls etc. They seem to be well knitted out. I've not had the need for engine diagnostic but my best guess is they have all the kit as needed.
As a matter of course I check oil and fluid levels after service. All have always been correct. I've never had any after service problems or issues.
Apart from window switch replacement as previously mentioned the only other issue o had was a flat battery. My fault entirely as I left the dash cam plugged in for 2/3 days without driving. It was completely dead. Jumper leads to start it and it's back to full charge with no issues 2/3 months since. I was expecting it to die again but it's been fine. Seems to be good quality heavy duty.

Why did I go for the Wildtrack. Just like the interior and exterior styling. Nicer wheels, step bar, leather, trim etc. Only intended to buy the one vehicle and keep for many years so just opted for top of the range. Nothing wrong with the XLTs and I believe they now have another modem that sits between the XLT and the Wildtrack. Different wheels got some graphics on the bodywork. Kind of a blacked out look.

I also rate the ride and handling on the Rangers. Prior to purchase I was in a borrowed not old Hilux. Ok truck but the ranger performs and handles better.
I also test drove a Nissan. Personally I just didn't like it but just a matter of taste. I know they are reliable.
My friend bought a new Isuzu a few months ago. He previously had a Wildtrack but his wife started doing market stalls and wanted a smart cab with larger load bed. As the purchase of a new truck hadn't been budgets for they went for the Isuzu purely because they offered the best trade in value on the 3.2 Ranger. He hates it and wishes he'd stumped up the extra for the ranger. I've driven it, it's OK but seems to lack power loaded and certainly doesn't handle as well. Obviously just my opinion.

Regarding bodywork and build quality. Mines nearly 3 yrs old. No rattles, squeaks or buzzes. All feels and sounds as tight as when new. In fact, considering it's a Ford truck I think the build and fit quality is pretty damn good. I'm not a ford man. Before moving here I hadn't owned a Ford since my early 20s. For me it was simply the best option out of what's available on the Thai market and within budget.

No bodywork issues, no seal leaks etc......

Hi Freddy, Thank you for your helpful posts, I really appreciate the details you give.  I owe you a beer sometime.   party4

You had remarkably similar requirements to mine - I also want to run it into the ground, and am willing to pay a little more for all the nice trimmings - this may be the last vehicle I'll ever purchase.   

I just wish you weren't talking me into the Ranger, I wanted to be talked out of it!   :)  And the Wildtrack is quite a nice ride... 

I haven't actually test driven the Nissan yet, so it may not appeal to me either.  "On paper" it looks good for us, apart from the 'heavy steering at low speeds' many reviews mention.  And it is going to be difficult enough parking one of these behemoths at Big C as it is, especially for my wife.  (And I have watched Thai women trying to park pick up trucks - how are their trucks not covered in scratches??)

So, lots to think about.  Still plenty of time, our next visit is not until January.  I'll get my wife to do a few local (Oz) test drives before we decide.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 09, 2017, 06:50:31 AM
100kms/h  at under 2500rpm hardly screaming.

Funny how people who have never driven such a vehicle ask for advice and then tbink they know better.

Sorry mate, I seem to have rubbed you up the wrong way.  Wasn't my intention, just stating my personal preferences.  I trust a 3.2l engine in a 2 tonne vehicle to last 15+ years, I'm not so sure about a 2.2l.   Simple as that.

Technically I'm just after advice re service centres anyway, but loving the way we have morphed into discussing the actual trucks.   :)

Now, I hope not to be posting in four or five years moaning about my 3.2l engine and eating humble pie!   ;D
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Starman on May 09, 2017, 06:53:05 AM
100kms/h  at under 2500rpm hardly screaming.

Funny how people who have never driven such a vehicle ask for advice and then tbink they know better.

Sorry mate, I seem to have rubbed you up the wrong way.  Wasn't my intention, just stating my personal preferences.  I trust a 3.2l engine in a 2 tonne vehicle to last 15+ years, I'm not so sure about a 2.2l.   Simple as that.

