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Buriram Province - General Category => Internet, computers, communication, technology in Isaan => Topic started by: iammike on June 08, 2015, 08:49:04 PM

Title: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 08, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
in between the time that we have moved in our new house and the time that TOT has setup Wi-Net at the house, I need to get a 3G package (PrePaid so not subscription).

So my question, if you use 3G, which 3G provider do you use and are you happy with them ?

And what package do you use at which cost per week / month ?

Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: davureborn on June 09, 2015, 01:18:21 AM
We generally use AIS, ฿300/month when we are going away for a few days, rarely found ourselves in a black hole.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 12, 2015, 07:25:21 PM
I went today to ToT Buriram and applied for Wi-Net. After paying them the (huge) amount for installing the tower (around 20 meters high) they told us that they will install it within 7 days.

So I will have internet even before we have moved in. (i hope and if so, then Yeah again)

I will still have a AIS 1 Gb MiFi as backup as what I have heard Wi-Net Is not really that reliable, but unfortunately it's the only thing I can get (except for 3G) for Internet in the sticks.

Fingers crossed that everything works out and I don't have to call 1100 every other day ;)
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 12, 2015, 08:29:44 PM
TOT Installed our tower (25mtr's) about 3 years ago. Have no complaints at all so far.
OK sometimes it has a bit of glitch, but no more than I get here in the UK.
We are about 20 min's out in the sticks on the road that passes your original  intended building site.
The mast erection team are on the ball, and very interesting to watch.
The first visit they dug pits and concreted in the anchors. about 3 days after when the concrete had set
they came back and erected the mast, another 2 days later the Engineers came from TOT and wired it up and tuned it all in.
All in all a very good service.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 12, 2015, 10:28:32 PM
How far is the. TOT Tower from your home??   Is the internet quick.. What is your Download / upload speed??
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 13, 2015, 06:16:27 AM
How far is the. TOT Tower from your home??   Is the internet quick.. What is your Download / upload speed??

I think this question is for "'mahdam" but I can answer some questions.

The Tower is from my House around 5-6 Km (but I am not 100% sure about this one, as the Sales Lady said that the tower is in LamDuan and the techie said Krasang, if it is in Krasang then it is 10km as the crow flies)

Edit: if the internet is quick no idea, but a Guy in the village who has the same setup is watching YouTube all the time and never ever has buffering issues he told me.

The abs. max speed what you can get is 10 Mb Down and 0.25 Mb Up (but this according to the sales lady at TOT). Actual speed test I can give you as soon as they have installed the Tower.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 13, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
Thanks Mike
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 13, 2015, 08:12:58 PM
How far is the. TOT Tower from your home??   Is the internet quick.. What is your Download / upload speed??

Sorry Toffo, but I am a bit of a Ludite when it comes to these things.
I estimate we are around 10/12 k's from the mast in Krasang where we get our signal.
I reckon its every bit as quick as I am getting here in the UK. I never get frustrated with it, so it must be pretty quick.
Our package is for 10MB, actual speeds I'm not sure.
Sorry to be so vague, but until we get back in Oct its the best I can offer
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 13, 2015, 08:36:03 PM
Thanks Mahdam.. I'm seriously thinking if getting this myself but have been waiting for other peoples opinions who have it already.. I think I'll go ahead and get it now.. thanks again..
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 13, 2015, 08:44:25 PM
Thanks Mahdam.. I'm seriously thinking if getting this myself but have been waiting for other peoples opinions who have it already.. I think I'll go ahead and get it now.. thanks again..

we have never looked back since having it installed. Those bloody air card things were driving me crazy. Yes a big outlay at first, but as far as I am concerned, money well spent.
The ladies in the TOT office where on the ball as to exactly what was needed.
Good luck with it.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 13, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
Thanks Mahdam.. I'm seriously thinking if getting this myself but have been waiting for other peoples opinions who have it already.. I think I'll go ahead and get it now.. thanks again..

toffo,

If you have a week or 2 I can let you know what I got and if it is any good, but if you get it please note that you have to fork out a significant amount (+/- 20k THB or more) to get your mast for Wi-Net installed when you apply for the service at TOT.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 13, 2015, 09:35:41 PM
That's fine mike I'll wait and see how yours is first.. How much is the mast?? I've been quoted 17000 .. Does that sound correct??  Thanks
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 13, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
That is about right however the guy in the village (I am the 2nd one to get it) paid around 3 years ago approx 40k, so I am waiting to see how much the actual costs are going to be when they come and install it.

