Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: urleft on February 07, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
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I’m starting a new topic so I can readily go back at reference the requirements.
I successfully obtained a new retirement extension from KCI on 6 Feb. I put together a packet and it was complete as I could have made it.
So if you are going for a retirement extension, have the following:
· TM 7, printed on a single sheet front and back. (attached)
· Color Photo 4 x 6 cm (I already had mine attached to the TM 7)
· Passport
· Copies of all used pages from your Passport. Sign each page.
· Copies of house book, sign each page. I also had the house book but the agent did not check it.
· Proof of income. I have used both a bank statement and letter from Embassy, both worked.
· Thai income form. (attached)
· Acknowledgement form (attached)
· 1900 baht.
Now if you are not leaving Thailand, this is basically it, except KCI might require a TM 47 (90 day report).
Forms Required (TM 7 and 47 can be filled in using work, the other 2 require pen and ink):
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If you plan to leave Thailand, you might want to get a re-entry permit when you get your new extension. I get the multiple re-entry permit just for the convenience.
You will need to have:
• TM 8 printed on both sides of a single sheet.
• Color Photo 4 x 6 cm (I already had mine attached to the TM 8 )
• Passport
• Copies of all used pages from your Passport. Sign each page.
• 1900 Baht for single re-entry, 3800 baht for a multiple re-entry.
TM 8 attached, can be filled in using word.
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Your learning. Next year you may get into the 3rd grad. mhihi
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When you get a new passport, immigration will need to transfer information prior to you getting a new extension. You will need to have:
• Thai Form to change to new passport (attached)
• Old Passport
• Copies of All used pages
• New Passport
• Copies of All used pages
There may be another requirement in having a letter from your GVT asking Thailand to change to the new passport. I had one and added to the package, KCI kept it.
This service is supposed to be free but KCI is charging 500 baht (no receipt provided). This happened to me but I was warned by my Brit buddy that they did it to him.
The Form is attached and can be filled in using word.
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Your learning. Next year you may get into the 3rd grad. mhihi
That was the hardest 4 years of my life.
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And lastly, if there are other dummies out there like me that need help, you are welcome to come to my internet shop and we'll put together the packet for you, make all the necessary copies (to include a 4x6 photo), and if you bring a memory card/stick, will save all the information for you.
Note that actual income verification is not a service we provide.
PM me to make an appointment.
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Thanks for number 3. I will need that. party4
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Keith, when you say " Proof of income. I have used both a bank statement and letter from Embassy, both worked. " did you mean you
used the "combination" method for your extension.
That is: Embassy letter XXXX Bht + Thai bank account statement (letter) = more than 800K Baht.
If that was the case, was the money in your Thai bank seasoned for 3 months?
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I did not word that clearly as I used a bank statement last year and this year I used a Embassy statement.
Verification of income may need a whole topic onto itself. I made a mistake of adding my TW to my bank, immigration then said we had to have 1.6 million baht in the bank. But I am transferring 800K baht to a my name only account.
And getting an income statement from the US Embassy is really easy, except for the $50 charge.
I have heard that you can combine both earning and bank statement, but I don't have that issue.
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Thanks Keith - a very useful source document.
Yes you can combine for a retirement extension.
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If you plan to leave Thailand, you might want to get a re-entry permit when you get your new extension. I get the multiple re-entry permit just for the convenience.
You will need to have:
• TM 8 printed on both sides of a single sheet.
• Color Photo 4 x 6 cm (I already had mine attached to the TM 8 )
• Passport
• Copies of all used pages from your Passport. Sign each page.
• 1900 Baht for single re-entry, 3800 baht for a multiple re-entry.
TM 8 attached, can be filled in using word.
Keith - Just for the sake of good order, TM8 is only one-sided.
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Keith - Just for the sake of good order, TM8 is only one-sided.
When you add Nookie's oversized picture it goes to 2 pages. But yes you are correct.
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THANKS Urleft this one gets bookmarked, printed, and into the BE brainbook!!
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When using the combination method the money does not need to be seasoned in your bank account for 3 months.
That is the law, but I have heard of a couple of offices interpreting it differently.
Maybe our budding reporter GL could check with KC when he next goes there. thumbup
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When using the combination method the money does not need to be seasoned in your bank account for 3 months.
That is the law, but I have heard of a couple of offices interpreting it differently.
Maybe our budding reporter GL could check with KC when he next goes there. thumbup
KC says 3 months seasoning on combo.
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When using the combination method the money does not need to be seasoned in your bank account for 3 months.
That is the law, but I have heard of a couple of offices interpreting it differently.
Maybe our budding reporter GL could check with KC when he next goes there. thumbup
KC says 3 months seasoning on combo.
This question about "seasoning" of money in the bank when using the combination method of extension often comes up on Thai Visa forum.
Besides Kapchoeng I believe that there are a few other Immigration offices that insist on the same.
Hua Hin and Nan (?) seem to ring a bell.
Despite the fact that Police order 777-2551 2.22 clearly states that In the case of Retirement (5) Must have an annual earning and funds deposited with a bank totaling no less than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date it appears some offices interpret the rules in their own way.
I do remember doing a retirement extension at Khorat some years ago using the combo method where the money in my Thai bank had been transferred 2 weeks prior without any problems.
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As I mentioned, income is a whole posting by itself.
From my limited standpoint, I want to ensure I have at least 800K baht in the bank. I view that as the requirement to live here. Yes there are ways to get around it, however the immigration stations can change how they view things just before you try to get an extension.
So I hope you have a plan, and a backup plan. My backup plan is the Embassy income statement.
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I’m starting a new topic so I can readily go back at reference the requirements.
I successfully obtained a new retirement extension from KCI on 6 Feb. I put together a packet and it was complete as I could have made it.
So if you are going for a retirement extension, have the following:
· TM 7, printed on a single sheet front and back. (attached)
· Color Photo 4 x 6 cm (I already had mine attached to the TM 7)
· Passport
· Copies of all used pages from your Passport. Sign each page.
· Copies of house book, sign each page. I also had the house book but the agent did not check it.
· Proof of income. I have used both a bank statement and letter from Embassy, both worked.
· Thai income form. (attached)
· Acknowledgement form (attached)
· 1900 baht.
Now if you are not leaving Thailand, this is basically it, except KCI might require a TM 47 (90 day report).
Forms Required (TM 7 and 47 can be filled in using work, the other 2 require pen and ink):
When I did mine In January I also had to provide a copy of my wife's ID card, signed by her and also a map showing the location of my house. They didn't ask for the Thai income form, but they did last year.
It just shows how variable the process can be....
