Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: Mod on January 16, 2021, 06:23:51 PM
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This is about immigration in Thailand.
You must have covid19 test for stamp in passport.
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FROM RICHARD BAROW
🖊 The need for a COVID test are being added to the following in the Immigration Act:
👉 SECTION 12 Aliens falling into any of the following categories are excluded from entering the Kingdom (4) Being of unsound mind or having any of the diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations
👉 SECTION 44 No alien shall take up residency in the Kingdom, if (2) it appears that such alien is unable to earn own living because of physical infirmity or mental defect or having any diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.
I will of course post more information here once I get some clarity on some of the points and also once Immigration make an announcement. But as we all know, that will probably come the day before.
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FROM RICHARD BAROW
🖊 The need for a COVID test are being added to the following in the Immigration Act:
👉 SECTION 12 Aliens falling into any of the following categories are excluded from entering the Kingdom (4) Being of unsound mind or having any of the diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations
👉 SECTION 44 No alien shall take up residency in the Kingdom, if (2) it appears that such alien is unable to earn own living because of physical infirmity or mental defect or having any diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.
I will of course post more information here once I get some clarity on some of the points and also once Immigration make an announcement. But as we all know, that will probably come the day before.
Not clear. Seems you may have chopped off some of the explanation.
I guess what this is trying to say is that a Covid19 test is going to be added to the restrictions. Not test no entry and no extension.
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Click Bait
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Click Bait
Not.
Richard Barrow OBE is probably the most respected Farang 'journalist' in Thailand. His Facebook page has long been a reliable source of information.
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runningdog
Click Bait
Oops - double post
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FROM RICHARD BAROW
🖊 The need for a COVID test are being added to the following in the Immigration Act:
👉 SECTION 12 Aliens falling into any of the following categories are excluded from entering the Kingdom (4) Being of unsound mind or having any of the diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations
👉 SECTION 44 No alien shall take up residency in the Kingdom, if (2) it appears that such alien is unable to earn own living because of physical infirmity or mental defect or having any diseases as prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.
I will of course post more information here once I get some clarity on some of the points and also once Immigration make an announcement. But as we all know, that will probably come the day before.
Not clear. Seems you may have chopped off some of the explanation.
I guess what this is trying to say is that a Covid19 test is going to be added to the restrictions. Not test no entry and no extension.
Worth waiting to see....
It is clear that the timing of this Royal Decree matches the outbreak of Covid in Samut Sakhon and I would suggest that this new requirement is aimed at migrant workers.
That is not to say that we expats won't be caught up in it all, should Immigration decide to apply the letter of law to us.
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^+1 (let's wait and see)
Another piece of paper to add to the list for the pleasure to stay in LOS.
Asked my insurance and they will NOT cover this, if it was ordered by a Doctor in Hospital then it's covered, but just as proof for immigration that you don't have it then NOT
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Regardless he's asking and raising legitimate concerns that have also been officially raised by the CCSA who have confirmed in their English language briefing yesterday that the new rules for covid tests are current for migrant workers but will also include ALL foreign workers who are applying for a work permit from next month.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1201873-expats-may-need-to-take-covid-19-test-in-order-to-renew-extensions-of-stay-richard-barrow/?do=findComment&comment=16173772
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1395920320731833/permalink/2993444897646026/
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I don't have Facebook, and it's also blocked here (not going to unblock it also)
Can you post what is written there?
TiA
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ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS:
There is shit-storm out on the thai related inter-web that started with a post by Richard Barrow speculating that all people getting extensions will need a covid test after the 25th of Jan.
It is 100% speculation and at this time there is no factual evidence from the thai government or immigrations that this is happening.
The change made to the immigration act is for people ENTERING the country.
I will link to the Thai Visa / The Nation News Forum article
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I will highlight the last line on their article:
Thaivisa?s advice - wait for further information on this one. Despite being published in Royal Gazette, this may not apply for the vast majority of people reading this post. Don?t panic!
