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Buriram Province - General Category => Thailand News clippings => Topic started by: Sofa_King on July 18, 2016, 12:08:39 PM
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Thailand Government Plans to Wipe Out Sex Industry (http://lovepattayathailand.com/thailand-government-plans-wipe-sex-industry/)
Thailand’s infamous sex industry is under fire from the country’s government who hope to abolish it!
Thailand’s tourism officials might not want to admit it but, the sex tourism industry is a major part of the overall 10% GDP for Thailand and cutting it could prove to be a bad decision.
Kobkarn Wattanavrangkul, Thailand’s tourism minister sees it different and has pledged to bring an end to the country’s sex industry!
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Kobkarn said she wants Thailand to be about quality tourism. “We want the sex industry gone,” she said. “Tourists don’t come to Thailand for such a thing. They come here for our beautiful culture.”
Thailand’s millions of sex tourists would disagree.
The south-east Asian state is predominantly Buddhist and deeply conservative, but also home to a widespread sex industry – despite prostitution being illegal. Its been illegal for close to 70 years, the country is home to a large sex trade. While the majority of customers are Thai men, the industry also thrives on foreign visitors who come for companionship, thrills and even wives.
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Kobkarn, who has been in office since 2014, has had plans to tackle the industry since being appointed.
Pattaya, is one of the country’s sex tourism hotspots, was the target for a pilot program that would then be introduced country wide. The aim was to rebrand Pattaya from a place for tourists to come in pursuit of sex, into a hub for water sports. The area is home to more than 1,000 bars and massage parlors which operate as brothels.
While Thailand’s efforts to clean up its image appear positive, the effects could prove detrimental for the country’s sex workers.
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Experts believe it will be hard for Thailand to rid itself of the sex industry, something that is well entrenched in the country and provides pay-offs to officials and policemen.
And those who work in the industry say curbs on commercial sex services would hurt its flagging economy, which has struggled to recover since almost slipping into recession in 2014.
However, Thailand is expecting a record number of tourists to the country in 2016.
Article Source: http://www.eturbonews.com/
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They'll never stop people bonking, it's been tried elsewhere and it doesn't work.
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Follow up article:
LADYBOYS AND GO-GO GIRLS FACE AXE Inside the seedy world of Thailand’s infamous brothels and sex bars as it faces the axe in crackdown
Country’s first female tourism minister promises to crack the whip on vice industry
BY JON LOCKETT
1st August 2016, 11:12 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1537249/thai-government-vows-to-shut-down-the-countrys-world-famous-brothels-and-sex-bars/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1537249/thai-government-vows-to-shut-down-the-countrys-world-famous-brothels-and-sex-bars/)
In an attempt to diversify the industry, Thailand is starting a “month for women travellers” campaign in August, in which female-only pink immigration lanes and parking zones will be set up in international airports.
The campaign is timed to coincide with the birthday of Thailand’s Queen Sirikit in August.
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The oldest profession in the world. :biggrin:
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If this happens I am very concerned about all the sick buffalo's that will no longer receive medical care from kind hearted tourists.
All BS aside, I personally know of several families being supported by their Pattaya daughter, to include the child being raised by the grandmother. Could be some hardship ahead.
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Follow up article:
Well according to this Special Report Thailand Tourist Industry could be numbered :blink:
Special Report: Are Days Numbered For The Thai Tourist Industry? (http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/229173/special-report-days-numbered-thai-tourist-industry/)
Chiang Mai has started a campaign to try and lure back Chinese tourists, whose visits have dropped significantly lately. The drop in visitor numbers is thought to be related to the Thais’ constant criticism of the Chinese on social media, causing the them to boycott Thailand.
And this is something like the reason the Americans stopped coming here in numbers a few years ago. And the British, Australians & Europeans. The attitude of the Thai authorities and, in some cases the population, towards their guests is driving people away.
The fifteen-year prosperity, thanks to the wealth Westerners brought in by the billion that looked, only a few years ago, as if it would never end, may well be ending.
