Buriram Expats

Buriram Province - General Category => Real Estate, housing, house and land ownership => Topic started by: Freddy on August 07, 2017, 09:37:56 AM

Title: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on August 07, 2017, 09:37:56 AM
Been a while since the Yellow Housebook  topic was discussed and I'm wondering if the have been any changes.

I was discussing this with a friend in Saturday. He has been married to his Thai wife for 12 years but has been living/working in Singapore and visiting back here monthly.
He has now moved here permanently (3 weeks ago) and is I. The process of abtaining a Yellow book and Thai ID.

He visited the Lam Plait Mat land office and has been told the process is as follows.

1. They provided him with a letter that he had to present to Immigration in Buriram.
2. Buriram Immigration upon receipt of the letter gave him a Certificate of residence.
3. He needs a certified translation of his main passport page ( which he's getting done this week)
4. Photocopies of passport and photos etc.
5. Take all to land office and yellow book and ID card will be issued.

Sounds pretty simple so I may revisit myself as the process seems to have been smoothed out and previously (nearly 3 yrs ago) the land office told me I needed a certificate from British Embassy)

Can anyone advise please:-

Is it easier to obtain the yellow book if you are married and on an extension based on marriage.
Does the above sound correct and would it be the same if extension of stay is based on Retirement.

The reason I'm considering this is that I soon want to purchase a new motorbike and would prefer to have it in my name. My understanding is that the car and bike dealers no longer accept the certificate of residence from Buriram Police, that immigration are reluctant to issue them so a trip to Bangkok British Embassy is required.
I am also trying to verify an investment account in the UK and in the absence of a utility bill in my name they have asked for a Yellow Tabien Baan).

Advice please.





Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: iammike on August 07, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
One question though.

In option 5, you write land office, Typo ??

In my Amphur (Krasang) it was definitely easy to get a Housebook as a Married guy, when I did it it was the only way to get one. But recently a friend of mine got one in the same Amphur and he is NOT married and did the same steps as you described only 1 and 2 weren't necessary as he could use his gf's Blue Book and that was prove enough for them.

It sounds about correct, only I didn't know that Immigration doesn't want to issue "Residency certificate" anymore as I need one shortly to get a new 5 year driving license.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: jmcet on August 07, 2017, 11:41:34 AM
One question though.

In option 5, you write land office, Typo ??

In my Amphur (Krasang) it was definitely easy to get a Housebook as a Married guy, when I did it it was the only way to get one. But recently a friend of mine got one in the same Amphur and he is NOT married and did the same steps as you described only 1 and 2 weren't necessary as he could use his gf's Blue Book and that was prove enough for them.

It sounds about correct, only I didn't know that Immigration doesn't want to issue "Residency certificate" anymore as I need one shortly to get a new 5 year driving license.
Mike, FYI I was able to renew DL in Buriram using the  "Yellow Book"
Simple and easy just vision and reaction test...
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: iammike on August 07, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
@JMCET

Thanks, appreciated.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on August 07, 2017, 02:05:12 PM
One of those situations where different offices what different things at different time. I did did some translations for a guy who went to Ampher muang to get a yellow book. They said they were not issuing at that time.


Drivers licence in Buriram can be obtained/renewed with a letter from the police station, if you don't have a yellow book.

Which leads to a question...what are the real advantages of having a yellow book?
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: iammike on August 07, 2017, 02:38:15 PM

Which leads to a question...what are the real advantages of having a yellow book?

I can't tell you that yet, tried to use it at Banks and wasn't needed / not necessary. I haven't used it since I got it, but I always carry a copy of it when I go somewhere (just in case).

Maybe the first time I will use it is when renewing my 5 year driving license ;)
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on August 07, 2017, 04:46:08 PM
Iammike - your correct, I said Land Office because I believe the Amphur office on Lam Plait Mat is in the same building the wife registered some land ownership,

Starman. I've managed for the past 3 years without a Yellow book.
The 2 reasons I want one now are:-

1. My understanding is that to have a vehicle,bike/car, registered in my name the dealers no longer accept the Buriram Police Certificate of Residence. It has to be an Embassy certificate or presentation of house book. Buriram Immigration won't do a certificate of residence without a request letter and the dealers don't do the request letters.

2. The money laundering controls seem to be getting more stringent with UK investment companies. One company I have an account with is requesting proof of address and has specifically mentioned the Yellow Tabien Baan as an acceptable document in the absence of a utility or phone bill.
I'm currently in a situation where an account has been frozen because I can't get it verified.
Also I recently tried to open account with one of currency transfer companies but they couldn't verify my account with the info I was able to provide.

On that note, I would be interested to know what documents others provide in such circumstances. Our electricity is in the wife's name as is the water. We use pay as you go mobile phones. CAT wouldn't let me do the Internet account in my name because no Housebook or probably that it was just easier to do in Noi's name. Bangkok Bank don't do statements and the passbook doesn't show my address.