Technically I'm just after advice re service centres anyway, but loving the way we have morphed into discussing the actual trucks.   :)

Now, I hope not to be posting in four or five years moaning about my 3.2l engine and eating humble pie!   ;D

I did say "funny" in my post.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 09, 2017, 07:44:11 AM
I would advise strongly against trying to buy a truck over the phone.....You will get ripped off big style

Hermit, just worth a mention. Most of the dealerships here seem to have on-site stock. Unless you've a list of specifics you should be able to purchase and drive away within a couple of days. If memory serves me correctly we paid deposit on Wednesday afternoon and picked up truck Friday morning. You'll have anything from a month upwards on red plates.
I'd tend to agree with Nookie and avoid a phone purchase simply because TIT.

Thanks guys, appreciate the guidance.  Over the phone is not ideal for sure.  My wife has tried the over the phone route with a few minor matters.  Even she gets frustrated.

I was reading a post somewhere by someone that got first class insurance as part of the deal on a new car, or so he was told.  When he went to renew it a year later it turned out he'd been driving his shiny new car on the lowest class of insurance they offer - he hadn't read all the docs at time of purchase.  If Thai salesmen try that sort of BS on in person how's it gonna play over the phone right?   

The original plan was to buy second hand in person, but you know how it is with second hand in Thailand.  We're close enough to our permanent move to justify getting a new vehicle anyway.

I'm actually trying to talk my wife into going over early and attend the Bangkok Motor Show in December; her friend claims to have ordered a "top of the line Ranger" for B800k last year (top of the line 2-door I'm thinking).  Failing that we may have to do the rounds, maybe in Bangkok, when we hit the ground - we won't have a list of specifics, but we will want a particular colour.   

Pity about the red plates - I understand you cannot drive after dark or drive outside of your province while you have them.  Which might complicate the buying in BKK thing as well.  Hmmm, must look into that.  And we need to visit family outside of Buriram province.  Ha!, I'll have a nice shiny new Ranger / Navara / D-Max sitting there, and will still need to borrow the BIL's ageing D-Max. 

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Ahab on May 09, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
We just bought a four door Isuzu V-cross 4x4 with a 3.0 liter diesel from Nang Rong Isuzu and are very happy with the truck. The larger diesel is averaging a bit more than 12 km/l for us (with automatic transmission). 
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Ahab on May 09, 2017, 04:06:07 PM
With red plates you are not supposed to drive after dark, but you can drive out of province, you just need to log where you left from and where you are going (in the red book). We put over 1200 km on our truck the first week (Buriram, Mukdahan, Nakhon Phanom, Nong Khai, and back to Lahansai (all with red plates).
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Freddy on May 09, 2017, 06:43:49 PM
Another little bit of nonsense about red plates is that you can't do any modifications on the vehicle until registered with permanent plates. The guy I know who bought the Isuzu for the market set-ups got fined 200 baht 3 times over 5 weeks because he had fitted a box to the back. He went all over the country. No mention or fines from  Police of being out of province.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 10, 2017, 09:05:18 AM
We just bought a four door Isuzu V-cross 4x4 with a 3.0 liter diesel from Nang Rong Isuzu and are very happy with the truck. The larger diesel is averaging a bit more than 12 km/l for us (with automatic transmission).

This is the one I'd get - the one I'm leaning towards actually.  Did you get the 'Maxx' version or the regular V-cross?  My son has a lower-spec 4x4 auto DMax with the 3.0 litre here in Oz as his work vehicle - he accelerates like he's driving a sports car, scares the crap out of me.  I keep telling him it only has drum brakes on the back...  But the fact you can drive it like that impresses me. 

Did you purchase it in Nang Rong because that is your local dealer?   
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Ahab on May 10, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
We got the V-Cross with almost all the same options as the Maxx version (including 4x4 and auto trans for the wife). We were considering getting the Maxx version but for an extra 35,000 baht for the extra trim and other junk did not seem worth it to me. I also turned down a bunch of extra trim pieces that were being offered, the sales woman asked if I knew that they were free (I did and they looked like crap so I still did not want them). They could not believe that someone would turn down free stuff.

