Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Freddy on April 26, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
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We just had our Pool finished and are very happy with the build and end result. Should anyone be considering a pool project I can thoroughly recommend Issan Pools based in Surin. I did a lot of research before selecting them and have not been disappointed. Build quality has been fantastic and end result is superb. Issan Pools have a link on the Surin Farang website. I'll try and get some pictures posted below.
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Will lik:-)e that. Going to make one myself end this year and pleased to hear thats a Company in the area :-)
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Having trouble posting pics. If provide email am happy to send.
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Cost and size of pool ??
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12m x 6m. O.6 shallow for 4m slope to 1.8m. 8'LED lights, 2 ladders, 3 jacuzzi jets, built in seat area with steps either side. Fully tiled with crackle glazed. Salt water chlorinator (autumn Solar from Australia) emaux 1.5 pump, emaux filter. 30 cm sand stone surround. 1,079,000. We had some additional decking and stone work done on top. Not the cheapest out here but built to high standards with 2 layers of steel and 300 strength concrete floor and walls. Pool can be emptied if necessary with no structural concers. Also we opted for more expensive tiles so would have been down a bit if had chosen the basic ones.
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Sorry, should have said. Pool is a weir system ( overflow). If skimmer quite a bit cheaper but we have trees all around so had to go with overflow.
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Nice
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Very nice! Relaxing I'm sure!
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Anyone have info about JD Pools ? Seem like they have an office in Korat. The composite models on their website looks tempting,but
i know nothing about total costs (installed in my Buriram property)
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I looked at JD Pools and I think they have a reasonable reputation. Bob at the Buriram builders merchants used them I think so may be worth popping in the store and chatting with him. I think JD also do liner pools. Both are a cheaper option than a tiled. From memory I think a largest fibreglass pool with all pumps, filters etc would be around 600 to 700k.
Swimming Pools Thailand are worth a look also and cover this area. They do some package prices on In ground concrete/ tiled pools up to 8x4m and they are prices very reasonably.
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Have you tried these guys as they are local??
http://isaanpools.com/
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We just had our Pool finished and are very happy with the build and end result. Should anyone be considering a pool project I can thoroughly recommend Issan Pools based in Surin. I did a lot of research before selecting them and have not been disappointed. Build quality has been fantastic and end result is superb. Issan Pools have a link on the Surin Farang website. I'll try and get some pictures posted below.
See original post abobe. This is the company we used
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Have you tried these guys as they are local??
http://isaanpools.com/
Thanks a lot for reply. The composite pool seems to need lesser maintanance in general. Considering im only in Buriram 1-2 times a year. JD`s website doesent show prices. Interessted in the model: Swim Plus AND Harvest
Swimmingpools Thailand does offer great prices on tiled pools,but do they deliver an innstall in Buriram area ?
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I spoke with them also and they do cover all areas. However, I believe they will charge a supplement....I.e. Living expenses for the workers.
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Should anyone be considering a pool project I can thoroughly recommend Issan Pools based in Surin. I did a lot of research before selecting them and have not been disappointed.
Freddy,
Even though Issan pools was not the cheapest your research lead you to choose them. Can I ask why ? What was different about them that made you prepared to choose them and pay more ?
Also do you mind sharing the quotes you got from other companies that were competing against Issan pools ?
Mike
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Hi Mike.
There were many factors. Prior to speaking with poll companies I had done a lot of research on the internet so had an idea of what I expected to hear when discussing my build. It was very important for me that the pool strength would allow emptying without any loss of structural integrity.
Paul Bodkin who owns Issan Pools was a structural Engineer in the UK for many years and is clearly very knowledgable. He uses 300 strength concrete for the wals and floor and also two layers of steel for both. All tile cement and grouting plus filters, pumps, pipe work are highest quality and no corners are cut. When the CPAC is delivered, samples are taken and tested to ensure strength ordered is what has been delivered.
Another important aspect for me was just general attitude. Paul was willing to answer all my questions and discuss all options prior to signing a contract, I was also shown around 3 other pools that he has constructed in the area.
The attitude of some of the other companies I spoke with was pretty poor.mthey didn't like questions and in a couple of cases were arrogant and actually criticised me when I asked specifics about the build process.
I don't remember all the quotes I got as I deleted them once I opted for Issan Pools however they ranged from 700,000 to 1,000,000.
I think it may have been possible to build my pool for around 800,000 of a skimmer system ( not overflow as we have) but the tiles would be plain and the structure not as strong. Probably stronger than it need to be but I only plan on doing this once.
Also remember I added jacuzzi jets, extra ladder and 8'LED lights. Overall for size and quality I thought price was reasonable.