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As I mentioned, income is a whole posting by itself.
From my limited standpoint, I want to ensure I have at least 800K baht in the bank. I view that as the requirement to live here. Yes there are ways to get around it, however the immigration stations can change how they view things just before you try to get an extension.
So I hope you have a plan, and a backup plan. My backup plan is the Embassy income statement.
Why waste the time ,effort & expense going to the Embassy when you don't need to??????
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As I mentioned, income is a whole posting by itself.
From my limited standpoint, I want to ensure I have at least 800K baht in the bank. I view that as the requirement to live here. Yes there are ways to get around it, however the immigration stations can change how they oview things just before you try to get an extension.
So I hope you have a plan, and a backup plan. My backup plan is the Embassy income statement.
Why waste the time ,effort & expense going to the Embassy when you don't need to??????
I was at the embassy anyway and there was a chance I would need to spend my bank money before I could replace it, so I got the embassy income statement just in case.
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As I mentioned, income is a whole posting by itself.
From my limited standpoint, I want to ensure I have at least 800K baht in the bank. I view that as the requirement to live here. Yes there are ways to get around it, however the immigration stations can change how they view things just before you try to get an extension.
So I hope you have a plan, and a backup plan. My backup plan is the Embassy income statement.
My backup plan is Cambodia.
If they don't want me here, I will go there.
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My backup plan is Cambodia.
If they don't want me here, I will go there.
What is really sad is that the reason I live here now is that the Fucking US GVT will not give my TW a visa, even just to visit. Now the GVT lets litterally millions cross the Mexican US Border Illegally (and will not deport them), but when a US Citizen tries to go things legally, they get fucked.
So while I have a lakefront home in Alabama and a very high paying job available, I am in Thailand because my GVT is stupid.
At the present time I don't see any issues with meeting any of Thailand "visa" requirements, so I will stay here. Thailand is a lot more reasonable than the US GVT.
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Does anyone know if Kapchoeng Immigration still require only 1 copy of original documents for retirement extensions?
Any recent experiences?
love5
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Yes. A gentleman did his yesterday 1 copy. Tomorrow its your guess.
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Yes. A gentleman did his yesterday 1 copy. Tomorrow its your guess.
Thanks GL party4
If all goes well next week, I'll stop in for coffee after I've been to KCI :)
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Question ??
Had another gentleman stop by and he is from Nong Ki. He did a 90 day report. I asked why not Korat and he said Korat told him he must report to KCI. Anyone else??
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Question ??
Had another gentleman stop by and he is from Nong Ki. He did a 90 day report. I asked why not Korat and he said Korat told him he must report to KCI. Anyone else??
Nong Ki is in Buriram = KCI
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Most people I know from Nong Ki go to Korat to do their 90 days ,,,,never have a problem...........YOU CAN DO YOUR 90 DAY REPORT AT ANY IMMIGRATION OFFICE IN THAILAND.
Nong Ki-Korat Immigration=57kms
Nong Ki-KCI=145kms
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Most people I know from Nong Ki go to Korat to do their 90 days ,,,,never have a problem...........YOU CAN DO YOUR 90 DAY REPORT AT ANY IMMIGRATION OFFICE IN THAILAND.
Nong Ki-Korat Immigration=57kms
Nong Ki-KCI=145kms
Any from the Buriram City area done this recently?
With the advent of the electronic passport scanning it seems reasonable, but TIT.
That would be a good option if the TW wants to shop in Korat as opposed to the Chom market.
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As for rules I go by Thai Immigration rules and polices which can and due change by region.
Thai Immigration says "Where do you do your 90-day reporting? -
It must be done at the immigration office that has jurisdiction over where you live.
That means, if you're in Bangkok you will need to go to the Chang Wattana immigration office, if you live in Chiang Mai the immigration office there will cover it."
We all know that Korat has given those in the extreme wester sections of Buriram permission to report to them every 90 days but when it comes to their extension they need to go to KCI. I totaly agree with this. Now back to my question..
Question ??
Had another gentleman stop by and he is from Nong Ki. He did a 90 day report. I asked why not Korat and he said Korat told him he must report to KCI. Anyone else??
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I agree with Nookiebear.
I'm on a retirement visa and have done my 90 day reports in Pattata,Surin,Korat and Nong Khai and have never had a problem.
I guess being smartly dressed and handsome must help cool1
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Thai Immigration says "Where do you do your 90-day reporting? - It must be done at the immigration office that has jurisdiction over where you live. That means, if you're in Bangkok you will need to go to the Chang Wattana immigration office, if you live in Chiang Mai the immigration office there will cover it."
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http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/672872-90-days-can-be-done-at-different-location/
I now have a Visa Agent in Pattaya do my 90 day reports for me.Costs 100 plus postage.No doubt I'm breaking the law and I will end up getting deported thumbup
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days
Procedure and notification
1 The foreigner makes the notification in person, or
2 The foreigner authorises another person to make the notification
3 The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail.
4 The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires.
5 The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.
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Admin, Thanks for the clean up. cheergirl cheergirl cheergirl
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Admin, Thanks for the clean up. cheergirl cheergirl cheergirl
Fair point Keith - I think most of yours went. :o
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Well Done Admin............well said COCO
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Update on using the Mulitple RE-RETRY PERMIT.
When you are inbound to Thailand, they give an immigration card. The arrival portion has a "Visa Number" field.
Here is it in pictures:
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I have a question that's a bit interesting.. My wife is Thai but she is also an American citizen and came here on a US passport and an O-A Visa the same as me.. We both do our 90 day reports and her sister is the one who vouches for both of us. Our visas are multiple entry (unlimited).. There is no Thai income because all of our income comes from pensions that both of us have. So I would assume there is no Thai income letter required. What is the cost of a multi entry extension? and the importance of the Enter no later than date on the visa, especially when it relates to extending and obtaining a multiple entry extension..
Second question.. We just got back from Udon met a couple with the same situation that we have.. His wife is also an American citizen and is here and continued to be here under an O-A visa. She also has a current Thai ID and because she is still recognized as a Thai citizen she doesn't require any seasoning money at all.. If you could find out about that one it could be very useful to some folks here. This lady has both a Thai ID and an American passport with a current O-A visa extension.. When she travels she does so on her American passport. For most of us that would be talking to KCI and finding out how they read this and could this be done here.. Help GL??? For all we know this may be something that's only done in Udon where they report in..