Take a look at tourism over the last forty-years and a pattern emerges.
In the 1970’s the early package tours took wealth and prosperity to Spain’s, previously undeveloped, Costa del Sol region. The Coast of the Sun was cheap, easy to reach, beautiful, unspoiled and safe. The Spanish welcomed new customers to their bars, taverns, hotels & beaches by the million.
And, of course, the crooks moved in too. The pickpockets, the muggers, the taxi driver scams, the water-ski scammers (you damaged my ski, that’s $50, gracias). Waiters watered down wine, shops short-changed. Every non Spaniard was an opportunity and the Spanish police were bought and paid for. In on it – up to the nail-bag.
So were the authorities. Ugly hotels went up, the beautiful shoreline was ruined, the seawater polluted, condos were bought and never built. Now-famous time share scams were established. Golf club memberships, to courses that were never played, were sold. Nightmares were had and tears flowed. Greed flourished and wealth changed hands.
Then the foreign crooks all moved in and gun-fights were common. Taxi drivers cheated, robbed and raped. And the tourists were all chased out of town. People just stopped going there.
First the Americans left. Then the British and other Europeans. The Japanese, so affluent during the 1970’s & 80’s, stopped going. The Russians had a brief look around, after their borders opened in the 1990’s, but it was too late for Spain by then.
There was no way to change the attitudes of the people by that time. A whole generation had grown up thinking tourists in numbers had always been there, and always would be. But the Russians also found somewhere else to go before long. Spain then spent the next twenty-years with its collective arms out saying, ‘where you go, please come back handsome man.’
But no-one goes back there now. Not in any numbers anyway. Spain is broke. The money is gone. Buildings lay derelict and a decent condo can now be picked up from a bank for the price of a medium sized car.
And it serves them right.
Spain was onto a good thing in the 1980’s. And they thought it would last forever. But people who are abused, everywhere they go in a country, just stop going there.
The tourist dollar went to Greece instead during the 1990’s and exactly the same thing happen there too. Now their elderly scavenge for food in street bins and you can buy a decent apartment in Athens for pocket change. But, who would?
The gravy train pulled into Turkey next, for a brief while, until the same thing happened there and tourists were chased away by robbing, thieving locals who thought they knew a good thing when it walked past them at night.
Who, in their right minds, would go on holiday to Turkey now?
Fifteen years ago (or something) the same gravy train left western stations and pulled into Thailand. Is any of this sounding familiar yet?
It doesn’t take long for the so called quality tourist to be driven out of town. Parts of Thailand today mirror the Costa Del Sol during the 1980’s. And I don’t just mean the once beautiful coastline through Naklua and Wongamat that is so badly scarred by high-rise chicken boxes. And nor do I just mean the polluted seawater, thanks to cheap drainage.
It is every baht bus driver who pulled away without giving change. It is every chicken vendor who charged the white man more than he saw the person before him pay. It is every gold stealing ladyboy in the dead of night and every traffic ticket that is issued unfairly.
It is every motorbike taxi driver who beat up a drunk tourist instead of helping him home and every bar worker who added tabs to a bin. It is every tour guide who refused to help a stranded tourist because ‘he didn’t pay for a tour guide, why should we help him? Next time he come he pay for tour guide. He learn his lesson and more money for us.’
I will tell you why, my lovely. Because he isn’t coming back. There is no next time. The next time his cruise ship (or anybody he knows) docks in Laem Chabang Port him and his wife will stay in the casino and not come to Pattaya or Bangkok. The next stop for them is Saigon.
Because you think he ‘learn his lesson’ sitting, sweating like a farmer, outside Mike’s Mall having missed his bus. And you won’t take him back to the ship on your half-empty, air-conditioned, tour bus because ‘he no pay for guide.’ That’s why. And multiply that by tens of thousands.
It is every single thing, big or small. Because every time anything like this happens someone goes home and tells all of their friends, on Facebook, ‘don’t go there, go somewhere else instead.’