If you have an email address I can send you pics. Unable to load to BE site.
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Freddy,
Thanks - I will send you a PM with my email address.
Mike
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Freddy, are there any issues with ongoing maintenance ?
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No issues as yet but only up and running for a fortnight. We filled with town water, sent a sample to Bangkok and they provided a report on exactly what needed to be added to get the water properly balanced. All pools require a degree of maintenance and I'm still learning. I Hoover it once a week and scrub the walls with a nylon brush. Currently I'm testing the water daily because the salt water chlorinator is so efficient it was producing to much. It was set to high and is now on low which seems to be sufficient. We put the initial salt dose in 2 weeks ago and as yet I haven't had to add any more. Depending on time of year it may need a sack a fortnight at 139 baht. If no rain then maybe only a sack a month. Basically the chlorinator control will tell me when it's needed. If it can't produce chlorine a light illuminates and I know I need to chuck in a sack of salt. I've put Zelbrite in the filter which should be good for 10 to 15 years. I will backwash the filter and rinse it once a week initially but will probably only do it once a fortnight henceforth.
The pump is on a timer so it automatically turns the water over once a day. It's a 1.5HP so will complete task in 5-6 hours. Not sure what electric that will use as yet but am told it won't be that much.
Apart from that it's just making sure leaves are removed as necessary.
I guess at the moment I'm spending 20 mins a day and an additional 30 mins if I scrub and Hoover.
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Forgot to say. The chlorinator we bought is self cleaning so we won't have the hassle of cleaning the cell which is one of the problems with salt chlorinators. That's a big plus. It's an Autumn Solar from Australia. Expensive but very efficient and well worth it.
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Is that something you imported or something the pool builder had in stock?
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I believe the pool builder imports from Aistralia as required. I don't think he holds a stock of the chlorinators.
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Thankyou for god information
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Whilst I am sure you are happy with the quality of your equipment, Emaux is chinese made and the cheapest brand available in Australia or Thailand. There are much higher quality brands available ie Hayward (US Made). As for an Autumn Solar chlorinator, (chinese made) they are very new to making chlorinators and time will tell if their product stacks up. They are certainly not a recognised chlorinator manufacturer and are more than likely using an OEM design from someone else. Zelbrite isn't really used anymore in Australia either, (it was all the rage 15 years ago) with glass being the preferred filter media due to it's higher quality filtration, longer life and lower backwashing requirements
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I'm by no means a pump, filter or chlorinator expert. I guess time will tell regarding longevity of the Emaux kit. Appreciate there are many brands out there and favourites in different parts of the world. I wasn't aware that Autumn Solar are a new company. My research focused more on the structural build. However, I liked the idea of the Autumn Solar Chlorinator as it has a self cleaning salt cell. A bug bare of many pool owners with chlorinators is cleaning the cell so hopefully I have avoided that. Pool up and running for a month now. Over the last fortnight we have had several very heavy rain storms. Pool water has recovered clarity and chlorine levels within 24 hours following rain, so to date I am happy with performance.
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Given t he forum is very quiet and there were a few out there interested, I thought I'd provide a quick update regarding our Pool. It's been in for 6 months now and is used daily. To date I have had no issues with the pump, filter or salt water chlorinator.
Due to climate here the learning curve for water management lasted a couple of months. I had some issues with the water clouding up ( very slight) however I found that this was due to my Total Alkalinity being a little low. I also learned that when using a Salt Water Chlorinator the chlorine produced is not stablised and can quickly burn off in the sun. Solution to this was periodically adding a very small amount of Cyanic Acid which acts a s a sun block. Stabilising chlorine tablets added have this incorporated however they also have calcium added and my water he has sufficient calcium.
Basically all I add to my water is bicarbonate of soda to keep Total Alkalinity in range, sack of salt every couple of weeks algicide dose every month and that's about it. I haven't had to shock the pool and to date have had no algae issues. I purchase salt and Algaecide from Ruangtangshai (mr Pichai and Bob) and order additional from Swimming Pools Thailand who have a very good delivery service.
I Hoover every 10 days or so and scrub the walls, corners, steps once a week. I check the water for TA, PH, Chlorine and Salt every couple of days but invariably all is OK so I probably don't need to do this as often.
I did make one additional purchase. I found that when there was heavy rain after a dry period the water remained a little hazy. It seems that very fine particles could not filter out effectively. To solve this I purchased a submersible pump with a 2 metre filter sock. If the problem occurs ( only 3 times in 6 months) I throw it in overnight and water is crystal clear again.
Overall and to date pool has been pretty much stress free. As stated, a few learning curves but all info can be found on line easily and I haven't encountered any unsolvable problems.