At this time we are NOT allowing posts about it and we are not allowing comments about it. We are waiting to see what the thai government says about it first.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1201873-expats-may-need-to-take-covid-19-test-in-order-to-renew-extensions-of-stay-richard-barrow/
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Thx.
Good advice. Who wrote that?
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ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS:
There is shit-storm out on the thai related inter-web that started with a post by Richard Barrow speculating that all people getting extensions will need a covid test after the 25th of Jan.
It is 100% speculation and at this time there is no factual evidence from the thai government or immigrations that this is happening.
The change made to the immigration act is for people ENTERING the country.
I will link to the Thai Visa / The Nation News Forum article
AND
I will highlight the last line on their article:
Thaivisa?s advice - wait for further information on this one. Despite being published in Royal Gazette, this may not apply for the vast majority of people reading this post. Don?t panic!
At this time we are NOT allowing posts about it and we are not allowing comments about it. We are waiting to see what the thai government says about it first.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1201873-expats-may-need-to-take-covid-19-test-in-order-to-renew-extensions-of-stay-richard-barrow/
Just to add .... the above is from a Thai Visa Advice FB page by Tod Daniels who is probably as knowledgeable as anyone I know on visa related matters.
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Thx Co-Co.
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I can see vaccination being a must to enter and stay in Thailand. Knowing immigration's belt and braces approach to most things, I would imagine a negative test could also be required.
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I can see vaccination being a must to enter and stay in Thailand. Knowing immigration's belt and braces approach to most things, I would imagine a negative test could also be required.
There is some logic to that comment................................ so we can safely assume that it will not happen.
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Vaccine wise, I rather not have the Sinovac vaccine but rather opt for the Pfizer or Moderna ones.
Why?
A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac has been found to be 50.4% effective in Brazilian clinical trials, according to the latest results released by researchers. It shows the vaccine is significantly less effective than previous data suggested - barely over the 50% needed for regulatory approval
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55642648
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Vaccine wise, I rather not have the Sinovac vaccine but rather opt for the Pfizer or Moderna ones.
Why?
A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac has been found to be 50.4% effective in Brazilian clinical trials, according to the latest results released by researchers. It shows the vaccine is significantly less effective than previous data suggested - barely over the 50% needed for regulatory approval
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55642648
I would doubt you would get a choice. If the vaccine is part of the immigration process, you will no doubt be given the one that the Thai government are using.
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I fear "give" is not correct word.
Guess "have to buy" fits better :-)
But should be interesting to hear their reasoning for this bright idea :-)
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I fear "give" is not correct word.
Guess "have to buy" fits better :-)
But should be interesting to hear their reasoning for this bright idea :-)
The reasoning is obvious.
I think that the target group is migrant workers (even though many arrive illegally) - the issue is that Farangs may get caught up in it as well............ certainly those with work permits; for other resident/visiting expats let's wait and see.
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I fear "give" is not correct word.
Guess "have to buy" fits better :-)
But should be interesting to hear their reasoning for this bright idea :-)
The reasoning is obvious.
I think that the target group is migrant workers (even though many arrive illegally) - the issue is that Farangs may get caught up in it as well............ certainly those with work permits; for other resident/visiting expats let's wait and see.
Maybe the British Embassy will help us Brits. :D :D :D :D :D
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I fear "give" is not correct word.
Guess "have to buy" fits better :-)
But should be interesting to hear their reasoning for this bright idea :-)
The reasoning is obvious.
I think that the target group is migrant workers (even though many arrive illegally) - the issue is that Farangs may get caught up in it as well............ certainly those with work permits; for other resident/visiting expats let's wait and see.
Maybe the British Embassy will help us Brits. :D :D :D :D :D
LOL :o ........... that would be a first
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A quick search of the internet and a couple of Facebook groups. It amazes me how many people get annoyed about these things. One group calling it racist and xenophobic. Unreal.
I like living here. If I need to go an have a cotton bud stuck up my nose and a needle in my arm to stay here then so be it. What's the beef?
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A quick search of the internet and a couple of Facebook groups. It amazes me how many people get annoyed about these things. One group calling it racist and xenophobic. Unreal.
