Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Thailand News clippings => Topic started by: nookiebear on May 31, 2012, 10:35:04 AM
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In Addition to the regular speed cameras on Highway 24 between Nang Rong & Nong Ki ,some new ones have recently appeared on the same road but just before the CP factory heading towards Chok Chai......There are a pair of them sitting on tripods on the nearside verge (you'll see a silver car parked up),then as you go around a right hand curve the roadblock is in front of you.Its manned by about 20 Korat Municipal Police & they are certainly collecting a fair wedge of T Money....I've yet to see them on the opposite carriageway.
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In Addition to the regular speed cameras on Highway 24 between Nang Rong & Nong Ki ,some new ones have recently appeared on the same road but just before the CP factory heading towards Chok Chai......There are a pair of them sitting on tripods on the nearside verge (you'll see a silver car parked up),then as you go around a right hand curve the roadblock is in front of you.Its manned by about 20 Korat Municipal Police & they are certainly collecting a fair wedge of T Money....I've yet to see them on the opposite carriageway.
Good info. They started in Bangkok and arrived to Isaan so quick... :wacko: :blink:
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In Addition to the regular speed cameras on Highway 24 between Nang Rong & Nong Ki ,some new ones have recently appeared on the same road but just before the CP factory heading towards Chok Chai......There are a pair of them sitting on tripods on the nearside verge (you'll see a silver car parked up),then as you go around a right hand curve the roadblock is in front of you.Its manned by about 20 Korat Municipal Police & they are certainly collecting a fair wedge of T Money....I've yet to see them on the opposite carriageway.
Good info. They started in Bangkok and arrived to Isaan so quick... :wacko: :blink:
They've been using them up here for at least the last 5 years,that is just a new location for where they are using them
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In Addition to the regular speed cameras on Highway 24 between Nang Rong & Nong Ki ,some new ones have recently appeared on the same road but just before the CP factory heading towards Chok Chai......There are a pair of them sitting on tripods on the nearside verge (you'll see a silver car parked up),then as you go around a right hand curve the roadblock is in front of you.Its manned by about 20 Korat Municipal Police & they are certainly collecting a fair wedge of T Money....I've yet to see them on the opposite carriageway.
Good info. They started in Bangkok and arrived to Isaan so quick... :wacko: :blink:
They've been using them up here for at least the last 5 years,that is just a new location for where they are using them
Agree with NB they have been around for over 5 years in the area...
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The lone speed camera man on the 24 has moved his location.............Yesterday afternoon,I spotted his white pick up with carry boy parked outside a closed eating place pretty close to here.......Having a look to see where he was,he was sitting in a disused vendor stall on the opposite carriageway with his camera perched on its counter.So beware if you are travelling from Nong Ki towards Nang Rong this bastard is around 7km from Nong Ki.
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A pic of the carry boy would help.
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Noob question, what is the speed limit? 90?
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A pic of the carry boy would help.
Sometimes he is in a white mini-bus or an ordinary white pick up(no carryboy)......but its the same guy in a dark blue uniform
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Noob question, what is the speed limit? 90?
Yes
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A pic of the carry boy would help.
Sometimes he is in a white mini-bus or an ordinary white pick up(no carryboy)......but its the same guy in a dark blue uniform
Next time you are fown that way could you please get out of your car and take a photo of said vehicle. Maybe some east and west aspect shots. A selfie with the policeman would be useful. Oh...and don't forget the GPS coordinates.
Just to help the hard of thinking among us.
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Yeah come on Nookie, not nearly enough information. Can't buy a drone and get some decent pics?
I don't know why you bother posting if you can't do a proper job thumbup
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What more info do you need?
"if you are travelling from Nong Ki towards Nang Rong this bastard is around 7km from Nong Ki."
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A pic of the carry boy would help.
Sometimes he is in a white mini-bus or an ordinary white pick up(no carryboy)......but its the same guy in a dark blue uniform
Next time you are fown that way could you please get out of your car and take a photo of said vehicle. Maybe some east and west aspect shots. A selfie with the policeman would be useful. Oh...and don't forget the GPS coordinates.
Just to help the hard of thinking among us.
He is not dressed as a copper.........Wears a very dark blue uniform with some sort of badge on the sleeve of his shirt
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He is not dressed as a copper.........Wears a very dark blue uniform with some sort of badge on the sleeve of his shirt
Problem is that if you spot him -however he might be dressed - it is too late! Your'e nabbed!
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Why not just stick to the speed limit then there is no need to get paranoid about cameras
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Why not just stick to the speed limit then there is no need to get paranoid about cameras
Very good point....and if instead of paying 100/200baht, there was a sensible fine of say 5,000baht for speeding, msot people would obey the speed limits, and the road carnage would be significantly reduced.