Appreciate not of interest to many but for those considering a pool I hope this assists. Happy Swimming🏊🏽
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Very helpfull Freddy and should give all those wishing to build a pool some confidence to go ahead with it.
Bart
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Just got back from 9 days away and water looking good with no interaction other than timed pump cycle I and filtering.
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Very Nice....
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Thanks for your updates Freddy
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Beautiful oasis.
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Had a 4 x 6 overflowpool just build by an professional hotelpoolbuilder . Fine pece of work i must say. Quality all the way. This guy lives in Buriram. Prize : 300.000 Baht incl wide sundeck. No need to spend millions guys character4
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Sounds fabulous. A picture would be great.
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I am also looking forward to a photo of the pool and the contact details of the builder.
Regards
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I am also looking forward to a photo of the pool and the contact details of the builder.
Regards
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You can all go and have a look yourself.
My sweet motherinlaw lives there while im in Norway.
Its on road 2074 about 15 min. drive. Name of village is Phra Kru Jai (on google maps) Just ask for Miss Sawai Daram. She`s home
all day long,and can provide you with contactdetails to the builder. Ps. She dont speak English !
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Any photos to share? If anyone does go look, maybe they can post some photos for the rest of us? Thanks in advance.
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Thats very good price.
Did just get a price estimate for same size from reliable (hope :-) ) company in Buriram for same type and size for thb 513.000 for pool with saltwater clorinator but without the pump.
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Thats very good price.
Did just get a price estimate for same size from reliable (hope :-) ) company in Buriram for same type and size for thb 513.000 for pool with saltwater clorinator but without the pump.
Which is about the price I would expect for a pool that size. A pool can be made to look beautiful but if the structure isn't as it should be then there may well be problems down the line ( especially when it is emptied).
300,000 seems incredibly cheap. I'm not trying to be negative and if it has been built to a high standard then I am extremely envious that zzzozzz managed to get it at that price.
Ovalhome......good luck with your pool. Apart from the cold snap last week I use mine every day and consider it the best single investment I have made here.
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Thats very good price.
Did just get a price estimate for same size from reliable (hope :-) ) company in Buriram for same type and size for thb 513.000 for pool with saltwater clorinator but without the pump.
Which is about the price I would expect for a pool that size. A pool can be made to look beautiful but if the structure isn't as it should be then there may well be problems down the line ( especially when it is emptied).
300,000 seems incredibly cheap. I'm not trying to be negative and if it has been built to a high standard then I am extremely envious that zzzozzz managed to get it at that price.
Ovalhome......good luck with your pool. Apart from the cold snap last week I use mine every day and consider it the best single investment I have made here.
Reading between the lines I think that many of us are a bit dubious about all this, I am hoping that you won't be disappointed.
What kind of construction is the pool? Reinforced concrete ?
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I am proud to state that I have met and do business with several expats who build swimming pools in Buriram and Surin province. No question which swimming pool builders order proper concrete, steel, tile adhesive, tile grout, 4" by 4" specific swimming pool tiles and name brand water filter systems. I've had the honor to be invited to several swimming pools built by a Surin based expat who builds swimming pools to a top standard. There may be other expats who build swimming pools on a professional level, yet I have not been invited yet to see the pools under construction or completed. I stock and sell sand filters, swimming pool pumps, spa pumps, swimming pool equipment and swimming pool water treatment chemicals. It takes two days maximum to spec out the equipment for a swimming pool. It is a more difficult job, best done by professionals, to spec the steel and concrete necessary in a particular swimming pool in Buriram. Kera Tile with Crocodile or Weber tile grout, tile adhesive is a top selling item at Ruangsangthai. Please enjoy some free coffee served by the Hitachi models while you consider the swimming pool equipment on display at my family owned builders merchants.
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Here`s a pic a short time before finished. 4 x 7 meters
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More pics.
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Heres a pic of a testrun. In the back the pumphouse and to the right the surge tank (for the overflow water)
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I am proud to state that I have met and do business with several expats who build swimming pools in Buriram and Surin province. No question which swimming pool builders order proper concrete, steel, tile adhesive, tile grout, 4" by 4" specific swimming pool tiles and name brand water filter systems. I've had the honor to be invited to several swimming pools built by a Surin based expat who builds swimming pools to a top standard. There may be other expats who build swimming pools on a professional level, yet I have not been invited yet to see the pools under construction or completed. I stock and sell sand filters, swimming pool pumps, spa pumps, swimming pool equipment and swimming pool water treatment chemicals. It takes two days maximum to spec out the equipment for a swimming pool. It is a more difficult job, best done by professionals, to spec the steel and concrete necessary in a particular swimming pool in Buriram. Kera Tile with Crocodile or Weber tile grout, tile adhesive is a top selling item at Ruangsangthai. Please enjoy some free coffee served by the Hitachi models while you consider the swimming pool equipment on display at my family owned builders merchants.