I now have 2 companies that have said they will only accept a utility bill, bank statement or Yellow Housebook (in Thai which they are willing to translate).

Frustrates the hell out of me. I'm not exactly a millionaire transferring huge amounts of money at regular intervals.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: iammike on August 07, 2017, 05:15:17 PM
Hi Freddy,

Fortunately the last time I was in my "Home" Country, I did all the verification's in person, but I can feel your pain.

Do you know someone who is "attached" or does know someone in the Amphur itself, that HELPS a lot. I had help of a local who knows the Boss of the Amphur and for me it was rather painless (long wait, but painless) and I didn't even need a Certified Translation of my passport (my Wife's Niece did that for me 55555)

I just remembered they also wanted the names (in Thai) of my Father and Mother. Maybe before you do all the legwork go and ask them as requirements seems to change from day to day.

Sorry that I can't help you any further.

Good Luck!

Edit: I just found the Thread where I described what I needed to get my Yellow House Book

http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,8283.msg53910.html#msg53910
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Buriramlanguageservices on August 07, 2017, 05:19:18 PM
We have assisted many expats in getting locked bank accounts unlocked.

There are a few of the high street banks in UK that now send annual checks to ask for confirmation of address.

A translated Thai driving licence has been accepted. One expat did not have a licence so we advised him to go to the police station and  get a certificate of residence, the same as if you were applying for a driving licence. Once translated into English this was also accepted.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on August 07, 2017, 05:30:51 PM
Wasn't there a post on here somewhere about a yellow book being refused when registering a vehicle? Was it Smooth that had the problem?

I don't have any personnal experience as all of our vehicles, 3 motorbikes and a pick up, are in my wife's name. Easier whe  buying and selling.

Before the doomers gloomers start commenting, if our relationship did go sour after 17 years together then she is welcome to them.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: iammike on August 07, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
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I don't have any personnal experience as all of our vehicles, 3 motorbikes and a pick up, are in my wife's name. Easier whe  buying and selling.

Before the doomers gloomers start commenting, if our relationship did go sour after 17 years together then she is welcome to them.


555555. Same here, but we are only together for 7 years ;)
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on August 07, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
Iammike. Thanks. I'm going to pay them a visit this week and also my friend is returning with his translated passport page and immigration document so should have a good idea of the Lam Plait Mat requirements then.

Buriram language services. Thank you for the suggestion. Bank accounts are OK as I did the changes of address whilst last in the UK although now my particular bank refuses to send replacement debit cards to Thailand. I've had to use my Daughters address in the UK for her to send in to me.

Just a head up for all. Although I think that the UK financial establishments apply the rules differently they are required to periodically re-verify accounts, particularly where anything above a normal bank rate of interest is being earned. I do some P2P lending and it is these companies that seem to want regular verification documents if residing in Thailand ( and I'm sure other parts of the world) and they aren't terribly flexible on what they accept.

Regarding vehicle ownership. For me, I simply like to feel that I own my car, of nothing else here.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: fishy on August 07, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
Freddy.. I am not married.. I looked at getting a yellow house book and did my research online through forums what was needed to obtain one.. Thai Visa Web sight is a really good link.... I gave up after finding a document which was the Thai Government requirements for a Foreigner to obtain a yellow book (In Thai script and legislated).. I met the requirements which means you need to show you are living in the kingdom on a permanent basis basically.. simple as that... You do not have to be Married either... In my case after visiting the local Ampher thinking this will be easy to get one they come up with the story I have to be Married to obtain the Yellow book... I knew I was not going to get anywhere after that because they put their heads back into Facebook. Story a bit longer than that but I just gave up... It was to hard for the Ampher to do something new like this and would loose face because fellang show them wrong.....

Keep updating what you find out..
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on August 07, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
Fishy - Will do mate. From what my friend is telling me the process applied at the Lam Plait Mat office is now considerably simpler than it was nearly 3 years ago. If it goes as he believes it will that is!!
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: DeputyDavid on August 08, 2017, 08:04:09 AM
They may make you wait for the ID card because they have to change the computer program to print the card so if a few thai cards need to be printed you wait. The documentation they have to do in their handwritten log book takes a lot of work so they won't be too quick to offer assistance. If they have streamlined the process then thank goodness. Great for the next guy.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Smithy on March 16, 2018, 09:38:56 PM
I got my Yellow Housebook many years ago,I think I was one of the first Ex-pats in Surin to get one .  cool1
Many people have posted on Forums over the years that getting one is a waste of time . :o
Well, I've been feeling under the weather for a while now with chest and back pains and a constant heavy feeling on my chest.
I did got to the local Hospital about a month ago but they couldn't find anything wrong.
Anyway I went again today because I still don't feel right and told them I wanted a full check-up. I had a ECG,X rays,Blood-pressure and blood taken for tests.
The Doctor told me my Heart is fine ,my Blood-pressure is normal and my X Rays look fine ( have to wait for the results of the blood test's ) .He seems to thing its a gas problem that is causing my chest jabbing pains  and  general tightness in the chest and back area.
Anyway to cut a long-winded story short ( spot the pun :) ) ,all this treatment was FREE including the Medication/Tablets because I have a YELLOW HOUSEBOOK and attended the hospital in our locale  thumbup
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on March 16, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
Don't need yellow book. I get free treatment at our local hospital because I am a registered patient there.

