Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: Admin on September 07, 2009, 03:47:58 PM
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Permanent Residence Process.
FROM "THAI VISA" website, very good website. happy2
Residency (Residence permit)
Friday, 22 December 2006
Residency (Residence permit)
Advantages of Permanent Residence in Thailand
There are a number of advantages to holding permanent resident status in Thailand:
It allows the holder to live permanently in Thailand, with no requirement to apply for an extension of temporary stay.
In addition to the permanent residence book, an alien registration book will be issued, which is the equivalent of the ID card held by Thais.
A permanent resident can have his/her name included on a house registration document.
Obtaining a work permit is easier for a permanent resident than for a non-resident, but you still need to have a work permit if working.
A permanent resident also has a number of other privileges such as, for example, being able to:
(a) buy a condominium without being required to transfer money from abroad;
(b) apply for naturalization in accordance with the law concerned;
(c) have Thai nationality granted to children who are born in Thailand;
(d) become a director of a public company; and (e) apply for an extension of stay or permanent residence for non-Thai family members.
The annual quota for granting permanent residency in Thailand is a maximum of 100 persons per country. The Interior Minister is responsible for issuing the announcement each year that the quota is open for submission of applications, usually from October to the end of December.
The Immigration Commission has the power to define all regulations concerning permanent residency. The Immigration Bureau is the agency that handles all procedures concerning permanent residency applications.
Qualifications of an applicant:
1. An applicant must have received permission for yearly stays in Thailand on a non-immigrant visa for at least of three years prior to the submission of an application for permanent residency. Holders of multiple NON-Immigrant visas can not apply. You must have 3 un-broken yearly extensions in order to qualify.
2. An applicant must be holding a non-immigrant visa at the time of submitting an application.
Documents required
The list of required documents depends on the category under which the application is made.
Fees:
Application for a residence permit
7,600
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book)
191,400
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book) for a foreigner married to a Thai, the spouse of a resident, and any of their children who have not reached the status of a Thai juristic person (i.e., unmarried children aged below 20 years)
95,700
The Thai Immigration Bureau has recently (october 2003) announced quotas for all expatriates applying for residence permits at 100 persons per nationality. All foreigners may qualify to apply for a residence permit if he/she
1. Holds a passport of his/her current nationality, which was granted a Non-Immigrant visa and the individual has been permitted to stay in Thailand for at least 3 consecutive years on a 1-year visa extension basis up to the application submission date.
2. Has personal qualifications that meet one or more of the following categories:
- Investment category (minumum 3 - 10 Mil. Baht investment in Thailand)
- Working/ Business category
- Support a family or Humanity Reasons category: He/she must have relationship with a Thai citizen or an alien who already possesses a residence permit as the followings:
- A legal husband or wife
- A legal father or mother
- A child who is under 20 years of age up to the submission date of application and must be single
4) Expert / academics category
5) Other categories
Submission period for the Residence permit applications
The applicants can submit the applications once a year. Normally, the opening date for the applications is in December, we recommend to prepare the required documents 1-2 months earlier. Once the date is announced, the applications can be submitted until the last working day of the year.
The results will be announced in May 2004 and the residence permits will be issued in December 2004.
If approved, a residence blue book is issued to the alien. The foreign resident must register the place of residence in Thailand at the local Amphur Office and obtain a house card. 7 days after receipt of the residence certificate you then apply for an alien book (red book) at the local police station. You must re-register there every year, and the fee is 200 Baht.
The Residency Permit itself never expires, unless revoked . To be able to leave the country and return at will, though, you need to apply each year for a re-entry permit (endorsement ) at 1,000 baht (multiple entry). If you don't leave Thailand, you don't need to have an endorsement done.
Also, you must present yourself at the police station covering the area where you are resident once every five years for a stamp in your book.
An alien with permanent residency status will be eligible to apply for Thai citizenship after 5 consecutive years under this classification.
Camerata's Guide To The Permanent Residence Process.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Camerata-s-Guide-Permanent-Reside-t74654.html
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Criterion and conditions of foreign antionals' residential permit consideration
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=residence (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=residence)
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Criterion and conditions of foreign antionals' residential permit consideration
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=residence (http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=residence)
I will try to apply for this one next year. what do you think are my chances to get it?
people saying its hard to get. why? they even charge money for it so if I have all documents it should not be a problem. right?
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I will try to apply for this one next year. what do you think are my chances to get it?
people saying its hard to get. why? they even charge money for it so if I have all documents it should not be a problem. right?
Applications normally have to be made within a 2 week window in December.
I am a resident. The only benefit is not having to go through the annual rigmarole of a 1 year visa. I paid 25,000bt 20 odd years ago, but at close on 100,000bt I don't think I would bother today.
Whilst you do not have to show a 400/800,000bt in the bank every year as you do for a 1 year visa, then check very thoroughly to see that you have and will have enough money to see you through old age.