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"I have a question that's a bit interesting.. My wife is Thai but she is also an American citizen and came here on a US passport and an O-A Visa the same as me.. We both do our 90 day reports and her sister is the one who vouches for both of us. Our visas are multiple entry (unlimited).. There is no Thai income because all of our income comes from pensions that both of us have. So I would assume there is no Thai income letter required. What is the cost of a multi entry extension? and the importance of the Enter no later than date on the visa, especially when it relates to extending and obtaining a multiple entry extension.. "
1. Thai income if any has nothing to do with your OA.
2. Single reentry permit is 1000 baht. Multi reentry permit is 3800 baht.
3." Enter by" date is the last day you can enter Thailand and activate your visa. In your case you have to leave and reenter by that date to get your second part of your OA.
4.You are not getting a multiple entry extension.
5. On your second part as I detailed to you by pm when you re enter Thailand you go directly to KCI and for 3800 baht you get a multiple reentry permit which protects your 2 nd part of your OA when you leave Thailand.
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Second question.. We just got back from Udon met a couple with the same situation that we have.. His wife is also an American citizen and is here and continued to be here under an O-A visa. She also has a current Thai ID and because she is still recognized as a Thai citizen she doesn't require any seasoning money at all.. If you could find out about that one it could be very useful to some folks here. This lady has both a Thai ID and an American passport with a current O-A visa extension.. When she travels she does so on her American passport. For most of us that would be talking to KCI and finding out how they read this and could this be done here.. Help GL??? For all we know this may be something that's only done in Udon where they report in..
As a Thai citizen she can do this (no moneyrequired) but must apply every year for this extension at KCI. It is available but what your wife has gone threw to reestablish her Thai Citizenship I see no point. She is a Thai Citizen and an American Citizen. Pon would have been illegible for this if she could have proven her Thai Citizenship when she started the process last year. Where this comes into play is when the T/W forgets her Thai passport and uses her US PP to enter Thailand at which point the US PP gets the blunt as an overstay and is subject to fine, 500 baht per day up to 20,000 baht.
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GL, I think you mistyped, a single entry permit is 1900 baht, not 1000 baht:
According to the immigration Bureau,
Non-quota immigrant visa outside the annual quota for immigrants admitted to the Kingdom:
Single entry: 1,900.- Baht
Multiple entries within 1 year: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee
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GL, I think you mistyped, a single entry permit is 1900 baht, not 1000 baht:
According to the immigration Bureau,
Non-quota immigrant visa outside the annual quota for immigrants admitted to the Kingdom:
Single entry: 1,900.- Baht
Multiple entries within 1 year: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee
Shucks looking for a discount. Ur correct. On me buttslap
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GL, I think you mistyped, a single entry permit is 1900 baht, not 1000 baht:
According to the immigration Bureau,
Non-quota immigrant visa outside the annual quota for immigrants admitted to the Kingdom:
Single entry: 1,900.- Baht
Multiple entries within 1 year: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee)
Shucks looking for a discount. Ur correct. On me buttslap
No, GL You were correct. love6
I was reading the wrong line, I should have kept going down the page:
Application for re-entry permit
Single entry: 1,000.- Baht
Multiple entries within remaining period of admission: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee)
Also TM 8 says 1000 Baht.
My bad. buttslap buttslap buttslap
Kind of goes with my philosophy of life that I learned more from my mistakes than doing things right. However, in that vein I should be a Fcuking genius know it all by now. (kind of like Nookie who is without the genius).
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Beat me to it by 30 secs. Posted this message and got the warning " a new post has been made. Would you like to check before posting........
"I think you will find that the phrase "single entry permit" refers to the visa or extension itself.
If the OP is on an OA he has a year stamp, right? So if he wishes to leave and come back then he needs a Re entry permit.
A single entry "re entry" permit , for those on an existing visa or extension of stay, is only 1000 baht."
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/re-entry-permit-thailand.php"
You the man Urleft. Whoop whoop bravo1 bananadance redman
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GL, I think you mistyped, a single entry permit is 1900 baht, not 1000 baht:
According to the immigration Bureau,
Non-quota immigrant visa outside the annual quota for immigrants admitted to the Kingdom:
Single entry: 1,900.- Baht
Multiple entries within 1 year: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee)
Shucks looking for a discount. Ur correct. On me buttslap
No, GL You were correct. love6
I was reading the wrong line, I should have kept going down the page:
Application for re-entry permit
Single entry: 1,000.- Baht
Multiple entries within remaining period of admission: 3,800.- Baht
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=fee)
Also TM 8 says 1000 Baht.
My bad. buttslap buttslap buttslap
Kind of goes with my philosophy of life that I learned more from my mistakes than doing things right. However, in that vein I should be a Fcuking genius know it all by now. (kind of like Nookie who is without the genius).
Had a brain x myslef. 1000 baht fora single entry permit. END OF..
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Beat me to it by 30 secs. Posted this message and got the warning " a new post has been made. Would you like to check before posting........
"I think you will find that the phrase "single entry permit" refers to the visa or extension itself.
If the OP is on an OA he has a year stamp, right? So if he wishes to leave and come back then he needs a Re entry permit.
A single entry "re entry" permit , for those on an existing visa or extension of stay, is only 1000 baht."
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/re-entry-permit-thailand.php"
You the man Urleft. Whoop whoop bravo1 bananadance redman
When the op goes over to his second part of his OA that part does not have a built end re entry permit only the first year. If he wants to exit Thailand and protect that 2nd part he needs to purchase either a single entry,1000 baht or a multi re entry permit, 3800 baht.
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Beat me to it by 30 secs. Posted this message and got the warning " a new post has been made. Would you like to check before posting........
"I think you will find that the phrase "single entry permit" refers to the visa or extension itself.
If the OP is on an OA he has a year stamp, right? So if he wishes to leave and come back then he needs a Re entry permit.
A single entry "re entry" permit , for those on an existing visa or extension of stay, is only 1000 baht."
http://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/re-entry-permit-thailand.php"
You the man Urleft. Whoop whoop bravo1 bananadance redman
Thanks for the Whoop Starman.
However, what this highlights is the complexities of "visa" process. What I was trying to do in this thread was capture the steps for the average Joe, and have an archived place I could refer for when my computer goes tango uniform and I lose a lot of my data (just happended on 13 May).
When you deal with GVT's not only are there exceptions to everything, but there are impacted cases hidden from us "normal" people.
Like with Voodoo, who would have thought that a Thai citizen's docs would be lost and she has to act like an expat instead of Thai Born person.
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When you get a new passport, immigration will need to transfer information prior to you getting a new extension. You will need to have:
• Thai Form to change to new passport (attached)
• Old Passport
• Copies of All used pages
• New Passport
• Copies of All used pages
There may be another requirement in having a letter from your GVT asking Thailand to change to the new passport. I had one and added to the package, KCI kept it.