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Why not just stick to the speed limit then there is no need to get paranoid about cameras
Very good point....and if instead of paying 100/200baht, there was a sensible fine of say 5,000baht for speeding, msot people would obey the speed limits, and the road carnage would be significantly reduced.
madbar
Only way to stop the carnaige is for them to look :blink: before they actually do something, like overtake, or pull out of a junction!! jumping8
I have seen countless times when someone just wanders out of a side road and not even look, or just overtake, then realise that there are vehicles coming towards them, jumping1 so instead of pulling back in... they just flash their headlights, as though that will magically make you disappear!!
oldmanwithstick
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madbar
Only way to stop the carnaige is for them to look :blink: before they actually do something, like overtake, or pull out of a junction!! jumping8
I have seen countless times when someone just wanders out of a side road and not even look, or just overtake, then realise that there are vehicles coming towards them, jumping1 so instead of pulling back in... they just flash their headlights, as though that will magically make you disappear!!
oldmanwithstick
+1. And that is a result of NO Driving Education, they just get on a bike (in a) car and drive.
How difficult it is to get a license back in Europe (in my Country at the moment a waiting list of 12 weeks, so if you fail you have to wait another 12 weeks, and with the prices a driving instructor charges you don't wanna do that too many times ;) ) with a practical exam of 50 minutes (with an independent examiner) and you have to get your theoretical exam first (50 questions have to have at least 41 correct.)
Here it's just a ride around a closed of track / circuit (crazy)
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+1. Add to that the absence of any serious consequence for any breaking of the traffic rules/laws and a corrupt Police department, then there is little hope.
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I would love to see the Army come down hard against the corrupt police.
Regards
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Despite the comments above I do enjoy driving here. Expect the unexpected all of the time and most will keep out of trouble. One thing is for sure, I can cover much greater distances in much less time than I could in the UK.
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+1. Add to that the absence of any serious consequence for any breaking of the traffic rules/laws and a corrupt Police department, then there is little hope.
+1, and about time they start introducing driving license demerit Points here, too many points and your license would be suspended for 90 days or something like that.
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Why not just stick to the speed limit then there is no need to get paranoid about cameras
Very good point....and if instead of paying 100/200baht, there was a sensible fine of say 5,000baht for speeding, msot people would obey the speed limits, and the road carnage would be significantly reduced.
From my limited knowledge of these cameras where the ticket comes thro the post ,they appear to be 500 baht for under 120km/hr.1000baht between 120 & 140 km/hr....They are actual cases of a chap who got nailed by 2 of them on the Saraburi-Korat within 90 minutes of each other
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I got one in the post for 1,000 from Saraburi.
I read an article a while back (think it was Bangkok Post) that said 85% of the postal tickets didn't get paid. Apparently they were looking to introduce a system where the unpaid ticket information was forwarded to the vehicle registration and tax offices for collection at yearly renewal. No idea if the system is in place.
When I paid my ticket at Lam Plait Mat post office the guy on the counter said I was the 7th to pay for a ticket that morning. Some indication of just how many get caught.
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I got a ticket for running a red light in Bangkok (it was a close call and the three cars following me went free) my licence was duly taken from me and I was told to go to the local police station to pay a fine and get my licence back. My wife actually went to the station with the ticket carrying our 6 month screaming daughter. The cop behind the desk took pity and down graded my offence to a 50 baht fine. The cop told my wife that I had to be careful about racking up points as they are kept in the system and my licence could be revoked, so there is a points system in place.
Non paid speeding ticket or other such tickets are held against the registration of the vehicle so, if the tickets are not paid you cannot transfer ownership when you come to sell the vehicle unless all outstanding amounts are paid irrelevant of who the driver was.
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<snip>. The cop told my wife that I had to be careful about racking up points as they are kept in the system and my licence could be revoked, so there is a points system in place.
Thx, that I didn't know
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Non paid speeding ticket or other such tickets are held against the registration of the vehicle so, if the tickets are not paid you cannot transfer ownership when you come to sell the vehicle unless all outstanding amounts are paid irrelevant of who the driver was.
And AFAIK, if you have unpaid tickets you even can't renew your tax disc until the fines are paid in full.
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The lone speed camera man on the 24 has moved his location.............Yesterday afternoon,I spotted his white pick up with carry boy parked outside a closed eating place pretty close to here.......Having a look to see where he was,he was sitting in a disused vendor stall on the opposite carriageway with his camera perched on its counter.So beware if you are travelling from Nong Ki towards Nang Rong this bastard is around 7km from Nong Ki.
Back in his "usual" position yesterday lunchtime ,hiding in a gateway just after the mushroom stalls...in a white minibus this time.
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This man is not a bastard, just doing his job of reducing the already massive toll of accidents on Thailands roads
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Hello Tommy, spoken like a true ex copper love2.
Hammers unlucky last night, mate.