Nang Rong is the closest Isuzu dealer, and why we bought it there. Nice truck
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: vpi78 on May 10, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
I have a 2012 2.2L Wildtrac that just rolled over 175k Klicks. They are ample power for Thailand as another poster has noted. Keep in mind that power/speed are relative and although that small of an engine might be small/slow in Australia, it's average size or larger in Thailand, especially considering all of the LPG/NPV, etc., cars around.

In the country you want higher ground clearance and low end torque passing power to get you around those slow sugar cane and similar overloaded lorries.

As far as Wildtrac v. XLT, I like the bigger 18-inch wheels on the Wildtrac. But either XLT or Wildtrac being from Australia you have to like the better pricing in Thailand since the trucks are made here in Rayong and shipped to Aussie-land where they attract import tax.

Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on May 11, 2017, 11:59:30 AM
We got the V-Cross with almost all the same options as the Maxx version (including 4x4 and auto trans for the wife). We were considering getting the Maxx version but for an extra 35,000 baht for the extra trim and other junk did not seem worth it to me. I also turned down a bunch of extra trim pieces that were being offered, the sales woman asked if I knew that they were free (I did and they looked like crap so I still did not want them). They could not believe that someone would turn down free stuff.

Nang Rong is the closest Isuzu dealer, and why we bought it there. Nice truck

HaHa, I know just what you mean - I'm not keen on all the "bling" on some of the top-spec models from various manufacturers.  And turning down free stuff!  There must have been a few "farang pee bar"s muttered in the back room.   :laugh:

We were at a Mazda dealer yesterday.  They had a new BT-50 out the front done up with a special edition paint job and all the off-road gear / roo bar / black wheels / fat tyres / spotlights.  I'd be mortified to be seen driving that, but plenty of people seem to like them - to each his own. 

The BT-50 itself has had a facelift though - not as ugly as it used to be.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: iammike on May 11, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
We got the V-Cross with almost all the same options as the Maxx version (including 4x4 and auto trans for the wife). We were considering getting the Maxx version but for an extra 35,000 baht for the extra trim and other junk did not seem worth it to me. I also turned down a bunch of extra trim pieces that were being offered, the sales woman asked if I knew that they were free (I did and they looked like crap so I still did not want them). They could not believe that someone would turn down free stuff.

Nang Rong is the closest Isuzu dealer, and why we bought it there. Nice truck

We are also looking at the V cross in addition to our Pajero Sport, but we both like the Maxx version because of the Dual Tone leather. We don't like the extra trim on top of the pickup bed, but according to the dealer that can be removed.

The dealer in Buriram offers a couple of extras but NO Free insurance. Is Nang Rong the same ? If so maybe worth our while to go to Nang Rong ;)
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Ahab on May 12, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
We did get one years worth of insurance when we purchased our truck in Nang Rong.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: maraudingscot on November 03, 2017, 10:03:49 AM
Hello Hermit,


Don't know if you have purchased yet! as this was way back in May.  :(

I bought the Chevrolet Colorado, High Country 2,5, moneysmile lovely vehicle, very comfortable and quiet. Doesn't sound like a pickup at all.   tired1

The only think I would say was DON'T buy the top of range model as you'll be frightened to use it to carry anything, best getting a model further down the list if it is going to be more of a work horse than anything else.

Chevrolet  buriramsmiley, have been great, only a few minor hiccups, but you get that with any dealership. Mainly communication, a lot gets lost in translation
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on February 12, 2018, 11:21:38 PM
Just to finish this off I guess - we ended up getting an Isuzu V-Cross Max.  Thanks for all your suggestions and advice. 

We got the Isuzu for several reasons - the old DMax we usually borrow in Thailand has almost 400k on it and still going strong (with minimal maintenance), and Isuzu after-sales service seems to have a good rep - there are certainly many of their vehicles on the road.  Isuzu have only sold their own product in Australia for around 10 years, having previously supplied re-badged models to the local General Motors franchise.   And their market share / reputation is growing there too.  My son drives a mid-spec model as his work truck in Sydney; I hate the way he drives it like a sports car but am impressed that he can.