This service is supposed to be free but KCI is charging 500 baht (no receipt provided). This happened to me but I was warned by my Brit buddy that they did it to him.
The Form is attached and can be filled in using word.
Well what should have been obvious to me was not. If you get a new passport, you need a new Thai translation.
Finally hit me today as I am putting together a yellow book packet that my passport translation was for my old passport, not the new one.
Yea, dumbass me, but something to think about when you get a new passport.
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When you get a new passport, immigration will need to transfer information prior to you getting a new extension. You will need to have:
• Thai Form to change to new passport (attached)
• Old Passport
• Copies of All used pages
• New Passport
• Copies of All used pages
There may be another requirement in having a letter from your GVT asking Thailand to change to the new passport. I had one and added to the package, KCI kept it.
This service is supposed to be free but KCI is charging 500 baht (no receipt provided). This happened to me but I was warned by my Brit buddy that they did it to him.
The Form is attached and can be filled in using word.
Well what should have been obvious to me was not. If you get a new passport, you need a new Thai translation.
Finally hit me today as I am putting together a yellow book packet that my passport translation was for my old passport, not the new one.
Yea, dumbass me, but something to think about when you get a new passport.
Depends on the amphur, my amphur no.
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This morning I had the pleasure of spending an hour or so with Keith (Urleft) whilst he assisted me with the preparation of all the correct documents for my first retirement visa application. Not only is Keith a nice guy, je is also very organised and metticulos with the detail. Although the process is not that complicated it felt a little daunting to me being the first application. I now have a full pack ready to go and all correct docs saved to my flash drive for future use.
Keith, Excellent service, thank you. I'm sure others in a similar position would benefit from paying you a visit.
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This morning I had the pleasure of spending an hour or so with Keith (Urleft) whilst he assisted me with the preparation of all the correct documents for my first retirement visa application. Not only is Keith a nice guy, je is also very organised and metticulos with the detail. Although the process is not that complicated it felt a little daunting to me being the first application. I now have a full pack ready to go and all correct docs saved to my flash drive for future use.
Keith, Excellent service, thank you. I'm sure others in a similar position would benefit from paying you a visit.
If there was a "like" button, I would apply it to this post.
This is what the Farang community should be about.
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This morning I had the pleasure of spending an hour or so with Keith (Urleft) whilst he assisted me with the preparation of all the correct documents for my first retirement visa application. Not only is Keith a nice guy, je is also very organised and metticulos with the detail. Although the process is not that complicated it felt a little daunting to me being the first application. I now have a full pack ready to go and all correct docs saved to my flash drive for future use.
Keith, Excellent service, thank you. I'm sure others in a similar position would benefit from paying you a visit.
Glad to help.
But I want to be upfront to others that may want my help:
1. I am not a visa service, never claim to be. However, Freddy left with digital completed copies of the forms, next year should be a lot easier as just updates should be required.
2. I did charge him, but it was for printing, copying , scanning, computer time, etc, basically the services of my internet shop with top notch equipment. Very minimal IMHO, easily less than 500 baht.
3. You can come in with completed forms for copying and printing, and get charged a lot less, one expat left with his package and less than 50 baht service fee.
And Freddy can tell, I essentially followed posts 1 and 2 here.
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BTW, I know of at least 2 expats that use a visa service for their retirement extensions. They pay over 10,000 Baht (plus the Thailand fees) to have it done, and have been paying this yearly.
Now if you just have lots of money, probably worth the baht to save the hassle. But the Retirement Exension is not that complicated, recommend you do it yourself, provided you can meet the income requirements.
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I know quite a few who do not have the required funds & hence use 'an Agent' to obtain their extension renewals,cost has recently risen to 11,200 baht.
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I took a friend to renew his extension based on retirement to immigration yesterday and there has been a major addition to the documentation required.If you are using the 65K income route they now require, note REQUIRE, not request, in addition to a certified affidavid/statement of earnings from your embassy a bank statement or a copy of a Thai bank book showing that you have transfered/withdrawn sufficient funds to support yourself over the preceding 3 months prior to the date of your application.They justify this requirement by stating that "there are a lot of fake or forged embassy letters being produced, we need to be sure you are bringing funds into the coumtry".Several people were refused extensions yesterday with the simple phrase of "No bank statement, no extension, go away and get one"I was also informed this also applies to those using the income route for marriage extensions.
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I took a friend to renew his extension based on retirement to immigration yesterday and there has been a major addition to the documentation required.If you are using the 65K income route they now require, note REQUIRE, not request, in addition to a certified affidavid/statement of earnings from your embassy a bank statement or a copy of a Thai bank book showing that you have transfered/withdrawn sufficient funds to support yourself over the preceding 3 months prior to the date of your application.They justify this requirement by stating that "there are a lot of fake or forged embassy letters being produced, we need to be sure you are bringing funds into the coumtry".Several people were refused extensions yesterday with the simple phrase of "No bank statement, no extension, go away and get one"I was also informed this also applies to those using the income route for marriage extensions.
Immigration has always had the right to ask for other documentation of income. This request/ requirement is not surprising.
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I took a friend to renew his extension based on retirement to immigration yesterday and there has been a major addition to the documentation required.If you are using the 65K income route they now require, note REQUIRE, not request, in addition to a certified affidavid/statement of earnings from your embassy a bank statement or a copy of a Thai bank book showing that you have transfered/withdrawn sufficient funds to support yourself over the preceding 3 months prior to the date of your application.They justify this requirement by stating that "there are a lot of fake or forged embassy letters being produced, we need to be sure you are bringing funds into the coumtry".Several people were refused extensions yesterday with the simple phrase of "No bank statement, no extension, go away and get one"I was also informed this also applies to those using the income route for marriage extensions.
I think it is unnecessary and inappropriate as not everyone's income passes through a Thai bank account.
The income has been proved and certified and they can check with the embassy. Asking for more information about that income is valid - asking to see a Thai bank book does not necessarily give the full picture.
Immigration has always had the right to ask for other documentation of income. This request/ requirement is not surprising.
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They are not asking to see the full amount pass through a bank account either Thai or Farang, my friend simply printed out foreign atm withdrawals from his Norwegian Bank account.
They appeared more than happy with that info, extension issued, then beer of course.
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I've obtained income statements from the US Embassy twice, neither time did I have to prove what I wrote as my income. The embassy just validated what I wrote. However, the validation cost $50 and is a seal, not just a stamp, cannot easily be counterfeited.
However, I know of an instance where a Brit used another Brit's embassy income statement and just photoshopped in his name. This was accepted by immigration.