I don't really understand the price difference. BTW his tower is 30 Meters high so I am wondering how high mine will be (15 m ???? ;)).

Also one thing you have to look out for when they install it is to see if they install earthing, I already bought Rods for them to install as I don't think they will bother/care.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2015, 11:11:32 AM
Those who already have a TOT tower installed on their property....how much is the monthly charge for the Internet service?
We already have a 25 metre tower which was installed by a company called PVS in Buriram. We went with them because another fella in the village used them and got a good service.
To date (  2 yrs service) our internet has been good and only drops out if there are thunder storms. However, we paid 42,000 baht for the tower and a further 7, 000 for the dish and cable to house. We also pay 1,700 a month for the Internet service so by no means a cheap option.
We do of course own the tower so it may now be worth looking at alternative providers depending on reliability of service and monthly costs.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 03:20:07 PM
Tot is busy installing my tower at this moment, will report back later on.

First impressions is aoke
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 14, 2015, 03:25:49 PM
Those who already have a TOT tower installed on their property....how much is the monthly charge for the Internet service?
We already have a 25 metre tower which was installed by a company called PVS in Buriram. We went with them because another fella in the village used them and got a good service.
To date (  2 yrs service) our internet has been good and only drops out if there are thunder storms. However, we paid 42,000 baht for the tower and a further 7, 000 for the dish and cable to house. We also pay 1,700 a month for the Internet service so by no means a cheap option.
We do of course own the tower so it may now be worth looking at alternative providers depending on reliability of service and monthly costs.
Those who already have a TOT tower installed on their property....how much is the monthly charge for the Internet service?
We already have a 25 metre tower which was installed by a company called PVS in Buriram. We went with them because another fella in the village used them and got a good service.
To date (  2 yrs service) our internet has been good and only drops out if there are thunder storms. However, we paid 42,000 baht for the tower and a further 7, 000 for the dish and cable to house. We also pay 1,700 a month for the Internet service so by no means a cheap option.
We do of course own the tower so it may now be worth looking at alternative providers depending on reliability of service and monthly costs.

We paid 38K for a 25 Mtr mast, including all wiring inside and outside of the house, Router also included.
A fully working system.
We also have the facility to have a house phone on the same system but haven't bothered with that.
For 10 Mb, unlimited downloads, it costs 650 something Bht per month.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 03:35:09 PM
Picture of the tower in action, in total the tower is around 17m high

Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2015, 04:07:40 PM
Thanks Mike, Sounds like a good deal. Think I will make enquiries with TOT and see what service is like for our area and if will hook up to existing tower.

One thing I do recall and had forgotten when I posted earlier. Our monthly is so high because I signed up for a premium service. Allegedly, we get priority of the signal is low. I went with this because at the time I was in the UK and making daily video calls between here and there. From memory I believe the regular service was still 1,000 THB a month so still more that TOT.
It may be that TOT don't cover this area but on the face of it I think I'm being fleeced.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: gotlost on June 14, 2015, 04:22:15 PM
My understanding of TOT Winet is its OK if your 10km OR less on a straight line to their main tower but if your over 10 km you'll be in trouble.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
TOT just left, and everything up and running.

Together with the tower they also installed a TP-Link router complete with wireless, so Internet and wireless up and running.

Just watched a Youtube Video without Buffering, for speedtest results you have to wait a bit more as I am on iPad and the best (and independent) speed test (IMO) are Java based.

Will report back.

Edit:- I am from the tower a total of 3km and the guys who installed it said, that the Main towers are installed everywhere now and a total of 4000 customer WiNet towers are up and running in the Buriram area

Edit 2: Total Price I paid for everything (incl Tower and Wireless Router and cabling inside house) was 17500 THB, with a monthly bill coming for +/- 700 THB.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
My understanding of TOT Winet is its OK if your 10km OR less on a straight line to their main tower but if your over 10 km you'll be in trouble.