I like living here. If I need to go an have a cotton bud stuck up my nose and a needle in my arm to stay here then so be it. What's the beef?
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Whether I agree with it or not does not matter; I respect the Thai authorities' right to set whatever terms they wish.
(They are obviously racist and xenophobic - but that is not the point in question).
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Richard Barrow in Thailand
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IMPORTANT: A test for #COVID19 will be required from next week onwards for every foreigner who wishes to extend their stay in the kingdom, the immigration police said Monday.
♦️COVID-19 Test Will Be Mandatory for All Visa Extensions https://www.khaosodenglish.com/.../covid-19-test-result... #Thailand
👉 Hopefully all of those keyboard warriors who were attacking me over the weekend, here and on ThaiVisa, will now apologise. Though I doubt that will happen.
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They are already backtracking
https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1351403531190734848
BREAKING: Immigration has backtracked on the policy after outcry on social media. News story coming soon.
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https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/01/19/covid-19-test-result-will-be-mandatory-for-all-visa-extensions/
BANGKOK ? A spokesman for the immigration police on Tuesday walked back on his announcement that a negative COVID-19 test result will be mandatory for every foreigner who wishes to extend their stay in the kingdom.
Immigration bureau spokesman Archayon Kraithong previously said on Monday the new measure will be applied to ?every type of visa,? regardless of how long the foreigner has stayed in the country.
But less than an hour after his remark was reported on Khaosod English ? sparking an uproar among expats on social media ? the spokesman reached back to say he was misinformed about the new policy, and offered an apology.
?I apologize for the misunderstanding,? Maj. Gen. Archayon said. ?It will only apply to certain types of visa, most likely the permanent resident visa.?
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They are already backtracking
https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1351403531190734848
BREAKING: Immigration has backtracked on the policy after outcry on social media. News story coming soon.
Now..... is that the backtrack on the original decision - or a backtrack on the new requirement? :biggrin:
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IMMIGRATION BACKTRACKS ON PLAN TO REQUIRE COVID-19 TEST FOR VISA EXTENSIONS
By Khaosod English -January 19, 2021 11:30 am
A file photo of a man taking a swab test for the coronavirus.
A file photo of a man taking a swab test for the coronavirus.
BANGKOK ? A spokesman for the immigration police on Tuesday walked back on his announcement that a negative COVID-19 test result will be mandatory for every foreigner who wishes to extend their stay in the kingdom.
Immigration bureau spokesman Archayon Kraithong previously said on Monday the new measure will be applied to ?every type of visa,? regardless of how long the foreigner has stayed in the country.
But less than an hour after his remark was reported on Khaosod English ? sparking an uproar among expats on social media ? the spokesman reached back to say he was misinformed about the new policy, and offered an apology.
?I apologize for the misunderstanding,? Maj. Gen. Archayon said. ?It will only apply to certain types of visa, most likely the permanent resident visa.?
He went on to say that the Immigration Bureau will have to wait for the Council of State ? an agency tasked with settling legislative disputes ? to interpret the latest regulation concerning coronavirus and arrivals from overseas published on Dec. 25.
?We?re waiting for the Council of State to interpret the new regulation,? Maj. Gen. Archayon said.
The order added COVID-19 to the list of prohibited diseases for foreigners who wish to enter or take residency in Thailand. Other diseases include leprosy, ?dangerous stage? of tuberculosis, elephantiasis, drug addiction, and tertiary stage of syphilis.
The announcement did not mention any restriction that must be taken on foreigners already residing in Thailand.
?This is such a pointless exercise,? Twitter user Siobh?n Robbins wrote. ?If long term expats have Covid19 then with borders basically closed and 14 mandatory quarantine they have almost certainly got it via local transmission in Thailand. COVID19 doesn?t pick people by race, yet foreigners are once again singled out.?
Read: Some Hospitals Apply ?Farang Pricing? for Coronavirus Testing
Local immigration offices appeared to be unaware of any new measure that would require foreign residents to present a negative coronavirus test upon renewing their visas.
