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Buriram Province - General Category => International News clippings => Topic started by: candy on August 18, 2014, 10:45:28 AM
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https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/14/militarization-u-s-police-dragged-light-horrors-ferguson/
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Extremely bloody boring. Why are you so obsessed with guns and the USA?
No other bugger is the slightest bit interested - apart from Nookie and the usual brain dead morons in his gang.
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Aww Shuks Dimple Joe. Don't be like that. This just happens to be one of the items of world news that possibly won't get wiped.
This is the latest on the situation.
The following clip contains extremely bad language. I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VdL9dqkyjhM#t=0
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Extremely bloody boring. Why are you so obsessed with guns and the USA?
No other bugger is the slightest bit interested - apart from Nookie and the usual brain dead morons in his gang.
What do you find boring about murder Dimple Joe.
I think you will find it;s the American police that are obsessed with guns,people have concerns about how the police in America seem to think it's ok to murder innocent black men who's only crime is to have been born black.
I know Nookie but don't know his brain dead gang,but i would imagine they have a open mind and don't allow themselves to be indoctrinated by following the sheep in front,probably like yourself.
What an amazing statement to make after a young man has been murdered by the very people that are paid to protect him.
No other bugger is the slightest bit interested
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Whufc,
Open mind? Are you for real?
You read something in the media and immediately your “open mind” follows the crowd in passing judgement on an incident about which you know absolutely nothing.
Your open mind has convinced you that the policeman is a murderer and the dead boy is an innocent kind young man who wouldn't hurt a fly.
Take a look at the attached stills published recently of the dead boy (the large guy in shorts) treating a convenience store worker with kindness and consideration.
Do you think he reacted in a similar manner when approached by the Police?
I didn't say that the death of the boy was boring (notice I did not say murder).
I said that constant sniping at the USA by people who have probably never been there and have gleaned their knowledge from TV and films, boring in the extreme.
Such sniping is nothing short of bullying and is unnecessary.
If you want to complain about somewhere you have not visited, have a look at this:-
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/saudi-woman-to-be-lashed-50-times-for-calling-morality-police-liars/
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well said Dimple Joe
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I was talking to my sister yesterday (she lives in Michigan), you brought up about he teenage boy been shot and killed by police. I said did you know this innocent teenager was over 6 foot tall and about 300 lbs, and had just robbed a convience store?
She had not heard that.
I am inclined to believe the police in this case. However, the US Police are being over militarized and acting like gestapo. They are sending SWAT teams to serve warrant w/o justification. Several innocent people have been killed with this tactic. Plus cops seem to be on a dog killing spree. They needed to be reined in.
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Whufc,
Open mind? Are you for real?
You read something in the media and immediately your “open mind” follows the crowd in passing judgement on an incident about which you know absolutely nothing.
Your open mind has convinced you that the policeman is a murderer and the dead boy is an innocent kind young man who wouldn't hurt a fly.
Take a look at the attached stills published recently of the dead boy (the large guy in shorts) treating a convenience store worker with kindness and consideration.
Do you think he reacted in a similar manner when approached by the Police?
I didn't say that the death of the boy was boring (notice I did not say murder).
I said that constant sniping at the USA by people who have probably never been there and have gleaned their knowledge from TV and films, boring in the extreme.
Such sniping is nothing short of bullying and is unnecessary.
If you want to complain about somewhere you have not visited, have a look at this:-
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/saudi-woman-to-be-lashed-50-times-for-calling-morality-police-liars/
You read something in the media and immediately your “open mind” follows the crowd in passing judgement on an incident about which you know absolutely nothing.
I would imagine you know as much as me,but you seem to have made a judgement that the police officer is innocent.
Regardless of the boys crime he didn't deserve to be murdered by the police officer,that's why there is a court system so people get treated fairly within the law.
I have never been to America and i will never go,but that doesn't mean i don't understand what America stands for and what America is doing around the world today.
What makes you think i haven't been to Saudi?
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UNARMED, says it all. He may have been a real badass and robbed a convenience store, he may possibly even have resisted arrest (if he was indeed being arrested, I have not read that he was). The fact remains that he was unarmed and was shot in cold blood.