I think that may well be the problem for us. My belief is that we are one of only two houses that have Internet in our particular village and we both have quite a substantial 25m tower (very different from the picture Mike has posted hence price difference for set up) with a dish on top. Will make enquiries but suspect I am stuck with what we have for now.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: gotlost on June 14, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
My understanding of TOT Winet is its OK if your 10km OR less on a straight line to their main tower but if your over 10 km you'll be in trouble.


I think that may well be the problem for us. My belief is that we are one of only two houses that have Internet in our particular village and we both have quite a substantial 25m tower (very different from the picture Mike has posted hence price difference for set up) with a dish on top. Will make enquiries but suspect I am stuck with what we have for now.



When Winet first came out TOT did have a dish but as time went on they junked it. The dish gave a false advertisement that it was satellite. Winet works on microwave  theory. Thats why Mikes look as it does. If he is under 10 km he should be OK.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 04:40:27 PM
Freddy,

Dont worry I had the same worries as you, but the guys said to me that Main towers are getting installed everywhere.

To my utter surprise I am only 3km from the tower but the guy (in the same village) who had WiNet installed around 3 years ago was switched to the Krasang tower which is around 10km (as the crow flies) that's why the huge price and size difference of his tower.

So talk to the Guys who install it (via the main Buriram TOT office) and find out how much you are from the tower.

My initial guesses where completely wrong as I though I would be connected to either Lam Duan or Krasang but actually I am connected to the tower in the next village down.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: davureborn on June 14, 2015, 04:45:43 PM
It is very erratic, isn't it? We live in a small village way off the main road and i can usually watch UK TV and download films without a problem.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
Absolutely no complaints with the service we get. I stream to TV and iPad with no problem. Just very expensive at 1700 per month when compared to 650 a month for what sounds like a similar standard of service.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 06:25:24 PM
It is very erratic, isn't it? We live in a small village way off the main road and i can usually watch UK TV and download films without a problem.

One of the ToT guys said, you can compare it with True Visions when it's raining hard and it's Windy you can have problems with your connection but after the weather settles down it should be up and running again in a matter of minutes. I uploaded my days worth of Pictures to OneDrive and that was done very quick (each picture averaging 2 Mb), so at the moment I am very happy. Tomorrow (if I  have the time) will take my laptop with me to he site and do some speed tests and will report back.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 14, 2015, 07:17:03 PM
Have been trying to post some pic's of our mast. But keep getting knocked back because the files are to big.
And with my limited knowledge of computers I have not found a way to re-size them.  brick1
Anyway It is very different to yours Mike, and that will probably be the reason for the difference in price.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 14, 2015, 07:45:45 PM
One last crack at this resizing.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 14, 2015, 07:48:46 PM
YES!!!!!  party6
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 14, 2015, 07:58:26 PM
Good for you that you managed to do it.

Applause.

This mast looks almost exactly the same as the mast the other Guy in my village has (however I think yours is higher) and that indeed explains the price difference.

My "mast" was up in just 1.5 hours or less which I don't think was the case with yours :)
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Freddy on June 14, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
That's the type I've got as well. Bloody eye sore!
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: mahdam on June 14, 2015, 11:33:03 PM
That's the type I've got as well. Bloody eye sore!
Maybe something like this would be more in keeping.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: lindsaywarden6 on June 15, 2015, 08:33:38 AM
 I also have the TOT microwave receiver mast which was originally installed in our village of Ban Wa on highway 226 between Krasang and Nong Daeng - we were getting our signal from the tower at Nong Daeng about 4km away.  Cost was 22k all inclusive and monthly cost just under 700.  The metal mast was on top of the concrete pole to get maximum effect.  Have just moved the mast to a house on the northeast outskirts of Mueang Buriram - 4,000 to move and re-install.  A neighbour has the same setup and his metal pole is at the top of his concrete pole; however, when they put mine in here the metal pole is level with the concrete pole - works well and same as at Ban Wa so no problem. I assume I get signal from the city TOT office which is only a few km away. My understanding is that there is only one package available so no choices on speed.  I am not overly IT literate but the three checks I did at Ban Wa on download speed showed 9.96, 9.83 and 9.24.  In general usage it seems variable when downloading large items depending on time of day but no real problem streaming sports, etc.  A friend in Surin province halfway between Krasang and Prasat swears by the pocket wifi setup.  At the time of installation the TOT option was the only one available to me outside of the main town areas.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Lindsay, good one but you mention that a friend prefers pocket wifi, IMO that is a 3G SIM in a MiFi and thats not comparable to WiNet as that is quite expensive if you use large amounts of data.