So I can see why they want some backup data. Also note as Nookie said that expats use agents to get around the income requirements.
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Two guys last week, one Brit and one Aussie, refused extensions based on retirement. Both were using income method. Both had correct documents from home country embassies.
The reason given was that immigration believed them to be fake documents. Money was mentioned as was an immigration office near to the seaside.
Looks like the cat is out of the bag.
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I would like to hear from any yanks that recently used a US income statement certified by the embassy for an extension.
I would doubt that would be easily forged.
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The documents were not forged. The immigration official decided that they were.
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The documents were not forged. The immigration official decided that they were.
Which goes in line with my earlier comment that a Brit income statement can easily be forged. The stamp as I remember seeing is black, and no imprint on the paper.
Which is why I am wondering how KCI treats US Embassy certifications?
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Starman
Did they not have a official receipt from their respective Embassies that they could have shown?
Were they not asked (like previously posted) to show bank passbooks to show funds coming into the country?
Seems the "new crew" are playing hardball :-X
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As I said before Somnat, but some people seem to pick holes in, they had all the correct documentation.
The feeling seemed to be towards things that go on at other places, namely by the sea.
There was a sense of "it can be done for the right price". Nothing to do with the standard of the documents.
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Went to KCI this morning. All went smoothly and first retirement extension granted. Thank you Keith (Urleft) Pack was excellent. The only thing that appears to have been added is a further declaration form that states you understand the consequences, penalties for overstaying a visa.
I also applied for a multiple re-entry permit. Initially I was told that this could not be issued until my first 90 day report ( I was told in advance that this may be the case). However, at some point whilst processing the retirement visa this changed and multiple re-entry was issued today also.
Service was overall very good and friendly. Arrived at about 0845 and was glad I did. I was the 2nd customer and by the time I was all done (about 40 mins) the waiting area and entrance lobby were full.
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Went to KCI this morning. All went smoothly and first retirement extension granted. Thank you Keith (Urleft) Pack was excellent. The only thing that appears to have been added is a further declaration form that states you understand the consequences, penalties for overstaying a visa.
I also applied for a multiple re-entry permit. Initially I was told that this could not be issued until my first 90 day report ( I was told in advance that this may be the case). However, at some point whilst processing the retirement visa this changed and multiple re-entry was issued today also.
Service was overall very good and friendly. Arrived at about 0845 and was glad I did. I was the 2nd customer and by the time I was all done (about 40 mins) the waiting area and entrance lobby were full.
Wow, 40 minutes for a 1st time extension (or renewal extension) is lightning fast. Glad it worked for you. congrats
GL, can you get a copy of that declaration, scan and post for us? I checked the immigration docs on-line and didn't see it.
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Went to KCI this morning. All went smoothly and first retirement extension granted. Thank you Keith (Urleft) Pack was excellent. The only thing that appears to have been added is a further declaration form that states you understand the consequences, penalties for overstaying a visa.
I also applied for a multiple re-entry permit. Initially I was told that this could not be issued until my first 90 day report ( I was told in advance that this may be the case). However, at some point whilst processing the retirement visa this changed and multiple re-entry was issued today also.
Service was overall very good and friendly. Arrived at about 0845 and was glad I did. I was the 2nd customer and by the time I was all done (about 40 mins) the waiting area and entrance lobby were full.
Wow, 40 minutes for a 1st time extension (or renewal extension) is lightning fast. Glad it worked for you. congrats
GL, can you get a copy of that declaration, scan and post for us? I checked the immigration docs on-line and didn't see it.
For KC that is fast but lighting fast? i remember 20 minutes. You will not find that document your asking for on line as it changes from I/O to I/O.
Freddy What was your income based on bank letter or income declaration from embassey?
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For KC that is fast but lighting fast? i remember 20 minutes. You will not find that document your asking for on line as it changes from I/O to I/O.
Freddy What was your income based on bank letter or income declaration from embassey?
When I did my first renewal it took an hour at KCI. So 40 minutes for a first time retirement extention is lightning fast:
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,6415.msg38827.html#msg38827
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For KC that is fast but lighting fast? i remember 20 minutes. You will not find that document your asking for on line as it changes from I/O to I/O.
Freddy What was your income based on bank letter or income declaration from embassey?
When I did my first renewal it took an hour at KCI. So 40 minutes for a first time retirement extention is lightning fast:
Grease the ::).
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,6415.msg38827.html#msg38827
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GL - income based on bank letter. I'm glad that I'm fortunate enough to be able to go this route and to confirm previousosts. Money had seasoned for 67 days so KCI seem to be consistently applying the 60 day rule for first time extension (90 thereafter).
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GL - income based on bank letter. I'm glad that I'm fortunate enough to be able to go this route and to confirm previousosts. Money had seasoned for 67 days so KCI seem to be consistently applying the 60 day rule for first time extension (90 thereafter).
Thanks.
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Did my 90 day report today, arrived at 10-20 am was out door 10-28 am,
then myself and g/f, had an excellent breakfast at M. D.Coffee. Thanks bananadance
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Did my 90 day report today, arrived at 10-20 am was out door 10-28 am,
then myself and g/f, had an excellent breakfast at M. D.Coffee. Thanks bananadance
Any time. More than welcome. wave1
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Last week (19th December) I extended my visa for another year at KCI (based on retirement). I had obtained a letter from the British Embassy to confirm my monthly/annual income. I also obtained a bank statement for the year from the Bangkok Bank at a cost of 200 THB (3 to 4 working days). The 'big boss' at KCI personally processed my application.
When she saw the bank statement she asked, "How did you know we require the bank statement? It's a relatively new requirement and some people have been upset when we have refused their application because they could not produce a bank statement or a copy of their bank book." So, there you have it, from the head immigration officer at KCI in person. If you are extending your visa based on a letter from from the British Embassy (or, I suspect, a Statutory Declaration from another embassy) KCI also require a bank statement for the year or a copy of your up-to-date bank book.
My application to extend my visa for another year was approved quickly and without any problems.
Footnote: 'Urleft' stated earlier that "The stamp (on the letter from British Embassy) as I remember seeing is black, and no imprint on the paper." For the sake of clarity, I can confirm that the stamp on the letter from the British Embassy is not an ink stamp. It is an imprint of the Embassy Crest - without ink.
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This confirms an observation I made when I did my marriage extension on 11 December. There was an English guy trying to get a retirement extension and he was rejected because he didn't have the bank statements to back up his embassy income letter.
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This confirms an observation I made when I did my marriage extension on 11 December. There was an English guy trying to get a retirement extension and he was rejected because he didn't have the bank statements to back up his embassy income letter.