Before I get accused of never going to the States, I have probably been there more than most Septics on this forum in the last 20 years.
I do not know Nookie, am I one of his brain dead morons in his gang?
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I have to agree with Adam.
Nookie is a bad ass and hails from Coventry - that puts you in contention Adam :)
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There are many grave and sad atrocities taking place all around the world at this very moment and since time immemorial.Nothing will change in the future either unless we try and learn from past wrongs.
I do not hate anything or anyone. To do so, only poisons ones own blood.
I have never visited America but my overall perception is that of a vast, beautiful and culturally diverse country.There is good and bad everywhere.
I am pleased to say that I have many American friends.
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Thanks Candy...
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UNARMED, says it all. He may have been a real badass and robbed a convenience store, he may possibly even have resisted arrest (if he was indeed being arrested, I have not read that he was). The fact remains that he was unarmed and was shot in cold blood.
Before I get accused of never going to the States, I have probably been there more than most Septics on this forum in the last 20 years.
I do not know Nookie, am I one of his brain dead morons in his gang?
Hey Nookie..... This Yank is proud to be one of your gang of, supposedly, brain dead morons.. All flags proudly wave when we meet at your place on Sundays.. Wouldn't have it any other way...
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whufc,
As you say, neither of us knows anything about this incident apart from what we read in the media.
I have expressed no opinion about what occurred and reserve judgement until the outcome of either an enquiry or a court case; this means I am open minded. Innocent until proven guilty is I think the phrase.
You on the other hand, have said “murdered by the police officer” and “innocent black men who's only crime is to have been born black”. You have already made your judgement and it means that you are not open minded, in fact you are a bigot.
You say “there is a court system so people get treated fairly within the law”, how fairly are you treating the police officer? Or is fair treatment only reserved for innocent black men?
I am in awe of your understanding of America, despite having never visited the place.
Apparently, they will not admit anyone with a criminal record, so at least they are doing something right.
You've been to Saudi – who cares?
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Adam,
If you have ever shot anyone, you will know it is never in cold blood.
Only in the movies......
Are we to assume you have like whufc, passed judgement on the case already?
If so shame on you.
My reference to Nookie and his brain dead gang was nothing to do with this case.
I was commenting on the constant sniping at the US forum members by a childish clique of drunkards who are like bullys in the school playground.
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CO-CO,
Shame on you – bad boy. !!
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CO-CO,
Shame on you – bad boy. !!
Did I do something wrong......again ????
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Adam,
If you have ever shot anyone, you will know it is never in cold blood.
Only in the movies......
Are we to assume you have like whufc, passed judgement on the case already?
If so shame on you.
My reference to Nookie and his brain dead gang was nothing to do with this case.
I was commenting on the constant sniping at the US forum members by a childish clique of drunkards who are like bullys in the school playground.
Amazing the guys that have never been in a life threatening situation are so ready to pass judgment on those of us that have been there and done that.
If I have a 6+ foot 300 lb giant charging me, I would hope I had enough rounds to stop him.
When I had a choice between their life and mine, I selfishly choose their life every time. So in this case I am inclined to support the cop.
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One of the most sad things about this incident, is that Obama is not trying to instill calm. He is sending his racist AG to stir things up.
Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/justice-department-orders-new-autopsy-of-michael-browns-body/2014/08/18/023a4d12-2694-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/justice-department-orders-new-autopsy-of-michael-browns-body/2014/08/18/023a4d12-2694-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html)
Note that this is same AG that would not go after law breakers because they were "his people"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5P-aEU8EdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5P-aEU8EdI)
He in his own words is not the AG for all Americans, he is just for "my people"
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Concealed Carry
in America
An analysis of the FBI crime statistics found that states that adopted
concealed carry laws REDUCED:11
8.5%
Murders
5%
Rapes
7%
Aggravated Assaults
3%
Robberies
gun free zone
With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns. Despite strict gun regulations, Europe has had 3 of the worst 6 school shootings.