I don't have a yellow book. The first time I went there I took passport and wife's house book. Registered and free treatment.

Note... This does not cover you for provincial government hospital.

I do actually get free treatment there too as I am in the Thai Social Security scheme.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Smithy on March 16, 2018, 10:02:52 PM
Don't need yellow book. I get free treatment at our local hospital because I am a registered patient there.

I don't have a yellow book. The first time I went there I took passport and wife's house book. Registered and free treatment.

Note... This does not cover you for provincial government hospital.

I do actually get free treatment there too as I am in the Thai Social Security scheme.
When I went a month ago .I forgot my Yellow Housebook and although I am registered there they couldn't find my details so I had to pay for Medication/Tablets. It was only a 100 baht or so no big deal.
I did expect to pay for all the test today but it was a nice surprise to be told it was free. :)
So don't forget lads, get Registered  at your local Hospital  ;)
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on March 16, 2018, 10:04:27 PM
Smithy.......sent you a pm
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on March 16, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
Each address should have a file at the hospital. When I go now I just tell them my address and they find the file.

It's worth remembering that this only applies to certain levels of treatment. That treatment will also be limited to the facilities available at said hospital. Our local one, bearing in mind only 9kms from town, is nothing more that a clinic.

Most local hospitals will eventually refer you to a bigger and better equipped hospital where treatment will not be free.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Smithy on March 16, 2018, 10:20:26 PM
Smithy.......sent you a pm

replied :)
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Smithy on March 16, 2018, 10:41:52 PM
Each address should have a file at the hospital. When I go now I just tell them my address and they find the file.

It's worth remembering that this only applies to certain levels of treatment. That treatment will also be limited to the facilities available at said hospital. Our local one, bearing in mind only 9kms from town, is nothing more that a clinic.

Most local hospitals will eventually refer you to a bigger and better equipped hospital where treatment will not be free.

Obviously your local Hospital is far better run then ours. :)

Our Local Hospital is a fair size with many departments including Dental and the wife stayed there for 2 week in a isolation ward when she had TB .

My Mil was in Rattanaburi Hospital ( a bigger hospital than our local one ) when she had diabetes problems and even though its a biggish Hospital they sent her all the way to Surin to have another Toe removed ,so yes many local Hospitals are restricted on what services they can offer !
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: DeputyDavid on March 16, 2018, 10:54:32 PM
Has anyone had this experience in the government hospital in Buriram city?  They never ask for my yellow book and there is always a bill. Not much and not complaining but if I need to go again I?ll take my book.  I am registered there as well.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on March 16, 2018, 10:56:43 PM
I mentioned earlier that treatment at the main provincial hospital will not be free, unless you have personal cover.

Being registered as a previous patient and being registered under your address is different.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Starman on March 17, 2018, 07:26:20 AM
Don't need yellow book. I get free treatment at our local hospital because I am a registered patient there.

I don't have a yellow book. The first time I went there I took passport and wife's house book. Registered and free treatment.

Note... This does not cover you for provincial government hospital.

I do actually get free treatment there too as I am in the Thai Social Security scheme.
When I went a month ago .I forgot my Yellow Housebook and although I am registered there they couldn't find my details so I had to pay for Medication/Tablets. It was only a 100 baht or so no big deal.
I did expect to pay for all the test today but it was a nice surprise to be told it was free. :)
So don't forget lads, get Registered  at your local Hospital  ;)

Blimey. If Rattanaburi hospital is bigger then your local one must be reasonably small. Our local one has no facilities for in patients. It is purely a clinic in support of the main hospital, as we are situated within Muang District.

At least there is a nice place to eat if you are visiting someone in hospital in Rattanaburi. 555
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Pichai on March 17, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
Mr.  Bob  a native of California recently  visited a Doctor and pharmacy of the out patient department of Buriram Government Hospital after store hours. Minimal wait and a 96 baht bill including pharmacy medication. He has a Yellow House Book, Thai ID and Buriram Government Hospital Patient card. The card and ID are not employment related. Mr. Moses is younger and has  different employment related costs at this hospital.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Pichai on March 17, 2018, 03:07:29 PM
Mr. Bob also paid 8050 baht for an M.R.I. in 2017 at the Buriram Government Hospital. That may be the same price to all patients for this leased  M.R.I. clinic located on the hospital compound in Buriram.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Freddy on March 17, 2018, 06:39:19 PM
That's interesting. In 2014 I was told there was no MRI available in Buriram  good to know it is now available here.
Title: Re: Yellow Housebook Question
Post by: Pichai on March 18, 2018, 09:29:13 PM
 MRI at Buriram Government Hospital.