I wanted 4WD so it had to be V-Cross, and my wife refuses to learn to drive a manual so it had to be Max.  I had decided on the non-Max V-Cross, but the 2018 model does not come in Auto - which is slightly bizarre.  And none of the Hi-Lander models come in 4WD. 

And yes, I am terrified of scratching the damn thing!  But I can borrow the brother in law's aging DMax if I need to carry anything "scratchy", at least for a year or so.   :biggrin:   Once we move over permanently / I get over the Max's "suwoi" looks I will remove the plastic trim from the top of the tub and replace the tub liner with a "workhorse" version.  Will also get one of those metal guards behind the cab to protect the roof when carrying long objects.  But I'll enjoy it as is for a while.   :) 

We bought from the Buriram dealer - 'Kings Yon' over toward the railway station.  Very happy with them - my wife did it all over 'Line' / the phone, with her brother visiting in person when necessary, and they had it there waiting for us on the requested date.  She got a 20k discount for being local, 2k for her brother as a finders fee, a year of first class insurance and a long list of accessories - 3M window film, brake security lock, spare wheel lock, lots of shiny chrome on doors etc and other stuff like T-shirts and a dust cover etc..  All in all I don't think she could have done much / any better in person.   

If we had done it in person we may have made some different choices though - the Isuzu website is absolute shite and not much help.  For example it wasn't until we walked into the dealership to collect the truck that I realised all (most?) colours have metallic paint, and I may have chosen a different colour had I known that.  But we needed something waiting for us on day 1 of this visit, it had to be this way.  And anyhoo, the white colour looks great with all the black trim / black alloys / dark windows IMO. 

Two different dealers told us the non-Max V-Cross is no longer available, but we now know they meant 'in auto'.  Big difference.  Plenty of scope for other more painful miscommunication there when not doing it in person. 

There are a few things I'm surprised at with the "top model" - no aircon vents in the back seat, I haven't found a way to dim the dash lights (but I don't have an English manual yet), and the ride is harsh.  It is just a Hi-Lander with leather seats and fancy trim.  But I knew the Isuzu is "workhorse" rather than "prestige"; buying the "show pony" model doesn't change that basic fact!  :biggrin:

Very happy with the power and responsiveness of the 3 litre motor too.  So nice not to have to get a run up when overtaking! 

So anyway, here I am with my Isuzu.  I'm in town until after Songkran on this visit, should be over permanently within two years.  White VCross, red plates.  Toot and I'll know you're an Expats member!  (Or an impatient a-hole  :biggrin:  )

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Phantom on February 13, 2018, 06:33:57 AM
Hey Hermit, great choice. I bought one of the first V Cross models about 6 years ago. Same spec as yours. Only done about 50K kms in that time. Touch wood, not a single thing has gone wrong with it. Got Australian pickup of year award about same time I bought it. So impressed with it that I also bought the MuX about 2 years ago.

If same as mine re illumination. I have an english manual. IGN on , Press and hold button on LH stork. Illumination will come up with Auto and Manual. Default is Auto Normal. Click same button to scroll down to Manual. Hold again same button to bring up +Illumination-   . click to change. Long click to confirm or leave it be and eventually the screen will disappear.

PM me if you require more info, great pickup.

OK, tin hats on awaiting inbound from Hilux lovers.
Title: Re: Pick-up truck - Buriram service centres
Post by: Hermit on February 17, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Ah, Thanks Phantom that did the trick.  For the benefit of anyone else without an English manual, mine is slightly different to yours:
 - 'select mode' screen on the dashboard display
 - press and hold LH stalk button
 - press LH stalk button to scroll down, RH stalk button to scroll up
 - press and hold to select 'illumination', do the same to select 'manual'
 - there is now an extra dashboard screen - Illumination - where the level can be adjusted

Thanks for that, much appreciated.  love5   We ordered an English manual three weeks ago, they told us it would be here within a week.   :)   

And yep, I'm loving the V-Cross too, so pleased I chose it.  But with my mother in law up north of Khon Khan and our place near Buriram I'm putting a few KM on it.  Might even get close enough to 10,000km on this trip to get the first service out of the way.  :(  Then again, maybe I can talk SWMBO into an MuX in a few years for the smoother highway ride.   :)

Cheers