Now, obviously I don’t mean everybody in Thailand is mistreating their guests. I don’t even imply it is anybody outside the tourist centres. It is not that many inside towns like Pattaya & Phuket either. But it is enough. The small minority that is causing people to go home with a bad experience. Just as it was in Spain, Greece and Turkey.
And imagine those bad experiences being shared many hundreds of thousands of times by modern social media users in all corners of the world over the last five years. As it is in China, right now.
The people seem unaware of any of this. Chiang Mai deputy governor Mongkol Suksai tried to calm feelings down in the province when he said yesterday ‘it is just a significant difference between cultures which, on many occasions, we Thais are not accustomed to. That is why it is vital that we make them understand how Thai people are. It is our job to show them what is acceptable, and more importantly, what is inappropriate in Thai culture.’
I am afraid not, Mr Governor. The Chinese tourists are where you are at now, in terms of visitor. They are the customer. They bring the money. This is what you are now left to work with.
Europe, America, Australia and Russia have all been chased out of town, to Vietnam perhaps. Hurried over the border. You are where you are now. It is you who must adapt your service to suit the Chinese, if you want them to keep coming.
Because if you don’t then your tour guides, who have all been learning Manderin over the last twelve months, had better start learning Arabic, Hindi and Urdu instead.
And it will serve them right too. Because that is what is coming next.
Just ask the Spanish, the Greeks or the Turks.
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Well written .
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Interesting article Sofa, however I think you will find the Spanish, Greeks and Turks were minor league players against the almost state sponsored scamming I have witnessed in Thailand over the past 25years. What's more concerning is those Mediterranean countries always knew what they were doing was wrong but the Thais all believe their bias is totally justified, I'm afraid you can not rehabilitated those without a conscience.
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Also not helped by the murders that took place on the islands and the recent assault on a family in Hua Hin. Proportionately these events may be few and far between however the press coverage would have you believe these are common events.
I like living here but I have never been in a country where I am so guarded against being ripped off. There is something inherently wrong with a society when it is often necessary for me to remain out of view whilst my wife secures a fair price. If that occurs in non tourist areas like Issan then there is little hope for the resort and tourist areas.
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One thing that stops Americans (both continents) from coming to Thailand is that it is not easy travel. For the vast majority of US Americans it takes at least 3 plane different planes and over 24 hours to get to Thailand. There is no longer any direct flights commercial flights between the USA and Thailand.
So it is basically 2 days to get to Thailand due to the 12 hour time difference and 1 day back. There are much easier places to get to than Thailand for Americans.
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Sex industry? But prostitution is illegal in Thailand. (Purachai tried to stop it some years back)
Back to the real world, there will always be prostitution. In some villages, it is a tradition that the girls go off to the sex centres to make some cash (or meet a rich husband). There they may be lucky; or they may be exploited, and end up miserably diseased and on drugs.
There is only one approach which has any hope of improving the lives of the girls in the trade, and that is, legalise it. There will still be lowlifes in the BIB and elsewhere who prey on these people, but this is Thailand; it happens.
This Government (and indeed, any Government) sometimes has to learn to ride with the waves. Even Canute knew that a thousand years back.
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There is only one country in the western hemisphere where prostitution is not legal. You got it the USA all other countries it is excepted. BTW state of Nevada its is legal in selected counties.
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There is only one country in the western hemisphere where prostitution is not legal. You got it the USA all other countries it is excepted. BTW state of Nevada its is legal in selected counties.
It is my understanding that it is legal to offer sex for money in the USA. It is illegal to pay for it. Therefore only the client can be arrested.
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There is only one country in the western hemisphere where prostitution is not legal. You got it the USA all other countries it is excepted. BTW state of Nevada its is legal in selected counties.
It is my understanding that it is legal to offer sex for money in the USA. It is illegal to pay for it. Therefore only the client can be arrested.