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This man is not a bastard, just doing his job of reducing the already massive toll of accidents on Thailands roads
How does what he is doing reduce the massive death toll accidents on Thai Roads?
The vast majority of the people who will have fines dropping through their letterbox will not even have seen him.
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This man is not a bastard, just doing his job of reducing the already massive toll of accidents on Thailands roads
How does what he is doing reduce the massive death toll accidents on Thai Roads?
The vast majority of the people who will have fines dropping through their letterbox will not even have seen him.
The thing about mobile speed cameras world wide is they are about revenue raising not reducing road toll, despite what spin they put on it.
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They may not have seen him this time but they will know for their next journey along that road. A least he is doing something, maybe not be a lot, but every little helps.
The trouble with most Thais is that they drive looking at the end of the bonnet, they do not look ahead and they do not anticipate, these are thing that are instilled in most foreign drivers. It is probably too late to start a course of education and the videos in the driving licence centre are pointless.
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This man is not a bastard, just doing his job of reducing the already massive toll of accidents on Thailands roads
How does what he is doing reduce the massive death toll accidents on Thai Roads?
The vast majority of the people who will have fines dropping through their letterbox will not even have seen him.
The thing about mobile speed cameras world wide is they are about revenue raising not reducing road toll, despite what spin they put on it.
PLUS 1
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They may not have seen him this time but they will know for their next journey along that road. A least he is doing something, maybe not be a lot, but every little helps.
The trouble with most Thais is that they drive looking at the end of the bonnet, they do not look ahead and they do not anticipate, these are thing that are instilled in most foreign drivers. It is probably too late to start a course of education and the videos in the driving licence centre are pointless.
The 24 around here must be the most policed area in Thailand,you can hit 4 speed cameras in a 50km stretch..........still they drive like Morons with a death wish........A new speed camera was in operation last Friday just outside Prasat!
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I don't believe speeding in itself is the problem. The dual carriageway of the 24 is fine for speeds in excess of 90kph. The problem is lack of education of driving ability. Pulling out and u-turning without looking. driving the wrong way, hogging outside lanes of dual carriageways etc etc. Far too late to educate those already driving, and regrettably the schools do not teach future drivers, preferring to teach other unnecessary subjects.
The only way to improve standards is to fine HEAVILY, for all infractions, confiscate vehicles for a limited duration, and ban/imprison drunk drivers. All sadly pie in the sky!
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Agree. The improvement in overall driving standards throughout the western world over the past 30-40 years have not come about through a self disciplined moral responsibility by the individual driver/rider.
It is education combined with real consequence ( both lacking in this country) that forces people to drive more safely. As Westeners we like to preach about driving standards and safety however years ago we all had to be dragged kicking and screaming into that mindset.
40-50 years ago the UK & USA had the same amount of drunk drivers on the roads,
What goes terribly wrong here is that the driving population is increasing at significant rates but the training, legislation and law enforcement hasn't kept pace. Add to that the widespread corruption and weak government, nothing is likely to change.
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A little off topic ... but here goes. About 2 years ago my wife obtained her first ever car drivers licence.
I was back in Australia at the time, so I don't know how she got it, or what was involved. I think it was done via BRY Honda (near Ekachon Hospital in M.Buriram). I didn't even know she was taking lessons.
Anyway, she was proud as punch to show me her new licence. "Can we go for a drive ?"
I drive us out into the boonies 15km from M.Buriram. Picked a nice quiet back road, and she jumped into the driver seat. She was a bit nervous, and didn't know the buttons etc, but that's understandable.
Away we go. Cautious, steady. That's my girl. No hurry. No need to be rash. Cruising through 15kmph now .... buffaloes grazing by the roadside were keeping pace with us, 2 schoolkids on bicycles overtook us, the fuel economy gauge was showing that we were achieving 97 km per litre ................
All good, until horror of horrors !!!!!!!!!!
An "S" bend in the road !!!
It's an interesting experience sitting in the front passenger seat, whilst negiotating a blind S bend completely on the wrong side of the road. At 15kmph, it seemed to take forever.
We survived.
Three more country drives over the next few weeks, led me to the conclusion that as a car driver, she is a terrific scooter rider.
It would be absolute suicide to let her loose on the open highway, or even around town. Yet, she has a 100% valid driver licence issued at M.Buriram DLT. It's ridiculous, crazy and stunningly dangerous.
Oh .... speed cameras ? More chance of being fined for loitering than speeding.
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My wife is a pretty good driver and obtained her license via the test that Thais have to. She always tell the police when stopped that she didn't buy her license!!
But she does get quite aggressive with other drivers sometimes.
I am sure we all think we are good drivers, but I do speed when making the regular trips to Swampy as 90kmph seems so pedestrian. We have all seen poor driving on Thai roads, if only they would learn to look in the mirrors that would cut down many accidents.