I'm seeing more reports from other immigration offices of this becoming standard.
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This should be fun. I planned on getting my yearly extension in the next 2 weeks but my TW told me to do it tomorrow as she wants us to go on holiday.
So I went to posts 1 and 2 as a guide, took my saved files and modified them, then off to Bangkok Bank for a letter. Was back home by 2 pm and package complete. Now just need to see what curve balls KCI will give me. Will provide an AAR (after action review).
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This should be fun. I planned on getting my yearly extension in the next 2 weeks but my TW told me to do it tomorrow as she wants us to go on holiday.
So I went to posts 1 and 2 as a guide, took my saved files and modified them, then off to Bangkok Bank for a letter. Was back home by 2 pm and package complete. Now just need to see what curve balls KCI will give me. Will provide an AAR (after action review).
Now we all know for certain who is the boss in your household!!!!
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When was it ever in doubt?
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When was it ever in doubt?
To me it wasn't but to people that don't know you it was an unknown !!
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When was it ever in doubt?
To me it wasn't but to people that don't know you it was an unknown !!
They must live a sad and boring existance if they care/watch what I do.
For me life is great, I have 4 women catering to me and my angel brings a smile to me everyday.
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Today was very frustrating, a lot was my own fault, but live and learn.
1. I got a letter from Bangkok bank and they updated my bank book, the last transaction was in December. However, the letter explictly stated that I had that balance on 27 Jan. Not acceptable, I had to go to Bangkok Bank (basically across the main road from KCI) and get my passbook updated, very easy, just used the update machine at express banking.
2. The agent was satisfied with that, stamped the new extension in my book and took the 1900 baht. Then he did one last check of the paperwork. He noticed that I did not have the money "seasoned" for 90 days, only 85. He then said (even though my passport was already stamped with the new extension) they could not give me one. I even showed him where the money was in a separate account at BB and transferred. Did no good, Ended up having the extension cancelled and they refunded my 1900 baht.
3. My actual extension ends 14 Feb, but my 90 day was due 1 Feb. So had them do a 90 day and will return before 14 Feb. Agent said I would be charged 500 baht a day for each day late past the 14th (Sunday).
4. I have blank copies of 2 new forms, I will scan and attach them in the next day or so, updating the paperwork requirements for KCI.
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Don't you have a service that helps others.? Tut Tut character3
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Don't you have a service that helps others.? Tut Tut character3
I am not and never claimed to be a visa service (stated that several times in this thread). What I have is an internet shop with top notch printers and copiers that can help put together the package. What I am trying to do is capture the documents required such that members here can put together the package themselves (to include me). Everytime I renew I capture the steps required as things change.
In this past episode I obtained 2 new forms:
1. Penalty form, acknowledging overstay penalties.
2. Stay Application form, this form replaces the Form_acknow_con2stay.doc provided in post #1. However, that old form is still on the Thailand Documents Online: http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download)
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Don't you have a service that helps others.? Tut Tut character3
I am not and never claimed to be a visa service (stated that several times in this thread). What I have is an internet shop with top notch printers and copiers that can help put together the package. What I am trying to do is capture the documents required such that members here can put together the package themselves (to include me). Everytime I renew I capture the steps required as things change.
In this past episode I obtained 2 new forms:
1. Penalty form, acknowledging overstay penalties.
2. Stay Application form, this form replaces the Form_acknow_con2stay.doc provided in post #1. However, that old form is still on the Thailand Documents Online: http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download)
Keep up the good work. party4 Speaking of which..
I have been on the phone with KCI over the past 2 hours. No body in KCI can speak english. I was finally contacted by an I/O from Nan Immigration on a three way conference call. In short I'm 98% sure you can do your extension 45 days early so you should have no problem with your 90 day report. As for 90 day mail in reports by post I'm getting a YES and a NO. Who the FCUK knows. screwy
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Despite the Curmudgeons on this forum I will continue to try to provide the retirement extension requirements.
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Despite the Curmudgeons on this forum I will continue to try to provide the retirement extension requirements.
Just keep the Fritos in stock. party15
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Despite the Curmudgeons on this forum I will continue to try to provide the retirement extension requirements.
So you do provide a service? There was no mention of "visa service" other than from you.
If you look clearly at Toffo's post he did also use the fishing smiley.
Looks like you are the catch of the day.
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I've just fell off the chair..........can't see for crying..............Just why is it that Yanks seem to think there is one rule for them & another for everyone else!!!
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Just had an Expat here to print forms for KCI, fleeced him out of 6 baht.
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Just had an Expat here to print forms for KCI, fleeced him out of 6 baht.
Extortion.. :D
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Just had an Expat here to print forms for KCI, fleeced him out of 6 baht.
Extortion.. :D
Yes I milked him for all it was worth. He then said he would be back next year with extra work.
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I am working at updates to the package but before I post I need to do some resizing to try to have all attachments on one post.
However, if you are going for an extension, take a signed copy of your Thai Significant other's ID. I saw an expat refused service for not having that, he had to call his TG and get her to fax a signed copy, took him 2 hours to get it.
And better yet, I recommend you take your TG with you, the agents prefer for talk to them.
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^^^^^ similar thing happened first thing this morning.
Unfortunate chap had everything including rent receipts and a letter from his landlady.
Even after a call to her (from the IO) he had to go and get copies of her ID card and Tabien ban.
Both have to be signed and dating them is a good idea.
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Are you still talking about retirement extensions? Why would you need a copy of your partner's ID? What if you don't have a partner?
Not sure that immigration officials prefer to speak to expats wives of girlfriends but more likely prefer to speak Thai.
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Are you still talking about retirement extensions? Why would you need a copy of your partner's ID? What if you don't have a partner?
Not sure that immigration officials prefer to speak to expats wives of girlfriends but more likely prefer to speak Thai.
That is all perfectly true Starman, but the fact remains that the IO's seem to gain a degree of comfort by having your partner sign a copy of their ID.
TOTALLY unnecessary for a retirement extension.
I agree that going alone, and speaking Thai, gives a sense of independence; but I cannot speak Thai fluently and have found that taking the missus gives me a degree of comfort. She is also useful in getting passport pages copied so I can complete the multiple re-entry application.
I experienced the same situation with Bangkok Bank. They have an excellent website and I printed out, and completed, the appropriate account opening forms. No good! the BKB employee insisted on writing out her own Thai language version of the form and got Jip to sign a copy of her ID.
It is like the IO's and bank clerks see some form of 'guarantee' in the signed copy of ID.
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Are you still talking about retirement extensions? Why would you need a copy of your partner's ID? What if you don't have a partner?