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The deaths of two female police constables have brought into focus the unarmed status of most British police. Why does Britain hold firm against issuing guns to officers on the beat?
It's the single most obvious feature that sets the British bobby apart from their counterparts overseas.
Tourists and visitors regularly express surprise at the absence of firearms from the waists of officers patrolling the streets.
But to most inhabitants of the UK - with the notable exception of Northern Ireland - it is a normal, unremarkable state of affairs that most front-line officers do not carry guns.
Unremarkable, that is, until unarmed officers like Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone are killed in the line of duty. There are always those who question why Britain is out of step with most of the rest of the world, with the exceptions of the Republic of Ireland, New Zealand, Norway and a handful of other nations.
Continue reading the main story
View from a bobby
A police constable serving in a city in southern England gives his view:
"I have been in the police for 12 years, before that I was in the Army. I would happily carry a gun if the decision was made but it won't ever happen.
"I don't think practically it could work because of the training. Officers in this country are highly trained and this would extend to firearms training, too. But, at the moment, with all the cuts, we can't put enough officers in the cars, let alone give them firearms training.
"Also, the police in this country are always under so much scrutiny. Look at the issue of Tasers, the civil liberty groups think they are one of the most inhumane things going.
"I was previously injured badly in an assault. My colleague and I feared for our lives - thankfully other officers came to our aid. I don't think a gun - or a Taser for that matter - would have helped us in that situation. Communication is one of the best tools, and to be honest, having a gun could make an officer feel over-confident."
The police are the public and vice versa
Police should not be armed - Orde
For a heavily urbanised country of its population size, the situation in Great Britain is arguably unique.
Film director Michael Winner, founder of the Police Memorial Trust, and Tony Rayner, the former chairman of Essex Police Federation, have both called for officers to be routinely armed.
But despite the loss of two of his officers, Greater Manchester Chief Constable Sir Peter Fahy was quick to speak in support of the status quo.
"We are passionate that the British style of policing is routinely unarmed policing. Sadly we know from the experience in America and other countries that having armed officers certainly does not mean, sadly, that police officers do not end up getting shot."
But one thing is clear. When asked, police officers say overwhelmingly that they wish to remain unarmed.
A 2006 survey of 47,328 Police Federation members found 82% did not want officers to be routinely armed on duty, despite almost half saying their lives had been "in serious jeopardy" during the previous three years.
It is a position shared by the Police Superintendents' Association and the Association of Chief Police Officers.
The British public are not nearly so unanimous.
An ICM poll in April 2004 found 47% supported arming all police, compared with 48% against.
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Or maybe the cop would be dead now:
BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/)
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Found this assessment in thread:
I find it amazing how all our armchair firearms experts are debating the fine points of aiming, the number of shots, the placements, etc.
Just some practical info for all. When the human body goes under stress, the first thing to go is the fine motor skills. That means that your pinpoint aim is gone. That is why LEOs are trained to shoot center mass. They are also trained to shoot to stop the threat. That means if they are in fear for their life, they shoot until the threat stops. There is no such thing as shoot to wound. If you have a threat coming at you, you have maybe 1-3 seconds to decide what to do and the do it. If you are injured or in severe pain, the situation is even worse.
There is much ado about how many shots were fired. Whether it takes 2 45ACP rounds to the head, or 10 9mm rounds to the body, the officer will continue to shoot until the threat stops. His aim will be imprecise, and his adrenaline level will be astronomical.
A street situation of “do or die” is not anywhere near punching holes in paper at a range. I’m pretty damn accurate at a range, not so much under stress.
So while everyone second-guesses the officer, just imagine yourself in that situation. You have already been assaulted and wounded. The thug has tried to take your weapon, obviously not to turn it in for $50 at the local gun buy-back, and he is now charging, all 6’4” close to 300 pounds of him leaving not much question that he means you harm. So, do you count shots? How many are enough if he is still charging? Should you stop and ask if he’s done attacking you? That is why LEOs are trained to shoot center mass and shoot until the threat is stopped. You would do exactly the same
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3194892/posts (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3194892/posts)
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