I use on average 60 GB of data a month, which is mostly consumed by using IPTV.

If I would use 3G I would have to spend approx 699 x 20 = +/- 13.000 THB per month (explanation 3GB Data with a Ais 12call Sim will cost approx 699 THB).  With WiNet I only have to pay 700 and I can use as much data as I want. I know people who are using close to 200 GB of data a month

Edit: Added link to Ais 12 call 3G data package prices

http://www.ais.co.th/3g/en/package.aspx?id=17&type=computer_package#tips
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 15, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
Bought and paid this morning.. 17300 baht.. Coming out at the weekend...  Happy Days
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Bought and paid this morning.. 17300 baht.. Coming out at the weekend...  Happy Days

Congrats,

Just make sure when they come and install it that they Setup the wifi in the Tp-Link with your desired Wireless name and password and please select as Wireless security WPA or WPA2 and NOT WEP.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 15, 2015, 10:07:07 AM
Thanks Mike, let's hope all goes well.. I'm 3K away from the TOT Tower so should be ok hopefully
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 10:10:32 AM
Sure it will work out. Total install work (including running the  CAT 5E cable into the house) was approx 2 - 2.5 hours tops.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 02:27:08 PM
Forgot my laptop at the rental to do speed tests, but I just did a Firewall check via Gibson Research grc.com site and come to the conclusion that the network isn't completely closed from the Wan side.

The firewall check finds all ports closed, but port 80 which is for Internet access via Browser (so your configuration) is Wide open.

I have been searching high and low for the password to disable this in the Admin side of the WiNet box, but I can't find that password to access the settings. TOT left me only with a standard user id password but that only allows me to watch the status of the Winet connection. :(
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 15, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
Your starting to lose me now Mike.. Does that mean your wide open to Viruses or that ppl can use you internet also??
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
Re: Viruses, it could be, as your Winet box is open for access from the Internet (which is generally never a good thing), however it doesn't mean that people can access your wireless as I posted earlier set a strong password for Wireless and as Security for wireless WPA or WPA2 and NOT WEP (which is easy to hack)

If you wanna test it for yourself goto Google and type in grc.com and in the search results that appear click Shields Up, the page that appears then should be self explanatory but if you get stuck just shout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shields_Up

Good tests to do there is common ports which in an ideal situation should say "Stealth", but in my case it said "Failed" with Port 80 HTTP open.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: Somnat on June 15, 2015, 05:44:08 PM
Good info recommending Gibson Research grc.com iammike  party4

Did a check on my system and according to them my computer is not only a ninja, but is tight as a fishes arsehole  thumbup
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 15, 2015, 06:35:41 PM
Good info recommending Gibson Research grc.com iammike  party4

Did a check on my system and according to them my computer is not only a ninja, but is tight as a fishes arsehole  thumbup

55555 good for you, I am not so lucky yet, but I am looking for a solution but haven't found one yet.
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 17, 2015, 08:12:29 AM
Question for all members who have TOT WiNet installed.

Do you have the Admin Password for the TOT supplied WiNet box which sits on top of the tower ? If so, care to share that with me via Pm ?

Note: I am NOT looking for the xxxxfxxx@ with totwinet pwd as that is only User access, and I am also NOT looking for the PWD for the TP-Link that TOT supplied (which is usually admin with password tot).

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: toffo on June 21, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
Internet installed Today.. Great speed and can now watch movies online...   thumbup
Title: Re: 3G Providers question
Post by: iammike on June 21, 2015, 03:17:35 PM
Wow congrats Toffo.

Welcome to the WiNet Family ;)