Not sure that immigration officials prefer to speak to expats wives of girlfriends but more likely prefer to speak Thai.
That is all perfectly true Starman, but the fact remains that the IO's seem to gain a degree of comfort by having your partner sign a copy of their ID.
TOTALLY unnecessary for a retirement extension.
I agree that going alone, and speaking Thai, gives a sense of independence; but I cannot speak Thai fluently and have found that taking the missus gives me a degree of comfort. She is also useful in getting passport pages copied so I can complete the multiple re-entry application.
I experienced the same situation with Bangkok Bank. They have an excellent website and I printed out, and completed, the appropriate account opening forms. No good! the BKB employee insisted on writing out her own Thai language version of the form and got Jip to sign a copy of her ID.
It is like the IO's and bank clerks see some form of 'guarantee' in the signed copy of ID.
If my girlfriend had a wife, the last thing I'd be worrying about is an Immigration Officers! :D runningdog
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Just to clarify my previous post ............
Retirement extension at Kapchoeng.
Married applicant staying / living with wife:
A copy of your wife's Thai ID card, both sides, signed and dated.
A copy of your wife's Blue book / House book / Tabien Baan (call it what you will) showing the information page and her details, signed and dated.
Single applicant:
Copies of House masters (the owner of the property where you are residing) ID and Tabien baan as above.
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This ID card copy has just started, and if you read the KCI Retirement instructions it states:
Immigration officials reserve the right to request additional documents if considered necessary.
Obviously they now consider the ID card necessary.
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This ID card copy has just started, and if you read the KCI Retirement instructions it states:
Immigration officials reserve the right to request additional documents if considered necessary.
Obviously they now consider the ID card necessary.
They considered it necessary last June Keith.
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It seems to be that the documentation requirements are not only set by the immigration office you go to but also by the immigration officer you get when you go there.. My wife and I have made it as simple as possible for us.. We now have a book/binder with all the original documents and multiple copies of each in that book.. This way if they ask we can produce it for them.. We take the book with us each time we go there.. If there's any new forms or documentation that they ask for we add it to the book.. So far that's worked out.. Again it all depends who you wind up sitting down in front of and dealing with.. A suggestion is that you have your GF or house master with you and that the copies of the documents are signed there, in front of them.. Had a neighbor who had to produce his wife, in person.. Excuse was that they wanted to make sure she was alive and really existed..
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This ID card copy has just started, and if you read the KCI Retirement instructions it states:
Immigration officials reserve the right to request additional documents if considered necessary.
Obviously they now consider the ID card necessary.
They considered it necessary last June Keith.
That may be so, but no one bothered to add that information to this thread so I was not aware of that new requirement.
Someone did post that he had to provide a copy, but he did not state it was now a KCI requirement.
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Urleft..Buriram Expats, whilst being an informative and often fun forum, is not the centre of all things Retirement visa. There are many other places where information can be found. I would not rely on one single local forum for visa information.
Somnat... From your post it seems that the Thai ID card is being used more as a proof of residence.
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Urleft..Buriram Expats, whilst being an informative and often fun forum, is not the centre of all things Retirement visa. There are many other places where information can be found. I would not rely on one single local forum for visa information.
Somnat... From your post it seems that the Thai ID card is being used more as a proof of residence.
Despite providing suitable correspondence I got the impression that proof of residence was easier to achieve by taking the ID copy.
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Urleft..Buriram Expats, whilst being an informative and often fun forum, is not the centre of all things Retirement visa. There are many other places where information can be found. I would not rely on one single local forum for visa information.
Somnat... From your post it seems that the Thai ID card is being used more as a proof of residence.
Correct Starman, that's exactly what its about.
Apologies for not making that clear before love5
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Thanks Somnat.
Would it be impossible to get an extension of stay based on retirement if you were consistently on the move and only ever stayed in hotels?
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^^^^ A good question, deserving a correct answer that I am unable to give.
Considering that 90 day reports now have to be made at the IO where you do your extension ....
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/797957-the-90-day-enigma/
I imagine it would be a pain in the arse.
Although, if this takes off ....
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/798992-90-day-report-by-internet/
It would make life a bit easier.
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Urleft..Buriram Expats, whilst being an informative and often fun forum, is not the centre of all things Retirement visa. There are many other places where information can be found. I would not rely on one single local forum for visa information.
Somnat... From your post it seems that the Thai ID card is being used more as a proof of residence.
OK Starman,
Provide a link to a single post that is as comprehensive as my post #1 to include the attachments, especially with respect to KCI which is BE's center for the retirement visa.
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My point is that it is not comprehensive now.
You said that you did not know the ID card was a requirement because "no one could be bothered to post it here", although someone did in February 2014.
KCI is not BE's centre for the Retirement visa. It is the centre for expats living, and registered as living in Buriram and Surin. There is a plethora of expats living in these two provinces. Many of those do not read BE. Where do they get there info from?
I am as keen as the next man for all expats to have a smooth time at immigration. When I try to point something out you fly off the handle.
I also have expats turning up at my house for advise and assistance. Usually they need a passport or some other document translated into Thai and copies made. A service that I provide and have been providing for a couple of years now. I am always there to help and do not expect someone to get shirty when I try to point out a discrepancy.
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I applaud the efforts of Urleft and others.
However I humbly suggest that there can never be a comprehensive package or guide.
The system is flawed because it has nothing to do with controlling or monitoring foreigners; it is merely a method to provide employment for a section of Thai society which has been educated just a little better than the average car park attendant.
They are proud of their rubber stamps, fine uniforms and power. But their wages are low and naturally they are envious of the sums of money we Farangs must show in income or savings.
A small top up of salary is made by their various tea money scams, but the real incentive is of course, medals and shiny badges.
Next time you visit KCI take a look at the multitude of medal ribbons, Paratroopers Wings, Combat Infantryman's badges etc., the buffoon across the desk is wearing. Do you think he earned them fighting terrorists in the south or catching infiltrators from Cambodia?
Not at all; they are for Farang baiting.
They have a system like the old green shield stamps and books.
So many stamps for keeping a bloke waiting while you drink tea, chat with your mates or fiddle with your iphone, so many for sending a bloke to get his bank book updated because there is a 10 Baht discrepancy between that and his bank letter, etc., etc, once the stamp book is full - bingo - a new medal or badge.
Promotions are earned by devising something which will affect whole groups of farangs rather than individuals.
An example is the latest from Kap Choeng.
The proof of income letter from your embassy which was accepted in lieu of a bank deposit is no longer good enough. You now need to show your bank book to demonstrate that the income shown in the letter has been transferred to and spent in Thailand.