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Nice looking pool!
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Khun Kyllo: The swimming pool team of Ruangsangthai is delighted to see your concrete tiled swimming pool in operation at your home not far from my hardware store. Mr. Aud was proud to help you select the Rowel 2hp swimming pool pump and the Jazzi 700 liter sand filter which your Buriram Swimming Pool Builder installed at your home. This Sunny Saturday morning a semi truck with two full trailers of TRS swimming pool salt have arrived to be unloaded, stacked on pallets, plastic wrapped and placed in my covered warehouse in Buriram. I now have a Zodiac TRI swimming pool salt chlorinator in stock at Buriram Home Builders Merchants store. Pool and Spa delivered a pallet of Cleartrine and a pallet of Swimtrine swimming pool chemicals on Thursday to my Buriram Water Pump Shop. The name brand and generic brand swimming pool chemicals are in stock next to the Zelbrite from Australia. Thank you, Mr. Pichai
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A bit info : 60 cm thick reinforced concrete wall on all sides. 140 to 160 cm debth. total width is 90 cm. sandfilter-system with a 8000 baht pump, all bought at Ruang sang thai. Total cost all together with paintjob, 380.000 baht. Any questions, feel free to ask
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Looks great. Happy swimming.
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A bit info : 60 cm thick reinforced concrete wall on all sides. 140 to 160 cm debth. total width is 90 cm. sandfilter-system with a 8000 baht pump, all bought at Ruang sang thai. Total cost all together with paintjob, 380.000 baht. Any questions, feel free to ask
zzzozzz, can I ask - the 380k you have now quoted is 27% higher than the 300k you quoted in an earlier post.
Was that 'extras' or an over spend ?
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I agreed to a prize ( 300 ) and went home to Norway. At that point i hoped it would be enough and so did the builder. Had to spit in 80 extra to get it finished.
Anyway i`m pleased with the total cost.
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I agreed to a prize ( 300 ) and went home to Norway. At that point i hoped it would be enough and so did the builder. Had to spit in 80 extra to get it finished.
Anyway i`m pleased with the total cost.
Thank you - it looks a nice pool.
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Yes it does look very refreshing. Well worth the money.
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Yes it does look very refreshing. Well worth the money.
Thank you :-)
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It's just short of 2 years since our pool,was built so a quick update for anyone interested and/or considering a pool build.
When I posted about the original build I mentioned that I had purchased a Aurumn Solar Salt Water Chlorinator. One member posted on reply that Autumn Solar were a new company and their chlorinators unproven to date. Seems he was right. The salt cell failed about 14 months in with the replacement cell also failed a couple of weeks ago. The cells are not cheap at (16,000) so I bit he bullet and now have a Hayward Aquarite with the biggest cell available. Currently it's running so effectively its dialled down to about 20% production. Seems to be a very simple system to operate and I believe is the best selling chlorinator system in the world ( apparently, maybe) .
Whilst changing the chlorinator I decided to upgrade the pump also. The original pump has operated trouble free since installation and is now boxed up as a spare ( just in case).
The new one is an Emaux Eco pump. Not cheap but there were several reasons for the change.
It's variable speed so I can run it at a much lower rpm. This improves filtration and reduces strain on the whole system whilst in normal filtration mode. It also means that because I run the filter for longer I can dial down the chlorinator which should protect and improve the salt cell life. ( that's the theory anyway).
Should save a considerable amount on electric. My normal running speed is equivalent to 2.5 100 watt light bulbs. That's opposed to around 2kw per hour with the old pump.
It's whisper quiet. Literally can't hear it with the door closed on the pump room. Makes for a much more relaxing environment.
Apart from that all is good and 2 years along I enjoy the pool pretty much every day.
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Only had mine for 3 weeks but enjoy it normally at least twice daily.
But quite novice on pool at the moment, so how many hours are you running your pool daily?
We have been doing 4 hours since pool only 6x4 meter and we are 2 People but think increase it to 8 hours.
Instruction book say time should be increased in "hot temperature" so think might be a good idea.
Have Emaux Saltwater Clorinator system bought and installed by Ruangsangthai.
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Hi Ovalhome.
Pump rain tIme depends on a couple of things. You need to calculate your pool volume in gallons and then check a) your pump capacity gallons per minute and also your filter capacity. The aim is to ensure you turn the entire pool volume over at least once every 24 hours. 4 hours sounds like it may be a little on the short side.
If you pm me with your filter / pump / pool depth details I'll work it out for you.