Not correct as there is only one state where prostitution is legal and thats Nevada and that is only in certain counties. Major cities such as Las Vegas and Reno its a no no. All other states have different penalties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States
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It is my understanding that it is legal to offer sex for money in the USA. It is illegal to pay for it. Therefore only the client can be arrested.
Actually I think that's how it works in Sweden and maybe Norway.
In the USA it's illegal to offer for pay or to pay for it, so they can arrest either if caught. Except, as noted above, for certain parts of Nevada where it is legal.
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It is my understanding that it is legal to offer sex for money in the USA. It is illegal to pay for it. Therefore only the client can be arrested.
Actually I think that's how it works in Sweden and maybe Norway.
In the USA it's illegal to offer for pay or to pay for it, so they can arrest either if caught. Except, as noted above, for certain parts of Nevada where it is legal.
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Sorry Khun G. Yes I read it incorrectly.
(Green) Prostitution legal and regulated
(Blue) Prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) legal, but brothels are illegal; prostitution is not regulated
(Orange) Illegal to pay for sex but not to offer the service (client commits crime, prostitute doesn't)
(Red)Prostitution fully illegal
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The state of Nevada is the only jurisdiction in the United States where prostitution is permitted. Strictly regulated brothels operate legally in isolated rural areas, away from the majority of Nevada's population. Prostitution is illegal in the following counties: Clark (which contains Las Vegas), Washoe (which contains Reno), Douglas, and Lincoln. Prostitution is also illegal in Nevada's capital, Carson City, an independent city. The rest of Nevada's counties are permitted by state law to license brothels, but only 8 counties have done so. As of August 2013, there are 19 brothels in Nevada.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada
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Sorry Khun G. Yes I read it incorrectly.
(Green) Prostitution legal and regulated
(Blue) Prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) legal, but brothels are illegal; prostitution is not regulated
(Orange) Illegal to pay for sex but not to offer the service (client commits crime, prostitute doesn't)
(Red)Prostitution fully illegal
No wonder there are so many bloody Russians and Chinese in Pattaya!
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Sorry Khun G. Yes I read it incorrectly.
(Green) Prostitution legal and regulated
(Blue) Prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) legal, but brothels are illegal; prostitution is not regulated
(Orange) Illegal to pay for sex but not to offer the service (client commits crime, prostitute doesn't)
(Red)Prostitution fully illegal
No wonder there are so many bloody Russians and Chinese in Pattaya!
Not sure what you mean,CoCo. On the map,Thailand is red. party3
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party3Sorry Khun G. Yes I read it incorrectly.
(Green) Prostitution legal and regulated
(Blue) Prostitution (the exchange of sex for money) legal, but brothels are illegal; prostitution is not regulated
(Orange) Illegal to pay for sex but not to offer the service (client commits crime, prostitute doesn't)
(Red)Prostitution fully illegal
No wonder there are so many bloody Russians and Chinese in Pattaya!
Not sure what you mean,CoCo. On the map,Thailand is red. party3
Perhaps the Chinese and Russians haven't seen that map Steve.....
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I was a 21 year old and just left a drinking party late one night, with my friend who was driving.
He wanted to cruise by the P4P area in this city (U.S. not Nevada). I pleaded with him not to, and to take me to my car instead. But he insisted on doing a drive by to look at the hookers.
He pulled up next to a car that had a lady in the drivers seat. She rolled the window down and asked him if he was interested in a party. He said "yes" and she asked him what kind of party, and how much money he wanted to spend.
He told her something like "$50 dollars for full service." Seeing me then, she shouted out to me "what did he say?" I leaned across and said "he said $50 dollars for full service."
Instantaneously, flashing police lights and squad cars converged on us! It was a police "sting", and we were both arrested and taken to the police station. My friend was charged with "soliciting a sex act for hire." And I was charged with "aiding and abetting and offer of sex for hire."
They released us from the holding cell around daybreak, and we eventually got the charges dismissed.
(aiding and abetting FFS!)