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Agree with Nick, for 100K, I will make my annual visit to get a new Visa, and my quarterly hand in paper report.....just plain silly to give up 100K. it would take you 50 years to pay for itself.
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Agree with Nick, for 100K, I will make my annual visit to get a new Visa, and my quarterly hand in paper report.....just plain silly to give up 100K. it would take you 50 years to pay for itself.
yes, but isn't it the way you have to get through to get a Thai passport?
I mean, once you have a permanent residence, it should be easier to get Thai passport?! confused4
*Just asking...... pray1
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why would I want a Thai Passport??? I have a US one.......
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yes, but isn't it the way you have to get through to get a Thai passport?
Fees:
Application for a residence permit
7,600
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book)
191,400
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book) for a foreigner married to a Thai, the spouse of a resident, and any of their children who have not reached the status of a Thai juristic person (i.e., unmarried children aged below 20 years)
95,700
I assume that the OP is taking the P...... A Thai Passport....... Just hit their websit and see where you can go......
My God, give me anything else, except nay'be a Myanmar Passport.
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why would I want a Thai Passport??? I have a US one.......
Agree with Wildoats. I have a British one and am entitled to an irish one. That's enough!
Why would I want a Thai passport and Thai nationality? I suppose I could get free hospital treatment at a government hospital (god forbid!), and at my age I might be eligible for the government old age pension of 500bt a month!
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why would I want a Thai Passport??? I have a US one.......
Agree with Wildoats. I have a British one and am entitled to an irish one. That's enough!
Why would I want a Thai passport and Thai nationality? I suppose I could get free hospital treatment at a government hospital (god forbid!), and at my age I might be eligible for the government old age pension of 500bt a month!
OH boy 500 bt per moth, that would buy you a beer, has to be somethng more than that to want one
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2 main benefits I can think of are:
1) Can buy land.
2) No need to make visa for lifetime.
*You can still hold dual nationality in most countries, you dopn't really have to give up on your us passport.... pray1
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2 main benefits I can think of are:
1) Can buy land.
2) No need to make visa for lifetime.
*You can still hold dual nationality in most countries, you dopn't really have to give up on your us passport.... pray1
I did mention the fact that there was no need to obtain annual visas. But even with residency it is necessary to report to the local Police Station every 5 years and submit an up-to-date photograph.
Indeed you can buy land, but is it worth paying an extra 100,000bt for the privilege? There are other ways of obtaining land and far cheaper!
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2 main benefits I can think of are:
1) Can buy land.
2) No need to make visa for lifetime.
*You can still hold dual nationality in most countries, you don't really have to give up on your us passport.... pray1
I did mention the fact that there was no need to obtain annual visas. But even with residency it is necessary to report to the local Police Station every 5 years and submit an up-to-date photograph.
Indeed you can buy land, but is it worth paying an extra 100,000bt for the privilege? There are other ways of obtaining land and far cheaper!
no, I don't think there are cheaper ways to obtain land legally in Thailand, the legal ways you are talking about will cost in Lawyer fees, sometimes yearly Tax to keep the company who own the land, so yes, if someone want to buy land on his own name its the best investment ever to get Thai passport.
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I think we are all jumping the gun here!
Residency alone does NOT entitle you to buy land!.
To buy land it is necessary to be a Thai citizen and I believe you need to hold residency for 10 years before you can apply.
Another possibility. I think if you make a huge investment in Thai securities, you are allowed to purchase land
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I think we are all jumping the gun here!
Residency alone does NOT entitle you to buy land!.
To buy land it is necessary to be a Thai citizen and I believe you need to hold residency for 10 years before you can apply.
Another possibility. I think if you make a huge investment in Thai securities, you are allowed to purchase land
:D yes. first get the permanent residence before talking about THAI PASSPORT!!!
I wouldn't consider the idea of getting Thai passport myself, why not, its not like I have to give away my current passport.
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If you are married, let the wife buy the land......if you are not sure on that, then you have the wrong wife....other than that, why would you want to own land here????
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If you are married, let the wife buy the land......if you are not sure on that, then you have the wrong wife....other than that, why would you want to own land here????
Well said Wildoats. bravo1
Invest in a good wife first! bananadance
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Hi
I suppose if you have residency you no longer have to keep either 400k or 800k in the bank to maintain your visa.
TBWG sawadi
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Hi
I suppose if you have residency you no longer have to keep either 400k or 800k in the bank to maintain your visa.
TBWG sawadi
That is correct, but when you apply they want to know how much you will have available in later years (pensions savings etc) and only if they think it is sufficient will they move the application forward. Beware they also require proof of what you tell them!
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If you are married, let the wife buy the land......if you are not sure on that, then you have the wrong wife....other than that, why would you want to own land here????
Well said Wildoats. bravo1
Invest in a good wife first! bananadance
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So, which of your 3 investments have given you the best return
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So, which of your 3 investments have given you the best return
Haven't had to realise my investment on the 3rd!