The guy who thought this one up is going places, especially if it goes nationwide!
Getting mad does no good as we all know.
I just sit back and accept it all with a smile, content in the knowledge that I have a bigger income, bigger bank balance, a better house, a younger wife and a better car than the chap sitting there with all his rubber stamps, shiny badges and medals.
Tomorrow he'll be doing the same shit, while I'll probably be playing golf..............
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If there was a "like" button, Dimple Joe would have got one for that post.
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My point is that it is not comprehensive now.
You said that you did not know the ID card was a requirement because "no one could be bothered to post it here", although someone did in February 2014.
KCI is not BE's centre for the Retirement visa. It is the centre for expats living, and registered as living in Buriram and Surin. There is a plethora of expats living in these two provinces. Many of those do not read BE. Where do they get there info from?
I am as keen as the next man for all expats to have a smooth time at immigration. When I try to point something out you fly off the handle.
I also have expats turning up at my house for advise and assistance. Usually they need a passport or some other document translated into Thai and copies made. A service that I provide and have been providing for a couple of years now. I am always there to help and do not expect someone to get shirty when I try to point out a discrepancy.
Starman,
I was ignoring you until you decided to interject yourself.
And I have to laugh at flying off the handle, this is you when I pointed out a technicallity:
Reading between the lines, and posts that he made on other forums, it would be obvious to those to whom the post matters.
It was very obvious to the person I was responding what was meant by visa.
Funny how you can critize but then can't take it. That is called a hypocrite.
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Apology accepted.
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If there was a "like" button, Dimple Joe would have got one for that post.
Likewise if there was a +1 button.
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Me too, good post DJ
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You said that you did not know the ID card was a requirement because "no one could be bothered to post it here", although someone did in February 2014.
Seems you have a comprehension issue, what the person said was:
When I did mine In January I also had to provide a copy of my wife's ID card, signed by her and also a map showing the location of my house. They didn't ask for the Thai income form, but they did last year.
I did my extension after him in Feb, I was not required to provide the ID. Therefore by my recorded experience it was not a requirement in Feb 2014.
Try to get the facts straight.
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Thanks for yet another play back, Urleft.
Problem is that your apparent disdain for me appears to be clouding your judgement.
You quite clearly stated, very recently, that the requirement for copy of ID card was a new rule. BE member CoCo pointed out that it had been in since June 2014.
You then said " no body bothered to post it on here".
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I pointed out that someone had. Your post was recent and nothing to do with your last extension.
Fact.
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Thanks for yet another play back, Urleft.
Problem is that your apparent disdain for me appears to be clouding your judgement.
You quite clearly stated, very recently, that the requirement for copy of ID card was a new rule. BE member CoCo pointed out that it had been in since June 2014.
You then said " no body bothered to post it on here".
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I pointed out that someone had. Your post was recent and nothing to do with your last extension.
Fact.
You make me laugh Starman, have too much Archa tonight? Quote exactly where someone stated when KCI was requiring EXPATS to provide a copies of significant other's ID prior to Feb 2014.
That one person had to provide it in January but others were not required in Feb means it was not a firm KCI requirement. A single case does not make it a requirement. But obviousliy logic and comprehension are not your strong areas.
My post this January was the 1st stating it was now a KCI requirement. I personally do not really care why they want something, I just want it identified to get through the process.
As far as my distain for you, it revolves around 4 areas, how you provide nit pick with BS comments (e.g., extension of stay instead of Visa in the shout box), and then when nit picked back you become a hypocrite and say it should have been obvious, then how you after the fact tell someone what is right, and lastly how you with all your knowledge, experience, and Thai Language capability you do not put forth a "Marriage Exention For Dummies" to help Expats. Obviously being pro active to help Expats is not a goal for you, much better when you can say "I could have told you that."
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I'm not siding with anyone...just presenting the facts of my applications for one year extensions of stay.....
I think I am "that person" who posted that I had to provide a copy of Mrs M's ID card as a supporting document for my application for a one year extension of stay based on retirement. What I failed to point out that I have ALWAYS been asked for this for every (6 back to back) extensions of stay I have applied for since January 2010 which have been both retirement then marriage(2 years), retirement(2 years) then marriage once again. This was @ Chok Chai, then Dan Kwien and then KCI. Mrs M's ID card & tabbien ban were to evidence the address I provided on my TM7. I never said it was a requirement because there is no definitive "carved in stone" requirements....it was just something the IO who dealt with my application wanted. The only way to identify what a particular office requires is to contact that particular office prior to your application but then it may have changed when you actually arrive to submit your application. What I do is look on BE, Thaivisa and consult my peers (drinking pals) regarding personal experiences and make my own judgement as to what is required.
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Thanks once again Urleft. You have given me the perfect opportunity for some closing thoughts:
1). Since when has the phrase " extension of stay" been BS?
2) You know nothing about me and what I do to help both the Expat and Thai community.
3) How could I possibly write a thread "marriage extension for dummies" or " extension of stay based on marriage procedures ", as I would prefer to call it, when I have never been through that process myself?
Please also feel free to take an unblinkered look through old posts to see how many times I have been of help. Some post of which you have thanked me personally.
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Apology accepted.
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Thanks Dave.. Right on target.. What is or is not required is determined by who you sit down in front of when you walk in to immigration.. and to DJ you hit the nail right on he head.. Thanks to you as well... You just try to follow the rules.. The problem here is that there are no rules.. You do the best you can..
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Thanks CO-CO, Starman, mxyzptlk and Voodoo for your kind comments.
In case you have forgotten the date tomorrow, attached is something you can print and give to your Tee Rak in lieu of a card or gift.
Chork Dee
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Thanks @urleft for your very informative post of 7 Feb 2014.
I have been living in Bangkok on Retirement Visa extensions for several years. I now wish to move to Buriram Province and live in a bungalow owned by my wife. I wish to continue my immigration status as "Retired".
The local retirement extension requirements that you describe seem basically similar to Bangkok other than "Copies of house book, sign each page". What is a house book? I don't have one in Bangkok. I have no idea what one is. My wife has a Blue Book for her land on which her bungalow is built, and of course she has her "tabian baan".
Any advice that you may offer will be gratefully received.
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YW, BTW there is a updated thread Ver 2015 because of changes.
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,8136.0.html (http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,8136.0.html)
And that's it, the blue book.
And there is a current thread "under consideration" about immigration checking out your home:
http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,8353.0.html (http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,8353.0.html)
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Thanks @urleft for your quick and helpful reply.
I've a sneaking suspicion that you'll be hearing from me again soon on the 2015 thread.
All the best, Olddon