?I haven?t heard about it,? Chonburi immigration chief Narain Kheungsanook said by phone.
Phuket Immigration Deputy Chief Col. Nareuwat Putthawiro also told The Phuket News that his office has not received any such order.
?We do not require any medical documents for an application to renew a visa, because there are few foreigners? movements outside Phuket. Most of them live and work in Phuket, and have done so before the new wave of COVID-19,? Col. Nareuwat was quoted as saying.
It was far from the first time that the immigration contradicted itself on its own enforcement of visa policy.
A spokesman said in July that an amnesty would not be granted to foreigners stranded in Thailand due to the pandemic, though they later did. In 2018, Chinese nationals flying from Hong Kong were also barred from using a premium lane reserved for Chinese nationals at an airport in Bangkok.
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I like this comment on Thaivisa about this
Once again different immigration offices issuing different stories. I swear the word coordination is just not understood here.
For long term expats, who have not traveled anywhere, this makes absolutely no sense.
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This one (excerpt from the post Co-Co posted) is spot on
?This is such a pointless exercise,? Twitter user Siobh?n Robbins wrote. ?If long term expats have Covid19 then with borders basically closed and 14 mandatory quarantine they have almost certainly got it via local transmission in Thailand. COVID19 doesn?t pick people by race, yet foreigners are once again singled out.?
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Another storm in a teacup.
Foreigners are hardly being singled out. It's just another,possible, requirement at immigration.
My extension is not for a long while. I'm not even going to give this much thought. It will all be sorted after a while. These things always are.
I am still expecting vaccination to appear on the list of requirements fairly soon.
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I am still expecting vaccination to appear on the list of requirements fairly soon.
I think fairly soon is approx 3-6+ months because that is how soon I expect enough Vaccine is available for us (excluding of course Private Hospitals)
But as of course TiT
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Thanathorn queries govt?s Covid-19 vaccine deal, links with royally owned Siam Bioscience
By THE NATION
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Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit
The Progressive Movement leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit slammed the government for its tardiness in providing Covid-19 vaccines and pointed out that the company tasked with manufacturing the vaccine locally is owned by the King.
In a Facebook Live session on Monday, Thanathorn said the government has been careless in negotiations for the vaccine, adding that Thailand only completed discussions with AstraZeneca in October last year. In comparison, he said, several countries had started discussing purchase options with vaccine producers in the first quarter of 2020.
Moreover, he said, the 26 million doses purchased from AstraZeneca is not enough, and even with the 2 million doses the government is buying from China?s Sinovac, only 21.5 per cent of the population will be covered.
He added that the Cabinet had on January 5 okayed the purchase of another 35 million doses from AstraZeneca, but the contract for this plan has not been signed yet. So, the leader of the now-defunct Future Forward Party asked if these 35 million doses were part of the earlier deals with AstraZeneca and Sinovac.
As for the vaccine manufacturing deal with royally owned Siam Bioscience, Thanathorn said the company is tasked with producing 200 million doses per year. Of this, 176 million will be sold to other countries in the region, while the remainder will be sold locally.
Siam Bioscience was established in 2009 with an authorised capital of Bt48 billion, but over the past 11 years, the corporation has made losses worth Bt581 billion, Thanathorn said.
The government, meanwhile, has announced it will give Siam Bioscience Bt1.44 billion for the project.
The Progressive Movement?s leader also said the government claims to have approved a vaccine plan from the first quarter of last year, but pointed out that Siam Bioscience was only added to the plan in the second quarter of 2020 ? when anti-establishment protesters began holding their rallies.
Hence, he asked whether the AstraZeneca-Siam Bioscience deal is politically motivated.
He also suggested that the government should consider other choices, adding that it is imperative for the authorities to start providing vaccines as soon as possible.
He also said he was curious to find out if the prime minister will compensate people in case the procurement of vaccines ? considering the government has chosen very few options ? encounters problems.
In response to Thanathorn?s statement, Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said the Covid-19 vaccine is an important matter and should not be linked to politics.
Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401459
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