Open to offers thumbup
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If you are married, let the wife buy the land......if you are not sure on that, then you have the wrong wife....other than that, why would you want to own land here????
Well said Wildoats. bravo1
Invest in a good wife first! bananadance
giggle
So, which of your 3 investments have given you the best return
I would say the dancer at Oasis agogo, the dancer at Champange aggo, and the little sweet thing on Soi 6 redman
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I would say the dancer at Oasis agogo, the dancer at Champange aggo, and the little sweet thing on Soi 6 redman
All to be surpassed perhaps on October 10th at Krasang!!! clap
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Permanent Residence applications 2010.
I have just talked with the Thai immigration in Bangkok.
(Korat immigration office referred me to the Bangkok immigration office for this application as they said they are not doing it in their office).
Bangkok head office of Immigration said there is still no announcement of when to apply for Permanent Residence this year.
They said they are still waiting for an approvment /announcement of the exact dates to open for applications.
sawadi
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Phuket Opinion: Policy on Thai residency should not be secret
Phuket Gazette 2011-03-27
PHUKET: It's time for the Ministry of Interior (MoI) to set up a special task force to begin fast-tracking the processing of the huge backlog of permanent residency (PR) applications it is now sitting on in silence.
Such a move would have multiple benefits for all parties involved, including, especially, foreign investors (potential and extant) and Thailand’s all-important tourism industry.
For reasons that have apprently never been divulged by the MoI, the stacks of stale PR applications, submitted in good faith and at great expense by law-abiding, long resident "visitors" to Thailand, continue to gather dust at the ministry.
The farce has aged to the extent that any foreigner who technically qualifies for permanent residency status under the Immigration Act would certainly be put off from applying at all, given that the current plethora of applications dates back to at least 2006.
The breakdown in processing these applications reportedly stems from a xenophobic decision put in place almost a decade ago by 'social order' activiist Purachai Piemsomboon, Interior Minister (and foe of Phuket's night entertainment industry) under former premier Thaksin Shinawatra.
Phuket Gazette readers will know that Police Captain Purachai agreed last week to lead the Pracha Santi Party into the upcoming general elections, and that pollsters see him as a credible contender for the nation's premiership.
Thailand’s current requirements for foreigners to obtain permanent residency are among the most restrictive in the world, at least for male applicants seeking that status on the basis of marriage to a Thai and support of a Thai family.
Current regulations make it far easier for the foreign spouse of a Thai man to obtain residency, a fact which is inherently sexist and completely at odds with the spirit of Thailand's current constitution.
At its heart, qualification for residency status requires male applicants to prove beyond any doubt that their presence in the Kingdom is advantageous to the country. Applicants are also required to prove that they have been in the country for a minimum of three years on consecutively-issued, one-year permits-to-stay, and have paid all of their taxes.
Another stringent requirement put in place during Pol Capt Purachai’s tenure requires male applicants to pass a Thai-language test. Few other countries, with the notable exception of the United Kingdom, impose similar requirements on visa and/or residency applicants – with good reason.
Even the United States puts the primacy of the family unit over language concerns.
Permanent residency applicants, many of them from Phuket, represent the best and brightest of Thailand’s expatriate community. Simply ignoring their applications, submitted in good faith over the past five years, is unacceptable.
If the Government wants to do away with this avenue for immigration, it should amend the Immigration Act to reflect this fact; announce the amendment widely; and stop wasting everybody’s time.
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Reviving this thread.
Has any BE here obtained permanent residency while on a Retirement extension?
I am married to a Thai National, I will reach my 3rd consective retirement extension next year. I am wondering if I should apply for the PR.
1. I am not concerned about costs vrs just doing extensions. It seems to me that I may be able to get a PR and the hell with 90 day reports. However, will need to continue to add a yearly multi entry if I feel the need (so I can come and go as I please).
2. A work permit would be easier, especially if on a Retirement extension were no work is allowed.
I was going to change to a marriage extension next year (to start up a business), but I am thinking the PR may be the way to go.
Would like to hear from some PR holders. Could be talked into meeting in Buriram (beers on me) to get 1st hand knowledge of the process.
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Keith: Check this out http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/731633-thai-residence-permit-application/ (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/731633-thai-residence-permit-application/)
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Can you read and write Thai ?
Can you sing the Thai National anthem?
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Contact Isaan Angkor Tours. They post on BE and SF. One of the owners has a PR.
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Contact Isaan Angkor Tours. They post on BE and SF. One of the owners has a PR.
Very true but PK N got it many, many years ago and he has been known to burst into song if the right fluids are available!. party2
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Nick only drinks soda water unless someone else is footing the bill!!
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Contact Isaan Angkor Tours. They post on BE and SF. One of the owners has a PR.
Very true but PK N got it many, many years ago and he has been known to burst into song if the right fluids are available!. party2
He would fail now - he can only hum the national anthem.